From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 1: 0:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A3237B421; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 01:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g018u5j93569; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 00:56:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 00:56:05 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201010856.g018u5j93569@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tspivey8@home.com, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/33021: link "soundblaster awe64 configuration under freebsd 3.1" doesn't work on projects page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: link "soundblaster awe64 configuration under freebsd 3.1" doesn't work on projects page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Jan 1 00:55:32 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: The new link that Sheldon suggested has been added, and the broken link has been removed. Thanks for your submission! It may take up to 24 hours for the website to update. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33021 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 1:40:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81C237B421; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 01:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g019cbA00348; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 01:38:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 01:38:37 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201010938.g019cbA00348@freefall.freebsd.org> To: evms@cs.bu.edu, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32910: [NEW DOC] The Jail Subsystem Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [NEW DOC] The Jail Subsystem State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Jan 1 01:35:32 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: This document has been committed as a new chapter to the Developer's Handbook. The change should be available online within the next 24 hours. I had to make the following changes to your submitted document : * Converted from an article to a chapter. * Removed references section (doesn't make sense in a chapter). * Fixed whitespace to make it mostly consistent with the rules described in the FreeBSD Documentation Project Primer. * Added missing closing tabs * Converted all of the man entities to our own syntax, so that a link will automatically be created for each man page to the online HTML -> MAN gateway. Thanks for the submission! Any future contributions would be greatly appreciated! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32910 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 2: 0:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF1637B425; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 02:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g019sXb02328; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 01:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 01:54:33 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201010954.g019sXb02328@freefall.freebsd.org> To: setantae@submonkey.net, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/33252: Typo in chrooting named section of the handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Typo in chrooting named section of the handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Jan 1 01:54:11 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Your change has been committed in r1.114 of chapter.sgml. Thanks for the submission! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33252 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 2: 0:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A0537B421 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 02:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 43C1E4B65D; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 02:00:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 02:00:50 -0800 From: murray@stokely.org To: Julio Merino Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: afterboot manpage Message-ID: <20020101020050.B16583@windriver.com> References: <20011223183852.A3688@klamath.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011223183852.A3688@klamath.local>; from juli@merino.net on Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 06:38:52PM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Dec 23, 2001 at 06:38:52PM +0100, Julio Merino wrote: > I've been reading the afterboot manpage of OpenBSD and find it quite > interesting. Why not add this page (or an own one) into FreeBSD? Sounds like a good idea to me. Can you get the newest version from OpenBSD, modify it for FreeBSD as appropriate, and then submit it with send-pr clearly indicating that it is from the OpenBSD project? (We don't want to use something without giving proper credit). That would be a huge help in making this actually happen. ;) Thanks, - Murray --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8MYjRtNcQog5FH30RAvFNAKCTwsR9EX0sQw2QqdP/2SJ96LvatwCfSjJZ RnwM1nvOqVWVWfkfN/JXCms= =f0uS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 2:20:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E526E37B41B; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 02:20:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from murray@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g01AHGO07567; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 02:17:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 02:17:16 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201011017.g01AHGO07567@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwm@mired.org, murray@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/33184: The handbook is missing a critical step in the upgrade process Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: The handbook is missing a critical step in the upgrade process State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: murray State-Changed-When: Tue Jan 1 02:16:42 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Your change has been added in r1.102 of chapter.sgml. Thanks for the submission! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=33184 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 2:53:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 455BE37B41A for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 02:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3603 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Jan 2002 10:51:52 -0000 Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 12:51:51 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -> Message-ID: <20020101125151.A1609@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20011231100926.A3512@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011231100926.A3512@straylight.oblivion.bg>; from roam@ringlet.net on Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:09:26AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:09:26AM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a reason to use instead of when referring > to a port? If not, how about the attached patch? > > There are still a couple of 's with port directories left > in the doc tree, but they are there for legitimate reasons - e.g. > the Porter's Handbook talks about directories, not ports, in several > places, so should be more appropriate. OK, here's a second version of the patch - there were a couple that I missed at the first run. G'luck, Peter -- This sentence is false. Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.339 diff -u -r1.339 book.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 24 Dec 2001 10:47:09 -0000 1.339 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml 1 Jan 2002 10:35:28 -0000 @@ -847,7 +847,7 @@ The Zip format. If you want to uncompress this on FreeBSD you will need to install the - archivers/unzip port + archivers/unzip port first. @@ -864,7 +864,7 @@ The BZip2 format. Less widespread than the others, but generally gives smaller files. - Install the archivers/bzip2 + Install the archivers/bzip2 port to uncompress these files. @@ -3288,9 +3288,9 @@ FreeBSD supports many software modems via add-on - software. The comms/ltmdm port adds + software. The comms/ltmdm port adds support for modems based on the very popular Lucent LT - chipset. The comms/mwavem port + chipset. The comms/mwavem port supports the modem in IBM Thinkpad 600 and 700 laptops. @@ -3715,7 +3715,7 @@ special hook has been added into the CD9660 driver to allow the user to load an appropriate conversion table on the fly. Modules for some of the common encodings are available via the - sysutils/cd9660_unicode port. + sysutils/cd9660_unicode port. @@ -3782,7 +3782,7 @@ mount only works on filesystems. Audio CDs do not have filesystems; they just have data. You need a program that reads audio CDs, such as the - audio/xmcd port. + audio/xmcd port. Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/examples/appendix.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/examples/appendix.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 appendix.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/examples/appendix.sgml 2 Oct 2001 05:28:55 -0000 1.6 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/examples/appendix.sgml 30 Dec 2001 11:23:55 -0000 @@ -153,7 +153,7 @@ Producing formatted output This section assumes that you have installed the software listed in - the textproc/docproj port, either by hand, or by + the textproc/docproj port, either by hand, or by using the port. Further, it is assumed that your software is installed in subdirectories under /usr/local/, and the directory where binaries have been installed is in your Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 chapter.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml 23 Oct 2001 21:54:17 -0000 1.11 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml 30 Dec 2001 11:24:38 -0000 @@ -176,7 +176,7 @@ - Install the textproc/docproj + Install the textproc/docproj meta-port. &prompt.root; cd /usr/ports/textproc/docproj Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-markup/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-markup/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.37 diff -u -r1.37 chapter.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-markup/chapter.sgml 8 Dec 2001 12:12:46 -0000 1.37 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-markup/chapter.sgml 30 Dec 2001 11:25:54 -0000 @@ -80,8 +80,8 @@ loose variants). The HTML DTDs are available from the ports collection in the - textproc/html port. They are automatically - installed as part of the textproc/docproj + textproc/html port. They are automatically + installed as part of the textproc/docproj port. @@ -677,8 +677,8 @@ The DocBook DTD is available from the ports collection in the - textproc/docbook port. It is automatically - installed as part of the textproc/docproj + textproc/docbook port. It is automatically + installed as part of the textproc/docproj port. @@ -2231,12 +2231,12 @@ change, but that is not guaranteed. You will also need to install the - graphics/ImageMagick port, which is used to + graphics/ImageMagick port, which is used to convert between the different image formats. This is a big port, and most of it is not required. However, while we are working on the Makefiles and other infrastructure it makes things easier. This port is not in the - textproc/docproj meta port, you must install it + textproc/docproj meta port, you must install it by hand. The best example of what follows in practice is the Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-primer/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-primer/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.24 diff -u -r1.24 chapter.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-primer/chapter.sgml 8 Dec 2001 12:12:46 -0000 1.24 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-primer/chapter.sgml 30 Dec 2001 11:27:45 -0000 @@ -332,7 +332,7 @@ - Download and install textproc/docproj + Download and install textproc/docproj from the FreeBSD ports system. This is a meta-port that should download and install all of the programs and supporting files that are used by the @@ -396,7 +396,7 @@ Try and validate this file using an SGML parser. - Part of textproc/docproj is the + Part of textproc/docproj is the &man.nsgmls.1; validating parser. Normally, &man.nsgmls.1; reads in a document marked up according to an SGML DTD and returns a copy of the @@ -699,7 +699,7 @@ Look at the contents of /usr/local/share/sgml/html/catalog. This is the catalog file for the HTML DTDs that will have been installed as - part of the textproc/docproj port. + part of the textproc/docproj port. Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/stylesheets/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/stylesheets/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 chapter.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/stylesheets/chapter.sgml 11 Nov 2001 21:30:04 -0000 1.6 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/stylesheets/chapter.sgml 1 Jan 2002 10:36:28 -0000 @@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ Norm Walsh's modular DocBook stylesheets. These can be found in - textproc/dsssl-docbook-modular. + textproc/dsssl-docbook-modular. The modified stylesheets are not in the ports system. Instead they are part of the Documentation Project source repository, and can be Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.15 diff -u -r1.15 chapter.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml 31 Oct 2001 23:47:32 -0000 1.15 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml 30 Dec 2001 11:31:17 -0000 @@ -47,10 +47,10 @@ tools is covered in later chapters. - Use <filename>textproc/docproj</filename> if possible + Use <port>textproc/docproj</port> if possible You can save yourself a lot of time if you install the - textproc/docproj port. This is a + textproc/docproj port. This is a meta-port which does not contain any software itself. Instead, it depends on various other ports being installed correctly. Installing this port should @@ -84,12 +84,12 @@ These programs are required before you can usefully work with the FreeBSD documentation, and they will allow you to convert the documentation to HTML, plain text, and RTF formats. They are all - included in textproc/docproj. + included in textproc/docproj. SP - (textproc/sp) + (textproc/sp) A suite of applications, including a validating SGML parser, @@ -99,7 +99,7 @@ Jade - (textproc/jade) + (textproc/jade) A DSSSL implementation. Used for converting marked up @@ -109,7 +109,7 @@ Tidy - (www/tidy) + (www/tidy) An HTML 'pretty printer', used to reformat some of the @@ -120,7 +120,7 @@ Links - (www/links) + (www/links) A text-mode WWW browser, &man.links.1; can also convert @@ -130,7 +130,7 @@ peps - (graphics/peps) + (graphics/peps) Some of the documentation includes images, some of which are @@ -149,7 +149,7 @@ - HTML DTD (textproc/html) + HTML DTD (textproc/html) HTML is the markup language of choice for the World Wide @@ -158,7 +158,7 @@ - DocBook DTD (textproc/docbook) + DocBook DTD (textproc/docbook) DocBook is designed for marking up technical documentation. @@ -168,7 +168,7 @@ ISO 8879 entities - (textproc/iso8879) + (textproc/iso8879) 19 of the ISO 8879:1986 character entity sets used by many @@ -189,7 +189,7 @@ Modular DocBook Stylesheets - (textproc/dsssl-docbook-modular) + (textproc/dsssl-docbook-modular) The Modular DocBook Stylesheets are used when converting @@ -216,8 +216,8 @@ JadeTeX and teTeX - (print/jadetex and - print/teTeX) + (print/jadetex and + print/teTeX) Jade and @@ -249,8 +249,8 @@ Emacs or xemacs - (editors/emacs or - editors/xemacs) + (editors/emacs or + editors/xemacs) Both these editors include a special mode for editing Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/translations/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/translations/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -r1.13 chapter.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/translations/chapter.sgml 8 Dec 2001 12:12:47 -0000 1.13 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/fdp-primer/translations/chapter.sgml 30 Dec 2001 11:32:02 -0000 @@ -371,7 +371,7 @@ entity, and a semi-colon (;). The entity names are defined in ISO8879, which is in the ports - tree as textproc/iso8879. + tree as textproc/iso8879. A few examples include Index: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.188 diff -u -r1.188 book.sgml --- doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml 18 Dec 2001 13:18:37 -0000 1.188 +++ doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml 1 Jan 2002 10:37:45 -0000 @@ -1593,7 +1593,7 @@ @${FALSE} .endif - japanese/xdvi300 also has all the regular + japanese/xdvi300 also has all the regular patches, package files, etc. If you type make there, it will take the default value for the resolution (300) and build the port normally. @@ -1736,7 +1736,7 @@ There are many programs that require a Motif library (available from several commercial vendors, while there is a free clone reported to be able to run many applications in - x11-toolkits/lesstif) to compile. Since it is a + x11-toolkits/lesstif) to compile. Since it is a popular toolkit and their licenses usually permit redistribution of statically linked binaries, we have made special provisions for handling ports that require Motif in a way that we can easily compile @@ -1832,7 +1832,7 @@ Here's a seven-step procedure to convert ports to use install-info. - editors/emacs will be used as an + editors/emacs will be used as an example. @@ -1884,7 +1884,7 @@ to use the extra arguments to install-info because makeinfo cannot handle those texinfo sources. (See Makefile and - pkg-plist of japanese/skk + pkg-plist of japanese/skk for examples on how to do this). @@ -3532,12 +3532,12 @@ If your port requires a certain user to be on the installed system, let the pkg-install script call pw to create it automatically. Look at - net/cvsup-mirror for an example. + net/cvsup-mirror for an example. If your port must use the same user/group ID number when it is installed as a binary package as when it was compiled, then you must choose a free UID from 50 to 999 and register it below. Look at - japanese/Wnn for an example. + japanese/Wnn for an example. Make sure you do not use a UID already used by the system or other ports. This is the current list of UIDs between 50 and To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 7:33:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CB9B37B41E for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 07:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO warhawk) (202.1.200.196) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jan 2002 15:33:19 -0000 From: "Haikal Saadh" To: , Subject: New Slides! 