From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 00:16:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC7A1065672 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 00:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8189F8FC14 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 00:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo03.cox.net ([68.1.16.126]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111009001633.ZBHT3815.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo03.cox.net>; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 20:16:33 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id iQGQ1h00H55wwzE02QGVlq; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 20:16:33 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020209.4E90E7E1.0048,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ASjpOCvEPoSfhuYnpalwTqAN2s78hBywh12H8bbbxwo= c=1 sm=1 a=fahu9-ItEukA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=kUE9_nA9OwfoA5gzE7oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p990GJks038997; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 19:16:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 19:16:14 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: Allen Message-ID: <20111008191614.27d9e7b0@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <4E900B3F.9010400@comcast.net> References: <4E900B3F.9010400@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_upgrade seems to try server that isn't right X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 00:16:39 -0000 On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 04:35:11 -0400 Allen wrote: [snip] > I noticed a little while ago I had "upgrade_pkg" and since I have 0 > Ports (I don't need to squeeze out extra performance, I'm not running > a Server, so I only compile when I have to, and I like Binaries more > so I generally install my software either with sysinstall, or, > pkg_add -r whateverIWant) and then, get emailed that my software has > a security flaw, and from there it usually went down hill. > > Well, now I have Hardware security in place, and that allowed me to > not worry about it as much, su, I started reading the man page. I saw > that I could do this: > > upgrade_pkg -a > > When I ran this, I noticed it was trying to get to a server about > FreeBSD Release 8, and freebsd-update, uses the right one. > freebsd-update grabs patches no problem, but for software packages it > doesn't touch them, though I DO wish it did.... If I could code in C, > the first thing I would do, would be to build a Package for FreeBSD > that basically was like this: > > fbsdupdate --update --all > > That would download, and install, ALL Security and Bug Fixes, no > matter if it was in the base system, the ports, or whatever. Since > I'm no coder, I can't though. But I did wonder why it wouldn't work. > > I read through the man page, looking to see if it showed a file it > uses to decide where to contact the server, but there isn't one. So > basically, how do you make upgrade_pkg work the way it says in the > man page? > > I basically figured I'd run upgrade_pkg -af and let it update and > reinstall everything, and Hoped that would patch it, but it kept going > for some FreeBSD8-RELEASE server saying it couldn't contact it, and > as I said, freebsd-update works fine, grabbing things from the server > for FreeBSD-RELEASE 8.2 which is what I'm running. I assume you mean "pkg_upgrade" (not "upgrade_pkg")? See the "ENVIRONMENT" section of the man page. All of the pkg_* tools are consistent in how they reference these variables. -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 01:51:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95C21065688 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 01:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from axel@ucs.com) Received: from exchange.ranch.com (ranch.com [184.183.2.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15048FC12 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 01:51:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (70.176.122.205) by exchange.ranch.com (10.1.1.64) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.436.0; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 18:51:24 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 18:51:41 -0700 From: Colin Barnabas To: Michael Starr , FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: New FreeBSD User | HP Doesn't Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 01:51:25 -0000 Are you able to boot from the usb you used to install? If yes, then my first instinct would be to scrub the disk and start over. Hopefully what ever is going on is just a freak anomaly. If you can boot the from the usb stick, go to the fixit shell and run dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=1k That will fill the disk with zeros, erasing _everything_. On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 04:56:29PM -0700, Michael Starr wrote: > Thanks for the prompt response. The screen only shows the HP startup screen with the "Press the Esc Key for Startup Menu" at the bottom. When I press it, it doesn't do anything. Researching this a little more, it looks more like a partitioning issue. However, I used the automatic settings to configure the partitions on my hard drive. What could this mean? > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Colin Barnabas > wrote: > The chances that you have inadvertently altered your BIOS are > quite slim. What does the machine display when you try to > boot? > > On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 04:11:31PM -0700, Michael Starr wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I am a brand new FreeBSD user with minimal Unix knowledge. I have > > "successfully" installed FreeBSD on a computer dedicated to the operating > > system. However, after rebooting, the machine can't boot, nor get into BIOS. > > I installed the system from a bootable USB stick. I would try another fresh > > install, but currently I can't do anything. Could someone please direct me > > to a solution? I hope I did not irrevocably alter my BIOS. Any help would be > > deeply appreciated. Thank you. > > > > Computer: HP dvr6 2150us (laptop) > > > > -- > > Michael Starr > > masmidow@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Michael Starr > 760-522-0863 > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 05:11:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1FD3106564A for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 05:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6F28FC12 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 05:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so8015143bkb.13 for ; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 22:11:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IhQJoweTcIbnBAKPLRo6TcpaXfLZQIol7MZCSwJx6U4=; b=BIVsmEyY3841PAiOVRlMFSrGrOpvWOSG7z5azL9SDChLfxzwgniPRkrWYKJM8e69vg JJXZgtGUbDMQ+CtmUPKjq6k3MHMQcGiGhuvNaCel/KqBHa687kg+Az0G9rno1mfZqTwE ENqvoKtn0CNUuMxmkeTVWBVbVDq1HGBMotMm4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.7.18 with SMTP id b18mr3769788fab.31.1318137082904; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 22:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.124.197 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 22:11:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 00:11:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Colin Barnabas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Michael Starr , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: New FreeBSD User | HP Doesn't Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 05:11:25 -0000 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Colin Barnabas wrote: > Are you able to boot from the usb you used to install? If yes, > then my first instinct would be to scrub the disk and > start over. Hopefully what ever is going on is just a freak anomaly. > > If you can boot the from the usb stick, go to the fixit shell and > run > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=1k > Can you please not top-post while on this list as it's convention states? That command is suboptimal to put it kindly. First, it's not necessary to wipe the entire drive, simply destroying the first couple sectors will be sufficent for the cause. Second, in the rare case you do need to wipe the entire thing, don't use bs=1k unless you really enjoy sitting around waiting. Use either of the following if you really must: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=1k count=1 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0 bs=512k but you can call me uncle Eddie if that somehow helps. I'm not sure how you think a bad burn would cause POST to fail. First, I'd check around and see if there were problems with system like this: http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-111507-hp-pavilion-dv6000-won-t-turn-on-black-screen Then I might look for BIOS updates to fix the problem. Teseting BIOS to defaults would be something I would try, followed by unplugging unnecessary peripherals. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 05:15:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3551E106564A for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 05:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C218FC12 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 05:15:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 20869492 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:15:56 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p995FtiN091661 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 12:15:56 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p995FtKE091660 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 12:15:55 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 12:15:54 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20111009051554.GA91440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Questions References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 Subject: need help with pf configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 05:15:59 -0000 Colleagues, I have a configuration with 2 inside interfaces, 1 outside and 1 dmz interface. The traffic should be able to flow 1) from inside1 to any (and back) 2) from inside2 to any (and back) 3) from dmz to outside only (and back). I need no details, just a general hint how to setup such security levels, preferably independent of actual IP addressses behind the interfaces (a :network macro is not always sufficient). It would be nice to find a configuration that would scale to any number of interfaces with different security levels. On a Cisco PIX I would configure outside security0 inside1 security100 inside2 security100 dmz security50 and that's it, the PIX logic would do the rest. Thank you very much in advance for any input. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 06:35:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0931106566B for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 06:35:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B105C8FC08 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 06:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B80FAA2C87; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 08:35:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5792CEC1E; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 08:38:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 08:38:55 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: Victor Sudakov Message-ID: <20111009083855.0e9879f6@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <20111009051554.GA91440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009051554.GA91440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: need help with pf configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 06:35:48 -0000 Le Sun, 9 Oct 2011 12:15:54 +0700, Victor Sudakov a écrit : > I have a configuration with 2 inside interfaces, 1 outside and 1 dmz > interface. The traffic should be able to flow > > 1) from inside1 to any (and back) > 2) from inside2 to any (and back) > 3) from dmz to outside only (and back). > > I need no details, just a general hint how to setup such security > levels, preferably independent of actual IP addressses behind the > interfaces (a :network macro is not always sufficient). You may use urpf-failed instead :network urpf-failed: Any source address that fails a unicast reverse path forwarding (URPF) check, i.e. packets coming in on an interface other than that which holds the route back to the packet's source address. something like block in quick on $inside1 from urpf-failed to any pass in quick on $inside1 I've not tested this. Regards From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 07:39:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E9B106566C for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 07:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395728FC12 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 07:39:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 20870460 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:39:12 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p997dBu0092854 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 14:39:11 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p997dBK8092853 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 14:39:11 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 14:39:10 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20111009073910.GB92531@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Questions References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009051554.GA91440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009083855.0e9879f6@davenulle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111009083855.0e9879f6@davenulle.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 Subject: Re: need help with pf configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 07:39:29 -0000 Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > > > I have a configuration with 2 inside interfaces, 1 outside and 1 dmz > > interface. The traffic should be able to flow > > > > 1) from inside1 to any (and back) > > 2) from inside2 to any (and back) > > 3) from dmz to outside only (and back). > > > > I need no details, just a general hint how to setup such security > > levels, preferably independent of actual IP addressses behind the > > interfaces (a :network macro is not always sufficient). > > You may use urpf-failed instead :network > urpf-failed: Any source address that fails a unicast reverse path > forwarding (URPF) check, i.e. packets coming in on an interface other > than that which holds the route back to the packet's source address. Excuse me, I do not see how this is relevant to my question (allowing traffic to be initiated from a more secure interface to a less secure interface and not vice versa). -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 09:03:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416EC106566B for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 09:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE5E8FC14 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 09:03:03 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AskFAK9bkU7Unw4T/2dsb2JhbABDFpkljmWBBYFTAQEEAX4LCzQSV4gXAgW2FYdDBIdNhwoBAYpHgzmIcA Received: from outmx04.plus.net ([212.159.14.19]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 09 Oct 2011 09:33:43 +0100 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by outmx04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1RCopL-0003I3-2O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 09:33:43 +0100 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RCopJ-0000u7-Mn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 09:33:41 +0100 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 09:33:41 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4E900B3F.9010400@comcast.net> <20111008191614.27d9e7b0@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <20111008191614.27d9e7b0@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201110090933.41543.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: pkg_upgrade seems to try server that isn't right X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 09:03:04 -0000 On Sunday 09 October 2011, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: > I assume you mean "pkg_upgrade" (not "upgrade_pkg")? > > See the "ENVIRONMENT" section of the man page. =A0All of the pkg_* > tools are consistent in how they reference these variables. There isn't a pkg_upgrade in the base system and I'm not aware of one in=20 ports either but I'm open to correction. There is a python script,=20 pkgupgrade, developed by Michel Talon which might meet the OP's needs=20 . Alternatively the OP could use=20 either portmaster or portupgrade from ports, both of these can be=20 forced to use packages instead of building from source by using the -P=20 or -PP options. =2D-=20 Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 09:27:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04FD106564A for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 09:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0298FC12 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 09:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FACEFAA2C87; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:27:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F3E2CEC1E; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:31:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:31:06 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: Victor Sudakov Message-ID: <20111009113106.3848a1cb@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <20111009073910.GB92531@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009051554.GA91440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009083855.0e9879f6@davenulle.org> <20111009073910.GB92531@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: need help with pf configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 09:27:58 -0000 Le Sun, 9 Oct 2011 14:39:10 +0700, Victor Sudakov a écrit : > > > I need no details, just a general hint how to setup such security > > > levels, preferably independent of actual IP addressses behind the > > > interfaces (a :network macro is not always sufficient). > > > > You may use urpf-failed instead :network > > urpf-failed: Any source address that fails a unicast reverse path > > forwarding (URPF) check, i.e. packets coming in on an interface > > other than that which holds the route back to the packet's source > > address. > > Excuse me, I do not see how this is relevant to my question (allowing > traffic to be initiated from a more secure interface to a less secure > interface and not vice versa). Sorry, you can't do this with pf, ipf or ipfw (the 3 firewalls in FreeBSD). There is no concept of security level at all, you must specify on each interface the traffic allowed (in input and output). My reply was about the use of the interface:network addresses. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 10:00:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A96810656FE for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from plaine@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A648FC14 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so5085716qyk.13 for ; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:00:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=l/S/YMe4rkkvQizgHMGQR11BCBMnySesnVny0n9c/Os=; b=pf5ZvaR2I2plToTz79xMW7ykK0U5wEBwylE7bBytLAp6Agf2AVm6EgIBrGrxStqwZ1 2Rxfn2/Y+RwdoLRzGoUiN4WzdQqeLvkdX91XYMkPNG/WHJAedy7bn1qxOKlk84vvlTqQ 60d/aAkfx/LMv/q0/TU2pLwCuPYD5nHRXV7+U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.243.161 with SMTP id lm33mr3092631qcb.4.1318152980017; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 02:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.161.133 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 02:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 12:36:20 +0300 Message-ID: From: pepe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: two networks in one server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 10:00:29 -0000 Hello! I'm just asking before trying if it possible to use two network uplinks in one server so other would be just backup way in? I have currently connection from two ISPs and server is up with one connection. Is it possible to add another nic and wire that to connection from another isp? So isp 1 would be in normal use in/out, but isp 2 could be used connecting in? -- pepe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 11:26:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3960F1065676 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:26:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9841D8FC0C for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p99BQNoW077788 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Oct 2011 12:26:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p99BQNoW077788 DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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b=AzgBo3UdlS6W73xDzq4m9Egwb3ftqsnBqk2/2vxUSStXghlUhfSNrOFCHhNIx5S6p dxISS27kXlM3KXOUgvzr4aZbV2KUaxt+c7+JWvf/Z0z7cDMCmMpn5WCrQheKPRnfQq mslRK35Y4b5p26bs1svR+poewjxCU7lQNBpghTmk= Message-ID: <4E9184D4.50303@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:26:12 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Lamaiziere References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009051554.GA91440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009083855.0e9879f6@davenulle.org> <20111009073910.GB92531@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009113106.3848a1cb@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <20111009113106.3848a1cb@davenulle.