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Date:      Wed, 22 Feb 2017 08:07:33 +0100
From:      Joel Dahl <joel@vnode.se>
To:        Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Eric Badger <badger@FreeBSD.org>, Bartek Rutkowski <robak@FreeBSD.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r314036 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts
Message-ID:  <20170222070733.GA29010@ymer.vnode.se>
In-Reply-To: <20170221144002.GA87822@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201702210937.v1L9bY6V093836@repo.freebsd.org> <28a4cf5e-2edd-3e30-9ecd-817f886e9ea3@FreeBSD.org> <20170221144002.GA87822@FreeBSD.org>

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On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 02:40:02PM +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 08:34:29AM -0600, Eric Badger wrote:
> > Thanks for working on making it easier to harden FreeBSD. While
> > defaulting some of these options to "on" seem pretty harmless (e.g.
> > random_pid), others are likely to cause confusion for new and
> > experienced users alike (e.g. proc_debug. I've never used that option
> > before, so I gave it a try. It simply causes gdb to hang when attempting
> > to start a process, with no obvious indication of why).
> 
> I concur.  In fact, harmless knobs should probably be turned on by default
> in FreeBSD itself (i.e., without any "hardening" help from the installer),
> while more intrusive ones should be opt-in, not opt-out.

I agree. Can we back this out and discuss it on current@?

-- 
Joel



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