Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:01:11 -0500 (EST) From: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu> To: kdk@daleco.biz (Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need assitance installin FreeBSD Message-ID: <200403241501.i2OF1C023831@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <4060C422.8070207@daleco.biz> from "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." at Mar 23, 2004 05:11:30 PM
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> > Felt a need to clarify this; flame me > where I'm wrong.... > > Jerry McAllister wrote: > > >Actually, I think the intention of the MINI-ISO is to boot and > >run the installation with everything loaded from one of the ftp > >sites. > > > > > > > > This doesn't sound correct at all. What you've described is > what the _floppies_ do. They boot and run sysinstall and get > you to the 'Net for FTP setup. The mini ISO gives you the > "minimal" install. That is, the root stuff (/, etc, bin, sbin, stand, > and /usr/sbin, /usr/bin, the gnu and otherwise contributed base, > and /var (cron files and so on).... No. What about systems without floppies? > After running sysinstall from the mini ISO, you > should be able to have a working system without > accessing the 'Net. However, that simply means > that you can use the CLI to go further, and most > everyone will want to. You may be able to get a very minimal system, but you must get everything else (as you list below) via ftp. So, I may have underestimated the amount of minimal stuff on the mini-iso, but the principle is the same. You burn a mini-iso to do an install via ftp over the net. If you have a floppy drive and want to use floppies, you can do that just as easily. > There is no ports skeleton installed, no ports tarballs, > no documentation, no packages, no compat, no X, > just good old ls, cat, grep, tar, etc. and a few > editors (vi, ed, ee) ... As close as you'll get to > a GUI with the mini ISO and no net connection > is the sysinstall program itself. > > >You just burn the MINI-ISO directly to CD and boot from it - no other > >manipulation of the file such as trying to uncompress it or make a > >bootable file system. It is all already there as is.. > > > > Yes...IIRC, there can be some issues if the burn tool > you're using doesn't speak the correct lingo. If that's > the case, you'll likely not boot from it OR do any further > installation. > > >You burn the CD, boot it, do the preliminary stuff and then when selecting > >install media, choose ftp and then pick a site that is convenient from > >the list and it handles all the rest. If you have a good high speed > >net connection - at a university or something, it takes less than > >an hour. > > > As I said, not necessary until you get around to something > not listed above. See my earlier post on my strategy for this. You barely have a system at that level - at least not what we generally think of as real server or development environments. ////jerry > > As for the speed, that's probably true. But the full ISO #1 > was 5-6 hours over T1 last I checked (and trusting the telco's > word that it was really a T1 --- I was skeptical after seeing > that estimate....) Well, I never download the full iso #1 or #2 because it works well via ftp. /jrm > > Kevin Kinsey > DaleCo, S.P. >
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