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0CCDAFEDAA9CB3B74878A8DC" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: need help with pf configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:26:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0CCDAFEDAA9CB3B74878A8DC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/10/2011 10:31, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Le Sun, 9 Oct 2011 14:39:10 +0700, > Victor Sudakov a =E9crit : >=20 >>>> > > > I need no details, just a general hint how to setup such secur= ity >>>> > > > levels, preferably independent of actual IP addressses behind = the >>>> > > > interfaces (a :network macro is not always sufficient). >>> > >=20 >>> > > You may use urpf-failed instead :network >>> > > urpf-failed: Any source address that fails a unicast reverse path= >>> > > forwarding (URPF) check, i.e. packets coming in on an interface >>> > > other than that which holds the route back to the packet's source= >>> > > address. >> >=20 >> > Excuse me, I do not see how this is relevant to my question (allowin= g >> > traffic to be initiated from a more secure interface to a less secur= e >> > interface and not vice versa). > Sorry, you can't do this with pf, ipf or ipfw (the 3 firewalls in > FreeBSD). There is no concept of security level at all, you must specif= y > on each interface the traffic allowed (in input and output). >=20 > My reply was about the use of the interface:network addresses. pf has the concept of packet tagging. So you can write a small rule to tag traffic crossing eg. your set of internal interfaces and then write one ruleset to filter all that traffic identified by tag. Quoting pf.conf(5): "This can be used, for example, to provide trust between interfaces and to determine if packets have been processed by translation rules." I think that's roughly equivalent to what the OP was asking about. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig0CCDAFEDAA9CB3B74878A8DC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6RhN4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzhDwCfc7DSDOicC28Lu5vpBDHUw+Ss ic0An26NBinEbRA+3Xo8gAqGjXCRo7Q/ =BjtV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0CCDAFEDAA9CB3B74878A8DC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 11:38:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025E1106564A for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CB48FC14 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:38:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p99BcPqD077940 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Oct 2011 12:38:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p99BcPqD077940 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1318160306; bh=ljd6YOtbk6l982c0IpJg406YPD2eXGUZgYisvzk8mc8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E9187AC.6000006@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2009=20Oct=202011=2012:38:20=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:7.0.1)=20Gecko/2 0110929=20Thunderbird/7.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20pepe=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=2 0two=20networks=20in=20one=20server?|References:=20|In-Reply-T o:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.2|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Con tent-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20pr otocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------ ------enig81454CDBC736671A1E03FC18"; b=0AGDsln3mluywLHhlb9qFnOtwWxwv0MTNUzGQBcDH6OhSfe5iwhrCCPv3yoI//C4K zYKzjR1Iw5vvrRyHzzvN+6NsR1fyBsoSwCXsYj0FdysGSeCXdNWeqgEznvGYTTt/7M NjevyemIxWkmDP1FM9z40VaZeTgrmJ9QaKqyHVco= Message-ID: <4E9187AC.6000006@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:38:20 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pepe References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig81454CDBC736671A1E03FC18" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: two networks in one server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:38:30 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig81454CDBC736671A1E03FC18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/10/2011 10:36, pepe wrote: > I'm just asking before trying if it possible to use two network uplinks= in > one server so other would be just backup way in? > I have currently connection from two ISPs and server is up with one > connection. Is it possible to add another nic and wire that to connecti= on > from another isp? So isp 1 would be in normal use in/out, but isp 2 cou= ld be > used connecting in? This is a very commonly asked question around the Internet. The answer is -- it's a lot harder to do properly than you might think. Requires understanding Internet routing protocols like BGP and you will need the cooperation of both ISPs to make it all work. However there is a "light" version which might work for you. Keywords here are "policy based routing." In this case you can use firewall software to forward packets by an alternate gateway. This only affects the outward path from your system: no good at all if all the incoming traffic is using an uplink that fails, but you can use it to load balance across multiple links. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig81454CDBC736671A1E03FC18 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6Rh7EACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzObQCdGmQyMBEKb/+Z/IXa/5Rydt6n iw8An1jAga/RvqHtkRLh7XD6J1KU5juD =t2mN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig81454CDBC736671A1E03FC18-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 11:45:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193B4106566B for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D1438FC16 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Oct 2011 11:44:19 -0000 Received: from sany-epe.ath.forthnet.gr (EHLO [192.168.1.4]) [193.92.253.30] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu003) with SMTP; 09 Oct 2011 13:44:19 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/bItg2Tgbbgg2cV+cyFyV00u6JfHjcdY/uzLk/Cj TMAO9czR0ObZDX Message-ID: <4E91890D.7050105@gmx.com> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:44:13 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Questions References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009051554.GA91440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009083855.0e9879f6@davenulle.org> <20111009073910.GB92531@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <20111009073910.GB92531@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Re: need help with pf configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:45:57 -0000 On 10/9/2011 10:39 AM, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: >> >>> I have a configuration with 2 inside interfaces, 1 outside and 1 dmz >>> interface. The traffic should be able to flow >>> >>> 1) from inside1 to any (and back) >>> 2) from inside2 to any (and back) >>> 3) from dmz to outside only (and back). >>> >>> I need no details, just a general hint how to setup such security >>> levels, preferably independent of actual IP addressses behind the >>> interfaces (a :network macro is not always sufficient). >> >> You may use urpf-failed instead :network >> urpf-failed: Any source address that fails a unicast reverse path >> forwarding (URPF) check, i.e. packets coming in on an interface other >> than that which holds the route back to the packet's source address. > > Excuse me, I do not see how this is relevant to my question (allowing > traffic to be initiated from a more secure interface to a less secure > interface and not vice versa). > What if you combine macros and lists? The ruleset below seems "scalable" to any number of interfaces. inside1 = em1 inside2 = em2 dmz = em0 insides = "{" $inside1:network $inside2:network "}" pass in on $dmz from $dmz:network to any block in on $dmz from any to $insides This expands nicely to: lab# pfctl -vf te inside1 = "em1" inside2 = "em2" dmz = "em0" insides = "{ em1:network em2:network }" pass in on em0 inet from 192.168.73.0/24 to any flags S/SA keep state block drop in on em0 inet from any to 10.0.0.0/29 block drop in on em0 inet from any to 192.168.56.0/24 HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 16:24:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CE0106566B for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 16:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF5A8FC0A for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 16:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.intranet.com.mx (189.144.47.109) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9) for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:11:10 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:10:07 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jorge Biquez In-Reply-To: <4E9187AC.6000006@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4E9187AC.6000006@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3401021471-106896244@intranet.com.mx> Subject: Re: two networks in one server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 16:24:31 -0000 Hello all. Another solution I have seen some clients use... a router that accepts different ISP's in this case ADSL. The equipment does the job and integrates all the internet services so the internal network see them as only one). I guess there are equipments of 24-8 and 16 connections. I hope this helps. At 06:38 a.m. 09/10/2011, Matthew Seaman wrote: >On 09/10/2011 10:36, pepe wrote: > > I'm just asking before trying if it possible to use two network uplinks in > > one server so other would be just backup way in? > > I have currently connection from two ISPs and server is up with one > > connection. Is it possible to add another nic and wire that to connection > > from another isp? So isp 1 would be in normal use in/out, but isp > 2 could be > > used connecting in? > >This is a very commonly asked question around the Internet. > >The answer is -- it's a lot harder to do properly than you might think. > Requires understanding Internet routing protocols like BGP and you will >need the cooperation of both ISPs to make it all work. > >However there is a "light" version which might work for you. Keywords >here are "policy based routing." In this case you can use firewall >software to forward packets by an alternate gateway. This only affects >the outward path from your system: no good at all if all the incoming >traffic is using an uplink that fails, but you can use it to load >balance across multiple links. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > >-- >Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 >PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate >JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 17:06:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE89106566B for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:06:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from armin@frozen-zone.org) Received: from mailbackup.inode.at (mailbackup.inode.at [213.229.60.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570B88FC12 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [62.99.145.23] (port=60549 helo=mx.inode.at) by mailbackup.inode.at with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RCwao-0006aO-La for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:51:14 +0200 Received: from [84.119.26.239] (port=2152 helo=fz-sub1.local) by smartmx-21.inode.at with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCwam-0006Fu-E0; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:51:12 +0200 Message-ID: <4E91D0EA.6040506@frozen-zone.org> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:50:50 +0200 From: Armin Pirkovitsch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111007 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Starr References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New FreeBSD User | HP Doesn't Boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 17:06:08 -0000 On 10/09/11 01:11, Michael Starr wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I am a brand new FreeBSD user with minimal Unix knowledge. I have > "successfully" installed FreeBSD on a computer dedicated to the operating > system. However, after rebooting, the machine can't boot, nor get into BIOS. > I installed the system from a bootable USB stick. I would try another fresh > install, but currently I can't do anything. Could someone please direct me > to a solution? I hope I did not irrevocably alter my BIOS. Any help would be > deeply appreciated. Thank you. > > Computer: HP dvr6 2150us (laptop) First of all - I looked for you notebook and it looks like you have an Intel Core i3 with an Intel GMA HD. If that is the case you will have troubles running Xorg on that notebook due to the lack of KMS in FreeBSD. There is a patch for HEAD (the development version of FreeBSD) but quiet some work is needed to get it running. KMS is under development right now - but not yet available in any releases... Regarding your problem: I have the same problem on my notebook - my solution is dirty but I was not able find a better one: (or better - not any other at all) - Install FreeBSD, remove the disk from your computer, put it in an external case and run fdisk (e.g. linux fdisk - i used fdisk from the parted magic boot cd for that) Mark the correct partition as active (even if it's already marked as such - remove the flag, write it, set it back and again write) - put it back into your notebook - now everything should work fine - don't ever press any of the F keys during the boot (it usually prompts for it) - it would result in the same problem as before - if you want to install eg windows now would be the time (if so - use the windows boot manager to boot freebsd - do NOT use the freebsd boot manager (the F1, F2, ... thing) ) [ http://bastian.rieck.ru/howtos/windows_boot_manager/ ] To be honest - I haven't tried booting FreeBSD after that fix without Windows - so no promises there - it might happen that it boots eg only once... An alternative solution would be to install FreeBSD using GPT instead of MBR (works if you a.) don't care about windows, or b.) have UEFI BIOS to install Windows on a GPT disk) Armin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 17:28:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0141065672 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:28:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd_user@guice.ath.cx) Received: from WORKSTATION.guice.ath.cx (static-72-66-82-53.washdc.fios.verizon.net [72.66.82.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7528FC12 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wtp1.ath.cx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by WORKSTATION.guice.ath.cx (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p99HSJIM095853 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:28:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from freebsd_user@guice.ath.cx) Received: from 72.66.82.53 (SquirrelMail authenticated user email) by wtp1.ath.cx with HTTP; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:28:19 -0400 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:28:19 -0400 From: freebsd_user@guice.ath.cx To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: System randomly not logging complete bi-directional traffic. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 17:28:20 -0000 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org # # # FreeBSD_7-4 RELEASE # Our hardware is pristine # # What is described herein are regular, yet random occurrences; we need help. We have already performed a reinstall of FreeBSD_7-4 RELEASE (and the daemons in question); the issue remains. Below, is part of a conversation with an httpd whereby the packets (entire conversations) are randomly 'not' being logged and/or seen by either the httpd nor ipfw (logging enabled), yet both tshark and tcpdump are capturing everything. To be perfectly clear, httpd and ipfw (randomly) will not see/log anything of an 'entire conversation'. It is not like it drops certain packets of a conversation; they (httpd/ipfw) either see and log everything during a conversation, or, 'do not see' and 'do not log' any packet associated with a given conversation; all the while tshark and tcpdump are capturing everything (bidirectional); hence the connection is real. The capture below was witnessed by both tshark and tcpdump, but not logged via the httpd or the following ipfw rule: $cmd 00029 deny log logamount 0 ip from "table(1)" to me 80 The above ipfw rule functions properly from "table(1)" which contains -- ip.ip.ip.ip/32 -- one (1) ip per line. The names (below) were changed to protect the innocent; yeah right. Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: ex.ter.nal.ip (ex.ter.nal.ip), Dst: in.ter.nal.ip (in.ter.nal.ip) Version: 4 Header length: 20 bytes Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00: Not-ECT (Not ECN-Capable Transport)) 0000 00.. = Differentiated Services Codepoint: Default (0x00) .... ..00 = Explicit Congestion Notification: Not-ECT (Not ECN-Capable Transport) (0x00) Total Length: 60 Identification: 0x8ce5 (36069) Flags: 0x02 (Don't Fragment) 0... .... = Reserved bit: Not set .1.. .... = Don't fragment: Set ..0. .... = More fragments: Not set Fragment offset: 0 Time to live: 251 Protocol: TCP (6) Header checksum: 0x9102 [correct] [Good: True] [Bad: False] Source: ex.ter.nal.ip (ex.ter.nal.ip) Destination: in.ter.nal.ip (in.ter.nal.ip) Transmission Control Protocol, Src Port: 46463 (46463), Dst Port: http (80), Seq: 0, Len: 0 Source port: 46463 (46463) Destination port: http (80) [Stream index: 19] Sequence number: 0 (relative sequence number) Header length: 40 bytes Flags: 0x02 (SYN) 000. .... .... = Reserved: Not set ...0 .... .... = Nonce: Not set .... 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduced (CWR): Not set .... .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set .... ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set .... ...0 .... = Acknowledgement: Not set .... .... 0... = Push: Not set .... .... .0.. = Reset: Not set .... .... ..1. = Syn: Set [Expert Info (Chat/Sequence): Connection establish request (SYN): server port http] [Message: Connection establish request (SYN): server port http] [Severity level: Chat] [Group: Sequence] .... .... ...0 = Fin: Not set Window size value: 5840 [Calculated window size: 5840] Checksum: 0xe7f8 [validation disabled] [Good Checksum: False] [Bad Checksum: False] Options: (20 bytes) Maximum segment size: 1460 bytes TCP SACK Permitted Option: True Timestamps: TSval 309029146, TSecr 0 Kind: Timestamp (8) Length: 10 Timestamp value: 309029146 Timestamp echo reply: 0 No-Operation (NOP) Window scale: 7 (multiply by 128) Kind: Window Scale (3) Length: 3 Shift count: 7 [Multiplier: 128] Frame Number: 51 Frame Length: 74 bytes (592 bits) Capture Length: 74 bytes (592 bits) [Frame is marked: False] [Frame is ignored: False] [Protocols in frame: eth:ip:tcp] Ethernet II, Src: Router_cf:gr:f0 (11:52:c3:fd:dd:f0), Dst: Goe_40:84:21 (00:15:18:40:28:41) Destination: Goe_40:84:21 (00:15:18:40:28:41) Address: Goe_40:84:21 (00:15:18:40:28:41) .... ...0 .... .... .... .... = IG bit: Individual address (unicast) .... ..0. .... .... .... .... = LG bit: Globally unique address (factory default) Source: Router_cf:gr:f0 (11:52:c3:fd:dd:f0) Address: Router_cf:gr:f0 (11:52:c3:fd:dd:f0) .... ...0 .... .... .... .... = IG bit: Individual address (unicast) .... ..0. .... .... .... .... = LG bit: Globally unique address (factory default) Type: IP (0x0800) Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: ex.ter.nal.ip (ex.ter.nal.ip), Dst: in.ter.nal.ip (in.ter.nal.ip) Version: 4 Header length: 20 bytes Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00: Not-ECT (Not ECN-Capable Transport)) 0000 00.. = Differentiated Services Codepoint: Default (0x00) .... ..00 = Explicit Congestion Notification: Not-ECT (Not ECN-Capable Transport) (0x00) Total Length: 60 Identification: 0x8ce5 (36069) Flags: 0x02 (Don't Fragment) 0... .... = Reserved bit: Not set .1.. .... = Don't fragment: Set ..0. .... = More fragments: Not set Fragment offset: 0 Time to live: 251 Protocol: TCP (6) Header checksum: 0x9102 [correct] [Good: True] [Bad: False] Source: ex.ter.nal.ip (ex.ter.nal.ip) Destination: in.ter.nal.ip (in.ter.nal.ip) Transmission Control Protocol, Src Port: 46463 (46463), Dst Port: http (80), Seq: 0, Len: 0 Source port: 46463 (46463) Destination port: http (80) [Stream index: 19] Sequence number: 0 (relative sequence number) Header length: 40 bytes Flags: 0x02 (SYN) 000. .... .... = Reserved: Not set ...0 .... .... = Nonce: Not set .... 