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Date:      Mon, 1 Mar 1999 04:04:25 +0100
From:      Harold Gutch <logix@foobar.franken.de>
To:        "Robert A. Bruce" <rab@pike.cdrom.com>, Dave Yost <Dave@Yost.com>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The Linux PR firestorm disaster (w.r.t. FreeBSD)
Message-ID:  <19990301040425.B19859@foobar.franken.de>
In-Reply-To: <199903010058.QAA24952@pike.cdrom.com>; from Robert A. Bruce on Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 04:58:42PM -0800
References:  <v04104408b2fc8ab8acfc@[205.219.69.138]> <199903010058.QAA24952@pike.cdrom.com>

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On Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 04:58:42PM -0800, Robert A. Bruce wrote:
> If I was trying to come up with the opposite list (areas where Linux
> beats FreeBSD) the job would be much easier:
> 
> 1.  Linux runs on way more platforms (sparc, powerpc, mips,... heck it
>     even runs on a PalmPilot).
> 
I followed an IRC conversation with a couple of people a few days
ago on exactly this topic - one of the conclusions was that a
UNIX(-clone) for the PalmPilot did not make much sense, as it's
CPU for example did not have any memory protection - at least not
a really useful one.
I am no expert on this subject, and the above is only one of the
things I just remember somehow, perhaps somebody with a more
technical insight can say more on this topic :).

All that I'm trying to say with this is that even if somebody
wrote/ported/whatever something to run on the PalmPilot which
*looks* similar to Linux or any other UNIX/UNIX-clone, it
probably is _far_ away from "the real thing".

Linux does run on more platforms that FreeBSD (currently ? :) )
does, but you can always use NetBSD on other architectures if you
want - the only thing I can report on this from my own experience
is that we wanted to install a free UNIX(-clone, whatever) on 2
SUN4s and were able to install NetBSD without too much of a
problem (at least after setting up the netboot-stuff etc. which I
hadn't ever done before) and the machine was up and running
without the slightest problems until one of the harddisks failed,
whileas Linux panicd already when booting over the net.

> 5.  Linux has a lot more native commercial applications.
> 
Which run faster under FreeBSD's Linux-emulation :).

In fact, I today heard of a guy, who doesn't have much
UNIX-knowledge, but one thing he did notice after installing
Linux over his FreeBSD-installation was that in his opinion the
system became a lot less responsive than it had been before.

This indeed can be called a major plus for FreeBSD, a friend and
me even started joking saying we'd start a consulting company
which would help people "speed up their Linux applications"
[... by installing FreeBSD and then running the applications
under the Linux-Emulation ;) ].

> So if you can send me a list of areas where FreeBSD beats Linux,
> I would greatly appreciate it.  If you can back up any claims
> of better performance/reliability with published reports or
> repeatable benchmarks, that would be great.  But I am happy to
> take anecdotes too.  The chart is pretty sparse right now, so
> I am not picky.
> 

bye,
  Harold

-- 
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