From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 30 18:03:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBA216A41A for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.schuh@gmail.com) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A236A13C480 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.schuh@gmail.com) Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i29so516375wxd for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:03:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=uDv2+Tq3d1kk7zb8+ZSUfs0WxKHx2vwEEY06n6+M/5cBqdVRvsq+6VFOvq21kQwWMeRT/MEDeMjaJIYhLezD2qPT+ZOqNPHvmOplD/Ituhm0fzWbo17fSztTNL66IhGQnBxYUUv7rU7/2YsrpSDnaUsxhqp+UbZTl097UCy1EuM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RbFXuZtZFJDw3e0faiotWccJDtcgc1DLiB0eWdEzr3r8CXdr05Q8lmQsw4/vFD6/S0wrF6tChu6J5VANt1dzymuYdZyAjbt7kdm7UUlk5soLHAzY8wslCGPdC5xKSqpy3QH3dVb+D19sH4UlNFrXjFsr+Z0W6qNWakveKCmYZU4= Received: by 10.90.113.18 with SMTP id l18mr928732agc.1188497022547; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.63.20 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1dbad3150708301103x5b4423cra46d22c4afd802d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:03:42 +0200 From: "Michael Schuh" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <46D6F1CD.30805@ccstores.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1dbad3150708291826y5ed57502l5915aba62f71f62c@mail.gmail.com> <46D6F1CD.30805@ccstores.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: ISP Webfrontends for Management X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:03:54 -0000 Hi @list, (i would answer to the list, not to the persons only) First thanks for the suggestions. Now my personal opinions: I like solutions that ar small, smart and easy to administrate/update. Such as syscp. But syscp doesn't have all the functionality that i like. dtc looks very good, but have tons of dependencies that are not really needed. raqdevil shold be a good solution if it get installed right, but it doesn't in a jail. webin is overloaded, while the customer from me doesn't like a fully system management, and in the last twelve years of my experiences with linux/freebsd i have many many boxes seen that have been cracked and misused as mailgateways/streamingservers or public ftpservers from crackers. because the updates from webin are not all times maked fast enough. qmail is good but for me it is a little bit to complex to handle, i prefer combinations such as named(bind9)/postfix/sa/dspam/cyrus-imap(also with murder-config) or courie= r or dovecot for small enviroments. for Databases i like to prefer postgresql before mysql and apache or lightttpd. And that are the components that i have to manage over a single webfrontend= . So that at this moment syscp is the only one that can handle this and only this, not more and not less, but it lacks of support for sa/dspam. ok dspam brings his own webfrontend but sa not and sa is very complex to configure while it has tons of features......so i think about it to leav= e it out from the box and use only dspam..... the webfrontends for cyrus are not really good IMHO thanks for your suggestions regards michael Michael Schuh wrote: > > Hi @list, > > > > i search a good/reliable/stable possibility to manage > > Domains/users/mailaccounts/webspace/servers etc. > > per Http... > > > > I have searched throug google and the ports-tree and the only > > two frontends that i have found are sysutils/syscp and www/raqdevil. > > > > syscp shows me very clear and a little bit poor but stable and mature > enough > > to use it. > > > > raqdevil is horridble to install clean and runnable in a jail, > > and it uses originally code from SUN Microsystems Cobalt-Raq's, > > so that it seems to me a little bit difficult to use it..... > > > > Can anyone point me to other frontends ( preferred supported through th= e > > ports-tree), > > and/or to an frontend to cfengine ( if it gave one)? > > > > Thanks for all > > > > regards > > > > michael > > --=20 =3D=3D=3D m i c h a e l - s c h u h . n e t =3D=3D=3D Michael Schuh Preu=DFenstr. 13 66111 Saarbr=FCcken phone: 0681/8319664 mobil: 0177/9738644 @: m i c h a e l . s c h u h @ g m a i l . c o m =3D=3D=3D Ust-ID: DE251072318 =3D=3D=3D