From owner-cvs-all Sat May 4 17: 3:45 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F38E37B419; Sat, 4 May 2002 17:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46B6D8148F; Sun, 5 May 2002 09:33:36 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 09:33:36 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: "M. Warner Losh" Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4 wi.4 Message-ID: <20020505093336.E34811@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200205031811.g43IBIp38028@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020504113032.D12386@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020503.224516.115910512.imp@village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020503.224516.115910512.imp@village.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 3 May 2002 at 22:45:16 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20020504113032.D12386@wantadilla.lemis.com> > "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: >> On Friday, 3 May 2002 at 11:11:18 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: >>> imp 2002/05/03 11:11:18 PDT >>> >>> Modified files: >>> share/man/man4 wi.4 >>> Log: >>> Minor tweaks: >>> o go ahead and document ibss-master and ibss modes, since there are >>> patches in the pipeline to support them. >> >> OK, now I'm thoroughly confused. What's the difference between IBSS >> and IBSS master? My understanding was that the term "master" applied >> to the station providing the BSSID in IBSS mode, and that it didn't do >> anything else. Is this just a way to tell the driver whether to form >> an IBSS or not? If so, I'd suggest that you find some other term to >> describe that station, since "master" suggests some other >> functionality. > > No, that't it. ibss-master provides the network name so that all the > other cards can talk to each other. OpenBSD already uses this term, > and there's absolutely no sense in being gratutitously incompatible. That's true enough, but who do you want to be compatible with? This term is also gratuitously incompatible with the standard, and it confuses the hell out of most people, including seasoned BSD hackers. > It isn't ideal, but changing the name will make it harder to share > code with OpenBSD. I'm trying to merge the drivers, so that is a > big deal to me. Since OpenBSD has already done 3.1 with > "ibss-master" in it, it is too late for them to change, so we're > stuck with it. Well, it's too late for them to change for 3.1, but if something's wrong, it makes sense to change it. What we should do is discuss it with the OpenBSD people (and presumably the NetBSD people too). Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message