Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 12:39:35 -0600 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, Christopher Masto <chris@netmonger.net>, Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired! Message-ID: <19991211123935.H760@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <6152.944849073@critter.freebsd.dk>; from phk@critter.freebsd.dk on Fri, Dec 10, 1999 at 07:04:33PM %2B0100 References: <199912101757.KAA19772@mt.sri.com> <6152.944849073@critter.freebsd.dk>
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On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 19:04:33 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <199912101757.KAA19772@mt.sri.com>, Nate Williams writes: >>> What we need here is a commitment to these new initiatives, not a lot of >>> fence-sitting and clutching our knitting to our chests. >> >> If all our users were developers I would agree. But *most* of our users >> are not developers. > > -CURRENT should have very few users who are not developers in some > capacity. Agreed. As I said earlier in the thread, the problem is that we're 5 weeks from releasing this code as 4.0-RELEASE. I think we might be able to compromise here: issue 4.0 with a disclaimer saying "AFAWK Cyrix DMA support is broken. If you have a Cyrix [IDE] chip, use 3.[45]-RELEASE instead.". >> Good question. What are we trying to achieve here? I thought it was to >> provide the best OS that is usable to the largest number of users? > > And this requires us to move away the old cruft so we force the > people on the bleeding edge to test the new stuff. > > All in all, it sounds to me like a lot of people are presenting > a stance which can be summarized as: > > "why should *I* have to be guinea-pig for the ata driver > in -current make somebody else test it first." I haven't noticed anybody doing that. It's certainly not my concern; as soon as I get home I'm going to try out the 5591 code and make sure it works correctly. > To which the answer is: If you decide to run -current you have > tacitly agreed to be a guinea-pig for FreeBSD developers, so > shut up and test. To which the answer is what I said above: today's -CURRENT is next month's -RELEASE. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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