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 10:23:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721C237B41E for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:23:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id g01INYD14953 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:23:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:23:34 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Kernel Memory Limit (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If someone has a chance to look into this before 4.5-RELEASE goes out the door, that would be great. I've also updated the tuning(7) man page so there may need to be other propagation of documents. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:51:41 -0800 From: Terry Lambert To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Anjali Kulkarni , osa@freebsd.org.ru, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel Memory Limit Matthew Dillon wrote: > KVM is only 1G, and a lot of is used-up. You cannot allocate > (directly map) hundreds of megabytes of kernel memory. You can crank up the KVA space, though the handbook is wrong for -release, and woefully out of date for -current. You can also do big allocations, if you do them at startup, but they require heroic measures and have their own limitations. See my other (longer) posting for a clearer explanation. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 10:30: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B262637B41F for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g01IU2s09449; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 10:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201011830.g01IU2s09449@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Marc Silver Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Reply-To: Marc Silver Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31265; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Marc Silver To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, swear@blarg.net Cc: Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 18:25:36 +0000 --Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi there, After looking at PR docs/31265 I would like to submit this patch for possible review. The patch originally provided in this PR is (I believe) incorrect in stating that usernames must be followed by a newline character. Possibly this was corrected in FreeBSD sometime after the PR was submitted. I cannot duplicate this behaviour in FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE. I have written the following patch for the man page, and hopefully someone can look over it and maybe commit it for me if they feel it's ok? Thanks, Marc -- I've learned that being kind is more important than being right. -- Andy Rooney --Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="crontab.1.patch" --- crontab.1.orig Tue Jan 1 17:56:02 2002 +++ crontab.1 Tue Jan 1 18:18:08 2002 @@ -55,10 +55,20 @@ .Em not be listed in the .Pa deny -file in order to use this command. If neither of these files exists, then -depending on site-dependent configuration parameters, only the super user -will be allowed to use this command, or all users will be able to use this -command. +file in order to use this command. +.Pp +In order to use the +.Pa allow +and +.Pa deny +files you must use the correct format. Only one username must be added +per line. Usernames must not have any characters (such as whitespace) +preceding them, or they will be ignored. Comments may also be inserted +into this file. +.Pp +If neither of these files exists, then depending on site-dependent +configuration parameters, only the super user will be allowed to use +this command, or all users will be able to use this command. .Pp The first form of this command is used to install a new crontab from some named file or standard input if the pseudo-filename ``-'' is given. --Bn2rw/3z4jIqBvZU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 12:33:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E5837B41F for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 12:33:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card4-0-cust122.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.122] helo=rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net ident=exim) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16LVbG-0004Jz-00; Tue, 01 Jan 2002 20:33:30 +0000 Received: from setantae by rhadamanth.private.submonkey.net with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16LVaI-000C6W-00; Tue, 01 Jan 2002 20:32:30 +0000 Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:32:30 +0000 From: Ceri To: Marc Silver Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Message-ID: <20020101203230.GA46419@rhadamanth> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri , Marc Silver , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200201011830.g01IU2s09449@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200201011830.g01IU2s09449@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:30:02AM -0800, Marc Silver wrote: Hi Marc, The patch is good so far as I'm concerned, with one proviso : > +preceding them, or they will be ignored. Comments may also be inserted > +into this file. Could you describe what is considered a comment (e.g. are they ^#, ^;, ^REM ;) ? Thanks, Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 13:52:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from riffraff.plig.net (riffraff.plig.net [195.40.6.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EE837B41C for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by riffraff.plig.net (Postfix, from userid 3010) id E6FE347B69; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:52:17 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:52:17 +0000 From: Marc Silver To: Ceri , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Message-ID: <20020101215217.R13308@draenor.org> References: <200201011830.g01IU2s09449@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020101203230.GA46419@rhadamanth> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020101203230.GA46419@rhadamanth>; from setantae@submonkey.net on Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 08:32:30PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Ceri, After looking at the source code for cron I'm fairly certain that any non standard characters that are _not_ allowed in usernames [-_a-zA-Z0-9\.] (I think that's all?) will essentially be allowed to be used for a comment. Looks to me like it's merely searching for the username that executes crontab in the allow or deny file... it's not specifically marking anything as a comment. :) I'd recommend using ^# as a standard in this case since it's just a text file. Do you want me to amend the patch and re-send or can you add this if/when you commit this? - Marc On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 08:32:30PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:30:02AM -0800, Marc Silver wrote: > > Hi Marc, > > The patch is good so far as I'm concerned, with one proviso : > > > +preceding them, or they will be ignored. Comments may also be inserted > > +into this file. > > Could you describe what is considered a comment (e.g. are they ^#, ^;, ^REM ;) > ? > > Thanks, > > Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 14:40: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B2937B422 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g01Me1x57220; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB7037B429 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g01MY9K56571; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:34:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201012234.g01MY9K56571@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:34:09 -0800 (PST) From: wolfram schneider To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/33449: we may add kerneltrap.org to the new section Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33449 >Category: docs >Synopsis: we may add kerneltrap.org to the new section >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jan 01 14:40:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: wolfram schneider >Release: >Organization: >Environment: >Description: www.kerneltrap.org is a web site For Current Kernel News. Many articles are about linux and some about BSD. Maybe we should add a link to kerneltrap.org on our new section http://www.freebsd.org/news/ >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 14:44:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from relay3-gui.server.ntli.net (relay3-gui.server.ntli.net [194.168.4.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076E537B420 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc3-card4-0-cust33.cdf.cable.ntl.com ([62.254.251.33] helo=rhadamanth) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 16LXe7-0006KM-00; Tue, 01 Jan 2002 22:44:35 +0000 From: "setantae" To: Marc Silver Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 22:44:34 -0000 Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <3C323BD2.22144.76F752@localhost> In-reply-to: <20020101215217.R13308@draenor.org> References: <20020101203230.GA46419@rhadamanth>; from setantae@submonkey.net on Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 08:32:30PM +0000 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1 Jan 2002, at 21:52, Marc Silver wrote: > On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 08:32:30PM +0000, Ceri wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:30:02AM -0800, Marc Silver wrote: > > > +preceding them, or they will be ignored. Comments may also be > > > +inserted into this file. > > > > Could you describe what is considered a comment (e.g. are they ^#, > > ^;, ^REM ;) ? > > > After looking at the source code for cron I'm fairly certain that any > non standard characters that are _not_ allowed in usernames > [-_a-zA-Z0-9\.] (I think that's all?) will essentially be allowed to > be used for a comment. Looks to me like it's merely searching for the > username that executes crontab in the allow or deny file... it's not > specifically marking anything as a comment. :) I'd recommend using > ^# as a standard in this case since it's just a text file. > > Do you want me to amend the patch and re-send or can you add this > if/when you commit this? Marc, I don't have commit privs, I just thought it would be nice ;) Ceri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 17:29:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DA037B423 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 17:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g021TgG85381 for freebsd-doc; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 17:29:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from www) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 17:29:42 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201020129.g021TgG85381@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ===> conspectus/advocacy/2000 ===> conspectus/advocacy/2000/11 ===> ports cd /c/www/build/www/en/ports; make -f /c/www/build/www/en/ports/Makefile.inc0 all ===> doc ===> doc/articles ===> doc/articles/committers-guide ===> doc/articles/console-server "html-split" is not a valid output format for this document. ===> doc/articles/contributing ===> doc/articles/contributors ===> doc/articles/cvsup-advanced ===> doc/articles/dialup-firewall ===> doc/articles/diskless-x ===> doc/articles/explaining-bsd ===> doc/articles/filtering-bridges ===> doc/articles/fonts ===> doc/articles/formatting-media ===> doc/articles/freebsd-questions ===> doc/articles/ipsec-must ===> doc/articles/laptop ===> doc/articles/mh ===> doc/articles/multi-os ===> doc/articles/new-users ===> doc/articles/problem-reports ===> doc/articles/programming-tools ===> doc/articles/pxe ===> doc/articles/releng groff -p -S -Wall -mtty-char -man branches.pic > branches.ps /usr/local/bin/ps2epsi branches.ps branches.eps gs: not found sed: 1: "/^%%BeginPreview:/,/^%% ...": unbalanced brackets ([]) /usr/local/bin/peps -p -r 100 -o branches.png branches.eps peps: branches.eps is not a valid EPS file. *** Error code 4 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. 398.65 real 204.42 user 7.54 sys To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 18:22:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21104.mail.yahoo.com (web21104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8A1137B42C for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 18:22:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020102022219.2631.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Jan 2002 18:22:19 PST Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 18:22:19 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org To: murray@FreeBSD.org Cc: murray@stokely.org, doc@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <200201020129.g021TgG85381@freefall.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi.. hmm... I think its the error after you committed a change to the doc.images.mk file version 1.14. I think it needs backing out.. :-( I have tried to locate the problem, and I think its because the 'ps2epsi' doesn't produce a valid EPS file. =========== ORIGINAL Message ========================= -- www@FreeBSD.org wrote: [output snipped] > ===> doc/articles/releng > groff -p -S -Wall -mtty-char -man branches.pic > > branches.ps > /usr/local/bin/ps2epsi branches.ps branches.eps > gs: not found > sed: 1: "/^%%BeginPreview:/,/^%% ...": unbalanced > brackets ([]) > /usr/local/bin/peps -p -r 100 -o branches.png > branches.eps > peps: branches.eps is not a valid EPS file. > *** Error code 4 > > Stop in > /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/www/en/doc. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /c/www/build/www/en. > 398.65 real 204.42 user 7.54 sys ======================END============================= regards, =Hiten = ===== SSH Fingerprint: 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 19: 9:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.atjeu.com (ns1.atjeu.com [12.105.168.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4468A37B427 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:09:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from alex (pool-141-154-234-76.bos.east.verizon.net [141.154.234.76]) by [12.105.168.7] (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g0238Jq32592 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:08:19 -0700 From: "Alex Sommerfeld" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 22:08:23 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm reading you documentation on installing freebsd. I'm at the Resolving Driver Conflicts Stage in the kernel config. My question is how do I resolve these conflicts? I do know how to change the port address's that are conflicting with each other. The documentation says if I don't know what they should be to place a -1. However it will not allow me to place a '-1' in the port address field. Should I disable the conflicting hardware? What should I do, the documentation is slightly dim at what I should do. Thanks in advanced, Alex B Sommerfeld - Owner Gateway Productions - Professional Disc Jockey 41 Otis St. Danvers Ma. 01923 Home Phone: (978) 777-1285 Work Phone: (978) 762-4661 Cell Phone: (978) 502-5733 E-mail: alex@djgateway.com Website: http://djgateway.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 20: 3: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F5337B41F; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:02:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id BAA764B65D; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:02:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 20:02:57 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Hiten Pandya Cc: murray@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD web build failed on freefall.freebsd.org Message-ID: <20020101200257.J16583@windriver.com> References: <200201020129.g021TgG85381@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020102022219.2631.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020102022219.2631.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com>; from hitmaster2k@yahoo.com on Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 06:22:19PM -0800 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 06:22:19PM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: > I have tried to locate the problem, and I think its > because the 'ps2epsi' doesn't produce a valid EPS > file. ps2epsi just calls 'gs' without the path, and /usr/local/bin isn't in the path when the web update script is run. There are probably other problems as well. I've disabled this article from the build for now and will fix this properly soon enough. It would probably be best to patch the ghostscript port and then make the admins install it on freefall. Thanks for the quick notice! - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 21: 4:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B163037B41A for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g0254Uw31395; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:04:30 -0800 Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:04:30 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Alex Sommerfeld Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: resolving driver conflicts (was: ) Message-ID: <20020101210430.A31335@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0F1p//8PRICkK4MW" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from alex@djgateway.com on Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:08:23PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:08:23PM -0500, Alex Sommerfeld wrote: > I'm reading you documentation on installing freebsd. I'm at the Resolving > Driver Conflicts Stage in the kernel config. My question is how do I reso= lve > these conflicts? I do know how to change the port address's that are > conflicting with each other. 