From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 22 16:41:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908D116A404 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA1413C457 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m1MGau7D073433; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:36:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id m1MGasA0073432; Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:36:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:36:54 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jonathan McKeown Message-ID: <20080222163654.GB73248@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20080219114803.V2675@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <47BDDFC2.20708@mykitchentable.net> <200802221115.00835.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200802221115.00835.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Linux distro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:41:09 -0000 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:15:00AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Thursday 21 February 2008 23:03, D G Teed wrote: > > > For example, no where in this have I heard a peep about backup > > software. Anyone serious about IT is serious about backup. Yet there > > is no support for EMC (Legato) Networker in FreeBSD, and this is why > > our organization is migrating away from this FreeBSD. > > Petty quibble: I suspect that you mean ``there is no support for FreeBSD in > EMC Networker'' rather than the other way round. Picking a backup solution > that can't back up some of your servers, and opting to fix the problem by > getting rid of the servers, seems to me to be doing things the wrong way > round - irrespective of which OS you're forcing yourself to get rid of. > > Of course, EMC Networker may be so much better than any other backup > solution as to justify the work involved in moving working services > to a different platform - I don't know Networker so I can't really > comment, although I agree with most of what you said about making > sure you pick a platform which supports what you're trying to do. > I say most because my own feeling as a sysadmin is that you must > have a very good reason to run more than the bare minimum range > of operating systems you can - which is an argument for moving > away from some platforms if you're already running several. I > am in the process of moving from multiple platforms, ranging > from Windows NT4, through e-smith (server-in-a-box based on > Red Hat), Debian, and FreeBSD, from 4.8 up to date. We are > aiming to end up with a bunch of FreeBSD boxes, all using > a standard build from a central buildserver, plus one or > two boxes running Windows Server 2003 supporting users, > who are all running Windows desktops and applications, > including apps which run on the server, with clients > connecting over the network. It's taken a while but > every time we get rid of an old box my workload in > supporting the rest of the system drops a little. > Note: I'm not saying everyone should standardise > on FreeBSD - that's just what I'm most familiar > with at the moment, and when I started to move > things round we had more FreeBSD servers than > anything else, so it made sense to pick that > and bring the rest into line, where we were > able to, especially because the other OSes > were mainly running on hardware which was > due for replacement soon anyway, so that > the migration could be seen as being in > the ordinary course of maintenance and > not extra load on busy systems staff. > > (Sorry: when I realised I'd started > my reply with a few lines which by > accident were tapering off at the > ends I couldn't resist trying to > see how long I could keep it up. > It's foolish, I know, but it is > a fun exercise in picking your > words carefully and yet still > trying to make sense. If you > aren't reading with a fixed > width font, you may not be > getting the effect of the > layout anyway: so if you > can't see it, I'm sorry > for taking up yet more > of your time, just to > play about with line > lengths and make up > pretty patterns in > your mail reader. > I'll stop now or > at least once I > can taper down > to the length > of the given > name I sign > off with). > > Jonathan > (Whew!) I'm impressed. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"