From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 10 13:25:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01380 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:25:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cam.grad.kiev.ua (grad-UTC-28k8.ukrtel.net [195.5.25.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00977; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 13:23:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA) Received: from Shevchenko.Kiev.UA (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cam.grad.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA29821; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:20:40 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <352E7F01.1B9C39BC@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:20:25 +0300 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: rssh@grad.kiev.ua Organization: GlavAPU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Mayo CC: rssh@grad.kiev.ua, kris@airnet.net, David Shanes , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <007501bd64a4$85095f40$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> <352E61A7.570D84C@ninbox.ml.org> <19980410150331.16376@vmunix.com> <352E76F7.1B2D773D@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA> <19980410160851.15337@vmunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Mayo wrote: > O > > ? 3. And for pity, actual programming on C++ now is better do on > ? Linux or SCO than on FreeBSD. > ? for example, for Linux exists 3 or 2 commercical C++ compilers, > ? for FreeBSD --- none. > > Hmm. Which compilers are you referring to? And how many people are > actually using commercial compilers under Linux? > 1. kai (http://www.kai.com) 2. comeaucomputing (http://www.comeaucomputing.com) 3. I'm not remember, but was. How many users: Of course, I don't know. But problem not in this, but in existense. I now buy in comeaucomputing compiler for SCO, and I was have tolk with them about FreeBSD platform. I'm interesting in cooperating from somebody of FreeBSD users in creating FreeBSD version of Comeau C++. > ? > ? all CORBA ports in ports collection are very old. > ? > ? Creating bazzar-style ports collection can help a little in > ? this situation. > > I disagree. Our port collection is amazing. It makes getting programs > for FreeBSD very straight-forward and efficient. The problem is that > not all of the ports are always completely up to date - but this has > nothing to do with "cathedral vs. bazaar". It simply has to do with the > free time of the volunteers. > Free time of volunteers is slowing factor. We can have --FreeBSD-ports collection and bazzar-style set of links for FreeBSD applications. Becouse attempt to track *all* software which run on FreeBSD is in principle impossible. More: I think that we *must* have the bazzar style set of links. > -Mark > > ? > ? -- > ? > ? @= > ? //RSSH mailto:Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA > ? > ? > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mark Mayo mark@vmunix.com > RingZero Comp. http://www.vmunix.com/mark > > finger mark@vmunix.com for my PGP key and GCS code > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > "The problem is how do you build tools that understand your programs > at a deeper semantic level." - James Gosling -- @= //RSSH mailto:Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message