99% of the time you can ignore this step. It mostly only matters on old systems with lots of isa devices. Most of the time, if there are conflicts you can simply disable one of the conflicting devices since you don't have one of those. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8MpTeXY6L6fI4GtQRAgqyAJ9BN540vkK/ZPwCkzWkIoeFQDTUiwCfUaJc gjDL8G2j5lhrWOZhUm+tOqI= =r08g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0F1p//8PRICkK4MW-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jan 1 21:20: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F69E37B405 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g025K2x37191; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 21:20:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201020520.g025K2x37191@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31265; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Marc Silver Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Date: 01 Jan 2002 21:11:40 -0800 Marc Silver writes: > I have written the following patch for the man page, and hopefully > someone can look over it and maybe commit it for me if they feel it's > ok? The re-write needs work. I haven't taken the time to re-do the tests upon which my patch was based, but looking at this code from 4.5-Pre leads me to believe nothing's changed relative to the newline issue. /usr/src/usr.sbin/cron/lib/misc.c while (fgets(line, MAX_TEMPSTR, file)) { if (line[0] != '\0') line[strlen(line)-1] = '\0'; if (0 == strcmp(line, string)) return TRUE; Note that it wipes out the last character before the null, which is the newline character except for a line which does not end with a newline, so that a user name at the end of the file with no trailing newline will be ignored. It still looks to me like a user name which ends the file will be ignored. I suspect a testing error. As for the rest, if you don't like my terse precision, then please add some more verbiage to yours to indicate that the user names must also not have any characters (such as whitespace) following them on the line. I think it's rather silly to say "you must use the correct format". I think "username" is not and should not be one word, despite the fact that it often is. Saying "Only one username must be added per line." doesn't read well. The sentence which follows that doesn't need a comma; the "or" clause is too short to require it. Saying "Comments may also be inserted into this file." leaves one asking what a legal comment is. My patch provided that information. A comment is a line which contains something other than a user name followed by a newline. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 2 0:10: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BB137B421 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g028A2a67875; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201020810.g028A2a67875@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Marc Silver Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Reply-To: Marc Silver Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31265; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Marc Silver To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 08:04:40 +0000 On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 09:11:40PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > The re-write needs work. I haven't taken the time to re-do the tests > upon which my patch was based, but looking at this code from 4.5-Pre > leads me to believe nothing's changed relative to the newline issue. > > /usr/src/usr.sbin/cron/lib/misc.c > > while (fgets(line, MAX_TEMPSTR, file)) { > if (line[0] != '\0') > line[strlen(line)-1] = '\0'; > if (0 == strcmp(line, string)) > return TRUE; > > Note that it wipes out the last character before the null, which is > the newline character except for a line which does not end with a > newline, so that a user name at the end of the file with no trailing > newline will be ignored. It still looks to me like a user name which > ends the file will be ignored. I suspect a testing error. Firstly, let me say that my c knowledge is not overly impressive, and while I understand more or less what's going on there, I'm not about to get into a discussion re: it. I have however re-tested this, and on my machine (4.4-STABLE compiled on 18 Dec 2001) a username at the end of a file _without_ a newline character is still allowed/denied correctly as it's supposed to be. There's no testing error here... it works just fine for me. > As for the rest, if you don't like my terse precision, then please add > some more verbiage to yours to indicate that the user names must also > not have any characters (such as whitespace) following them on the > line. It's not about liking or disliking your 'terse precision'. The reason I resubmitted this was because my unpatched crontab.1 file seemed different to yours, and there had been no action on this PR. I'm merely trying to revive it and hopefully get something done about the problem you found. > I think it's rather silly to say "you must use the correct format". You're entitled to your opinion. Do you have a better suggestion? > I think "username" is not and should not be one word, despite the fact > that it often is. Surely this is a 'religious' debate? It has nothing to do with whether or not the patch is relevant. I personally do believe that 'username' is correct. A quick search of the man pages in the source tree found the word 'username' 139 times... so I'm fairly sure that it's widely accepted. > Saying "Only one username must be added per line." doesn't read well. > The sentence which follows that doesn't need a comma; the "or" clause > is too short to require it. Thanks for the grammatical heads-up. I'll fix that too... > Saying "Comments may also be inserted into this file." leaves one > asking what a legal comment is. My patch provided that information. > A comment is a line which contains something other than a user name > followed by a newline. This has already been brought up, and I'll submit a change later today to explain what a comment is. Quite frankly, I couldn't care if your patch or mine is used at the end of the day. As long as the man page gets corrected. - Marc Btw. Your reply seems somewhat agressive... if I've offended you by submitting this, then I apologise. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 2 4:57:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-140-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3373237B41D; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 04:57:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g02CD6D94658; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:13:06 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:13:06 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Greg Lehey Cc: Brooks Davis , FreeBSD Documenters Subject: Re: Do we have a central document describing the devices available on FreeBSD? Message-ID: <20020102121306.C70243@clan.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20011228101414.D1091@monorchid.lemis.com> <20011227161159.A16906@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20011228105549.C95692@monorchid.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2JFBq9zoW8cOFH7v" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011228105549.C95692@monorchid.lemis.com>; from grog@FreeBSD.org on Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 10:55:49AM +1030 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --2JFBq9zoW8cOFH7v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 10:55:49AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Thursday, 27 December 2001 at 16:11:59 -0800, Brooks Davis wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 10:14:14AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > >> I'm updating "The Complete FreeBSD" to the 4th edition, and wanted to > >> stop listing FreeBSD devices there, since they change so often. > >> Instead, I wanted to point to a central, up-to-date document on the > >> devices. I couldn't find anything I liked. Have I missed something? > >> Ideally, I think this should be in intro(4), and people updating > >> section 4 pages should also update intro(4) where appropriate. Any > >> thoughts? > > > > bmah is maintining the supported hardware list in conjunction with the > > release notes as the primary source. If it's installed, it's at > > /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware/i386 for PCs or linked from > > frontpage on the website. >=20 > Yes, I know about this, but it's not in an appropriate form for > reference. =20 What would be an appropriate form? 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If not, how about the attached patch? I'm still uneasy about . Apart from the ambiguous name: The webserver listens on port 80. The printer is connected to lpt0. the rest of the world prefers the 'package' nomenclature. I'd be more comfortable with a=20 or mechanism. 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Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: ipfw(8) doesn't explain list versus show. State-Changed-From-To: open->analyzed State-Changed-By: yar State-Changed-When: Wed Jan 2 12:16:46 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: A somewhat different change committed to -current, thanks! 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Rostock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: CD vendor entry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520044748133-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I'm a Debian and KDE CD vendor and I'd like to sell BSD CDs also (four 4.4 CDs for 18 Euro). Could you please add an entry at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html#AEN23579 which says: Service: Hinner EDV, Germany URL: http://www.hinner.de/linux Typical Price: 18 Euro Shipping International: Yes While mostly a Debian site, you can buy FreeBSD CD-ROMs too. Hinner EDV will donate 1 Euro for every FreeBSD set sold back to the FreeBSD Project. Thank you! K.Hinner, Hinner EDV To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 2 15:20:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5251037B421 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g02NK2H82357; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:20:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:20:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201022320.g02NK2H82357@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31265; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Marc Silver Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Date: 02 Jan 2002 15:17:27 -0800 Marc Silver writes: > On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 09:11:40PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > [stuff at this level] > There's no testing error here... it works just fine for me. OK, so I re-tested too and find I still have the error. Shall we try to determine whether I've got old code or you've got a testing error or...? I find the newest file under /usr/src/usr.sbin/cron to be /usr/src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.c dated Jun 15 2001; size 13933; md5 3d7a88f82812c75c7a1ab0d3d806dc86 My /usr/bin/crontab is size 24872, but I'm not sure if that SHOULD match yours. I cvsup'd "RELENG_4/src-all" 26'dec'01 and did "make world" stuff then. Running as "jojo", I get this with "jojo" at the end of "/var/cron/allow". $ crontab -l crontab: you (jojo) are not allowed to use this program $ hd /var/cron/allow | tail -2 00000370 20 72 6f 6f 74 2e 0a 72 6f 6f 74 0a 6a 6f 6a 6f | root..root.jojo| 00000380 > .. my unpatched crontab.1 file seemed different to yours, ... My /usr/src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.1 and my 4.3R one both have 3282 Dec 8 2000 /usr/src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.1 > > I think it's rather silly to say "you must use the correct format". > > You're entitled to your opinion. Do you have a better suggestion? Omit the sentence which contains it. It should go without saying. > Btw. Your reply seems somewhat agressive... if I've offended you by > submitting this, then I apologise. I despise aggressiveness and usually restrain myself, but I occasionally repay inferred offense with implied offense. This time I tried to merely state what I thought of your changes and not what I thought of your seeming carelessness in making them. I spent a long time carefully wording my patch. I would have reacted better to criticism and suggestions for improvement than to a flat-out replacement, especially when I find it to be both poorly expressed and inaccurate. Maybe this is a lesson to push one's PR on people after it gets ignored. You were kind enough to ask for my thoughts on a rewrite. Here they are. Please don't take offense. +In order to use the +.Pa allow +and +.Pa deny +files the following format must be adhered to: +.Pp +.Bl -tag -width indent +.It Fl +Only one username may be added per line. Verbose. And the last line sounds strange. Sorry I can't explain it well; something strange about adding to a line which doesn't exist. How about replacing all with: "In these files, each user name must be on a separate line with no other characters on the line. Other lines are ignored and may be used for comments. A bug in the program causes a user name at the end of the file to be ignored; end the file with a newline character to avoid the bug." (The last part depending on what our research shows.) +.It Fl +The username should not have any characters (such as whitespace) +preceding it or it will be ignored. Preceding AND FOLLOWING IT ON THE SAME LINE. (Depending on research.) +.It Fl +The username must start at the beginning of a line. (^) Redundant. The previous sentence has the same meaning. +.It Fl +Anything else will be ignored as a comment. Anything else than what? Will a "#..." after the user name be ignored as a comment? Yes, but so will the user name. +.El +.Bl -tag -width indent +.Pp +If neither of these files exists, then depending on site-dependent +configuration parameters, only the super user will be allowed to use +this command, or all users will be able to use this command. I had left that for another PR, but that leaves one asking: What configuration parameters? Please send me date/size/md5 info as I did above or any other ideas you might have on determining whether I have old software or why we get different testing results. (I also checked misc.c and crontab.c in http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/cron/ and it seems I've got current code for RELENG_4.) Oh, I tested by simply editing "allow" and running "crontab -l" as a normal user. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 2 18: 6: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (gigo.com [207.173.11.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B180737B419 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from 200.181.48.138 (unknown [200.181.48.138]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13C5B8E3 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 18:05:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9741 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Jan 2002 01:54:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20020103015458.9740.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 23:54:36 -0200 From: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira To: Nik Clayton Cc: Peter Pentchev , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -> (?) References: <20011231100926.A3512@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20020102111934.B70243@clan.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020102111934.B70243@clan.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:19:34AM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-Disclaimer: I hope you find what you are looking for... in life :) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:19:34AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:09:26AM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > Is there a reason to use instead of when referring > > to a port? If not, how about the attached patch? >=20 > I'm still uneasy about . Apart from the ambiguous name: >=20 > The webserver listens on port 80. >=20 > The printer is connected to lpt0. >=20 > the rest of the world prefers the 'package' nomenclature. >=20 > I'd be more comfortable with a=20 >=20 > >=20 > or >=20 > >=20 > mechanism. Or perhaps >=20 > unzip >=20 > or even >=20 > unzip I tend to agree. The later mechanisms both are not ambiguous and help in parsing. Now that we mention it. What about a tag?=20 Furthermore, shouldn't we use more ? TCP,IRC,FTP are all protocols and acronyms.... Regards, --=20 Mario S F Ferreira - DF - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." Computer Science Undergraduate | FreeBSD Committer | CS Developer flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jan 2 19:48:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C47237B41B; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:48:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020103034803.EEWJ6450.