From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 16 09:36:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14590 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cerberus.partsnow.com (gatekeeper.partsnow.com [207.155.26.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14584 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bin@localhost) by cerberus.partsnow.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id FAA10687; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 05:34:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cerberus.partsnow.com: bin set sender to using -f Received: from pcconsole(192.168.100.254) by cerberus.partsnow.com via smap (V2.0) id xma010685; Sun, 15 Jun 97 05:34:21 -0700 Message-ID: <33A56B36.1582@PartsNow.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:35:02 -0700 From: Don Wilde Organization: Soligen, Incorporated X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E -NOV-NOV (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: acosta@intergate.bc.ca CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Simplicity vs. POWER Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Tony - Judging from the amount of shouting going on, I think you deserve a politer answer. First, all instructions ARE clearly available on the www.freebsd.org website. But second, as to why FreeBSD does not (and probably will never) fall out of the box onto your computer, this is because its developers are more concerned with adding *power* to it, and fixing things to work even better. You know, I just bought a copy of Win3.1 for my company, and it still has all the original bugs in it???!!!! Micros**t doesn't even BOTHER to tell you their crap needs work. Have you been told to download the two "service packs" to fix your W95 yet? It's only on the SURFACE that their stuff is easier to use. Have you tried programming for their GUI yet? I'll clue you in, it's PAINFUL! When you become proficient in FreeBSD, if you still feel the way you do, I would suggest that you contribute some scripts to the FreeBSD distribution which automate some more of the installation details. Your contribution would be welcomed, there's always more to do! Third, is it worth it? YESYESYES! The world needs a free antidote to Micros**t and all the rest, source code included. We support FreeBSD.org and fsf.org with our code and our support and our refusal to pay for bloated, bug-ridden software and overblown marketing. You will find that your computer has more (free) software on it, works better, and can do more with FreeBSD. It may take you three or four times to configure it right, but I will put that up against my ugly experiences with W95 and NT and Novell any day. I prefer configurability and source code and instant support from these lists to cattle-prod stupidity and the right to fork over my money for somebody else's bugs. I support my company's computer needs with all of the above operating systems, plus HP-UX and NT as well. All of my CRITICAL systems (except our CAD stations) run FreeBSD. I do have Novell and W3.1 as many of my clients, but I offer them the choice of FreeBSD + X + fvwm instead of their Windoze PC's, and more and more of them are jumping. These, mind you, are PC users who grew up on Micros**t, but Applix Office reads all Micros**t files, and it works well. I'm working on replacing Nov(h)ell with NFS-mounted FreeBSD, but the problem is that NFS for PC's is not free. It'll take me a while, but I'll get there eventually. If I can get all my clients to jump, I'll be home free! Whew! Well, I guess I did end up shouting, but I feel strongly about this. Life without Micro**t would be nice... -- oooOOO O O O o * * * * * * o ___ _________ _________ ________ _________ _________ ___==_ V_=_=_DW ===--- Don Wilde [don@PartsNow.com] [http://www.PartsNow.com ] /oo0000oo-oo--oo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-ooo--ooo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-oo--oo