From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 9 10:13:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7573B106566C for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 10:13:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ee0-f54.google.com (mail-ee0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDFF8FC17 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 10:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so4435653eek.13 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 03:13:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=TKs6rQJk5mrIHJ1p6OiJJyZJndSpZD1xB3wYskr9Uso=; b=O603hLg2hrupJzCjhV55xJ9SPz8cQczIYdCPQMZU4h2N/Qex3eQjuGfWc7+9fxBUdL sVc2qwPEDoY/euCwA2F2QPdvyqjBE+sgPCadFjQWjUSMuFPUBu56u+uf9BYiU0dwWjg0 idB1TdB4Z/eykzrExu9molCMrFg0D0l6vTN21EYhUexlDp1l6tiatO7FwkejfTscvEBu d/N2C5u3BKIaZKYjkfC9nFAugiK+qJL1unhT3MaJeme2INndvQTZmTX1SIdkfwF3839D ckY/u1oDABtrOmXwnBMMrJe8gbNxJ3NzGnLr6aPegklINRUk/WGbsjbw0EDa3YWwORAo JYEw== Received: by 10.14.185.137 with SMTP id u9mr9523247eem.219.1341828811170; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 03:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s4sm92470534eef.2.2012.07.09.03.13.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 09 Jul 2012 03:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FFAAEC7.1040407@my.gd> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:13:27 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <4FF2E00E.2030502@FreeBSD.org> <86bojxow6x.fsf@ds4.des.no> <89AB703D-E075-4AAC-AC1B-B358CC4E4E7F@lists.zabbadoz.net> <4FF8C3A1.9080805@FreeBSD.org> <0AFE3C4A-22DB-4134-949F-4D05BBFC4C6C@lists.zabbadoz.net> <4FF8CA35.7040209@FreeBSD.org> <4FF952FB.10200@FreeBSD.org> <4FF99C12.8070004@obluda.cz> <4FFA01D7.8090807@FreeBSD.org> <4FFA0D4E.3050507@obluda.cz> In-Reply-To: <4FFA0D4E.3050507@obluda.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmbhBv2hf11B7Lw5A5jhi+BDXmSn48GVGeIIhSp6rSSTjUGRUOUwhm0J+SW6qvmMonIc5sI Subject: Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 10:13:38 -0000 On 7/9/12 12:44 AM, Dan Lukes wrote: > On 07/08/12 23:55, Doug Barton: >> On 07/08/2012 07:41, Dan Lukes wrote: > ... >> Sorry, you're not understanding what is being proposed. Specifically >> you're confusing the system stub resolver (the bit that's compiled into >> libc, and used by binaries) and the resolving name server (BIND). No one >> is proposing to replace the stub. > > > libc stub resolver is BIND code based, so I assumed that arguments > against BIND apply to it as well. > > I'm happy it's not true. > > In my humble opinion, no resolving name server need to be part of base > at all. We have no DHCP, VPN, RADIUS, WWW, ... server in the base as well. > > > Thank you for clarifying. > > Dan > Whereas you don't need a DHCP, VPN, RADIUS or WWW server to do *anything at all* with your newly installed BSD machine, you sort of need a DNS resolver... I for one am not going to use a 3rd party resolver, even if only to download the ports' source code for BIND, so I'm happy it's provided in the base.