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 03:48:03 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g033m3U15483; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 19:48:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201030348.g033m3U15483@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: Nik Clayton , Peter Pentchev , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -> (?) In-reply-to: <20020103015458.9740.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> References: <20011231100926.A3512@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20020102111934.B70243@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20020103015458.9740.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Comments: In-reply-to Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira message dated "Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:54:36 -0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 19:48:02 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:19:34AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:09:26AM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > > Is there a reason to use instead of when referring > > > to a port? If not, how about the attached patch? > > > > I'm still uneasy about . Apart from the ambiguous name: > > > > The webserver listens on port 80. > > > > The printer is connected to lpt0. > > > > the rest of the world prefers the 'package' nomenclature. > > > > I'd be more comfortable with a > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > mechanism. Or perhaps > > > > unzip > > > > or even > > > > unzip > > I tend to agree. The later mechanisms both are not ambiguous > and help in parsing. > Now that we mention it. What about a > tag? > Furthermore, shouldn't we use more ? > > TCP,IRC,FTP are all protocols and acronyms.... Waitasecond. I'm a little leery of adding a lot of Yet Another Element as a non-standard FreeBSD extension to the DocBook DTD. I felt this way when someone introduced but I didn't say so at the time. Maybe I should have...although it'd be easy to switch to something like . Personally, this is the solution I prefer. We should take roam's patch, to get the remaining package names into compliance with our current convention. *Then* we should see about getting rid of and replacing it with or some variant thereof. Bruce. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 1:40: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164CE37B41B for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g039e2G01793; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 01:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201030940.g039e2G01793@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Marc Silver Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Reply-To: Marc Silver Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31265; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Marc Silver To: "Gary W. Swearingen" Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:34:44 +0000 Hi there, On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 03:17:27PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > I find the newest file under /usr/src/usr.sbin/cron to be > /usr/src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.c dated Jun 15 2001; size 13933; > md5 3d7a88f82812c75c7a1ab0d3d806dc86 My MD5 for that file is 3d7a88f82812c75c7a1ab0d3d806dc86, which matches yours... > My /usr/bin/crontab is size 24872, but I'm not sure if that SHOULD > match yours. My file size matches yours. :) > I cvsup'd "RELENG_4/src-all" 26'dec'01 and did "make world" stuff then. I cvsup'd RELENG_4/src-all on 18 December 2001 and did make world then. I have since then cvsup'd every two-three days... > Running as "jojo", I get this with "jojo" at the end of "/var/cron/allow". > > $ crontab -l > crontab: you (jojo) are not allowed to use this program > > $ hd /var/cron/allow | tail -2 > 00000370 20 72 6f 6f 74 2e 0a 72 6f 6f 74 0a 6a 6f 6a 6f | root..root.jojo| > 00000380 Running as "marcs", I get this with the username at the end of /var/cron/allow... pressure (1) : crontab -l 0 10 * * * ( /usr/local/www/generate.pl ) pressure (2) : hd /var/cron/allow | tail -2 00000000 72 6f 6f 74 0a 6d 61 72 63 73 0a |root.marcs.| 0000000b Here I see my output is slightly different to yours, though I am not sure why... [09:20:38] ~ pressure (3) : cat /var/cron/allow root marcs [09:20:41] ~ pressure (4) : Note that I dont have a newline character after the last username. > My /usr/src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.1 and my 4.3R one both have > 3282 Dec 8 2000 /usr/src/usr.sbin/cron/crontab/crontab.1 My file sizes/dates match yours. > I despise aggressiveness and usually restrain myself, but I > occasionally repay inferred offense with implied offense. This time I > tried to merely state what I thought of your changes and not what I > thought of your seeming carelessness in making them. I spent a long > time carefully wording my patch. I would have reacted better to > criticism and suggestions for improvement than to a flat-out > replacement, especially when I find it to be both poorly expressed and > inaccurate. Maybe this is a lesson to push one's PR on people after > it gets ignored. You were mistaken in thinking that I implied offense in the first place. I never said your patch was 'poorly expressed' nor 'inaccurate', though I see you feel the need to criticise mine and be quite harsh in your replies. In fact, you show little or no 'restraint' as far as I'm concerned. I will not waste my time further with this debate. It's obvious that you have resent me sending in this patch, so I will 'withdraw' my patch and my work on this PR can be ignored. > +If neither of these files exists, then depending on site-dependent > +configuration parameters, only the super user will be allowed to use > +this command, or all users will be able to use this command. > > I had left that for another PR, but that leaves one asking: What > configuration parameters? This portion was not written by me, but was merely re-ordered... I wish you the best of luck in getting your patch committed and hope to have better dealings with you in the future. - Marc -- I've learned that being kind is more important than being right. -- Andy Rooney To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 3:21:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from post.webmailer.de (natwar.webmailer.de [192.67.198.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F1437B417 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 03:21:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from floyd.multisys.de (pD4B9F09D.dip.t-dialin.net [212.185.240.157]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18976 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:16:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from animal.multisys.de [192.168.0.11] by floyd.multisys.de with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 16M5hd-0005oX-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:06:29 +0100 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:06:27 +0100 From: Juergen Mayer To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Missing pic Message-ID: <742272770.1010059587@animal.multisys.de> Originator-Info: login-id=jm; server=imap.multisys.de X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.5, s/n P005-300882-001] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, on http://www.de.freebsd.org/handbook/install-steps.html the picture http://www.de.freebsd.org/handbook/install/disk-layout.png couldn't be loaded. This error occours on the other sites (www1.de.freebsd.org, www.freebsd.org) also. Yours J=FCrgen Mayer -- Juergen Mayer MultiSys GmbH * Eberhard-Finckh-Str. 18-20 * D-89075 Ulm * Germany Tel.: +49-731-263511 * Fax.: +49-731-262985 * mailto:jm@multisys.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 4:58: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f186.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B14D37B405 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 04:58:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 04:58:04 -0800 Received: from 24.249.247.100 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:58:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.249.247.100] From: "Jackie Roder" To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Newsletter subscription. Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 07:58:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2002 12:58:04.0473 (UTC) FILETIME=[48554290:01C19456] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would like to describe to the newsletter. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 6:57:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mao.stokely.org (mao.stokely.org [65.84.64.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7CD37B416 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 06:57:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by mao.stokely.org (Postfix, from userid 2074) id 52D274B65D; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 06:57:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 06:57:53 -0800 From: Murray Stokely To: Kajetan.Hinner@wisofak.uni-rostock.de Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: CD vendor entry Message-ID: <20020103065753.J20367@windriver.com> References: <3C33871F.1AF7D32@Hinner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VV4b6MQE+OnNyhkM" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C33871F.1AF7D32@Hinner.com>; from Kajetan@Hinner.com on Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:18:07PM +0100 X-GPG-Key-ID: 1024D/0E451F7D X-GPG-Key-Fingerprint: E2CA 411D DD44 53FD BB4B 3CB5 B4D7 10A2 0E45 1F7D Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --VV4b6MQE+OnNyhkM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:18:07PM +0100, Kajetan Hinner wrote: > I'm a Debian and KDE CD vendor and I'd like to sell BSD CDs also (four > 4.4 CDs for 18 Euro). Cool. You may want to join the vendors@FreeBSD.org mailing list. This is a very low traffic mailing list where announcements relevant to FreeBSD CDROM vendors will be sent. > URL: http://www.hinner.de/linux Can we link directly to the FreeBSD section? Maybe you could add a link ot the ordering information directly on this page : http://www.hinner.de/linux/freebsd.html So that potential FreeBSD users don't have to search through tons of Linux pages before finding out how to order a FreeBSD CD. > Hinner EDV will donate 1 Euro for every FreeBSD > set sold back to the FreeBSD > Project. Cool. Please donate this money to the FreeBSD Foundation, http://www.freebsdfoundation.org. - Murray --VV4b6MQE+OnNyhkM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8NHFwtNcQog5FH30RAvhHAJ9sl/99jgxP+gEICrMwJ3JBcTDYVgCghAEl tL6b/RzLgNKFgTJ43P5mmBU= =ScrB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VV4b6MQE+OnNyhkM-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 8: 1:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44B137B41A for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:01:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020103160133.PBVE20122.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:01:33 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g03G1X089390; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:01:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201031601.g03G1X089390@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Juergen Mayer Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Missing pic In-reply-to: <742272770.1010059587@animal.multisys.de> References: <742272770.1010059587@animal.multisys.de> Comments: In-reply-to Juergen Mayer message dated "Thu, 03 Jan 2002 12:06:27 +0100." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 08:01:32 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Juergen Mayer wrote: > on http://www.de.freebsd.org/handbook/install-steps.html the picture > http://www.de.freebsd.org/handbook/install/disk-layout.png couldn't be > loaded. This error occours on the other sites (www1.de.freebsd.org, > www.freebsd.org) also. Confirmed. In fact, two other people have reported problems with missing images as well...I just checked and they're still missing (the images, not the people). The problems can be seen on these pages: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/sockets-essential-functions.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/natd.html The missing images all started life as EPS images. I don't know whether or not that's significant. I just did a build of the Web site on my workstation, and the images all built and installed correctly, so I'm not sure what the problem is. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 8: 9:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from meta.lo-res.org (meta.lo-res.org [195.58.189.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE1437B416; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 08:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (chillig.lo-res.org [62.116.8.4]) by meta.lo-res.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g03G98v18024; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:09:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from aaron@lo-res.org) Message-Id: <200201031609.g03G98v18024@meta.lo-res.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: aaron To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apropos Euro-HOWTO Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:09:08 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <200201011627.g01GR4v08652@meta.lo-res.org> <20020103022735.C803@v-ger.we.lc.ehu.es> <20020103120813.A92358@graf.pompo.net> In-Reply-To: <20020103120813.A92358@graf.pompo.net> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [sorry for x-posting, mail originated on -stable, moving to -doc] Thanks everybody for all the feedback & help. I summarized all your input and set up my _first_ SGML article under http://www.fastforward.at/~aaron/article.html (.sgml) :). Everybody highly welcome to send criticism and feedback. Still working on the IPv6 article, but a short "HOWTO set up the Euro key" in SGML was the fastest way to learn docbook. aaron. -- RIPE - Rest In Peace, E-commerce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 10:44:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF0A37B417 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:44:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g03IjWD15568 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:45:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C34A851.7000908@pittgoth.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 13:52:01 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freeBSD-doc@freebsd.org Subject: project primer lost? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org May I make a comment that, on the FreeBSD website, under the documentation project, the primer is burried under the "SGML and the Documentation Project" part on the main page. Why not link it to the main documentation project, I agree that anyone who wants to contribute should read it, but under "Who are we and how to join" section also? I think it would be benificial to either link it here also or on the main page... any complaints? -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 13:59:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE3637B41F for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA45227 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 08:59:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from axc@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (amanda.itga.com.au [192.168.71.28]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12864; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 08:59:09 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3C34D4E0.778173C7@itga.com.au> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 06:02:08 +0800 From: Amanda X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe freebsd-hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 14: 0:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1E837B41C for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA45237 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:00:07 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from axc@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (amanda.itga.com.au [192.168.71.28]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13047; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:00:07 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <3C34D51A.78A63BDB@itga.com.au> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 06:03:06 +0800 From: Amanda X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 15:31: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mydomain.com (massy-1-2-1-192.dial.9tel.net [212.30.99.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635FF37B41F; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:30:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 00:27:49 +0100 From: fabricehalimi@aol.com To: RESPONSABLE@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: LA ROLLS DES SITES POUR 650 EUROS X-Mailer: DMailer for Windows V1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: <20020103233028.635FF37B41F@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org BONJOUR, SI VOTRE SITE INTERNET NE VOUS DONNE PAS TOUT A FAIT SATISFACTION, - IMPOSSIBLE OU DIFFICILE A METTRE A JOUR - COUTEUX EN HEBERGEMENT - MAL REFERENCE - PAS RENTABLE - PAS DE COMMERCE EN LIGNE - PEU GRAPHIQUE OU PEU RATIONNEL - SIMPLE SITE VITRINE SANS INTELLIGENCE INFORMATIQUE - LIMITE EN NOMBRE DE PAGES ET PHOTOS - MANQUE D'AUTONOMIE OU SI VOUS SOUHAITEZ SIMPLEMENT LE FAIRE DEVELOPPER. 