0... .... = Congestion Window Reduced (CWR): Not set .... .0.. .... = ECN-Echo: Not set .... ..0. .... = Urgent: Not set .... ...0 .... = Acknowledgement: Not set .... .... 0... = Push: Not set .... .... .0.. = Reset: Not set .... .... ..1. = Syn: Set [Expert Info (Chat/Sequence): Connection establish request (SYN): server port http] [Message: Connection establish request (SYN): server port http] [Severity level: Chat] [Group: Sequence] .... .... ...0 = Fin: Not set Window size value: 5840 [Calculated window size: 5840] Checksum: 0xe7f8 [validation disabled] [Good Checksum: False] [Bad Checksum: False] Options: (20 bytes) Maximum segment size: 1460 bytes TCP SACK Permitted Option: True Timestamps: TSval 309029146, TSecr 0 Kind: Timestamp (8) Length: 10 Timestamp value: 309029146 Timestamp echo reply: 0 No-Operation (NOP) Window scale: 7 (multiply by 128) Kind: Window Scale (3) Length: 3 Shift count: 7 [Multiplier: 128] ================================ We first noticed this logging issue with Apache22 and thought httpd was the culprit; we installed another httpd and the problem remained. At that point, with two (2) httpds' seemingly offering the same results we decided to enable ipfw and its logging feature. Shortly thereafter we notice ipfw was also randomly 'not seeing' the exact same traffic, destined for port 80, that neither httpd's were also 'not seeing', yet Tshark and tcpdump are in fact, capturing these packets. We would like help to troubleshoot this concern rather than blindly replacing things such as syslogd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 19:09:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8F61065675 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:09:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721468FC16 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so7714681wwe.31 for ; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:09:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.42.136 with SMTP id s8mr5189795wbe.28.1318187365197; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.84.164 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 12:09:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 12:09:25 -0700 Message-ID: From: Michael Sierchio To: freebsd_user@guice.ath.cx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System randomly not logging complete bi-directional traffic. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 19:09:27 -0000 Sorry to have missed your prior post - please include the entire ruleset. Thanks. On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:28 AM, wrote: > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > # > # > # FreeBSD_7-4 RELEASE > # Our hardware is pristine > # > # What is described herein are regular, yet random occurrences; we need h= elp. > > We have already performed a reinstall of FreeBSD_7-4 RELEASE (and the > daemons in question); the issue remains. Below, is part of a conversation > with an httpd whereby the packets (entire conversations) are randomly > 'not' being logged and/or seen by either the httpd nor ipfw (logging > enabled), yet both tshark and tcpdump are capturing everything. > > To be perfectly clear, httpd and ipfw (randomly) will not see/log anythin= g > of an 'entire conversation'. =A0It is not like it drops certain packets o= f a > conversation; they (httpd/ipfw) either see and log everything during a > conversation, or, 'do not see' and 'do not log' any packet associated wit= h > a given conversation; all the while tshark and tcpdump are capturing > everything (bidirectional); hence the connection is real. > > The capture below was witnessed by both tshark and tcpdump, but not logge= d > via the httpd or the following ipfw rule: > > $cmd 00029 deny log logamount 0 ip from "table(1)" to me 80 > > The above ipfw rule functions properly from "table(1)" which contains -- > ip.ip.ip.ip/32 -- one (1) ip per line. > > The names (below) were changed to protect the innocent; yeah right. > > Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: ex.ter.nal.ip (ex.ter.nal.ip), Dst: > in.ter.nal.ip (in.ter.nal.ip) > =A0 =A0Version: 4 > =A0 =A0Header length: 20 bytes > =A0 =A0Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00= : > Not-ECT (Not ECN-Capable Transport)) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00000 00.. =3D Differentiated Services Codepoint: Default (= 0x00) .... > ..00 =3D Explicit Congestion Notification: Not-ECT (Not > ECN-Capable Transport) (0x00) > =A0 =A0Total Length: 60 > =A0 =A0Identification: 0x8ce5 (36069) > =A0 =A0Flags: 0x02 (Don't Fragment) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00... .... =3D Reserved bit: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.1.. .... =3D Don't fragment: Set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0..0. .... =3D More fragments: Not set > =A0 =A0Fragment offset: 0 > =A0 =A0Time to live: 251 > =A0 =A0Protocol: TCP (6) > =A0 =A0Header checksum: 0x9102 [correct] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Good: True] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Bad: False] > =A0 =A0Source: ex.ter.nal.ip (ex.ter.nal.ip) > =A0 =A0Destination: in.ter.nal.ip (in.ter.nal.ip) > Transmission Control Protocol, Src Port: 46463 (46463), Dst Port: http > (80), Seq: 0, Len: 0 > =A0 =A0Source port: 46463 (46463) > =A0 =A0Destination port: http (80) > =A0 =A0[Stream index: 19] > =A0 =A0Sequence number: 0 =A0 =A0(relative sequence number) > =A0 =A0Header length: 40 bytes > =A0 =A0Flags: 0x02 (SYN) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0000. .... .... =3D Reserved: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0...0 .... .... =3D Nonce: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... 0... .... =3D Congestion Window Reduced (CWR): Not se= t > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... .0.. .... =3D ECN-Echo: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... ..0. .... =3D Urgent: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... ...0 .... =3D Acknowledgement: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... .... 0... =3D Push: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... .... .0.. =3D Reset: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... .... ..1. =3D Syn: Set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Expert Info (Chat/Sequence): Connection establish= request > (SYN): server port http] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Message: Connection establish request (SY= N): server port > http] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Severity level: Chat] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Group: Sequence] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... .... ...0 =3D Fin: Not set > =A0 =A0Window size value: 5840 > =A0 =A0[Calculated window size: 5840] > =A0 =A0Checksum: 0xe7f8 [validation disabled] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Good Checksum: False] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Bad Checksum: False] > =A0 =A0Options: (20 bytes) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Maximum segment size: 1460 bytes > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0TCP SACK Permitted Option: True > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Timestamps: TSval 309029146, TSecr 0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Kind: Timestamp (8) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Length: 10 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Timestamp value: 309029146 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Timestamp echo reply: 0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0No-Operation (NOP) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Window scale: 7 (multiply by 128) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Kind: Window Scale (3) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Length: 3 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Shift count: 7 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Multiplier: 128] > =A0 =A0Frame Number: 51 > =A0 =A0Frame Length: 74 bytes (592 bits) > =A0 =A0Capture Length: 74 bytes (592 bits) > =A0 =A0[Frame is marked: False] > =A0 =A0[Frame is ignored: False] > =A0 =A0[Protocols in frame: eth:ip:tcp] > Ethernet II, Src: Router_cf:gr:f0 (11:52:c3:fd:dd:f0), Dst: Goe_40:84:21 > (00:15:18:40:28:41) > =A0 =A0Destination: Goe_40:84:21 (00:15:18:40:28:41) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Address: Goe_40:84:21 (00:15:18:40:28:41) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... ...0 .... .... .... .... =3D IG bit: Individual addre= ss > (unicast) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... ..0. .... .... .... .... =3D LG bit: Globally unique = address > (factory default) > =A0 =A0Source: Router_cf:gr:f0 (11:52:c3:fd:dd:f0) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Address: Router_cf:gr:f0 (11:52:c3:fd:dd:f0) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... ...0 .... .... .... .... =3D IG bit: Individual addre= ss > (unicast) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... ..0. .... .... .... .... =3D LG bit: Globally unique = address > (factory default) > =A0 =A0Type: IP (0x0800) > Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: ex.ter.nal.ip (ex.ter.nal.ip), Dst: > in.ter.nal.ip (in.ter.nal.ip) > =A0 =A0Version: 4 > =A0 =A0Header length: 20 bytes > =A0 =A0Differentiated Services Field: 0x00 (DSCP 0x00: Default; ECN: 0x00= : > Not-ECT (Not ECN-Capable Transport)) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00000 00.. =3D Differentiated Services Codepoint: Default (= 0x00) .... > ..00 =3D Explicit Congestion Notification: Not-ECT (Not > ECN-Capable Transport) (0x00) > =A0 =A0Total Length: 60 > =A0 =A0Identification: 0x8ce5 (36069) > =A0 =A0Flags: 0x02 (Don't Fragment) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00... .... =3D Reserved bit: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.1.. .... =3D Don't fragment: Set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0..0. .... =3D More fragments: Not set > =A0 =A0Fragment offset: 0 > =A0 =A0Time to live: 251 > =A0 =A0Protocol: TCP (6) > =A0 =A0Header checksum: 0x9102 [correct] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Good: True] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Bad: False] > =A0 =A0Source: ex.ter.nal.ip (ex.ter.nal.ip) > =A0 =A0Destination: in.ter.nal.ip (in.ter.nal.ip) > Transmission Control Protocol, Src Port: 46463 (46463), Dst Port: http > (80), Seq: 0, Len: 0 > =A0 =A0Source port: 46463 (46463) > =A0 =A0Destination port: http (80) > =A0 =A0[Stream index: 19] > =A0 =A0Sequence number: 0 =A0 =A0(relative sequence number) > =A0 =A0Header length: 40 bytes > =A0 =A0Flags: 0x02 (SYN) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0000. .... .... =3D Reserved: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0...0 .... .... =3D Nonce: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... 0... .... =3D Congestion Window Reduced (CWR): Not se= t > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... .0.. .... =3D ECN-Echo: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... ..0. .... =3D Urgent: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... ...0 .... =3D Acknowledgement: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... .... 0... =3D Push: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... .... .0.. =3D Reset: Not set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... .... ..1. =3D Syn: Set > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Expert Info (Chat/Sequence): Connection establish= request > (SYN): server port http] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Message: Connection establish request (SY= N): server port > http] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Severity level: Chat] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Group: Sequence] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0.... .... ...0 =3D Fin: Not set > =A0 =A0Window size value: 5840 > =A0 =A0[Calculated window size: 5840] > =A0 =A0Checksum: 0xe7f8 [validation disabled] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Good Checksum: False] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Bad Checksum: False] > =A0 =A0Options: (20 bytes) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Maximum segment size: 1460 bytes > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0TCP SACK Permitted Option: True > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Timestamps: TSval 309029146, TSecr 0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Kind: Timestamp (8) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Length: 10 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Timestamp value: 309029146 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Timestamp echo reply: 0 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0No-Operation (NOP) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Window scale: 7 (multiply by 128) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Kind: Window Scale (3) > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Length: 3 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Shift count: 7 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[Multiplier: 128] > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > We first noticed this logging issue with Apache22 and thought httpd was > the culprit; we installed another httpd and the problem remained. =A0At t= hat > point, with two (2) httpds' seemingly offering the same results we decide= d > to enable ipfw and its logging feature. Shortly thereafter we notice ipfw > was also randomly 'not seeing' the exact same traffic, destined for port > 80, that neither httpd's were also 'not seeing', yet Tshark and tcpdump > are in fact, capturing these packets. > > We would like help to troubleshoot this concern rather than blindly > replacing things such as syslogd. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 9 23:27:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819CE106566C for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 23:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5708E8FC15 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 23:27:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F085A706A5 for ; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6138 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2011 23:06:21 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 3052, pid: 22850, t: 0.0918s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13495 Received: from s6.stradamotorsports.com (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.124]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Oct 2011 23:06:21 -0000 Message-ID: <4E9228EC.2040604@speakeasy.net> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 16:06:20 -0700 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110926 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Rhythmbox and Ipod X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 23:27:20 -0000 Is anyone here able to use Rhythmbox to manage their ipods? I'd like to break the dependency on itunes if I can. I've run the package and compiled my own with the ipod option set to no avail. the ipod is not displayed in devices under rhythmbox. dmesg shows that the device is probed. I am able to mount the ipod using msdosfs. Perhaps there is some hal, dbus, or other dependency that I am missing. How did you get youripod to work with rhythmbox? Thanks, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 01:33:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692E7106564A for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:33:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnorwick@centurytel.net) Received: from mail941c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail941c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C64F8FC08 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:33:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: mnorwick.centurytel.net Received: from bucksnort.norwickhouse.net (174-124-37-123.dyn.centurytel.net [174.124.37.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail941c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p9A1X1ic002989 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:33:03 GMT Message-ID: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 20:33:01 -0500 From: "Michael D. Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110829 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=NcoHE5DaVL9GfFGiyPHSQE0Yfj1Tns2zweE9wUucXs4= c=1 sm=1 a=_tW4y8GFV1YA:10 a=3WPTVEtZbjMA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=nRHtrj2pbMUmV2THcod+iQ==:17 a=4AWO-3P5XFGtGOCXDnoA:9 a=dJDihE8tn866syso4t0A:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=nRHtrj2pbMUmV2THcod+iQ==:117 Subject: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:33:06 -0000 Good Day; Since installing FreeBSD 9-beta2 (now 9-beta3) I have not been able to play a music cd with the dvd writer on this laptop. It is a Dell Latitude D630. I have built several new worlds and kernels with the following devices enabled in the kernel config.; device scbus # SCSI bus (required for ATA/SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device atapicam device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct ATA/SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) $uname -a FreeBSD ****.****.net 9.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 9.0-BETA3 #0: Sat Oct 8 19:48:29 CDT 2011 michael@****.****.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL_100811 amd64 This kernel was built after a recent csup and portsnap fetch. The buildworld and buildkernel steps have executed several times without error. A recent portupgrade only updated a couple of applications. dmesg says this; cd0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 65534bytes) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed and /boot/loader.conf says this; linux_load="YES" atapicam_load="YES" With a music CD in the drive /var/log/messages says this; Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 40 0 Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:64,0 (Illegal mode for this track) Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): cddone: got error 0x6 back and /etc/devfs.conf says this; # Commonly used by many ports #link acd0 cdrom link cd0 cdrom own cd0 root:wheel perm cd0 0660 I think I might be missing something in /etc/devfs.conf. man devfs.conf or the handbook did not get me any closer to a solution. It worked under 8.2 on this machine. Thank You for the help. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 01:49:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53461065675 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012298FC17 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:49:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 20878453 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:49:02 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p9A1n1HA004099 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:49:01 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p9A1n1P0004098 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:49:01 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:49:01 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20111010014901.GA3940@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Questions References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009051554.GA91440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009083855.0e9879f6@davenulle.org> <20111009073910.GB92531@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009113106.3848a1cb@davenulle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111009113106.3848a1cb@davenulle.