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Date:      Sat, 02 Aug 2014 14:12:44 -0400
From:      Dutch Ingraham <stoa@gmx.us>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Audio CDs Not Playing
Message-ID:  <53DD2A1C.7020009@gmx.us>
In-Reply-To: <201408011801.s71I19Vr062661@enceladus10.kn-bremen.de>
References:  <53D97A50.8090006@gmx.us> <alpine.GSO.1.10.1407302123080.21571@multics.mit.edu> <53D9A676.6050303@gmx.us> <201408011801.s71I19Vr062661@enceladus10.kn-bremen.de>

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On 08/01/2014 02:01 PM, Juergen Lock wrote:
> In article <alpine.GSO.1.10.1407310959100.21571@multics.mit.edu> you write:
>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2014, Dutch Ingraham wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the info, Ben.  I had actually seen something on that issue in an
>>> old (May 2008) daemonforums post while researching this problem. There, the
>>> poster suggested using amarok or xmms - programs capable of "digital audio
>>> extraction" ( I don't know what that is ) and in which it was implied that
>>> cdcontrol was not capable of.
>>>
>>> xmms is deprecated and I don't want the hundreds of files that come with
>>> amarok.  I suppose I could try something like audacious, but as noted, vlc
>>> doesn't work either, so I'd prefer to not get into the cycle of downloading a
>>> bunch of similar programs just to find out there was a simple setting I was
>>> missing.
>>>
>>> Also, the current man page for <cdcontrol> and the handbook don't adress such
>>> a restriction that I could find.
>>>
>>> Does "digital audio extraction" mean anything to you or is it helpful in ay
>>> way?
>>
>> I think I know what it means.  The easiest way to think about it is
>> probably to realize that in order to play audio, the bits recorded on the
>> CD have to make it to the digital-analog converter somehow.  If there's no
>> direct line from the CD drive to the sound card (as we were discussing in
>> the trimmed text), then that data has to be moved around in software.
>> Some tool is needed to extract the audio data from the CD drive, and some
>> tool is needed to send those off to the sound card; these tools can be the
>> same, but need not be.
>>
>> I tend to use cdparanoia for the first step, and the play(1) utility
>> provided by audio/sox for the second step, leaving the bits around on my
>> (sizable) hard drive for later use.  It sounds like xmms and amarok can
>> combine the two steps into one, without leaving the bits on disk as an
>> intermediate; I'm not sure offhand whether there are more lightweight
>> utilities that can also do so.
>>
>> -Ben
>
> You can use mplayer built with CDIO knob too, see this forum thread:
>
> 	https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?&t=27167#p198402
>
> (which also has info about xpt0 and passX permssions to be adjusted
> if you want to do this as non-root.)
>
>   HTH, :)
> 	Juergen
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Thanks, Juergen.  Nice thread, also confirming Tijl's information on the 
use (or non-use) of <cdcontrol> on more current hardware.



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