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Swearingen) Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Reply-To: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/31265; it has been noted by GNATS. From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Marc Silver Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/31265: crontab(1) doesn't decribe format of allow and deny files. Date: 03 Jan 2002 15:31:38 -0800 Marc Silver writes: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 03:17:27PM -0800, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > > [stuff at this level] > > > > $ hd /var/cron/allow | tail -2 > > 00000370 20 72 6f 6f 74 2e 0a 72 6f 6f 74 0a 6a 6f 6a 6f | root..root.jojo| > > 00000380 > > pressure (2) : hd /var/cron/allow | tail -2 > 00000000 72 6f 6f 74 0a 6d 61 72 63 73 0a |root.marcs.| 0000000b > > Here I see my output is slightly different to yours, though I am not > sure why... I consider this to be conclusive evidence that your testing was erroneous so that your only explicit criticism of the original patch should be ignored. You apparently have not tested with a user name at the end of the file without a trailing newline character as you claimed. I still think that user names must each start at the beginning of a line and must be followed immediately by a newline character -- all other lines are ignored. (They probably also must be in some user account config file(s) but that should go without saying.) As for the state of the PR, I'm still not aware of anything particularly wrong with the original patch and hope that committers will consider that patch. I'll consider modifying it in response to criticisms of it and suggestions for its improvement, of course. In case you're still interested, that "0a" just after "73" in your "hd" output is the "newline" character at issue. Your file ends with a newline character (so your user name is used); mine doesn't (so my user name is ignored). As you can see, newline at the end of a file is a troublesome thing. Some programs consider newline to be a part of a line and insist on ending the file with a line with a newline. My editor (XEmacs) will not move the cursor below the "jojo" line of my file, but will move it below the "marcs" line of yours and will increment the line count in doing so. The "wc" program would show one more line in yours than mine. The "diff" program seems to see a blank line in both files and shows two blank lines as being different. Your shell (and my pdksh) seem to ignore the empty line so it doesn't show as a blank line. (I'll go to private mail for some social debugging.) > I've learned that being kind is more important than being right. > -- Andy Rooney I've been listening to Andy for at least 25 years and even read one of his books. He's the kind of guy that has likely also said the exact opposite because it's just as profound or cute or whatever he's going for at the time. (In fact, "kind" and "right" are more important than the other in different circumstances.) He's made a career out of complaining about what people do wrong on a show that does the same and they all have found it important to be unkind and, worse, unfair. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 17:21: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C959037B417; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 17:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black-fxp0.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:206:5bff:fe05:7828]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A0424D61; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:20:58 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:230:48ff:fe41:161b]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4B51E46E8; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:20:57 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:20:54 +0900 Message-ID: <7mn0zu29op.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: alex@FreeBSD.org Cc: Documentation Team Subject: Please clarify English sentence User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/21.1 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOC1MWhsoQg==?=) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm translating this sentence, but I cannot understand "analyzing, caching and rewriting or reordering" means. Can someone clarify this sentence to easy English? -----
  • Soft Updates allow improved file system performance without sacrificing safety and reliability, by intelligently analyzing, caching and rewriting or reordering disk meta-data operations.
    • ----- -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 22:48:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4305937B436 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13593 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 06:47:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Jan 2002 06:47:47 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7mn0zu29op.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:47:32 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Jun Kuriyama Subject: RE: Please clarify English sentence Cc: Documentation Team , alex@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04-Jan-02 Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > I'm translating this sentence, but I cannot understand "analyzing, > caching and rewriting or reordering" means. > > Can someone clarify this sentence to easy English? I don't think I can fit it one sentence, but maybe this will help: > ----- >
  • Soft Updates allow improved file system performance > without sacrificing safety and reliability, by intelligently > analyzing, caching and rewriting or reordering disk > meta-data > operations.
    • > ----- First off, this sentence is bogus. The comma before by is wrong. It really should be more than one sentence anyway: Also, soft updates as an entity is sinuglar, not plural. It's one specific algorithm. Soft Updates allows improved file system performance without sacrificing safety and reliability. It analyzes meta-data filesystem operations to avoid having to perform all of those operations synchronously. Instead, it maintains internal state about pending meta-data operations and uses this information to cache meta-data, rewrite meta-data operations to combine subsequent operations on the same files, and reorder meta-data operations so that they may be processed more efficiently. Does that help? The trick is that "rewrite or reorder" is one entity along with "cache" and "analyze", but it doesn't read well as you point out. :) -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 3 23:21:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from white.imgsrc.co.jp (ns.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7712337B41F; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 23:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from black.imgsrc.co.jp (black-fxp0.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:206:5bff:fe05:7828]) by white.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B66D24D56; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:21:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [2001:218:422:2:230:48ff:fe41:161b]) by black.imgsrc.co.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9B81E46E8; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:21:10 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 16:21:06 +0900 Message-ID: <7mbsga1t0d.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: John Baldwin Cc: Documentation Team , alex@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please clarify English sentence In-Reply-To: References: <7mn0zu29op.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.6.0 (Twist And Shout) SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/21.1 (i386--freebsd) MULE/5.0 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOC1MWhsoQg==?=) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:47:32 -0800 (PST), John Baldwin wrote: > First off, this sentence is bogus. The comma before by is wrong. It really > should be more than one sentence anyway: Also, soft updates as an entity is > sinuglar, not plural. It's one specific algorithm. > > Soft Updates allows improved file system performance without sacrificing > safety and reliability. It analyzes meta-data filesystem operations to > avoid having to perform all of those operations synchronously. Instead, it > maintains internal state about pending meta-data operations and uses this > information to cache meta-data, rewrite meta-data operations to combine > subsequent operations on the same files, and reorder meta-data operations so > that they may be processed more efficiently. > > Does that help? The trick is that "rewrite or reorder" is one entity along > with "cache" and "analyze", but it doesn't read well as you point out. :) Thanks! I can translate this sentence more easily. I'll commit this into English version of www/en/feature.sgml and translate it into Japanese. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 4 2: 8:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow029o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F4A37B41B for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 02:08:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcow029o.blueyonder.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:08:48 +0000 Received: from fluoxetine.lan (unverified) by pcow029o.blueyonder.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:08:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:12:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew McKay X-Sender: andy@fluoxetine.lan To: aaron Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apropos Euro-HOWTO In-Reply-To: <200201031609.g03G98v18024@meta.lo-res.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-902776870-1010139124=:2317" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-902776870-1010139124=:2317 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, aaron wrote: > Everybody highly welcome to send criticism and feedback. It was interested to see this article as it is something I had been pondering recently. On the whole I found it very helpful and only in the bash section did I find my experience differ from what is written. I am attaching a patch which changes the article a) to what I believe to be the correct format for your example and b) to point people in the right direction for their correct locale info. I hope you find this useful. I'm guessing this is still a work in progress? It could use one or two grammar and style alterations in places, imho, but is, I would say, a very good first attempt. If you would like me to give suggestions on grammar and style then I will do. If not I can live with that :) Thanks again - I now have my Euro symbol. 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Pinto" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010914 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: search engine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please, what is the search engine used in the FreeBSD site? Thank you verry much. Jefferson F. Pinto To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 4 5:56:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1C7737B41D for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 05:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7897 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Jan 2002 13:55:16 -0000 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:55:16 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -> (?) Message-ID: <20020104155516.B328@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: "Bruce A. Mah" , Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011231100926.A3512@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20020102111934.B70243@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20020103015458.9740.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <200201030348.g033m3U15483@bmah.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200201030348.g033m3U15483@bmah.dyndns.org>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 07:48:02PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 07:48:02PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > If memory serves me right, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:19:34AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:09:26AM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > > > Is there a reason to use instead of when referring > > > > to a port? If not, how about the attached patch? > > > > > > I'm still uneasy about . Apart from the ambiguous name: > > > > > > The webserver listens on port 80. > > > > > > The printer is connected to lpt0. > > > > > > the rest of the world prefers the 'package' nomenclature. > > > > > > I'd be more comfortable with a > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > mechanism. Or perhaps > > > > > > unzip > > > > > > or even > > > > > > unzip > > > > I tend to agree. The later mechanisms both are not ambiguous > > and help in parsing. > > Now that we mention it. What about a > > tag? > > Furthermore, shouldn't we use more ? > > > > TCP,IRC,FTP are all protocols and acronyms.... > > Waitasecond. I'm a little leery of adding a lot of Yet Another Element > as a non-standard FreeBSD extension to the DocBook DTD. > > I felt this way when someone introduced but I didn't say > so at the time. Maybe I should have...although it'd be easy to switch > to something like . Personally, > this is the solution I prefer. > > We should take roam's patch, to get the remaining package names into > compliance with our current convention. *Then* we should see about > getting rid of and replacing it with class="package"> or some variant thereof. FWIW, I agree with this - and not just because it's my patch :) Yes, is misleading; yes, we should think of something better; but when we do, it will be much, much easier to do a mass-replace of .. with ..., if we are certain that this will catch *all* referrals to ports and packages. G'luck, Peter -- Do you think anybody has ever had *precisely this thought* before? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 4 7:39:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B8F37B420; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 07:39:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (lcl234.zbzoom.net [208.236.36.234]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g04FdhD17330; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 10:39:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C35CE4A.40904@pittgoth.com> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 10:46:18 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes Reply-To: darklogik@pittgoth.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Pentchev Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -> (?) References: <20011231100926.A3512@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20020102111934.B70243@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20020103015458.9740.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <200201030348.g033m3U15483@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020104155516.B328@straylight.oblivion.bg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Pentchev wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 07:48:02PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > >>If memory serves me right, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: >> >>>On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:19:34AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:09:26AM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: >>>> >>>>>Is there a reason to use instead of when referring >>>>>to a port? If not, how about the attached patch? >>>>> >>>>I'm still uneasy about . Apart from the ambiguous name: >>>> >>>> The webserver listens on port 80. >>>> >>>> The printer is connected to lpt0. >>>> >>>>the rest of the world prefers the 'package' nomenclature. >>>> >>>>I'd be more comfortable with a >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>or >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>mechanism. Or perhaps >>>> >>>> unzip >>>> >>>>or even >>>> >>>> unzip >>>> >>> I tend to agree. The later mechanisms both are not ambiguous >>>and help in parsing. >>> Now that we mention it. What about a >>>tag? >>> Furthermore, shouldn't we use more ? >>> >>> TCP,IRC,FTP are all protocols and acronyms.... >>> >>Waitasecond. I'm a little leery of adding a lot of Yet Another Element >>as a non-standard FreeBSD extension to the DocBook DTD. >> >>I felt this way when someone introduced but I didn't say >>so at the time. Maybe I should have...although it'd be easy to switch >>to something like . Personally, >>this is the solution I prefer. >> >>We should take roam's patch, to get the remaining package names into >>compliance with our current convention. *Then* we should see about >>getting rid of and replacing it with >class="package"> or some variant thereof. >> > > FWIW, I agree with this - and not just because it's my patch :) > Yes, is misleading; yes, we should think of something better; > but when we do, it will be much, much easier to do a mass-replace > of .. with ..., > if we are certain that this will catch *all* referrals to ports and > packages. > > G'luck, > Peter > > cat chapter.sgml | sed "s/\//g" | sed "s/\<\\/port\>//g" > chapter.sgml.new && mv chapter.sgml chapter.old then just move chapter.sgml.new to chapter.sgml or add another && mv command in the section above to do it all in one swift stroke. Maywbe an awk scrip would do the trick on this also :) opinions? That will just be a quick clean to the ... reference, I used it before in an sgml doc, and noticed that it saved me alot of time cleaning up and changing tags. -- Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 4 7:51: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02ECE37B41E for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 07:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 50168 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Jan 2002 15:49:42 -0000 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:49:42 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Tom Rhodes Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -> (?) Message-ID: <20020104174942.E328@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Rhodes , "Bruce A. Mah" , Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011231100926.A3512@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20020102111934.B70243@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20020103015458.9740.