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 Subject: Re: need help with pf configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:49:04 -0000 Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > > > > > I need no details, just a general hint how to setup such security > > > > levels, preferably independent of actual IP addressses behind the > > > > interfaces (a :network macro is not always sufficient). > > > > > > You may use urpf-failed instead :network > > > urpf-failed: Any source address that fails a unicast reverse path > > > forwarding (URPF) check, i.e. packets coming in on an interface > > > other than that which holds the route back to the packet's source > > > address. > > > > Excuse me, I do not see how this is relevant to my question (allowing > > traffic to be initiated from a more secure interface to a less secure > > interface and not vice versa). > > Sorry, you can't do this with pf, ipf or ipfw (the 3 firewalls in > FreeBSD). There is no concept of security level at all, you must specify > on each interface the traffic allowed (in input and output). Actually you can with ipfw. The following concise ruleset should do it: check-state permit ip from any to any recv INSIDE xmit DMZ keep-state permit ip from any to any recv INSIDE xmit OUTSIDE keep-state permit ip from any to any recv DMZ xmit OUTSIDE keep-state -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 04:29:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5843C106564A for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4E58FC12 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:29:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so9340719bkb.13 for ; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 21:29:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DvESYzqQxySA+A/se+2eE/O7Y3qe36nR9CMjTMKQjmQ=; b=mLD6pPNEE2CYonQlOAHwQx7kY+LJ5qJNmC73BuFPP7o8IzIbj7AxmNZz9B6ImJHfaw s/A9j3boTi5yOC72J0dWLjAFUW7QLNkJv/0aEUdG82aOFkjqY8KklZ8y2GCiWONqIzdQ 8QLhPhz2kJH4CGugKqNaxBCEe2FVB/a92TVrA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.77.69 with SMTP id f5mr29747575fak.3.1318220995678; Sun, 09 Oct 2011 21:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.96.200 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Oct 2011 21:29:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ipo5x24p.fsf_-_@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> References: <87d3ee5d6y.fsf@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> <87ipo5x24p.fsf_-_@UlanBator.myhome.westell.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:29:55 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "R. Clayton" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: p11-kit port patch fail on 8.2p3. [solved] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:29:57 -0000 On 3 October 2011 16:15, R. Clayton wrote: > > Odd, I find no such file as patch-p11-kit-modules.c here (9.0-BETA3-amd64= ), > either in /usr/ports/distfiles/ or in /usr/ports/security/p11-kit/files/. > > =A0It was in /usr/ports/security/p11-kit/files: > > =A0 =A0# cat /tmp/patch-p11-kit-modules.c > =A0 =A0--- p11-kit/modules.c.orig =A0 =A0 =A02011-09-15 18:15:24.00000000= 0 -0700 > =A0 =A0+++ p11-kit/modules.c =A0 2011-09-15 18:16:27.000000000 -0700 > =A0 =A0@@ -50,11 +50,12 @@ > =A0 =A0 #include > =A0 =A0 #include > =A0 =A0 #include > =A0 =A0+#include > =A0 =A0 #include > =A0 =A0 #include > =A0 =A0 #include > =A0 =A0-#include > =A0 =A0 #include > =A0 =A0+#include > =A0 =A0 #include > =A0 =A0 #include > > =A0 =A0# Yup, the make system automatically tries to apply any patches found in the (relative) files/ directory. Stale files in there are naughty. --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 06:37:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AADA106566C for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 06:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (asmtp5.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE5D8FC16 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 06:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp5.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p9A6bfr5001764; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:37:41 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (host-92-22-130-66.as13285.net [92.22.130.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp5.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p9A6bf6U001754; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:37:41 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ED26F33C1F; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:37:40 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:37:40 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: "Michael D. Norwick" Message-ID: <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 06:37:48 -0000 --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 08:33:01PM -0500, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > > Good Day; >=20 > Since installing FreeBSD 9-beta2 (now 9-beta3) I have not been able to=20 > play a music cd with the dvd writer on this laptop. It is a Dell=20 > Latitude D630. I have built several new worlds and kernels with the=20 > following devices enabled in the kernel config.; >=20 > device scbus # SCSI bus (required for ATA/SCSI) > device ch # SCSI media changers > device atapicam > device da # Direct Access (disks) > device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) > device cd # CD > device pass # Passthrough device (direct ATA/SCSI access) > device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) >=20 > $uname -a >=20 > FreeBSD ****.****.net 9.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 9.0-BETA3 #0: Sat Oct 8=20 > 19:48:29 CDT 2011 =20 > michael@****.****.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL_100811 amd64 >=20 > This kernel was built after a recent csup and portsnap fetch. The=20 > buildworld and buildkernel steps have executed several times without=20 > error. A recent portupgrade only updated a couple of applications. >=20 > dmesg says this; >=20 > cd0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > cd0: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 65534bytes) > cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present= =20 > - tray closed >=20 > and /boot/loader.conf says this; >=20 > linux_load=3D"YES" > atapicam_load=3D"YES" >=20 > With a music CD in the drive /var/log/messages says this; >=20 > Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0= =20 > 0 0 0 0 0 0 40 0 > Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI=20 > Status Error > Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check=20 > Condition > Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL= =20 > REQUEST asc:64,0 (Illegal mode for this track) > Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): cddone: got error=20 > 0x6 back >=20 > and /etc/devfs.conf says this; >=20 > # Commonly used by many ports > #link acd0 cdrom > link cd0 cdrom > own cd0 root:wheel > perm cd0 0660 >=20 > I think I might be missing something in /etc/devfs.conf. man devfs.conf= =20 > or the handbook did not get me any closer to a solution. >=20 > It worked under 8.2 on this machine. >=20 > Thank You for the help. >=20 What does: $ ls -l /dev | grep cd give you? I assume you're a member of wheel. Give cdcontrol(1) a go if the above looks ok. Make sure your volume isn't turned right down! (mixer(1)) Have you checked out that your sound card is configured ok? $ cat /dev/sndstat Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk6SkrMACgkQHduKvUAgeK642QCg0RmIYpCRwO5sGcTFTSyuDMfC 54sAn1/5ty7v3EukoYRuPRNHmyCYlrd0 =nHCf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 07:07:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A499106564A for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BCD8FC17 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:07:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 20883263 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:07:33 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p9A77Xk4024574 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:07:33 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p9A77Xa5024573 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:07:33 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:07:33 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20111010070733.GA23778@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Questions References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009051554.GA91440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009083855.0e9879f6@davenulle.org> <20111009073910.GB92531@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009113106.3848a1cb@davenulle.org> <4E9184D4.50303@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E9184D4.50303@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 Subject: Re: need help with pf configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:07:40 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > >>>> > > > I need no details, just a general hint how to setup such security > >>>> > > > levels, preferably independent of actual IP addressses behind the > >>>> > > > interfaces (a :network macro is not always sufficient). > >>> > > > >>> > > You may use urpf-failed instead :network > >>> > > urpf-failed: Any source address that fails a unicast reverse path > >>> > > forwarding (URPF) check, i.e. packets coming in on an interface > >>> > > other than that which holds the route back to the packet's source > >>> > > address. > >> > > >> > Excuse me, I do not see how this is relevant to my question (allowing > >> > traffic to be initiated from a more secure interface to a less secure > >> > interface and not vice versa). > > Sorry, you can't do this with pf, ipf or ipfw (the 3 firewalls in > > FreeBSD). There is no concept of security level at all, you must specify > > on each interface the traffic allowed (in input and output). > > > > My reply was about the use of the interface:network addresses. > > pf has the concept of packet tagging. So you can write a small rule to > tag traffic crossing eg. your set of internal interfaces and then write > one ruleset to filter all that traffic identified by tag. > > Quoting pf.conf(5): "This can be used, for example, to > provide trust between interfaces and to determine if packets > have been processed by translation rules." I guess the tagging feature can be useful. Thank you for the hint. If I come up with a working ruleset, I'll post it here. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 07:53:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989FD1065670 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C738FC0A for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vcbf13 with SMTP id f13so6178420vcb.13 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:53:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=68BKe+U9Ur92VUsGrLBzS8ySfzIf6w0zNErnKT/8hmo=; b=p24dqbspq/q/UKh29jAfS8lgCVV1rA+AY3HOSmej8We6y6X2rzh38L5l7FfCoU5LiO 2jWasFjH6S0bZKO8VP6IFLtQoeUw6+8WRb5ounSLrbNcf+Z21t0aJj1yXNP7mPWFNvjX 85qy2bknaVxp8sffcdXDs0KzUcz4puokQID0U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.57.11 with SMTP id a11mr1359206vch.4.1318231644979; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.160.197 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:27:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:27:24 +0400 Message-ID: From: Subbsd To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: ruby 1.9 with nonblocking connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:53:27 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to use selenium in ruby (ruby-1.9.2.290_2,1) script, but get an error like this: /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.8.0/lib/selenium/web= driver/common/socket_poller.rb:63:in `connect_nonblock': Invalid argument - connect(2) (Errno::EINVAL) =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.= 8.0/lib/selenium/webdriver/common/socket_poller.rb:63:in `listening?' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.= 8.0/lib/selenium/webdriver/common/socket_poller.rb:23:in `block in connected?' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.= 8.0/lib/selenium/webdriver/common/socket_poller.rb:86:in `with_timeout' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.= 8.0/lib/selenium/webdriver/common/socket_poller.rb:23:in `connected?' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.= 8.0/lib/selenium/webdriver/firefox/launcher.rb:75:in `connect_until_stable' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.= 8.0/lib/selenium/webdriver/firefox/launcher.rb:37:in `block in launch' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.= 8.0/lib/selenium/webdriver/firefox/socket_lock.rb:20:in `locked' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.= 8.0/lib/selenium/webdriver/firefox/launcher.rb:32:in `launch' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.= 8.0/lib/selenium/webdriver/firefox/bridge.rb:19:in `initialize' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.= 8.0/lib/selenium/webdriver/common/driver.rb:29:in `new' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.= 8.0/lib/selenium/webdriver/common/driver.rb:29:in `for' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/1.9/gems/selenium-webdriver-2.= 8.0/lib/selenium/webdriver.rb:81:in `for' =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0from test.rb:8:in `
' at the 63 I see the following line on socket_poller.rb: 62 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0begin 63 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0sock.connect_nonblock sockaddr 64 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0rescue Errno::EINPROGRESS any idea of what could be the reason for such behavior? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 07:59:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C951106566B for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AFF38FC08 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf2 with SMTP id 2so6472677gyf.13 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:59:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Ik+vY2qVbhdJ3dBMMpd4aGJONyG6rYaUUBo9RZU/6gA=; b=CVNCb/Tma9yo6+4k8SkAO4vBPAa/xcpBNWKyoJxT+wYBTJ9+J2JOmBoCT0ktV/p05r l0zVgV05yIME65wbVlCzI7smnQ/i6ERpufaFqWmhIe3Oi1YU7JwhJU1PvtcZuts4LcDy j/74EDxEifV6xeHDpkA9+7oQ6qGhwkjkDFZ6M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.191.103 with SMTP id f67mr21999538yhn.16.1318233576329; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.109.133 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 00:59:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E9187AC.6000006@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4E9187AC.6000006@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:59:36 +0100 Message-ID: From: krad To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: pepe , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: two networks in one server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:59:37 -0000 On 9 October 2011 12:38, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 09/10/2011 10:36, pepe wrote: > > I'm just asking before trying if it possible to use two network uplinks > in > > one server so other would be just backup way in? > > I have currently connection from two ISPs and server is up with one > > connection. Is it possible to add another nic and wire that to connection > > from another isp? So isp 1 would be in normal use in/out, but isp 2 could > be > > used connecting in? > > This is a very commonly asked question around the Internet. > > The answer is -- it's a lot harder to do properly than you might think. > Requires understanding Internet routing protocols like BGP and you will > need the cooperation of both ISPs to make it all work. > > However there is a "light" version which might work for you. Keywords > here are "policy based routing." In this case you can use firewall > software to forward packets by an alternate gateway. This only affects > the outward path from your system: no good at all if all the incoming > traffic is using an uplink that fails, but you can use it to load > balance across multiple links. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > There is a simpler version now in freebsd. You could spawn an additional version of sshd with the setfib command, and have a different default route in the relevant fib table. If you have a bunch of services you need to run like that maybe you could wrap them up in a jail and use the fib on the jail. Have a look at setfib. NOTE: it appears you need to set a compile time option for your kernel "options ROUTETABLES=X" where X is the number of routing tables you require From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 08:10:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A36106566B for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A208A8FC0C for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:10:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 20883291 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:10:54 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p9A7AsH7024629 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:10:54 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p9A7ArVU024628 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:10:54 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru using -f Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:10:53 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20111010071053.GB23778@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Questions References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009051554.GA91440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009083855.0e9879f6@davenulle.org> <20111009073910.GB92531@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4E91890D.7050105@gmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E91890D.7050105@gmx.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 Subject: Re: need help with pf configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:10:58 -0000 Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > >> > >>>I have a configuration with 2 inside interfaces, 1 outside and 1 dmz > >>>interface. The traffic should be able to flow > >>> > >>>1) from inside1 to any (and back) > >>>2) from inside2 to any (and back) > >>>3) from dmz to outside only (and back). > >>> > >>>I need no details, just a general hint how to setup such security > >>>levels, preferably independent of actual IP addressses behind the > >>>interfaces (a :network macro is not always sufficient). > >> > >>You may use urpf-failed instead :network > >>urpf-failed: Any source address that fails a unicast reverse path > >>forwarding (URPF) check, i.e. packets coming in on an interface other > >>than that which holds the route back to the packet's source address. > > > >Excuse me, I do not see how this is relevant to my question (allowing > >traffic to be initiated from a more secure interface to a less secure > >interface and not vice versa). > > > > What if you combine macros and lists? > The ruleset below seems "scalable" to any number of interfaces. > > inside1 = em1 > inside2 = em2 > dmz = em0 > insides = "{" $inside1:network $inside2:network "}" The problem is, there could be several routed networks behind the inside interfaces. Not all inside networks are directly connected, and the :network macro works only for directly connected interfaces, right? -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 09:13:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068E7106564A for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [94.23.254.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8918FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C529AFAA2C87; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:13:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0E62CEC1E; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:16:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:16:32 +0200 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: Victor Sudakov Message-ID: <20111010111632.5a8dfb0b@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <20111010071053.GB23778@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009051554.GA91440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009083855.0e9879f6@davenulle.org> <20111009073910.GB92531@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <4E91890D.7050105@gmx.com> <20111010071053.GB23778@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: need help with pf configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:13:24 -0000 Le Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:10:53 +0700, Victor Sudakov a écrit : > The problem is, there could be several routed networks behind the > inside interfaces. Not all inside networks are directly connected, and > the :network macro works only for directly connected interfaces, > right? Rigth, this is why I suggest urpf-failed instead. Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 09:47:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D161065678 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:47:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnorwick@centurytel.net) Received: from mail960c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail960c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDB58FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:47:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: mnorwick.centurytel.net Received: from bucksnort.norwickhouse.net (174-124-37-123.dyn.centurytel.net [174.124.37.