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Date:      Sat, 7 May 2005 15:10:12 +0800 (WST)
From:      David Adam <zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
To:        Ion-Mihai Tetcu <itetcu@people.tecnik93.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD gnats submit <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: docs/80681: articles/problem-reports: don't tell people they should sumbit a PR each time they see an outdated port
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.58.0505061604360.13491@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <20050506044846.2473f92c@it.buh.tecnik93.com>
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> > Why not just "If you are reporting a new version of a port, try to contact
> > the port's maintainer first."?
>
> So that I don't see PR but post on ports@ ? Well, it will be an
> improvement, at least no one will have to close them.

I have two primary problems with the proposed patch
- It's poorly written. This can be fixed.
- The general message that it gives is not one I think is beneficial. We
should be trying to remove barriers for people to report problems, not
institute them.

I can understand that you want to reduce the amount of waffle in the PR
database, but I think your proposed change is too complicated and too
negative.

Now, I am not a committer nor subscribed to ports@, but surely hitting the
Delete key once or twice a week more often is not that huge a price to
pay?

I propose that this patch be shortened to:

--- article.sgml.orig   2005-01-15 10:16:42.000000000 +0800
+++ article.sgml        2005-05-07 15:07:06.622424000 +0800
@@ -106,7 +106,8 @@
        <para>Notification of updates to externally maintained
          software (mainly ports, but also externally maintained base
          system components such as BIND or various GNU
-         utilities).</para>
+         utilities). If you are reporting a new version of a
+         port, try contacting the port's maintainer first.</para>
       </listitem>
     </itemizedlist>

David Adam
zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au



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