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <200201030348.g033m3U15483@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020104155516.B328@straylight.oblivion.bg> <3C35CE4A.40904@pittgoth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C35CE4A.40904@pittgoth.com>; from darklogik@pittgoth.com on Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:46:18AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:46:18AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Peter Pentchev wrote: > > > > FWIW, I agree with this - and not just because it's my patch :) > > Yes, is misleading; yes, we should think of something better; > > but when we do, it will be much, much easier to do a mass-replace > > of .. with ..., > > if we are certain that this will catch *all* referrals to ports and > > packages. > > > > G'luck, > > Peter > > > > > > cat chapter.sgml | sed "s/\//g" | sed "s/\<\\/port\>//g" > > chapter.sgml.new && mv chapter.sgml chapter.old > > then just move chapter.sgml.new to chapter.sgml or add another && mv > command in the section above to do it all in one swift stroke. Maywbe > an awk scrip would do the trick on this also :) opinions? > > That will just be a quick clean to the ... reference, I > used it before in an sgml doc, and noticed that it saved me alot of time > cleaning up and changing tags. Errr... I believe that Nik's original objection was not to the tag in general (as something which marks a port and adds a hyperlink to the port's description and stuff), but to the poor choice of naming (as something which introduces a semantical conflict with the lot of other uses of the word 'port' WRT computer science). Just removing the tags would not make things better in any way, IMHO; replacing the tags with something more appropriately named and more easily extensible (see PR docs/32478 for an example of how the tag is currently unable to link to a description file which is not named pkg-descr) would help us all move one step closer to a perfectly documented world :) Oh, and I guess I need to go get another Coke and start writing in reasonably-sized sentences.. G'luck, Peter -- I had to translate this sentence into English because I could not read the original Sanskrit. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 4 7:55:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from straylight.ringlet.net (discworld.nanolink.com [217.75.135.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59F2537B416 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 07:55:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 50239 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Jan 2002 15:53:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:53:45 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Tom Rhodes Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -> (?) Message-ID: <20020104175345.F328@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Tom Rhodes , "Bruce A. Mah" , Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011231100926.A3512@straylight.oblivion.bg> <20020102111934.B70243@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20020103015458.9740.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <200201030348.g033m3U15483@bmah.dyndns.org> <20020104155516.B328@straylight.oblivion.bg> <3C35CE4A.40904@pittgoth.com> <20020104174942.E328@straylight.oblivion.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020104174942.E328@straylight.oblivion.bg>; from roam@ringlet.net on Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 05:49:42PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 05:49:42PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:46:18AM -0500, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > Peter Pentchev wrote: > > > > > > FWIW, I agree with this - and not just because it's my patch :) > > > Yes, is misleading; yes, we should think of something better; > > > but when we do, it will be much, much easier to do a mass-replace > > > of .. with ..., > > > if we are certain that this will catch *all* referrals to ports and > > > packages. > > > > > > G'luck, > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > cat chapter.sgml | sed "s/\//g" | sed "s/\<\\/port\>//g" > > > chapter.sgml.new && mv chapter.sgml chapter.old > > > > then just move chapter.sgml.new to chapter.sgml or add another && mv > > command in the section above to do it all in one swift stroke. Maywbe > > an awk scrip would do the trick on this also :) opinions? > > > > That will just be a quick clean to the ... reference, I > > used it before in an sgml doc, and noticed that it saved me alot of time > > cleaning up and changing tags. > > Errr... I believe that Nik's original objection was not to the > tag in general (as something which marks a port and adds a hyperlink > to the port's description and stuff), but to the poor choice of naming > (as something which introduces a semantical conflict with the lot of > other uses of the word 'port' WRT computer science). Just removing > the tags would not make things better in any way, IMHO; replacing > the tags with something more appropriately named and more easily > extensible (see PR docs/32478 for an example of how the tag is Make that docs/32468. I wonder how I managed to mess up typing a perfect sequence of even digits. > currently unable to link to a description file which is not named pkg-descr) > would help us all move one step closer to a perfectly documented world :) > Oh, and I guess I need to go get another Coke and start writing in > reasonably-sized sentences.. This one still applies :) G'luck, Peter -- Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 4 13:27:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from web21106.mail.yahoo.com (web21106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.227.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8955537B41A for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:27:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20020104212709.3086.qmail@web21106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.254.0.5] by web21106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:27:09 PST Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:27:09 -0800 (PST) From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: -> (?) To: doc@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <3C35CE4A.40904@pittgoth.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, I am sure there is a tag which has a lot of functionality. Maybe what we can do , is add more attribute values to it, rather than making whole new tags. and other values to the 'class' attribute, we can add port, protocol, and other ones like them... what do you think? regards, - Hiten - --- Tom Rhodes wrote: > Peter Pentchev wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 07:48:02PM -0800, Bruce A. > Mah wrote: > > > >>If memory serves me right, Mario Sergio Fujikawa > Ferreira wrote: > >> > >>>On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 11:19:34AM +0000, Nik > Clayton wrote: > >>> > >>>>On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:09:26AM +0200, Peter > Pentchev wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>Is there a reason to use instead of > when referring > >>>>>to a port? If not, how about the attached > patch? > >>>>> > >>>>I'm still uneasy about . Apart from the > ambiguous name: > >>>> > >>>> The webserver listens on port > 80. > >>>> > >>>> The printer is connected to > lpt0. > >>>> > >>>>the rest of the world prefers the 'package' > nomenclature. > >>>> > >>>>I'd be more comfortable with a > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>or > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>mechanism. Or perhaps > >>>> > >>>> category="archivers">unzip > >>>> > >>>>or even > >>>> > >>>> package="archivers/unzip">unzip > >>>> > >>> I tend to agree. The later mechanisms both are > not ambiguous > >>>and help in parsing. > >>> Now that we mention it. What about a > > >>>tag? > >>> Furthermore, shouldn't we use more > ? > >>> > >>> TCP,IRC,FTP are all protocols and acronyms.... > >>> > >>Waitasecond. I'm a little leery of adding a lot > of Yet Another Element > >>as a non-standard FreeBSD extension to the DocBook > DTD. > >> > >>I felt this way when someone introduced > but I didn't say > >>so at the time. Maybe I should have...although > it'd be easy to switch > >>to something like class="package">. Personally, > >>this is the solution I prefer. > >> > >>We should take roam's patch, to get the remaining > package names into > >>compliance with our current convention. *Then* we > should see about > >>getting rid of and replacing it with > >>class="package"> or some variant > thereof. > >> > > > > FWIW, I agree with this - and not just because > it's my patch :) > > Yes, is misleading; yes, we should think of > something better; > > but when we do, it will be much, much easier to do > a mass-replace > > of .. with role="better">..., > > if we are certain that this will catch *all* > referrals to ports and > > packages. > > > > G'luck, > > Peter > > > > > > cat chapter.sgml | sed "s/\//g" | sed > "s/\<\\/port\>//g" > > chapter.sgml.new && mv chapter.sgml chapter.old > > then just move chapter.sgml.new to chapter.sgml or > add another && mv > command in the section above to do it all in one > swift stroke. Maywbe > an awk scrip would do the trick on this also :) > opinions? > > That will just be a quick clean to the > ... reference, I > used it before in an sgml doc, and noticed that it > saved me alot of time > cleaning up and changing tags. > > -- > Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes > www.Pittgoth.com Gothic Liberation Front > www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message ===== SSH Fingerprint: 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 4 15:51:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (gigo.com [207.173.11.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D64237B405 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:51:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp072-bsace7023.telebrasilia.net.br (ppp072-bsace7023.telebrasilia.net.br [200.163.6.72]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B71B8D5 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 35647 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Jan 2002 23:50:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20020104235040.35646.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:50:18 -0200 From: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Jose Porfirio , Roberto Cantanhede Subject: Generating 2 file versions of the same info (xml+glossary related) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.5-PRERELEASE X-Disclaimer: I hope you find what you are looking for... in life :) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I wrote a short glossary I use for the translation effort from English to Brazilian Portuguese of the FreeBSD documentation. We (the translant are about to finish a couple chapters from the Handbook. I wanted to add this glossary to the translated documentation. This glossary would be for the whole translated documentation not only for a particular part (e.g., handbook). Therefore, I was thinking about adding it as pt_BR.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/glossary.sgml with an appropriate entry to pt_BR.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/bookinfo.ent. For instance, A authored escrito B backward-compatible compatível de forma regressa S set ajustar; atribuir gives entries for both authored, backward-compatible and set. All documents in the pt_BR.ISO8859-1 would have pointers to the glossary. So, I have an English to Brazilian Portuguese which helps both readers and translators since they can try to understand how things were translated. This is important because many english words have a clear context due to their open use in Computer related literature. However, no such semantic background may exist for their translated counterparts. Nevertheless, what about users trying to understand "compatível de forma regressa"? They may clearly understand backward-compatible but completely miss "compatível de forma regressa". Where the hell did that come from? :) That's where a Brazilian Portuguese to English glossary is most helpful. The English to Brazilian Portuguese glossary above translated to a Brazilian Portuguese to English one: A ajustar set atribuir atribuir set ajustar C compatível de forma regressa backward-compatible E escrito authored As you can see, "set" became 2 entries ("ajustar" and "atribuir") parsed by the ';' separator with appropriate entries. Furthermore, the glossdef "compatível de forma regressa" became id "compativel--de--forma--regressa", for id only accepts alphanumeric and dash ("-") characters. As you can see, there are good reasons to have both files. Moreover, we can have the words point to their glossary entries which helps a lot. Furthermore, we could add "dictionary definitions" (written by the users, not taken from actual dictinaries due to Copyright issues) to some entries. C compatível de forma regressa backward-compatible, compatible with previous versions These 2 files can be easily generated from a well delimited file authored|escrito set|ajustar|atribuir backward-compatible|compatível de forma regressa using a perl script. Nonetheless, we have xml tools in the doc system. And, this is a prime candidate for a xml parsing tool. It could automagically generate both files from a xml file. I know this is possible and, hopefully, not difficult but I lack the knowledge to do it. Anyone volunteers? Nik? This would be a huge improvement for the translating teams. And, to the english documentation itself since we could begin using glossary dictionary definitions to clarify some texts. Regards, -- Mario S F Ferreira - DF - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." Computer Science Undergraduate | FreeBSD Committer | CS Developer flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 4 20:46:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from flashmail.com (flash4.flashmail.com [207.173.216.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E1F737B419 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21464 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2002 04:43:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO eplaz) (210.57.144.254) by 0 with SMTP; 5 Jan 2002 04:43:59 -0000 From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCSH5KZhsoQg==?= To: Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJWEla00nJEskSiRDJEYkTSEjGyhC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20020105044622.4E1F737B419@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:46:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $B$3$s$K$A$O!"%W%i%$%Y!<%H(BH$B%S%G%*;#$j$^$7$?!#Gc$C$F$/$l$??M$K$OD>%"%I65$($k$N$G%a%kM'$K$J$j$^$;$s$+!)Gc$C$F$/$l$k?M$O!"#H#P$r8+$F$M!#%W%m%U$H$+$"$k$h!#(B http://www.d-mix.net/ $B$@$h!#(B To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 4 21:28:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6F837B419 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 21:28:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (zbay5-34.fyi.net [206.80.158.34]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g055TED18236 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:29:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C368FDC.1060106@pittgoth.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 00:32:12 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: grrr TeX error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Recenly playing around with the docproj, I decided to generate a "pdf" file... TeX keeps giving me a "String Size" error. Apperently, I need to increase the string size, this is after a pool size error. Adding: POOL_SIZE = 100000 to the texmf.cfm file fixed the pool size error, but I cannot get rid of this string error. Methods I've used are: using texconfig init (like the readme explains on number 24) and adding: string_size = 9000000 STRING_SIZE = 900000 string_pool_size = 900000 STRING_POOL_SIZE = 90000 Now, I do not know if this makes any different, but jade gives me a ton of "element not defined" after running the huge command of jade -Vtex-backend \ blah \ blah \ like it informs me to do in the document. Other methods i've made an attempt at using to get around this are: installing the docproj port package by package, then just using the meta port (with make JADETEX=yes) install. When I tried to download the ghostscript package today, I got nothing but a "file not found error" if I get the same tomarrow, i'll just email the maintainer. Has ANYONE a clue at how to get around this, should I try to reinstall TeX manually or? Any help would be very usefull, and i'm sorry to bother all Tom (Darklogik) Rhodes www.Pittgoth.com -Gothic Liberation Front www.FreeBSD.org -The Power To Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 4 23:47: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pom.INS.cwru.edu (pom.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D2237B41B for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 23:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (c4-1d043.neo.rr.com [24.93.243.43]) by pom.INS.cwru.edu with ESMTP (8.8.8+cwru/CWRU-1.0-smtprelay) id CAA10946; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 02:47:00 -0500 (EST) (from sjh13@po.cwru.edu) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 02:46:59 -0500 Subject: Re: grrr TeX error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v480) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org To: Tom Rhodes From: Steven Huwig In-Reply-To: <3C368FDC.1060106@pittgoth.com> Message-Id: <6665B4EE-01B0-11D6-A7CB-00039371E6EC@po.cwru.