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Date:      Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:12:22 +0200
From:      Brad Knowles <brad.knowles@skynet.be>
To:        Nicolas Rachinsky <list@rachinsky.de>, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: chapter 11 Re: FreeBSD 4.4 upcoming release/timetabling/mirroring
Message-ID:  <p0510033db7d0cf82266a@[194.78.144.27]>
In-Reply-To: <20010921112018.B1226@pc5.abc>
References:  <20010420111439.Q5017@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <Pine.OSF.4.20.0109101621390.29054-100000@azure.dstc.edu.au> <20010910093357K.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010921112018.B1226@pc5.abc>

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At 11:20 AM +0200 9/21/01, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote:

>>  I must have missed the attached rant from Will, but let me first just
>>  say this: Forget about Lightning Internet - they're chapter 11 and out
>>  of the picture.  ftp.freesoftware.com, RIP.
>
>  Is it an commonly used idiom? Where does it come from?

	The term "Chapter 11" refers to a particular section of US 
bankruptcy code.  The idea is that the company is able to continue to 
operate relatively normally, with protection from all its creditors 
while it seeks to arrange suitable terms for refinancing all of its 
loans, etc....

	If they fail to make suitable arrangements in the specified time, 
then the company is sent to liquidators who sell off all the various 
assets and try to get as much money for them as they can.  What money 
is obtained from the sales of the assets then gets paid out to the 
creditors, usually for just a small fraction of what the real 
monetary liability (i.e., "for pennies on the dollar").


	Therefore, if you are a company in a business where you are 
likely to be a creditor, you probably want to make arrangements with 
your customers so that you are given preferential treatment whenever 
it comes to Chapter 11 proceedings, liquidation, etc....

	This way if they go bankrupt, you still have a decent chance of 
being able to recover all or most of the money they owe you -- of 
course, doing so really screws the other creditors, so knowing this 
all creditors will try to ensure that they are the ones at the front 
of the line, as opposed to anyone else.


	Many people and companies manage to come out of Chapter 11 
bankruptcy just fine, but many also fail permanently.  Being in 
"Chapter 11" is not necessarily a guaranteed death knoll, but it is 
certainly one of the first bars of what is likely to become your 
requiem.

-- 
Brad Knowles, <brad.knowles@skynet.be>

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