From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 15 15:47:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from caligula.anu.edu.au (caligula.anu.edu.au [150.203.224.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBA537B405 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from avalon@localhost) by caligula.anu.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA15810; Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:47:10 +1000 (EST) From: Darren Reed Message-Id: <200204152247.IAA15810@caligula.anu.edu.au> Subject: Re: who's been smoking crack in freebsd land now ? To: RSchilling@affiliatedhealth.org (Schilling, Richard) Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:47:10 +1000 (Australia/ACT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org ('stable@freebsd.org'), avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au ('avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au') In-Reply-To: <51FCCCF0C130D211BE550008C724149E01165B05@mail1.affiliatedhealth.org> from "Schilling, Richard" at Apr 15, 2002 03:41:45 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In some mail from Schilling, Richard, sie said: > > > From: Darren Reed [mailto:avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au] > > > > No, you just piss people off when they have to deal with > > rather arbitrary > > fucking changes. It's not like the first time I've had to > > deal with crap > > like this in FreeBSD so I may as well get used to it, I guess. > > There are few things more irritating than a wayword developer wanna-be who > expects every UNIX implementation to be the same. FreeBSD is one of the > most stable platforms, so once you finally get your wits about you and learn > to study code, you won't see many surprises at all. There's SUSv* for that. As for "stability"...well, that's not the same as quality, is it ? There seems to be an awful big rush to make 4.6 for some reason... > > You should be able to compile a LKM without any compile > > errors, shouldn't > > you ? You know, an LKM that gets compiled without config'ing > > a kernel ? > > Heck, you shouldn't even need kernel source installed to > > compile & use an > > LKM. I mean isn't that the point of LKM's or has that been > > forgotten too ? > > In case you didn't notice, the kernel usually compiles just fine without an > error. It does? I recall once mentioning the problem of compile warnings only to be told that FreeBSD didn't care about them. ie compiling with -Werror would not result in a built kernel. > #ifdef _KERNEL > #warning "Don't #include ioctl.h in the FRIGGING KERNEL. Include > xxxio.h instead." // emphasis mine > #endif Problem is, xxxio.h doesn't exist unless you have config'd a kernel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message