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.480) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 12:32 AM, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > jade -Vtex-backend \ > blah \ > blah \ > like it informs me to do in the document. Other methods i've made an > attempt at using did you try make FORMATS=pdf? or is this something not in the /doc tree? -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 2:50: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A60037B41A for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 02:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05Ao1C93248; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 02:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 02:50:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201051050.g05Ao1C93248@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Massimiliano Stucchi" Subject: Re: docs/32339: Sending italian translation for new users article Reply-To: "Massimiliano Stucchi" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32339; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Massimiliano Stucchi" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: docs/32339: Sending italian translation for new users article Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:42:24 +0100 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C195DE.0AF4FAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've set up Makefiles, too. you can find everything on = Http://www.stucchi.dnsalias.net/docs/ in the italian directory. Please = download the article from here as well ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C195DE.0AF4FAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable     ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C195DE.0AF4FAB0-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 6:23: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 970C837B417 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 06:23:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from dial-up-mi-720.lombardiacom.it (HELO max) (212.34.227.212) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2002 14:23:02 -0000 Message-ID: <006101c195f4$4760f560$0300a8c0@max> From: "Massimiliano Stucchi" To: Subject: Italian Documentation Project Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:21:32 +0100 Organization: WillyStudios, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've set up the base dir content for the Italian DocProj. If someone wants to to put everything I've done in the tree, please get on Http://stucchi.dnsalias.net/docs/ and follow the path to the italian dir. You'll find makefiles and a translation (new-users). If someone has time to do this before the outcome of 4.5 , I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Massimiliano Stucchi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 7:30: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264E837B416 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05FU2l76637; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:30:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:30:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201051530.g05FU2l76637@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: docs/32020 (close request) Reply-To: Hiten Pandya Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32020; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Hiten Pandya To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Cc: bmah@packetdesign.com Subject: Re: docs/32020 (close request) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 15:18:32 +0000 hi, This PR can now be closed, as most of the tunables are in the loader(8) man page, and I have also submitted a patch to the kern.maxusers tunable addition, in my last follow-up before this one to this PR.. I am currently working on making a list -- SSH Fingerprint: 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 7:30:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D6E37B41B for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05FU3c76670; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:30:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201051530.g05FU3c76670@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Hiten Pandya Subject: Re: docs/32020 (close request - correct one) Reply-To: Hiten Pandya Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32020; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Hiten Pandya To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, bmah@packetdesign.com Cc: Subject: Re: docs/32020 (close request - correct one) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 15:23:34 +0000 hi, oops, the last followup was mocked up because of my mailer.. (this followup might have ^M characters) This PR can be closed, as I am currently working on an article which will list all the various tunables and how to use them. I also submitted a patch for the loader(8) man page to address the kern.maxusers boot-time tunable, which was sent on Tue, 11 Dec 2001 04:25:37 -0800 (PST) as a follow-up to this PR. thanks, regards, - Hiten - -- SSH Fingerprint: 1024 45:a5:9c:f2:fb:07:da:70:18:02:0b:f3:63:f1:7a:a6 hitenp@hpdi.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 7:32:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [216.240.32.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BC137B419 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from cfcl.com (cpe-24-221-169-54.ca.sprintbbd.net [24.221.169.54]) by idiom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA64032 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.254.205] (cerberus [192.168.254.205]) by cfcl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g05FZNi80464 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:35:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 07:27:01 -0800 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rich Morin Subject: "DOSSIER and the Meta Project", in January 2002 Daemon News Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Unixish operating systems (BSD, GNU/Linux, Solaris, etc.) are quite complex. Although a large amount of documentation exists for these systems, the coverage is incomplete in several fundamental ways. This article describes the problem, a proposed remedy, and a supporting business model!" -- "DOSSIER and the Meta Project" January 2002 Daemon News http://www.daemonnews.org/200201/meta.html Note: The article uses FreeBSD for most of its examples, just as the DOSSIER series and the Meta Demo (aka the FreeBSD Browser) do. -r -- email: rdm@cfcl.com; phone: +1 650-873-7841 http://www.cfcl.com/rdm - my home page, resume, etc. http://www.cfcl.com/Meta - The FreeBSD Browser, Meta Project, etc. http://www.ptf.com/dossier - Prime Time Freeware's DOSSIER series http://www.ptf.com/tdc - Prime Time Freeware's Darwin Collection To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 8:40: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B915337B419 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 08:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05Ge3B88240; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 08:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 08:40:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201051640.g05Ge3B88240@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: bmah@packetdesign.com (Bruce A. Mah) Subject: Re: docs/32020 (close request - correct one) Reply-To: bmah@packetdesign.com (Bruce A. Mah) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/32020; it has been noted by GNATS. From: bmah@packetdesign.com (Bruce A. Mah) To: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, bmah@packetdesign.com Subject: Re: docs/32020 (close request - correct one) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 08:31:00 -0800 If memory serves me right, Hiten Pandya wrote: > This PR can be closed, as I am currently working on an article which > will list all the various tunables and how to use them. No. In the FreeBSD Project, we do not close PRs until they are in some way resolved. This normally means that the problem gets fixed, or that it is no longer an issue. Although I encourage your work on documenting the loader tunables, PR 32020 should stay open until the loader(8) manpage is completed. > I also > submitted > a patch for the loader(8) man page to address the kern.maxusers > boot-time > tunable, which was sent on Tue, 11 Dec 2001 04:25:37 -0800 (PST) as a > follow-up to this PR. You also submitted the patch twice, in two separate PRs, which I closed because: 1) The information you gave was superceded by the autotuning maxusers code and 2) someone already committed the correct information. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 9:22:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B918537B41B for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 09:22:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pittgoth.com (zbay3-130.fyi.net [206.80.157.130]) by pittgoth.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g05HNMD21533; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:23:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from darklogik@pittgoth.com) Message-ID: <3C37373C.2050303@pittgoth.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 12:26:20 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven Huwig , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: grrr TeX error References: <6665B4EE-01B0-11D6-A7CB-00039371E6EC@po.cwru.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steven Huwig wrote: > > On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 12:32 AM, Tom Rhodes wrote: In debugging, I did try to make FORMAT=pfd on it, and obtained an article.tex-pdf. 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    To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 10:32:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B51F37B41C for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05IWPt14276; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:32:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:32:25 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Massimiliano Stucchi Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Italian Documentation Project Message-ID: <20020105133225.A14255@blackhelicopters.org> References: <006101c195f4$4760f560$0300a8c0@max> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <006101c195f4$4760f560$0300a8c0@max>; from willythemax@yahoo.it on Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 03:21:32PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Massimiliano, Thanks! Your best bet with this sort of thing is to submit it with send-pr(1). That way, it gets into the tracking system and will keep bugging us every week until someone takes care of it. Thanks again! On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 03:21:32PM +0100, Massimiliano Stucchi wrote: > I've set up the base dir content for the Italian DocProj. If someone wants > to to put everything I've done in the tree, please get on > Http://stucchi.dnsalias.net/docs/ and follow the path to the italian dir. > You'll find makefiles and a translation (new-users). If someone has time to > do this before the outcome of 4.5 , I would really appreciate it. > > > Thanks in advance. > > Massimiliano Stucchi > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org my FreeBSD column: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 10:41:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F75237B41A for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020105184105.LWFO24940.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 18:41:05 +0000 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05If1B37689; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:41:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200201051841.g05If1B37689@bmah.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Tom Rhodes Cc: Steven Huwig , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: grrr TeX error In-reply-to: <3C37373C.2050303@pittgoth.com> References: <6665B4EE-01B0-11D6-A7CB-00039371E6EC@po.cwru.edu> <3C37373C.2050303@pittgoth.com> Comments: In-reply-to Tom Rhodes message dated "Sat, 05 Jan 2002 12:26:20 -0500." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 10:41:01 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Tom Rhodes wrote: > Steven Huwig wrote: > > > > > On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 12:32 AM, Tom Rhodes wrote: > > > In debugging, I did try to make FORMAT=pfd on it, and obtained an > article.tex-pdf. But is this a TeX file or a PDF file with a .tex > extention, or should I run it through pdftex after this, at which point > I'll obtain the same error because it happends whenever I try to run > anything through tex If you do: % make FORMATS=pdf in one of the directories for a DocProj document, you should eventually wind up with (among other things) a PDF file named (in your case) article.pdf. article.tex-pdf is a by-product. You shouldn't have to do anything with it explicitly. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 10:47: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from carbon.btinternet.com (carbon.btinternet.com [194.73.73.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F173E37B41A; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:45:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from host213-123-134-22.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.123.134.22] helo=dvsgroup) by carbon.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16MvnT-0003k1-00; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 18:43:59 +0000 Received: from Spooler by dvsgroup (Mercury/32 v3.01a) ID MO005490; 5 Jan 02 18:42:38 -0000 Received: from spooler by dvsgroup (Mercury/32 v3.01a); 5 Jan 02 18:42:10 -0000 Received: from user (4.48.5.139) by dvsgroup (Mercury/32 v3.01a) ID MG005487; 5 Jan 02 18:41:08 -0000 From: smr1tks@oa.sharp.co.jp To: Subject: Five Dollar Reports Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 12:00:49 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <11BC4AF14ECC@dvsgroup> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Friend: AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV: ''Making over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars expense one time'' THANKS TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET! 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I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I ''knew'' it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old ''I told you so'' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had received a total of $ 147,200.00 all cash!I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her ''hobby''. Mitchell Wolf, M.D. , Chicago, Illinois ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back. I was surprised when I found my medium size post office box crammed with orders. 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My first month I made $ 20, 560.00 and by the end of third month my total cash count was $ 362,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanx to Internet''. Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON OUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM! ================================================= If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C. his message is sent in compliance of the proposed bill SECTION 301. per Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618. Further transmission to you by the sender of this e-mail may be stopped promptly by sending a reply with the word REMOVE in the subject Line to the email address at the top of this page. This message is not intended for residents in the State of Washington, screening of addresses has been done to the best of our technical ability. _____________________________________________ to be removed randall5050us@yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 12: 0:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D387B37B416; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:00:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05JsM622512; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:54:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phantom) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:54:22 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200201051954.g05JsM622512@freefall.freebsd.org> To: willythemax@yahoo.it, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/32339: Sending italian translation for new users article Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Sending italian translation for new users article State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Sat Jan 5 11:53:25 PST 2002 State-Changed-Why: Committed. Thanks! http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=32339 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 12:46:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from columbus.cris.net (columbus.cris.net [212.110.128.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B619037B41A for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:46:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ark.cris.net (ns2.cris.net [212.110.128.68]) by columbus.cris.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27947; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 22:46:38 +0200 (EET) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by ark.cris.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g05Kk8n09435; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 22:46:08 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 22:46:08 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin To: Alessandro de Manzano Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: ISO8859-15 docs (was: Re: cvs commit: doc Makefile) Message-ID: <20020105224608.A9054@ark.cris.net> References: <200201051957.g05JvUB22861@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020105212035.A33718@libero.sunshine.ale> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20020105212035.A33718@libero.sunshine.ale>; from ale@unixmania.net on Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 09:20:35PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, [redirected to -doc] On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 09:20:35PM +0100, Alessandro de Manzano wrote: > > Add it_IT.ISO8859-1 to list of SUBDIRS. Yay! > > excuse me, but now, maybe, the correct codepage should be ISO8859-15 > for most of the European countries (like Italy) because of the Euro > currency symbol present in -15 and not in -1.. I think you right. There're two possible options: 1. Repo-copy all european countries' docs to ISO8859-15 2. Add special infrastructure to build ISO8859-1 docs as ISO8859-15. It should look like: it_IT.ISO8859-15/ share/ sgml/ -- stores ISO8859-15 specific sgml options articles/ new-users/ diskless-x/ ... books/ handbook/ ... Each directory under artciles/ and books/ should contain Makefile which will build appropriate document from ISO8859-1 directory with ISO8859-15 specific settings. Thoughts ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 13: 0:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D85BA37B41C for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05L01i35241; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060DC37B4CF for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05KoFn34268; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:50:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200201052050.g05KoFn34268@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:50:15 -0800 (PST) From: Craig Reyenga To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/33582: i386 Release notes make no mention of AMD/Cyrix Processor support Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33582 >Category: docs >Synopsis: i386 Release notes make no mention of AMD/Cyrix Processor support >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jan 05 13:00:01 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Craig Reyenga >Release: 4.4-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: N/A >Description: In section 2 of the i386 release notes, it states: "FreeBSD for the i386 currently runs on a wide variety of ISA, VLB, EISA, MCA and PCI bus based PC's, ranging from 386sx to Pentium 4 class machines (though the 386sx is not recommended)." There is no mention of support for any AMD or Cyrix processor, even though most, if not all are supported by FreeBSD. This is a big deal becuase people ask about AMD processor support all of the time on IRC. >How-To-Repeat: Using your favourite browser, head to: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.4R/hardware-i386.html and read section 2. >Fix: Make mention of processor support from all vendors, not just Intel. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 13:39:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.libero.it (smtp3.libero.it [193.70.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F3B37B402 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:39:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from parkinson.it (151.24.18.100) by smtp3.libero.it (6.0.032) id 3BD43E2501AF8C02 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 22:39:37 +0100 Message-ID: <3C377293.871FE509@parkinson.it> Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 22:39:31 +0100 From: Gianluca Sordiglioni X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: it, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISO8859-15 docs (was: Re: cvs commit: doc Makefile) References: <200201051957.g05JvUB22861@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020105212035.A33718@libero.sunshine.ale> <20020105224608.A9054@ark.cris.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexey Zelkin wrote: > > hi, > > [redirected to -doc] > > On Sat, Jan 05, 2002 at 09:20:35PM +0100, Alessandro de Manzano wrote: > > > > Add it_IT.ISO8859-1 to list of SUBDIRS. Yay! > > > > excuse me, but now, maybe, the correct codepage should be ISO8859-15 > > for most of the European countries (like Italy) because of the Euro > > currency symbol present in -15 and not in -1.. > > I think you right. > > There're two possible options: > > 1. Repo-copy all european countries' docs to ISO8859-15 > 2. Add special infrastructure to build ISO8859-1 docs as ISO8859-15. > It should look like: > > it_IT.ISO8859-15/ > share/ > sgml/ -- stores ISO8859-15 specific sgml options > articles/ > new-users/ > diskless-x/ > ... > books/ > handbook/ > ... I wonder if it_IT.ISO8859-15 is correct, because I created my dir using it_IT.ISO_8859-15, according to existing directory names standard. Then, it_IT.ISO8859-15 was committed. By the way, the italian-translated handbook is ready to be committed, but I haven't see any action: I was in contact whith asmodai, but he ressigned his committer's privileges. If someone can download the sources and include them in the doc tree, it would be nice (Nik?). They are available from my homepage: http://www.gufi.org/~inzet/it_IT.ISO_8859-1.tar.gz Thank you, Gianluca -- Gruppo Utenti FreeBSD Italia (GUFI) http://www.gufi.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 14:40:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27D537B41B for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05Me0V59072; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:40:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB51937B402 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from 12-225-156-18.client.attbi.com ([12.225.156.18]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020105223214.MBNH20395.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@12-225-156-18.client.attbi.com> for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 22:32:14 +0000 Received: (from kuma@localhost) by 12-225-156-18.client.attbi.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05MXMu14058; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:33:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuma) Message-Id: <200201052233.g05MXMu14058@12-225-156-18.client.attbi.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 14:33:22 -0800 (PST) From: Norihiro Kumagai Reply-To: Norihiro Kumagai To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/33585: Possible Errata in ntp.conf.5 manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33585 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Possible Errata in ntp.conf.5 manpage >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jan 05 14:40:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Norihiro Kumagai >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386 >Organization: FreeBSD Japanese Manual Translation Project (jpman) >Environment: System: FreeBSD c9795-a 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #16: Sun Nov 4 13:05:43 PST 2001 kuma@c9795-a.vncvr1.wa.home.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/C9795A i386 src/usr.sbin/ntp/doc/ntp.conf.5 revision 1.2.2.3 2001/12/21 17:42:33 >Description: Some posible errata what I found in my revising Japamese manpages. Please review the following patch file. I am afraid because of my poor and limited English understanding, some of my correction might be incorrect. Please do not hesitate to refise some (or all) of my prosing correcsion. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- ntp.conf-cur.5 Sat Dec 29 01:30:09 2001 +++ ntp.conf-mod.5 Sat Jan 5 14:21:07 2002 @@ -172,7 +172,8 @@ broadcast messages go only to the interface associated with the subnet specified, but multicast messages go to all interfaces. In broadcast mode the local server sends periodic broadcast -messages to a client population at the address +messages to a client population at the +.Ic address specified, which is usually the broadcast address on (one of) the local network(s) or a multicast address assigned to NTP. The IANA @@ -251,7 +252,7 @@ initial synchronization acquisition with the .Ic server command and s addresses and when -.Nm +.Xr ntpd 8 is started with the .Fl q @@ -323,7 +324,7 @@ This command enables reception of manycast client messages to the multicast group address(es) (type m) specified. At least one -address is required, but The NTP multicast address 224.0.1.1 +address is required, but the NTP multicast address 224.0.1.1 assigned by the IANA should NOT be used, unless specific means are taken to limit the span of the reply and avoid a possibly massive implosion at the original sender. @@ -567,8 +568,7 @@ needed to authenticate some remote configuration commands used by the .Xr ntpdc 8 , -.Xr ntpq 8 , -.Xr ntpdc 8 +.Xr ntpq 8 utilities. The .Pa ntpkey @@ -876,7 +876,7 @@ integers with values from 1 to 65,534. .El .Sh Monitoring Support -.Xr ntpd 8 +.Xr ntpd 8 includes a comprehensive monitoring facility suitable for continuous, long term recording of server and client timekeeping performance. @@ -952,7 +952,8 @@ The first two fields show the date (Modified Julian Day) and time (seconds and fraction past UTC midnight). The next field shows -the clock address in dotted-quad notation, The final field shows +the clock address in dotted-quad notation. +The final field shows the last timecode received from the clock in decoded ASCII format, where meaningful. In some clock drivers a good deal of additional @@ -974,7 +975,8 @@ time (seconds and fraction past UTC midnight). The next two fields show the remote peer or clock address followed by the local address -in dotted-quad notation, The final four fields show the originate, +in dotted-quad notation. +The final four fields show the originate, receive, transmit and final NTP timestamps in order. The timestamp values are as received and before processing by the various data @@ -1011,7 +1013,7 @@ of a file set that are currently unused are available for administrational operations without the risk of disturbing the operation of -.Xr ntpd 8 . +.Xr ntpd 8 . (Most important: they can be removed to free space for new data produced.) Note that this command can be sent from the @@ -1217,7 +1219,7 @@ If the .Cm kod flag is set and either service is denied or the client -limit is exceeded, the server it returns the packet and sets the +limit is exceeded, the server returns the packet and sets the leap bits unsynchronized, stratum zero and the ASCII string "DENY" in the reference source identifier field. If the @@ -1518,7 +1520,7 @@ .Cm refid and .Cm stratum -options control can be used to +options can be used to override the defaults for the device. There are two optional device-dependent time offsets and four flags that can be included @@ -1785,7 +1787,7 @@ support for this routine is detected automatically when the NTP daemon is compiled, so it is not necessary for the user to worry about this flag. -It flag is provided primarily so that this support +It is provided primarily so that this support can be disabled during kernel development. The default for this flag is >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 15:10: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E5C37B404 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05NA0n67070; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:10:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C804237B417 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from 12-225-156-18.client.attbi.com ([12.225.156.18]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020105230710.SJAE24940.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@12-225-156-18.client.attbi.com> for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 23:07:10 +0000 Received: (from kuma@localhost) by 12-225-156-18.client.attbi.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05N8IC14249; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:08:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kuma) Message-Id: <200201052308.g05N8IC14249@12-225-156-18.client.attbi.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:08:18 -0800 (PST) From: Norihiro Kumagai Reply-To: Norihiro Kumagai To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/33586: An errata in ntp.keys.5 manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33586 >Category: docs >Synopsis: An errata in ntp.keys.5 manpage >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jan 05 15:10:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Norihiro Kumagai >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE i386 >Organization: FreeBSD Japanese Manual Translation Project (jpman) >Environment: System: FreeBSD c9795-a 4.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #16: Sun Nov 4 13:05:43 PST 2001 kuma@c9795-a.vncvr1.wa.home.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/C9795A i386 src/usr.sbin/ntp/doc/ntp.keys.5 revision 1.2.2.2 2001/12/21 17:42:33 >Description: An errata. Please review the attached diff file. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- ntp.keys-cur.5 Tue Jan 1 01:27:50 2002 +++ ntp.keys-mod.5 Sat Jan 5 15:00:08 2002 @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ .Pp The .Ar key -may be given in one of three different formats, +may be given in one of four different formats, controlled by the .Ar type character. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 15:40: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E230F37B405 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g05Ne0a69955; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:40:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1597037B405 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 15:38:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 0) id A5F2D2AE; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 23:38:40 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <20020105233840.A5F2D2AE@tao.org.uk> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 23:38:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Joe Karthauser Reply-To: Joe Karthauser To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/33589: Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 33589 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Patch to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jan 05 15:40:00 PST 2002 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Joe Karthauser >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD genius.tao.org.uk 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #71: Wed Jan 2 19:47:25 GMT 2002 joe@genius.tao.org.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENIUS i386 >Description: Sometimes it's useful to be able to post process the tex file before a pdf or ps, etc, is made from it. This patch defines a new variable TEX_POSTPROCESS, in which you can define the name of a filter command that can be used to process the tex file if required. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: doc.docbook.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.61 diff -u -r1.61 doc.docbook.mk --- doc.docbook.mk 2 Jan 2002 01:10:37 -0000 1.61 +++ doc.docbook.mk 5 Jan 2002 23:35:51 -0000 @@ -90,6 +90,10 @@ # a book. This option may be an order of magnitude more # CPU intensive than the default build. # +# TEX_POSTPROCESS If defined, then the command contained in this variable +# is evoked as a filter on the tex file produced +# giving the caller a chance to post-process the +# tex file before further use of it. # # Documents should use the += format to access these. @@ -408,6 +412,10 @@ ${DOC}.tex: ${SRCS} ${LOCAL_IMAGES_EPS} ${INDEX_SGML} ${PRINT_INDEX} ${JADE} -V tex-backend ${PRINTOPTS} \ ${JADEOPTS} -t tex -o ${.TARGET} ${MASTERDOC} +.if defined(TEX_POSTPROCESS) + ${TEX_POSTPROCESS} < ${DOC}.tex > ${DOC}.tmp + mv ${DOC}.tmp ${DOC}.tex +.endif ${DOC}.tex-ps: ${DOC}.tex ${LN} -f ${.ALLSRC} ${.TARGET} @@ -416,6 +424,10 @@ ${CP} -p ${PDFTEX_DEF} ${.TARGET} ${JADE} -V tex-backend ${PRINTOPTS} -ioutput.print.pdf \ ${JADEOPTS} -t tex -o /dev/stdout ${MASTERDOC} >> ${.TARGET} +.if defined(TEX_POSTPROCESS) + ${TEX_POSTPROCESS} < ${DOC}.tex-pdf > ${DOC}.tmp + mv ${DOC}.tmp ${DOC}.tex-pdf +.endif ${DOC}.dvi: ${DOC}.tex ${LOCAL_IMAGES_EPS} @${ECHO} "==> TeX pass 1/3" >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 5 19: 1:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.mem.interq.net (smtp01.mem.interq.net [210.157.1.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153CB37B416 for ; Sat, 5 Jan 2002 19:01:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from 21 ([211.99.167.204]) by smtp01.mem.interq.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA27948 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 12:01:17 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200201060301.MAA27948@smtp01.mem.interq.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2002 12:01:46 +0900 Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJU0lQyVIJTclZyVDJVclRiVKJXMlSEpnPTgbKEI=?= From: Emise To: Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $B%$%s%?!<%M%C%H$,(B24$B;~4V$*6b$r2T$0!*(B $B3Z$7$_$J$,$iBg@.8y$bL4$8$c$J$$!#(B %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% $B%$%s%?!<%M%C%H%7%g%C%W%F%J%s%HJg=8(B %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% $B$*@57n4|4V8BDj2A3J(B 2001$BG/(B12$B7n(B30$B!<(B2002$BG/(B1$B7n(B10$BF|(B $B?=9~$_$rD:$$$?J}$OG/4V;HMQNA(B3$BK|1_$N=j(B1$BK|(B5$B@i1_$N$4Ds6!CW$7$^$9!#(B $B?=9~$@$1$G%7%g%C%W40@.!*(B $BJ]>Z6b!&8"Mx6b!&%m%$%d%j%F%#ITMW(B $B%$%s%?!<%M%C%HCN<1MW$j$^$;$s(B $B%5!<%P!<%l%s%?%k!&#H#P:n@.$OMW$j$^$;$s!#(B $B>/$J$$%j%9%/$G<+J,$N#E%7%g%C%W$r;}$A(B $B$*?=$79~$_8e!"$9$0$KMxMQ$G$-$k(B $B$47@Ls8e$K#H#P%"%I%l%9!"4IM}&IJEPO?$dJQ99$OA4$F%V%i%&%6>e$G9T$($^$9!#(B $B%$%s%?!<%M%C%H%7%g%C%W$KI,MW$J5!G=$,4^$^$l$^$9!#(B $B%i%s%K%s%0%3%9%H$NIiC4$r7Z8:$$$?$7$^$9!#(B $B%*%j%8%J%k$N%Z!<%8$d%"%$%3%s$K$bAH$_9g$o$;2DG=!#(B $B%P%j%(!<%7%g%sK-$+$J%7%g%C%W$,:n@.$G$-$^$9!#(B $B>&IJEPO??t$O:GBgL5@)8B(B 1$B>&IJ$K$D$-:GBg(B3$BKg$^$G>&IJ2hA|$r\$7$/J@

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