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail960c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p9A9le9V012094 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:47:42 GMT Message-ID: <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 04:47:40 -0500 From: "Michael D. Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110829 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd general questions References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=2xCENBmbyeZn6WhoOoEFpEbLTM7pfi+C5vFXndvBAu0= c=1 sm=1 a=_tW4y8GFV1YA:10 a=eSqDvTon1VwA:10 a=3WPTVEtZbjMA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=nRHtrj2pbMUmV2THcod+iQ==:17 a=rPG9nXhwzxMnZdIqPBkA:9 a=luSlaCM58k4dC73gJLAA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=nRHtrj2pbMUmV2THcod+iQ==:117 Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:47:44 -0000 On 10/10/11 01:37, Frank Shute wrote: > On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 08:33:01PM -0500, Michael D. Norwick wrote: >> Good Day; >> >> Since installing FreeBSD 9-beta2 (now 9-beta3) I have not been able to >> play a music cd with the dvd writer on this laptop. It is a Dell >> Latitude D630. I have built several new worlds and kernels with the >> following devices enabled in the kernel config.; >> >> device scbus # SCSI bus (required for ATA/SCSI) >> device ch # SCSI media changers >> device atapicam >> device da # Direct Access (disks) >> device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) >> device cd # CD >> device pass # Passthrough device (direct ATA/SCSI access) >> device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) >> >> $uname -a >> >> FreeBSD ****.****.net 9.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 9.0-BETA3 #0: Sat Oct 8 >> 19:48:29 CDT 2011 >> michael@****.****.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL_100811 amd64 >> >> This kernel was built after a recent csup and portsnap fetch. The >> buildworld and buildkernel steps have executed several times without >> error. A recent portupgrade only updated a couple of applications. >> >> dmesg says this; >> >> cd0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 >> cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device >> cd0: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 65534bytes) >> cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present >> - tray closed >> >> and /boot/loader.conf says this; >> >> linux_load="YES" >> atapicam_load="YES" >> >> With a music CD in the drive /var/log/messages says this; >> >> Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 >> 0 0 0 0 0 0 40 0 >> Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI >> Status Error >> Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check >> Condition >> Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL >> REQUEST asc:64,0 (Illegal mode for this track) >> Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): cddone: got error >> 0x6 back >> >> and /etc/devfs.conf says this; >> >> # Commonly used by many ports >> #link acd0 cdrom >> link cd0 cdrom >> own cd0 root:wheel >> perm cd0 0660 >> >> I think I might be missing something in /etc/devfs.conf. man devfs.conf >> or the handbook did not get me any closer to a solution. >> >> It worked under 8.2 on this machine. >> >> Thank You for the help. >> > What does: > > $ ls -l /dev | grep cd > > give you? > > I assume you're a member of wheel. > > Give cdcontrol(1) a go if the above looks ok. > > Make sure your volume isn't turned right down! (mixer(1)) > > Have you checked out that your sound card is configured ok? > > $ cat /dev/sndstat > > > Regards, > $ ls -l /dev | grep cd crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 119 Oct 10 04:29 cd0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3 Oct 10 04:29 cdrom -> cd0 $ cdcontrol status Audio status = 21, current track = 1, current position = 0:00.09 Media catalog is active, number "0826663409727\000\013" Left volume = 216, right volume = 216 $ cdcontrol reset cdcontrol: Inappropriate ioctl for device $ cdcontrol play $ cdcontrol status Audio status = 17, current track = 1, current position = 1:05.18 No media catalog info available Left volume = 216, right volume = 216 $ tail /var/log/messages Oct 10 04:30:50 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): cddone: got error 0x6 back Oct 10 04:30:55 bucksnort dbus[1953]: [system] Activated service 'org.freedesktop.SystemToolsBackends.SMBConfig' failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 255 Oct 10 04:30:55 bucksnort dbus[1953]: [system] Activated service 'org.freedesktop.SystemToolsBackends.NFSConfig' failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 255 Oct 10 04:30:56 bucksnort dbus[1953]: [system] Activating service name='org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.DateTimeMechanism' (using servicehelper) Oct 10 04:30:56 bucksnort dbus[1953]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.DateTimeMechanism' Oct 10 04:37:41 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): MODE_SENSE(6) failed, increasing minimum CDB size to 10 bytes Oct 10 04:39:43 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): READ SUB-CHANNEL. CDB: 42 2 40 2 0 0 0 0 18 0 Oct 10 04:39:43 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error Oct 10 04:39:43 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check Condition Oct 10 04:39:43 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:0,11 (Audio play operation in progress) Still will not play. Tried 2 different CD's. Thank You, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 10:44:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861FE106566C for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (asmtp1.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055ED8FC16 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp1.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p9AAipYO027568; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:44:51 +0100 Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (host-92-22-130-66.as13285.net [92.22.130.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp1.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p9AAio15027557; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:44:50 +0100 Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 94F8433C1F; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:44:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 11:44:50 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: "Michael D. Norwick" Message-ID: <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:44:57 -0000 --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 04:47:40AM -0500, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > > On 10/10/11 01:37, Frank Shute wrote: > >On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 08:33:01PM -0500, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > >>Good Day; > >> > >>Since installing FreeBSD 9-beta2 (now 9-beta3) I have not been able to > >>play a music cd with the dvd writer on this laptop. It is a Dell > >>Latitude D630. I have built several new worlds and kernels with the > >>following devices enabled in the kernel config.; > >> > >>device scbus # SCSI bus (required for ATA/SCSI) > >>device ch # SCSI media changers > >>device atapicam > >>device da # Direct Access (disks) > >>device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) > >>device cd # CD > >>device pass # Passthrough device (direct ATA/SCSI access) > >>device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) > >> > >>$uname -a > >> > >>FreeBSD ****.****.net 9.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 9.0-BETA3 #0: Sat Oct 8 > >>19:48:29 CDT 2011 > >>michael@****.****.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL_100811 amd64 > >> > >>This kernel was built after a recent csup and portsnap fetch. The > >>buildworld and buildkernel steps have executed several times without > >>error. A recent portupgrade only updated a couple of applications. > >> > >>dmesg says this; > >> > >>cd0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 > >>cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > >>cd0: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 65534bytes) > >>cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present > >>- tray closed > >> > >>and /boot/loader.conf says this; > >> > >>linux_load=3D"YES" > >>atapicam_load=3D"YES" > >> > >>With a music CD in the drive /var/log/messages says this; > >> > >>Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): READ(10). CDB: 28 0 > >>0 0 0 0 0 0 40 0 > >>Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI > >>Status Error > >>Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check > >>Condition > >>Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL > >>REQUEST asc:64,0 (Illegal mode for this track) > >>Oct 9 20:19:01 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): cddone: got error > >>0x6 back > >> > >>and /etc/devfs.conf says this; > >> > >># Commonly used by many ports > >>#link acd0 cdrom > >>link cd0 cdrom > >>own cd0 root:wheel > >>perm cd0 0660 > >> > >>I think I might be missing something in /etc/devfs.conf. man devfs.conf > >>or the handbook did not get me any closer to a solution. > >> > >>It worked under 8.2 on this machine. > >> > >>Thank You for the help. > >> > >What does: > > > >$ ls -l /dev | grep cd > > > >give you? > > > >I assume you're a member of wheel. > > > >Give cdcontrol(1) a go if the above looks ok. > > > >Make sure your volume isn't turned right down! (mixer(1)) > > > >Have you checked out that your sound card is configured ok? > > > >$ cat /dev/sndstat > > > > > >Regards, > > > $ ls -l /dev | grep cd > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 119 Oct 10 04:29 cd0 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3 Oct 10 04:29 cdrom -> cd0 >=20 > $ cdcontrol status > Audio status =3D 21, current track =3D 1, current position =3D 0:00= .09 > Media catalog is active, number "0826663409727\000\013" > Left volume =3D 216, right volume =3D 216 > $ cdcontrol reset > cdcontrol: Inappropriate ioctl for device > $ cdcontrol play > $ cdcontrol status > Audio status =3D 17, current track =3D 1, current position =3D 1= :05.18 > No media catalog info available > Left volume =3D 216, right volume =3D 216 This looks like it's playing. Is the CD/DVD drive active? >=20 > $ tail /var/log/messages > Oct 10 04:30:50 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): cddone: got error=20 > 0x6 back > Oct 10 04:30:55 bucksnort dbus[1953]: [system] Activated service=20 > 'org.freedesktop.SystemToolsBackends.SMBConfig' failed: Launch helper=20 > exited with unknown return code 255 > Oct 10 04:30:55 bucksnort dbus[1953]: [system] Activated service=20 > 'org.freedesktop.SystemToolsBackends.NFSConfig' failed: Launch helper=20 > exited with unknown return code 255 > Oct 10 04:30:56 bucksnort dbus[1953]: [system] Activating service=20 > name=3D'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.DateTimeMechanism' (using servicehelper) > Oct 10 04:30:56 bucksnort dbus[1953]: [system] Successfully activated=20 > service 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.DateTimeMechanism' > Oct 10 04:37:41 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): MODE_SENSE(6)=20 > failed, increasing minimum CDB size to 10 bytes > Oct 10 04:39:43 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): READ SUB-CHANNEL.=20 > CDB: 42 2 40 2 0 0 0 0 18 0 > Oct 10 04:39:43 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI=20 > Status Error > Oct 10 04:39:43 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): SCSI status: Check=20 > Condition > Oct 10 04:39:43 bucksnort kernel: (cd0:ata0:0:0:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL= =20 > REQUEST asc:0,11 (Audio play operation in progress) Again, looks like it's playing.... >=20 > Still will not play. Tried 2 different CD's. >=20 > Thank You, If the drive is active and you're not getting sound out: What does: $ mixer & $ cat /dev/sndstat show? Regards, --=20 Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk6SzJkACgkQHduKvUAgeK6VCQCggpOmAZ3BeiUjkK36XTCQafeC 3lIAnjs3fKfW+uSi3zVXQE5pWBWqz7zN =rpKw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 13:34:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4E4106566B for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8868FC1B for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:34:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 20891026 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:34:34 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p9ADYXuV031982 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:34:34 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p9ADYXKA031981 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:34:33 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:34:33 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20111010133433.GA31810@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Questions References: <20111008235238.GB3136@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009015141.GA60380@hs1.VERBENA> <20111009051554.GA91440@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009083855.0e9879f6@davenulle.org> <20111009073910.GB92531@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <20111009113106.3848a1cb@davenulle.org> <4E9184D4.50303@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E9184D4.50303@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 Subject: Re: need help with pf configuration X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:34:38 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > >>>> > > > I need no details, just a general hint how to setup such security > >>>> > > > levels, preferably independent of actual IP addressses behind the > >>>> > > > interfaces (a :network macro is not always sufficient). > >>> > > > >>> > > You may use urpf-failed instead :network > >>> > > urpf-failed: Any source address that fails a unicast reverse path > >>> > > forwarding (URPF) check, i.e. packets coming in on an interface > >>> > > other than that which holds the route back to the packet's source > >>> > > address. > >> > > >> > Excuse me, I do not see how this is relevant to my question (allowing > >> > traffic to be initiated from a more secure interface to a less secure > >> > interface and not vice versa). > > Sorry, you can't do this with pf, ipf or ipfw (the 3 firewalls in > > FreeBSD). There is no concept of security level at all, you must specify > > on each interface the traffic allowed (in input and output). > > > > My reply was about the use of the interface:network addresses. > > pf has the concept of packet tagging. So you can write a small rule to > tag traffic crossing eg. your set of internal interfaces and then write > one ruleset to filter all that traffic identified by tag. Thank you again. Tags rule! The following excerpt illustrates the concept I have tested in my lab: pass in on $dmz from any to any tag FROMDMZ pass in on $inside from any to any block out on $inside tagged FROMDMZ The second rule is required to create state for the return traffic to flow from $dmz to $inside. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 15:26:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D309106566B for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DC28FC0A for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so10100674bkb.13 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:26:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CKi6FUPjEcz1zCEhmZUFB+e7y24nD7RplQ9AmKwgX2U=; b=H4ASNB9dtiTtk+inWkVaa4nC6nmrMN57jD3GygPJR+OMFN5h59UndExiV88CZdPFEJ OXa4+HriWePKDGJEDY5qHhoe21n7Y0QK2MchIc0wHQOUDeyYV1ZV4n9tzg1QA0Wa0qAa lTYyQIHuEqJRbGz+ywlz2iLsoIbiTIZdfZ62M= Received: by 10.204.129.207 with SMTP id p15mr6600642bks.34.1318260405401; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (wifi-osiris-sec-181-192.u-strasbg.fr. [130.79.181.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rc12sm18334671bkb.10.2011.10.10.08.26.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E930EA4.9060505@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:26:28 +0200 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111002 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DRI disabled on radeon after a GLX context X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:26:47 -0000 Hello, I realized that sometime DRI is disabled after running a game. In my case, I started games/etracer and shut down the X server. Then when I started X again DRI were disabled : (II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.0 (EE) [drm] Could not set DRM device bus ID. (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. (II) RADEON(0): RADEONRestoreMemMapRegisters() : (II) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION : 0x00df00c0 0x001f0000 (II) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION : 0x003f0000 (==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled (EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration disabled (==) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled (==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) RADEON(0): Textured video requires CP on R5xx/R6xx/R7xx/IGP This is happening sometime with a Radeon 4330 and FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE amd64. Does somebody has this problem too? Cheers, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 15:29:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CBB51065677 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324128FC22 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sbhfislrext02.fnfis.com ([192.168.249.140]) by SCSFISLTC02 (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p9AFTiD2002103; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:29:44 -0500 Received: from sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM (Not Verified[10.132.248.121]) by sbhfislrext02.fnfis.com with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:29:48 -0500 Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.16]) by sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:29:43 -0500 Received: from dtwin (10.14.152.43) by smtp.fisglobal.com (10.132.206.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:29:43 -0500 From: Devin Teske To: "'krad'" , "'Matthew Seaman'" References: <4E9187AC.6000006@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:29:40 -0700 Message-ID: <0d7701cc8761$7132e4c0$5398ae40$@fisglobal.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-index: AQNPf3M5zLvULLDN2CyzAxnFjep95QFymeLgAYBrT8aSWCgZsA== X-Originating-IP: [10.14.152.43] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2011 15:29:43.0664 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F59DF00:01CC8761] Cc: 'pepe' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: two networks in one server? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:29:45 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of krad > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 1:00 AM > To: Matthew Seaman > Cc: pepe; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: two networks in one server? > > On 9 October 2011 12:38, Matthew Seaman > wrote: > > > On 09/10/2011 10:36, pepe wrote: > > > I'm just asking before trying if it possible to use two network > > > uplinks > > in > > > one server so other would be just backup way in? > > > I have currently connection from two ISPs and server is up with one > > > connection. Is it possible to add another nic and wire that to > > > connection from another isp? So isp 1 would be in normal use in/out, > > > but isp 2 could > > be > > > used connecting in? > > > > This is a very commonly asked question around the Internet. > > > > The answer is -- it's a lot harder to do properly than you might think. > > Requires understanding Internet routing protocols like BGP and you > > will need the cooperation of both ISPs to make it all work. > > > > However there is a "light" version which might work for you. Keywords > > here are "policy based routing." In this case you can use firewall > > software to forward packets by an alternate gateway. This only > > affects the outward path from your system: no good at all if all the > > incoming traffic is using an uplink that fails, but you can use it to > > load balance across multiple links. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Matthew > > > > -- > > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > > Flat 3 > > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > > > > > There is a simpler version now in freebsd. You could spawn an additional version > of sshd with the setfib command, and have a different default route in the > relevant fib table. If you have a bunch of services you need to run like that maybe > you could wrap them up in a jail and use the fib on the jail. Have a look at setfib. Yet-another solution would be to use VIMAGE + NETGRAPH. I have a nice rc.d boot script for vimages on the web at: FreeBSD package (installable via pkg_add(8)): http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/download/vimage-1.2.tbz Read more about my vimage script at: http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/vimage.html http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/ NOTE: Requires custom kernel with VIMAGE option enabled (recommended FreeBSD-8.1 or higher). We are successfully running routers as vimage jails on FreeBSD. Each with their own routing. It's a veritable zoo over here with the menagerie of FreeBSD animalia that we're mixing: 1. Running FreeBSD-4.11 i386 vimage on: 1.a. FreeBSD-8.1 i386 host w/ 4GB of RAM 1.b. FreeBSD-8.1 i386 PAE host w/ 12GB of RAM 1.c. FreeBSD-8.1 amd64 host w/ 48GB of RAM 2. Running FreeBSD-8.1 i386 vimage on: 2.a. FreeBSD-8.1 i386 host w/ 4GB of RAM 2.b. FreeBSd-8.1 i386 PAE host w/ 12GB of RAM 2.c. FreeBSD-8.1 amd64 host w/ 48GB of RAM 3. Running FreeBSD-8.1 amd64 vimage on: 3.a. FreeBSD-8.1 amd64 host w/ 48 GB of RAM All vimages run well and all [underlying] hosts can be rebooted cleanly (w/ vimages coming back to-life as-expected). Nearly all vimages are configured with different routing. Multiple vimages running on multiply-separate subnets are also running over the same physical wire on the underlying host (through the power of netgraph). -- Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _____________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 15:33:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C47106566C for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6CC8FC08 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaby12 with SMTP id y12so3323886iab.13 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:33:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=F2qKibRxZ9Kq8v93NTBWw9qr1AwZUyot4WAREiPcHN8=; b=BZhHzQSKpZqr9FuGAFbGiqAWscjIVeTYtQsoR7CfGJT6Df67slaAm1JctuHO1tSmoA f+yavaEMQtgAe7o4z9+0QzgOH+jTXE58FEGNPIU/oumMk/7Y8k3Pb69Cli2VetS5vFOw 8T7Bxe0fpCWNCJLDYIFAq1Ge3l9pJPcFrH6FM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.70.131 with SMTP id d3mr8412492ibj.90.1318260826108; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.136 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 08:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:33:46 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: using /sbin/gpart to add GPT volume X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:33:47 -0000 I have a FreebSD 8.2 machine with 12 1-Tb disks used for making backups. This is RAID6 with 2 volumes 200GB (system) and 8800 GB (for backup data) When this machine was installed (jan 2009), I use standard BSD install to put the system on the 200GB volume Then I used /sbin/gpt then to make the second volume available for freeBSD (since volume 2 is >2Tbyte gpt was needed) The situation is now: Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 2026030 279538 1584410 15% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/da0s1e 20308398 512 18683216 0% /tmp /dev/da0s1f 95727204 9599272 78469756 11% /usr /dev/da0s1d 20308398 1517948 17165780 8% /var /dev/da1p1 8323314852 6484140424 1173309240 85% /home I see /sbin/gpt no longer exists, but has been replaced by /sbin/gpart $ gpart show => 63 390624696 da0 MBR (186G) 63 390620412 1 freebsd [active] (186G) 390620475 4284 - free - (2.1M) => 0 390620412 da0s1 BSD (186G) 0 4194304 1 freebsd-ufs (2.0G) 4194304 104857600 2 freebsd-swap (50G) 109051904 41943040 4 freebsd-ufs (20G) 150994944 41943040 5 freebsd-ufs (20G) 192937984 197682428 6 freebsd-ufs (94G) => 34 17187494333 da1 GPT (8.0T) 34 17187494333 1 freebsd-ufs (8.0T) shows my disks .. I have free slots for extra disks, If I add disks and make a third RAID6 volume (da2) then with gpart I should be able to make a file system of that and mount it e.g. under /home2 via something like: # gpart create -s GPT da2 # gpart add -t efi da2 (type efi is a tytpe where GPT partitioning scheme is used (man gpart)) # gpart show # newfs /dev/da2p1 # mkdir /home2 # mount /dev/da2p1 /home2 (and edit /etc/vfstab for mounting at boot) I just wanted to try that out op a PC (is already a triple boot: OpenSUSE, Windows and FreeBSD 8.2) Using a CD GParted, I freed up some space so that I have an unallocated space of 970 MB and rebooted the machine in FreeBSD # sysinstall / Configure / FDisk shows me: ---------- Disk name: ad0 FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 79780 cyls/16 heads/63 sectors = 80418240 sectors (39266MB) Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 22233897 22233959 ad0s1 4 NTFS/HPFS/QNX 7 22233960 29639736 51873695 ad0s3 8 freebsd 165 51873696 189 51873884 - 12 unused 0 51873885 26539380 78413264 ad0s2 4 extended DOS, LBA 15 78413265 1992060 80405324 ad0s4 4 ext2fs 131 80405325 12915 80418239 - 12 unused 0 ---------- (ad0s1 is my Windows, ad0s3 my freebsd, ad0s2 is my OpenSUSE) ad0s4 is my free space gpart so far shows (nothing created yet in the unallocated space) $ gpart show => 63 80418177 ad0 MBR (38G) 63 22233897 1 ntfs (11G) 22233960 29639736 3 freebsd [active] (14G) 51873696 189 - free - (95K) 51873885 26539380 2 !15 (13G) 78413265 1992060 4 !131 (973M) 80405325 12915 - free - (6.3M) => 0 26539380 ad0s2 EBR (13G) 0 2072385 1 !130 (1.0G) 2072385 18249840 32896 !131 (8.7G) 20322225 6152895 322576 !131 (2.9G) 26475120 64260 - free - (31M) => 0 29639736 ad0s3 BSD (14G) 0 1048576 1 freebsd-ufs (512M) 1048576 1994384 2 freebsd-swap (974M) 3042960 3092480 4 freebsd-ufs (1.5G) 6135440 1048576 5 freebsd-ufs (512M) 7184016 22455720 6 freebsd-ufs (11G) now I try to create # gpart create -s GPT ad0s4 gpart: provider: Device not configured What's wrong? Well, I see that in 2009 when I used /sbin/gpt, I did try that out also on a PC, and then used # gpt create -f /dev/ad0s4 where option -f then meant: an existing MBR is destroyed and any partitions described by the MBR are lost. Must I do a # gpart destroy -F before # gpart create ... or what ? I'm not at all familiar with gpart usage ... and would like neither to screw up my PC, nor screw up my backup-system ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 17:34:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967F1106566B for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arkadietz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D618FC08 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaby12 with SMTP id y12so3491074iab.13 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:34:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gJHyYLCSkuI9Db3+sgQ2Pxpta0OiEhqGuTqJZI21wVw=; b=rAOf/HRd+T4iPsoFpOQa7R97Q+QoW+1NdalsTaFq8YPu5b9AqF1ncjoufVtLNBqVSE jP5myr+LiOr1kMrs9t1FjrlV4FsHzGe9XGEwBthI5vsR4VczWnfdKQM1B7JRWGnBaGsQ Na5AN1vfNC6nts0QvMK/XPRHetuce9g9Npl4k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.47.202 with SMTP id o10mr8958624ibf.2.1318266417218; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.44.203 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 10:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:06:57 +0300 Message-ID: From: Kiril Georgiev To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:39:59 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:34:47 -0000 Hi, is it possible to make me a subdomain ( A HOST ) by type kiril.FreeBSD.org -- *On a unix system everything is a file ; if something is not a file , it's a proccess. * From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 18:14:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07C8106564A for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:14:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F37C8FC0C for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20111010181401.LWAT12239.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:14:01 -0400 Received: from serene.no-ip.org ([98.164.86.236]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id j6Dx1h00R55wwzE026E0UK; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:14:01 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020A.4E9335E9.0102,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=oaIW6hvuqrvZuBstGxzMQDCn9/QU+BfQ2mb81G/9NAc= c=1 sm=1 a=fahu9-ItEukA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:17 a=D7rCoLxHAAAA:8 a=XFqhHgK-AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=8-CxD-EYMVz0WLzClTwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=lzMc082ZMwYA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=uAbGmPAyUfLL1M3oYAsfuA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from cox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by serene.no-ip.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p9AIDuNL076001 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:13:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from conrads@cox.net) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:13:51 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111010131351.4b452741@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <201110090933.41543.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <4E900B3F.9010400@comcast.net> <20111008191614.27d9e7b0@cox.net> <201110090933.41543.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: pkg_upgrade seems to try server that isn't right X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:14:08 -0000 On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 09:33:41 +0100 Mike Clarke wrote: > On Sunday 09 October 2011, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: >=20 > > I assume you mean "pkg_upgrade" (not "upgrade_pkg")? > > > > See the "ENVIRONMENT" section of the man page. =C2=A0All of the pkg_* > > tools are consistent in how they reference these variables. >=20 > There isn't a pkg_upgrade in the base system and I'm not aware of one > in ports either but I'm open to correction. There is a python script,=20 > pkgupgrade, developed by Michel Talon which might meet the OP's needs=20 > . Alternatively the OP could use=20 > either portmaster or portupgrade from ports, both of these can be=20 > forced to use packages instead of building from source by using the > -P or -PP options. >=20 Whoops. My mistake: $ pkg_which `which pkg_upgrade` bsdadminscripts-6.1.1_1 Forgot that was from ports, not base. --=20 Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 18:17:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770FE106564A for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:17:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BBF8FC14 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p9AIHGeg002586 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:17:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p9AIHGeg002586 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1318270636; bh=lFyGUa/ElcTdS5APObtBIYinaWS+3TC+wcGZULfZwdE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E9336A4.8020903@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20M on,=2010=20Oct=202011=2019:17:08=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:7.0.1)=20Gecko/2 0110929=20Thunderbird/7.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20freebsd-ques tions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20question|References:=20|In- Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.2|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE9 08C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D= 0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D "------------enig11BF6FA74BF6C363C54BE558"; b=PFN96H8gkcIw9ADSmDbhtYvSfGgJAsJi2I6D0qYxDlZOHN1/0ZOVq32qm8qBuzinH LLAKDc7Z4u2lO1TR2nKq0X0B36+Dq7MaB3UYJ9Os1YCvHimvPyHBhjwCgSJ9BNCDTD +K0zeRyX6QQGcLG+sqoZvGUJuQzqWed3ByIFEDjY= Message-ID: <4E9336A4.8020903@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:17:08 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig11BF6FA74BF6C363C54BE558" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:17:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig11BF6FA74BF6C363C54BE558 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/10/2011 18:06, Kiril Georgiev wrote: > Hi, is it possible to make me a subdomain ( A HOST ) by type > kiril.FreeBSD.org What benefit would that bring to the FreeBSD project? Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig11BF6FA74BF6C363C54BE558 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6TNqsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzVggCeJgd5mJ7/loQSjcLeUKKTH9+d rFQAn1OVZVqacrDpE4hdFePZR8osYGta =FPkY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig11BF6FA74BF6C363C54BE558-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 10 21:15:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC5B1065673 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1038FC12 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so10510246bkb.13 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:15:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mWzBTA667r8qbCbWVjdMWqX8jCQFvpagcuY5IABJzis=; b=vTuaVMwX8c3f+AVpLYbhqgu6zKCYx/9lJFiEjZUXfW/q8/pP5fb9+hpygAkBk13mYD egBF5Rjbl0jMDbKUnCrXGs14jd2oEl8GqUjfg2jTJwj7y7EiAhLMHTSPr/qky0HiBveK pzO/pROJ4wN2lsqgX3rbQJ5n6/TqsvRXQgl7w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.77.69 with SMTP id f5mr34761764fak.3.1318281303017; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.96.200 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:15:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:15:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: n dhert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: using /sbin/gpart to add GPT volume X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:15:04 -0000 On 10 October 2011 11:33, n dhert wrote: > I have a FreebSD 8.2 machine with 12 1-Tb disks used for making backups. > now I try to create > # gpart create -s GPT ad0s4 > gpart: provider: Device not configured (NB I do not have a multi-boot system with an MBR scheme on it, so I'm not clear on the pre- cise details) You want some variation of # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs ad0[s4] "create" is for the disk-wise scheme "add" is for the individual slices/partitions Again, I haven't played with gpart on an MBR disk, so be careful. Aso, if you're muddling with the boot disk, you may have to work in single-user mode. -- -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 01:07:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4F2106564A for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@tigris.org) Received: from sc157-tigr.sjc.collab.net (sc157.sjc.collab.net [204.16.104.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90AF48FC13 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sc157-tigr.sjc.collab.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sc157-tigr.sjc.collab.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F0754009F for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 17:51:10 -0700 (PDT) From: admin@subversion.tigris.org To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1318294270144@subversion.tigris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Notice about your recent message to dev-help@subversion.tigris.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:07:43 -0000 We are sorry, but this discussion does not exist. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 01:30:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F16106564A for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:30:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@top-consulting.net) Received: from smtp3.emailarray.com (smtp3.emailarray.com [65.39.216.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6348FC0A for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:30:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 13780 invoked by uid 89); 11 Oct 2011 01:30:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (freebsd@top-consulting.net@192.168.1.6) (POLARISLOCAL) by smtp3.emailarray.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 11 Oct 2011 01:30:25 -0000 Received: from ns4.top-consulting.net (ns4.top-consulting.net [65.39.216.2]) by mail.top-consulting.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:30:24 -0400 Message-ID: <20111010213024.16895xplcwm1p7ok@mail.top-consulting.net> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:30:24 -0400 From: freebsd@top-consulting.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) X-Originating-IP: 65.39.216.2 X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Mon Oct 10 21:30:26 2011 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.9905 X-DSPAM-Improbability: 1 in 10429 chance of being spam X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-DSPAM-Signature: 1,4e939c3211841399311352 X-DSPAM-Factors: 27, FreeBSD, 0.00441, FreeBSD, 0.00441, this+error, 0.00598, idem, 0.01000, NFS+server, 0.01000, Subject*removing, 0.01000, Beta2, 0.01000, FreeBSD+6, 0.01000, a+NFS, 0.01000, NFS, 0.01000, NFS, 0.01000, Subject*empty, 0.01000, =+2, 0.01000, Rename, 0.01000, FreeBSD+9, 0.01000, O_NONBLOCK, 0.01000, is+empty, 0.01000, on+FreeBSD, 0.01000, rpcbind, 0.01000, chmod, 0.01000, lockd, 0.01000, directory+that, 0.01000, =+19, 0.01000, NFS+share, 0.01000, "+2), 0.01000, this+?, 0.01000, Read+Write, 0.01000 X-PolarisMail-Flags: x Subject: Problems removing non-empty directory through NFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:30:28 -0000 I have a NFS server configured on FreeBSD 9.0 Beta2 that only serves a share through NFS v3 TCP. All the processes ( mountd, rpcbind, lockd, etc ) are started with -h on both the server and the clients. The NFS clients range from FreeBSD 6.1 to 8.2. On all the clients, it is impossible for me to erase a directory that contains other data and is from that NFS share. I get this error: rm -rf nick/ rm: fts_read: Input/output error same is true if I give the full path: rm -rf /usr/nfs.mount/nick rm: fts_read: Input/output error if the directory is empty, I can use rm -rf or rmdir without problems. Besides this I can read all the files, erase files, chmod, chown, etc without any problem. I just can't erase directories. Running a truss on the rm -rf shows ( towards the end ): lseek(4,0x0,SEEK_SET) = 0 (0x0) close(4) = 0 (0x0) stat("new",{mode=drwx------ ,inode=53090640,size=512,blksize=4096}) = 0 (0x0) open("new",O_NONBLOCK,027757765430) = 4 (0x4) fstat(4,{mode=drwx------ ,inode=53090640,size=512,blksize=4096}) = 0 (0x0) fcntl(4,F_SETFD,FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 (0x0) fstatfs(0x4,0xbfbfe8c0) = 0 (0x0) fstat(4,{mode=drwx------ ,inode=53090640,size=512,blksize=4096}) = 0 (0x0) fchdir(0x4) = 0 (0x0) getdirentries(0x4,0x8051000,0x1000,0x8050014) = 512 (0x200) getdirentries(0x4,0x8051000,0x1000,0x8050014) = 0 (0x0) lseek(4,0x0,SEEK_SET) = 0 (0x0) close(4) = 0 (0x0) open("..",O_RDONLY,00) = 4 (0x4) fstat(4,{mode=drwx------ ,inode=53090635,size=512,blksize=4096}) = 0 (0x0) fchdir(0x4) = 0 (0x0) close(4) = 0 (0x0) rmdir(0x80525a8) = 0 (0x0) unlink("dovecot.index.log") = 0 (0x0) unlink("dovecot.index.cache") = 0 (0x0) unlink("dovecot-uidlist") = 0 (0x0) unlink("dovecot.index.log.2") = 0 (0x0) unlink("dovecot.index") = 0 (0x0) open("..",O_RDONLY,00) ERR#5 'Input/output error' rm: write(2,"rm: ",4) = 4 (0x4) fts_readwrite(2,"fts_read",8) = 8 (0x8) : write(2,": ",2) = 2 (0x2) Input/output error write(2,"Input/output error\n",19) = 19 (0x13) exit(0x1) process exit, rval = 256 There are no errors visible on the server. Here is the output of nfsstat on the server: Server Info: Getattr Setattr Lookup Readlink Read Write Create Remove 107929047 19257084 240622998 121 11209701 19004949 0 8754163 Rename Link Symlink Mkdir Rmdir Readdir RdirPlus Access 4115334 1108983 38 1845 15557465 14771644 0 110311954 Mknod Fsstat Fsinfo PathConf Commit 0 4492462 47 0 14146384 Server Ret-Failed 0 Server Faults 0 Server Cache Stats: Inprog Idem Non-idem Misses 0 0 0 579078451 Server Write Gathering: WriteOps WriteRPC Opsaved 19004949 19004949 0 Anyone has any ideas what might be causing this ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 03:01:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE86F106564A for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 03:01:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ndhertbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CE58FC1F for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 03:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaby12 with SMTP id y12so4140520iab.13 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:00:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eUg1B87RjOJN3lmgzriVk40QnUaW8hppHCtnH4pslFY=; b=YmC0bZKPa3JHNHQx9ITGYXPsReGEpCft9msmkaPvM3Z0/E/jB0pB5CzeE3tJIhvFT5 TzsdQ1gBfckfzNwUFOKhkYNEkuEgI+JRQMRYBdLczaIWqeNYwo0kHeg74sJSEoQKcit7 NSRKRK6+AuNy6wBK+u385kl8wFEAlHAt29QcM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.83.199 with SMTP id g7mr9212328ibl.78.1318302059845; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.136 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:00:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:00:59 +0200 Message-ID: From: n dhert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: using /sbin/gpart to add GPT volume X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 03:01:00 -0000 In jan 2009 when /sbin/gpt still existed, this is what I did on a multi-boot test PC, after creatng unallocated spac, booting into my freebsd partition: # sysinstall Disk name: ad0 FDISK Partition Editor DISK Geometry: 5005 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 80405325 sectors (39260MB) Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 29414952 29415014 ad0s1 4 NTFS/HPFS/QNX 7 29415015 3116610 32531624 ad0s4 4 ext2fs 131 32531625 62 32531686 - 12 unused 0 32531687 14313853 46845539 ad0s3 8 freebsd 165 46845540 33559785 80405324 ad0s2 4 extended DOS, LBA 15 80405325 12915 80418239 - 12 unused 0 ad0s4 was the unallocated space # gpt create -f /dev/ad0s4 # gpt show /dev/ad0s4 start size index contents 0 1 PMBR 1 1 Pri GPT header 2 32 Pri GPT table 34 3116543 3116577 32 Sec GPT table 3116609 1 Sec GPT header # gpt add /dev/ad0s4 /dev/ad0s4p1 added # gpt show /dev/ad0s4 start size index contents 0 1 PMBR 1 1 Pri GPT header 2 32 Pri GPT table 34 3116543 1 GPT part - FreeBSD UFS/UFS2 3116577 32 Sec GPT table 3116609 1 Sec GPT header # newfs /dev/ad0s4p1 # mkdir /ghome # mount /dev/ad0s4p1 /ghome # df -k Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s3a 380654 170430 179772 49% / devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev /dev/ad0s3e 317166 56 291738 0% /tmp /dev/ad0s3f 5144698 3167822 1565302 67% /usr /dev/ad0s3d 571118 28080 497350 5% /var /dev/ad0s4p1 1504908 4 1384512 0% /ghome My problem is, what are the equivalent instructions using gpart ??? 