From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 19:10:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589871065670 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 027718FC15 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:10:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so61277ana.13 for ; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:10:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wvir1/I5eIVRn9Scfm9r7M9mI86Zut42ZnCmobcaX0s=; b=WdUmkuS9ilmgJhoOYX39sNZqlIaz6sW/egmRVb1Jc990X0tBbMUigrpxNVp/fmz7FC DMsxeU4yyBPtclTATcCl0IOhTQnWjZiH/x265XUxv7ZF6ue0T520ZhTPTlq650/rOxla HbHh7mhjtd/Jyi3QbLkoNspeCbCzHlf+QPQG8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=MVwmySh35qUU5EhKdssN5WQtywBsbBDeLg0t9TlPBY6XapnhxF75Jf3I0Y1UzWOEgf 1SayDTDBPRQlK4QwT1B5k+WLh+/BzEVZB2RhNtgpno8r1CVvrVuLgrs3ZjP69ARj5b9p /XDd243HYTHleqwJl5dDJKCnRYzKcz7pZbsBQ= Received: by 10.100.33.13 with SMTP id g13mr467090ang.96.1212606632057; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.3.231? ( [71.250.42.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c9sm4082545ana.9.2008.06.04.12.10.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:10:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" To: Josh Paetzel In-Reply-To: <200806040745.19637.josh@tcbug.org> References: <18501.12329.638264.761303@cs.wpi.edu> <1212506007.48455f97a3788@webmail.vt.edu> <20080604122513.GA24093@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <200806040745.19637.josh@tcbug.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:09:23 -0400 Message-Id: <1212606563.1226.11.camel@RabbitsDen> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , nlaroche@vt.edu, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lenovo Thinkpad t61p and FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:10:33 -0000 On Wed, 2008-06-04 at 07:45 -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote: > On Wednesday 04 June 2008 07:25:13 am Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 11:13:27AM -0400, nlaroche@vt.edu wrote: > > > Quoting nlaroche@vt.edu: > > > > Quoting Jeremy Chadwick : > > > > > Based on my experiences with my workplace-provided T60p, it's safe to > > > > > say I'll never recommend a Lenovo product. The temperatures of these > > > > > laptops are absolutely insane, supported by an incredibly loud fan. > > > > > I'm not interested in a product that can have a GPU reaching > > > > > temperatures of almost 70C **while idling**. > > > > > > > > I purchased a T60p about two months ago and I haven't had any of these > > > > happen (yet?) running Ubuntu 7.10. The machine only gets slightly warm > > > > to the touch after a few hours idling. > > > > > > > > Does your fan run all the time that loud? I'm wondering if there were > > > > changes made at the factory to fix this type of problem if it was wide > > > > spread. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Nick LaRoche > > > > > > That was a T61p not a T60p > > > > It really doesn't matter in this case; T60p, T60p (widescreen), T61p, > > X60p, etc... They all behave the same way when it comes to > > temperatures: incredibly high, sometimes to the point of the system > > shutting off (for some). > > My T60p is really unusable for anything cpu intensive under FreeBSD. Even > with the ibm acpi addons loaded and the fan set to it's highest setting it > only turns at 3700rpm, which isn't enough to keep it from shutting down due > to heat. (eg over 100C) > > I'm interested in whatever cooling solutions people have... > You can read through this thread: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=141019+0 +/usr/local/www/db/text/2008/freebsd-acpi/20080217.freebsd-acpi which mentions at least two ways to approach it -- the right one from the referenced message forward. HTH, -- Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко)