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Date:      Thu, 11 Sep 1997 11:23:11 -0500 (CDT)
From:      "Lee Crites (AEI)" <leec@adam.adonai.net>
To:        Wes Peters <softweyr@xmission.com>
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Do you have some neat configuration files?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.970911111410.22949A-100000@adam.adonai.net>
In-Reply-To: <199709110645.AAA25036@obie.softweyr.ml.org>

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On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Wes Peters wrote:
=>Lee Crites writes:
=> > So far, from my experience only, most people just want to *use*
=> > the system.
=>
=>You're close, but the distinction is important.  *Everyone* begins to
=>customize their system eventually, but they want it to "just work"
=>straight out of the box.  Microsoft has this covered fairly well; you

This is an important point, and yes, I didn't make that clear of
a distinction on it.

=>install Win95 and it actually can run an application.  It's when you
=>attempt to customize it to work the way you want to that it begins to
=>chafe.

"chafe?"  Mine died a sad and ignominious death...  (of course
a big part of that might be the Packard Bell PC I have Microsnot
Windoze 95 attempting to run on)

=>XFree86 is particularly bad about this, but getting better.  Requiring
=>people to learn what kind of graphics card they have before downloading
=>just won't work; you need to provide some reasonable minimum system and

This is exactly why I *don't* have X running on my server.  It
started asking me questions which I had no clue about.  I'm
sitting there, with the hardware documentation in hand, mind you,
and could not answer a bunch of the questions.  Questions which I
had never been asked about before or since. So when I
reinstalled, X was not a part of it. 

=>then let them "upgrade" or "enhance" it.  A generic SVGA server at
=>1024x768x8bpp would probably fit this requirement nicely these days.

Perhaps even a couple of options to select from.  I'd love the
1024x768 resolution, but some of my users cannot handle the small
icons and such.

=>I think this would have to be a centerpiece of any "commercialized" or
=>"productized" FreeBSD aimed at the Win95, or even WinNT, crowd.

I agree.  But since I'm not one of the development types, I can't
yell too loudly.  With everything said and done, I am as happy
with my fbsd system as I have been with *any* system I have ever
had.  My personal  wish-list isn't that terribly long.

Lee




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