2011/10/10 illoai@gmail.com > On 10 October 2011 11:33, n dhert wrote: > > I have a FreebSD 8.2 machine with 12 1-Tb disks used for making backups. > > now I try to create > > # gpart create -s GPT ad0s4 > > gpart: provider: Device not configured > > (NB I do not have a multi-boot system with an > MBR scheme on it, so I'm not clear on the pre- > cise details) > You want some variation of > # gpart add -t freebsd-ufs ad0[s4] > > "create" is for the disk-wise scheme > "add" is for the individual slices/partitions > > Again, I haven't played with gpart on an MBR disk, > so be careful. > > Aso, if you're muddling with the boot disk, you may > have to work in single-user mode. > > -- > -- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 09:06:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7640106566C for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62FC8FC08 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:45:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Comment: Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum requirements X-Comment: Date has been added by Maillennium Received: from localhost (adsl-68-210-187-7.sdf.bellsouth.net[68.210.187.7]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20111011084527H0100n3kh2e>; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:45:28 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.210.187.7] From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: Message-Id: <20111011090638.D7640106566C@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: n dhert Subject: Re: using /sbin/gpart to add GPT volume X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:06:38 -0000 I don't think you can use gpart on a slice of an MBR-partitioned disk. You can run "man gpart" if you didn't already; I didn't see anything to migrate an MBR partition table to GPT. The older gpt, which NetBSD still uses, can migrate an MBR partition table to GPT. You could try Roderick Smith's gdisk http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/ which is found, among other places, on the System Rescue CD http://sysrescccd.org/ also in sysutils/gdisk in FreeBSD ports tree. Rod Smith's gdisk can make a wider variety of partition types than gpt or gpart, and can also migrate an MBR partition table to GPT. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 09:21:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DEC2106564A for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:21:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimbo433@msn.com) Received: from col0-omc4-s10.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc4-s10.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20E2F8FC14 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from COL113-W36 ([65.55.34.201]) by col0-omc4-s10.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:09:39 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [80.61.233.154] From: Jim jim To: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:09:40 +0200 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2011 09:09:39.0983 (UTC) FILETIME=[81B609F0:01CC87F5] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: can't find installed executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:21:42 -0000 Hallo=2C I'm kind of new to FreeBSD and installed the latest version a few days ago= =2C it gave me the option to install some packages and I chose some of them= like 'FlightGear' for example.But now I don't know how to execute this gam= e or any other program I got installed. I can find the folder and it's like= /usr/ports/games/flightgear but there is the Makefile so I think that is t= he installation folder and i also tried to install it but than it shows me = that it is already installed.Could you tell me which one is the executable = and how to run it or where I can find it? Hope you can help me with this. Yours Sincerely Jim van Dooren. = From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 09:49:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FC91065675 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdlisten@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D98A8FC12 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so11290459bkb.13 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:49:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/VX+mqpEucZTdp6BzRs+GbTkLmU3E4weeNwzSOu8Hro=; b=uIq+7DUFzsjlUAHIIivo9OcN4qBZRPWT0pRVUSOpyS740beFojqN+xSe3VYPzNkSXs 8q+maeInnVqu/333T3jxjzVB7ZeGD9MJZiL9xPiCivCms/KectMJ9VxQIZGm9ashqkDA kg8P191pP8LlANU3UJZflg0G90xioHrCpLfhE= Received: by 10.204.156.141 with SMTP id x13mr2680923bkw.54.1318326568332; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debiand1.localdom.ain ([89.47.83.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k26sm20545041bks.1.2011.10.11.02.49.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 02:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:49:19 +0300 From: Rares Aioanei To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111011124919.176e905e@debiand1.localdom.ain> In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: my user agent X-Mailer: my x-mailer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: can't find installed executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:49:30 -0000 On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:09:40 +0200 Jim jim wrote: > > Hallo, > I'm kind of new to FreeBSD and installed the latest version a few days ago, it gave me the option to install some packages and I chose some of them like 'FlightGear' for example.But now I don't know how to execute this game or any other program I got installed. I can find the folder and it's like /usr/ports/games/flightgear but there is the Makefile so I think that is the installation folder and i also tried to install it but than it shows me that it is already installed.Could you tell me which one is the executable and how to run it or where I can find it? > Hope you can help me with this. > Yours Sincerely > Jim van Dooren. Try 'rehash' from the terminal. (T)csh users need that. -- Rares Aioanei From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 10:01:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4721065670 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C238FC18 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:01:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:51:08 +0200 Message-ID: <4E941189.4070903@ose.nl> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:51:05 +0200 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110627 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freeBSD Questions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: can't find installed executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:01:13 -0000 On 10/11/2011 11=3A09 AM=2C Jim jim wrote=3A =3E Hallo=2C =3E I=27m kind of new to FreeBSD and installed the latest version a few day= s ago=2C it gave me the option to install some packages and I chose some of= them like =27FlightGear=27 for example=2EBut now I don=27t know how to exe= cute this game or any other program I got installed=2E I can find the folde= r and it=27s like /usr/ports/games/flightgear but there is the Makefile so= I think that is the installation folder and i also tried to install it but= than it shows me that it is already installed=2ECould you tell me which on= e is the executable and how to run it or where I can find it=3F =3E Hope you can help me with this=2E =3E Yours Sincerely =3E Jim van Dooren=2E=20 Hi Jim=2C Ports =28and packages=29 are installed under /usr/local For Flightgear for example in de ports directory you mention /usr/ports/games/flightgear there is a file pkg-plist which contains a list= of files that are installed by this port=2E If you have done a rehash after= installing then the binary should be found in your path=2E Good luck=2E This e-mail is for the intended recipient=28s=29 only=2E Access=2C disclosu= re=2C copying=2C distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited=2E If yo= u have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system= =2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 10:06:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541161065688 for ; 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z=Message-ID:=20<4E941515.1030400@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2011=20Oct=202011=2011:06:13=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:7.0.1)=20Gecko/2 0110929=20Thunderbird/7.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20Jim=20jim=20 |CC:=20questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20ca n't=20find=20installed=20executables|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.3.2|OpenPGP:=20i d=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sh a1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20bo undary=3D"------------enigFA4F034735B72975423430E8"; b=cAmgzkvIQPagV5jm6QG0J9dVeT0dVsUbz0Kwqi3kSIILQU18PAZ1Qahdp4Frh4thh CTK9qfgPw2aTfz4kkgH0dtTFun1SDPM0pSqHWju6Jcetr0gUKlbqiHkDT+FQpitYAU k7+h4RdWKrQGg+pRan2sCLBi7kqJUWKEWyjMqRig= Message-ID: <4E941515.1030400@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:06:13 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim jim References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFA4F034735B72975423430E8" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't find installed executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:06:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFA4F034735B72975423430E8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/10/2011 10:09, Jim jim wrote: > I'm kind of new to FreeBSD and installed the latest version a few > days ago, it gave me the option to install some packages and I chose > some of them like 'FlightGear' for example.But now I don't know how > to execute this game or any other program I got installed. I can find > the folder and it's like /usr/ports/games/flightgear but there is the > Makefile so I think that is the installation folder and i also tried > to install it but than it shows me that it is already installed.Could > you tell me which one is the executable and how to run it or where I > can find it? We all had to begin somewhere. As a general principle, if you don't know how to do something, first check the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ Also, the usual regime of Googling and so forth. If you're still mystified, then feel free to ask here. Now, for your specific question. /usr/ports/games/flightgear is not the location of the software you installed. Rather it is a set of instructions for how to download, build and install that particular software. FlightGear is a bit tricky in that the programs you need to run don't have names anything like the package itself, as you might expect. You can tell this by looking at the file /usr/ports/games/flightgear/pkg-plist which is a list of the files that package installs. Not all ports have a simple pkg-plist file like that, so alternatively you could run: pkg_info -lx flightgear | less (most, but not all, portnames are lower-case) Now, which of those to run? This port installs some manual pages. I'd try reading fgfs(1) and fgjs(1) -- which means read the manual page for fgfs from section 1 of the manual. ie type this: man 1 fgfs Well, '1' is the default actually, so you could miss that bit out and still achieve the desired effect. There can be occasions where you need to specify it --- compare printf(1) with printf(3) for example. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigFA4F034735B72975423430E8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6UFRsACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzDzwCgkYXgOAMTW5e6d0QBl1J2hynS GikAoIza4KwtazDkvT3QKo/3El1pTaID =0hHI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFA4F034735B72975423430E8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 13:57:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8DC1065670 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BB88FC15 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-66.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.66]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8FB1E143 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:57:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9BDvoZi001930 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:57:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:57:50 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20111011155750.2f70109d.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: User tasks in ~/.logout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:57:52 -0000 I have some users who I want to "schedule" a specific job for which gets executed on their user account. For some of them, it will be twice a day, for others just once a month. It should happen at logout time. The intended mechanism to do so is ~/.logout, the C shell's logout script. Example: The user quits his work (shell "exit" or ending a custom program that is executed by the shell), now the ~/.logout shoult be executed, e. g. copying his current datasets to "immediate backup" (or other means of processing). I assume I cannot use this approach when the user runs his specific program _as_ the shell (per /etc/passwd), but that's not a problem now, as it's easier to give a regular shell and use ~/.login to "auto-exec" the user-specific program). My question is: As users connect to the system per SSH, how much time will the "at logout time" process have to finish work, or does it work _any_ time after the user has (1st) logged out and (2nd) terminated SSH connection (e. g. disconnect from SSH CLI client or PuTTY)? Will such a ~/.logout job finish even if the user closes his connection right after logout? And just in case a user does not properly log out (e. g. closes PuTTY right from the open session, maybe from within the program or shell he currently runs), will this cause ~/.logout to be processed, or will it be a "stale connection"? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 14:06:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63851065676 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:06:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5DA8FC22 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-66.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.66]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1221E7A1 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:06:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9BE6JL0001952 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:06:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:06:19 +0200 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Turning system accounting data into money X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:06:20 -0000 This is _not_ a spam message trying to sell something stupid to the list. I'm just searching for a solution to turn consumed computing resources into a number and a currency symbol. :-) Reason: A growing amount of (my) customers seems to like this concept: They speed a low fee for access to systems and applications, and they want to pay according to what they did with that system. The access fee covers access and some basic services (backup & quota), and for anything "more advanced" they want to be charged per "units" used, or per "consumed resources". This can be dialog time (SSH), disk I/O, disk occupied, pages printed (can happen) or pages required to print on exceptional specific forms (can happen once or twice a year and is charged with an additional fee for fold, staple & mutilate). Sounds stupid? I have _real_ customers intendedly requesting that payment model (instead of "just pay amount n Euro a month and do whatever you like"). Accidentally, I remembered history. So I thought: This funcitonality has been present on UNIX systems for many decades. But _how_ to use it? I know there's the command set for accounting, for example the "ac" command. But what does its output "total 7264.15" mean? There also are "acct" (process accounting), "sa" (for system accounting) and "pac" (for printer accounting, just dooesn't seem to work with CUPS). I'd also like to use the /etc/csh.logout resp. ~/.logout mechanism. When a user logs in, he will be presented the program he uses (or a menu, in case he uses different ones). This can also be a regular "remote desktop" session. When he logs out, a message should be displayed that informs him how much will be charged for the session. At the end of the month, he should get an invoice with the proper accumulated amount. For example, if a user wishes to issue a "make a backup _now_, because I intendedly want _this_ current state backed up _now_", this will be seen as additional I/O load and disk occupation (because it's handled aside of the regular backup runs that should be part of the "basic package" charged with the "conneciton fee"). Or as I said, he issues printing for stuff he cannot print at home, so he will be charged for 500 pages. And in case he transfers 10 GB data in, and 10 GB data out, he will be charged for that traffic, as well as for the I/O. The sessions in questions will be SSH sessions (text mode) as well as SSH/X sessions (remote desktops). Maybe someone already uses something similar he wants to share? Suggestions and inspirations are welcome. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 14:26:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 365BE1065673 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F3B8FC19 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so11088240wyj.13 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.59.212 with SMTP id m20mr7874828wbh.59.1318343161800; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e7sm6270232wbh.12.2011.10.11.07.25.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 07:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E9451F6.7020800@my.gd> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:25:58 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20111011155750.2f70109d.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111011155750.2f70109d.