From owner-freebsd-chat Mon May 27 13: 7:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from foo31-146.visit.se (foo31-146.visit.se [62.119.31.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B52637B400 for ; Mon, 27 May 2002 13:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by foo31-146.visit.se (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C480D6AB1F; Mon, 27 May 2002 22:07:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 22:07:08 +0200 From: Martin Karlsson To: Terry Lambert Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual language (was: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha clock.c) Message-ID: <20020527200708.GB441@foo31-146.visit.se> Mail-Followup-To: Martin Karlsson , Terry Lambert , chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020522050350.GA266@lpt.ens.fr> <20020523124604.Z45715@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020523061551.GA237@lpt.ens.fr> <20020523155541.H230@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020523063222.GA470@lpt.ens.fr> <20020525075741.GC630@foo31-146.visit.se> <20020525175337.F84264@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020526094106.GA345@foo31-146.visit.se> <3CF15CAD.C05C6BEE@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3CF15CAD.C05C6BEE@mindspring.com> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5970 BE22 2C33 4D8F 53FD 7E34 66FF 9332 9C92 4660 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Terry Lambert [2002-05-26 15.07 -0700]: [...snipped good points...] > Frankly, most people in the U.S. simply can't understand the ethnic > based conflicts in various parts of the world. From the general > population's point of view, it's impossible to tell an ethnic Serb > from an ethnic Croat, unless one of them stands up at a podium and > yells "_I_ am an _ethnic Serb_!". =20 I can't (and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this) understand how one can _not_ understand the ethnic based conflicts in various parts of the world. The U.S. is perhaps something of a special case in this respect, because its population is composed of people from all around the world, with basically only two unifying factors, the constitution and the English language.=20 BTW, did you know that Finns carry knives all the time and basically live in the sauna, and that Norwegians are somewhat stupid? Well, of course this is not true(?), but these are "truths" everybody knows in Sweden. (And Finns asume all Swedish men are gay because... etc. etc.)=20 Are there American myths of this sort about Canadians or Mexicans? [...snipped more good points...] > Eating the expense, which makes you ashamed because your country > won't eat the same expense, is costing the U.S. billions upon > billions of dollars in lost productivity, and is in fact > entrenching the ghettoization of the people taught that way. =20 To my way of thinking, a major part of who I am is my language. Descartes said "I think, therefore I am", but I'd like to change that to "I speak and share a language with my neighbors, therefore I am". If you aren't allowed to communicate in your language, you aren't allowed to be who you are. Of course I think that if one migrates to a new country, priority one is to learn the language of that country, but on the other hand,... eh... er... I'm too tired for this, and I really don't know what I think about this. I'll have to chew a bit on this one. HAND --=20 Martin Karlsson _ GPG/PGP public key: 0x9C924660 ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) -against HTML, vCards and X -proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE88pHrZv+TMpySRmARAt9sAJ4w8WHxz/wu7ZWDRmsFqTsRurZBBgCfZ71G enLJjx+wsaieplZe8c0xKQI= =KfGp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message