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: User tasks in ~/.logout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:26:03 -0000 On 10/11/11 3:57 PM, Polytropon wrote: > I have some users who I want to "schedule" a specific job > for which gets executed on their user account. For some > of them, it will be twice a day, for others just once a > month. It should happen at logout time. > > The intended mechanism to do so is ~/.logout, the C shell's > logout script. > > Example: The user quits his work (shell "exit" or ending > a custom program that is executed by the shell), > now the ~/.logout shoult be executed, e. g. copying his > current datasets to "immediate backup" (or other means of > processing). > > I assume I cannot use this approach when the user runs > his specific program _as_ the shell (per /etc/passwd), > but that's not a problem now, as it's easier to give > a regular shell and use ~/.login to "auto-exec" the > user-specific program). > > My question is: As users connect to the system per SSH, > how much time will the "at logout time" process have to > finish work, or does it work _any_ time after the user > has (1st) logged out and (2nd) terminated SSH connection > (e. g. disconnect from SSH CLI client or PuTTY)? > > Will such a ~/.logout job finish even if the user closes > his connection right after logout? > > And just in case a user does not properly log out (e. g. > closes PuTTY right from the open session, maybe from within > the program or shell he currently runs), will this cause > ~/.logout to be processed, or will it be a "stale connection"? > > I would suggest creating a dummy script that simply echoes the date to a file. Test your different scenarios, see if your file was written to correctly. If that works, insert a delay in your script, for example sleep 20. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 14:28:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E523106564A for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FB28FC0A for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nber6.nber.org (nber6.nber.org [66.251.72.76]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9BES8gk087562; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:28:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from localhost (feenberg@localhost) by nber6.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p9BERDm6027246; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:27:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: nber6.nber.org: feenberg owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:27:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg X-X-Sender: feenberg@nber6 To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20111011155750.2f70109d.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20111011155750.2f70109d.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20111011 #5530008, check: 20111011 clean Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: User tasks in ~/.logout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:28:13 -0000 On Tue, 11 Oct 2011, Polytropon wrote: > I have some users who I want to "schedule" a specific job > for which gets executed on their user account. For some > of them, it will be twice a day, for others just once a > month. It should happen at logout time. > > The intended mechanism to do so is ~/.logout, the C shell's > logout script. > If the user doesn't want to wait for the script to complete for the session to end, you could start the script with a call to "batch" or "at". The shell documentation claims that .logout executes whenever the shell exits, so your script should execute even if the user neglects to properly log out, however I haven't experimented with that. Are you sure you wouldn't be better off with a cron job? Is it that you don't want the script running while the user is logged in? Dan Feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 14:39:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E88106566B for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA81A8FC14 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-66.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.66]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F951E5EB; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:39:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9BEdIRp003130; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:39:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:39:18 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Feenberg Message-Id: <20111011163918.711dd55e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20111011155750.2f70109d.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: User tasks in ~/.logout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:39:20 -0000 On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:27:13 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Feenberg wrote: > > > On Tue, 11 Oct 2011, Polytropon wrote: > > > I have some users who I want to "schedule" a specific job > > for which gets executed on their user account. For some > > of them, it will be twice a day, for others just once a > > month. It should happen at logout time. > > > > The intended mechanism to do so is ~/.logout, the C shell's > > logout script. > > > > If the user doesn't want to wait for the script to complete for the > session to end, you could start the script with a call to "batch" or "at". Ah thanks, good idea! And concluded: Why not use detach? It's a program that allows to run programs "detached" from a controlling terminal - the thing that disappears at logout time. :-) Oh, and even the OS brings such a tool - "daemon", just found its manpage. I will compare both and see. Thanks, your inspiration seems to do the trick. Still, completition time should be minimal (less than 10 seconds I think), so it wouldn't be _that_ complicated. The only thing is to educate users to _properly_ close the connection so I don't end up with "stale connections", e. g. in "top" or "w" output, login shells running with nobody at the other end. > The shell documentation claims that .logout executes whenever the shell > exits, so your script should execute even if the user neglects to properly > log out, however I haven't experimented with that. Maybe it's also good to make a timeout setting for that shell, e. g. inactivity for 30 minutes causes connection to be closed properly, including a "valid" shell exit. Situations like "the shell never exists" or "the shell exits accidentally when the user logs in for the next time" would be unpleasant. > Are you sure you wouldn't be better off with a cron job? Is it that you > don't want the script running while the user is logged in? Yes, this is _one_ aspect. The other one is to create things like backup sets depending on user interactivity. For those who do two sessions per day, have two backup files per day. For those only doing one session per month, only this backup set will be used. This means that every "session state" (last one, the one of yesterday, the one of last month) can be restored. Typical scenario... okay, I don't know if it's typical, but a good example: User logs in, enters data. Fine. Logs in later again, deletes data. Night comes, backup runs. Next day: "I need my data of yesterday morning, where is it?" -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 14:41:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEA61065670 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232D68FC17 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p9BEdfBE094325; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:39:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p9BEdf5I094324; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:39:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:39:41 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Jim jim Message-ID: <20111011143941.GE94093@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't find installed executables X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:41:29 -0000 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:09:40AM +0200, Jim jim wrote: Jim, First, just a politeness thing; please break your lines at about 72 character length. It helps in reading and responding to your questions. Most Email clients allow you to set a line length. > > Hallo, > I'm kind of new to FreeBSD and installed the latest version a few days ago, it gave me the option to install some packages and I chose some of them like 'FlightGear' for example.But now I don't know how to execute this game or any other program I got installed. I can find the folder and it's like /usr/ports/games/flightgear but there is the Makefile so I think that is the installation folder and i also tried to install it but than it shows me that it is already installed.Could you tell me which one is the executable and how to run it or where I can find it? > Hope you can help me with this. Besides the comments that some others have made, you might want to learn about which(1), although in the case of flightgear it might not have helped much because the installed name is a bit hard to guess from the name of the port. But, most binaries pretty much follow the name of the port. That 'rehash' is also important. When you first start a csh or tcsh shell, it sets up a known picture of where things it knows about live. If you add something, it will ot know about it until something happens to cause it to remake its list. The Rehash command will do that. Run it before running the which. ////jerry > Yours Sincerely > Jim van Dooren. _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 15:28:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014391065673 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:28:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arpouncey@ualr.edu) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD628FC14 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so10229766wwe.31 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.38.200 with SMTP id c8mr7723413wbe.101.1318345275187; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:01:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.95.36 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 08:00:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Alton Pouncey Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:00:45 -0500 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: comms/qpage port issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:28:46 -0000 I am having a serious problem with the comms/qpage port. I was running on an 8.2-RELEASE patch level 0 system: #uname -a FreeBSD dns.uasys.edu 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 18 02:24:46 UTC 2011 When I tried to send myself a page via qpage, I get a "Fatal error, aborting" message to STDOUT and the following message gets put into the /var/log/messages file: dns qpage[16399]: stack overflow detected; terminated dns kernel: pid 16399 (qpage), uid 66: exited on signal 6 I ran a truss on the qpage command (/usr/local/bin/qpage -dp arpouncey "qpage test on 10/10/11") and see that after a socket is created, nothing further happens, as if it can't connect to the socket. I applied the latest security patches to the system and am now running at patch level 3: #uname -a FreeBSD dns.uasys.edu 8.2-RELEASE-p3 FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p3 #0: Tue Sep 27 18:07:27 UTC 2011 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 and I have removed the qpage package and reinstalled it via "make install clean" However, when I run the same qpage command: #/usr/local/bin/qpage -dp arpouncey "qpage test on 10/11/11" I still get: Fatal error, aborting >>> QUIT Fatal error, aborting on STDOUT and these messages get written to the /var/log/messages file: dns qpage[17370]: stack overflow detected; terminated dns kernel: pid 17370 (qpage), uid 66: exited on signal 6 I don't know what to try from here. Can anyone assist me? Thank you, Alton From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 16:39:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D461065672 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from oceanpt.safeport.com (oceanpt.safeport.com [65.122.17.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A470D8FC1A for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oceanpt.safeport.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p9BFqFdt092986 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:52:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:52:15 -0400 (EDT) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (oceanpt.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Subject: Where to go for xorg information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:39:06 -0000 If this is not the list, please point me to the correct one. Is there a list that corresponds to the XFree86 newbies list? Anyway my question: I imderstand that the FreeBSD Foundation is/was sponsoring coding for the Intel Ironlake chip. Does anyone know the status of this or perhaps where to inquire about the project status? _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 18:34:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD18106566C for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787058FC13 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywp17 with SMTP id 17so8629289ywp.13 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.110.2 with SMTP id n2mr11718071ybm.64.1318358089536; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-105-057.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.105.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z6sm63820111anf.22.2011.10.11.11.34.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3SJ6S71T8kz2CG5v for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:34:46 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111011143446.1f29daf1@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Printing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:34:51 -0000 I am using Cups 1.5.0 with FreeBSD-8.2/amd64. My printer is set up with cups and print a test page perfectly. The problem is if I go to print a document, say from my MUA or Firefox and choose the printer from the pop-up menu, only a blank page is ejected from the printer. Now, if I choose the "LPR" option the document is printed normally. The printer is on a wireless network and works fine from my Windows machines. On my FreeBSD machine, I have the computer hooked up via cable to the router since there is no driver available for the wireless card in the PC. The Cups' log file indicates that everything printed perfectly, even thought it obviously didn't. I have no idea how to debug this problem. It just doesn't make any sense. -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 18:51:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D540106566B for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:51:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.e.friedrich@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198408FC08 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so12034091bkb.13 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:51:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=N3KvsAa5pyeoM2XwnPkj5Oo4qkCQJNsZScChKKOjtOU=; b=ikrvx2gj2Vm+AN9b6nQ1vg1f2sxufqv1xI+yJqokIL1nSckpciR3G26MfjopH3eMqb 304jgpglvdpkINkTrbSQb/Z1JfEtYzp51PmS/uiHS2sVJP4UWAnRPz4adrEDWvpyyeFT 9g6rKMa9/8duLZtFpCQFGcGaRsMQikOiopOOM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.62.16 with SMTP id v16mr42600531fah.35.1318359105772; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.22.131 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:51:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 14:51:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: Steven Friedrich To: =?windows-1251?B?y/7h7uzo8CDD8Ojj7vDu4g==?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Linux 64bit compatability X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:51:47 -0000 Sorry, thanks for informing me. It's particularly frustrating since OSX IS FreeBSD, under the hood. WHEN will Apple show their gratitude? I suspect never. It's a give and take relationship. The FreeBSD community gave and Apple took. They don't even create a FreeBSD version of iTunes. A-holes. Keep fighting, brother. 2011/10/11 =D0=9B=D1=8E=D0=B1=D0=BE=D0=BC=D0=B8=D1=80 =D0=93=D1=80=D0=B8=D0= =B3=D0=BE=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2 > Yes, and unfortunately, there is a s...ton of software that is only > Win/OSX/Linux, and a lot of it is 64bit. So unless FreeBSD's marketing te= am > starts talking to all major corporations to ship native FreeBSD versions, > emulation will be required. At this time there is no 64bit Linux emulatio= n. > > I was told to ask here about the status of 64bit emulation. This list is = as > appropriate as it gets. > > 2011/10/11 Steven Friedrich > >> FreeBSD is NOT linux. Try a linux mailing list. >> > > > -- > Lyubomir Grigorov (bgalakazam) > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 19:49:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D41C106566B for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:49:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8B58FC12 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:49:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jab.dat.pl (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EBA9A9; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:31:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id LuZtS1eZWSwQ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:31:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from snifi.localnet (178-36-128-98.adsl.inetia.pl [178.36.128.98]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 94C5276; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:31:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:31:39 +0200 Message-ID: <3972644.7R0m9TJjn3@snifi> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.2 (Linux/3.0-ARCH; KDE/4.7.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Cc: doug@safeport.com Subject: Re: Where to go for xorg information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:49:19 -0000 Dnia wtorek, 11 pa=C5=BAdziernika 2011 11:52:15 doug@safeport.com pisze= : > Anyway my question: I imderstand that the FreeBSD Foundation is/was > sponsoring coding for the Intel Ironlake chip. Does anyone know the s= tatus > of this or perhaps where to inquire about the project status? > _____ > Douglas Denault This should say something: http://wiki.freebsd.org/Intel_GPU Maciej From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 20:14:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9C41065678 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:14:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EF1E8FC14 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:14:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Oct 2011 20:14:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [192.168.73.192]) [91.140.115.198] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu005) with SMTP; 11 Oct 2011 22:14:49 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+siykUrMWsz8e0mycGlKn51ZZBwZhA2RRJYKN5ZZ 2uwkRA0NWYOC77 Message-ID: <4E94A3B4.6000601@gmx.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:14:44 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Turning system accounting data into money X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:14:51 -0000 On 10/11/2011 5:06 PM, Polytropon wrote: > This is _not_ a spam message trying to sell something > stupid to the list. I'm just searching for a solution > to turn consumed computing resources into a number and > a currency symbol. :-) > > Reason: A growing amount of (my) customers seems to > like this concept: They speed a low fee for access to > systems and applications, and they want to pay according > to what they did with that system. The access fee covers > access and some basic services (backup& quota), and for > anything "more advanced" they want to be charged per > "units" used, or per "consumed resources". This can be dialog > time (SSH), disk I/O, disk occupied, pages printed (can happen) > or pages required to print on exceptional specific forms > (can happen once or twice a year and is charged with an > additional fee for fold, staple& mutilate). > > Sounds stupid? I have _real_ customers intendedly > requesting that payment model (instead of "just pay > amount n Euro a month and do whatever you like"). > > Accidentally, I remembered history. > > So I thought: This funcitonality has been present on > UNIX systems for many decades. But _how_ to use it? I > know there's the command set for accounting, for example > the "ac" command. But what does its output "total 7264.15" > mean? There also are "acct" (process accounting), "sa" > (for system accounting) and "pac" (for printer accounting, > just dooesn't seem to work with CUPS). > > I'd also like to use the /etc/csh.logout resp. ~/.logout > mechanism. When a user logs in, he will be presented the > program he uses (or a menu, in case he uses different ones). > This can also be a regular "remote desktop" session. When > he logs out, a message should be displayed that informs > him how much will be charged for the session. At the end > of the month, he should get an invoice with the proper > accumulated amount. > > For example, if a user wishes to issue a "make a backup > _now_, because I intendedly want _this_ current state > backed up _now_", this will be seen as additional I/O > load and disk occupation (because it's handled aside of > the regular backup runs that should be part of the > "basic package" charged with the "conneciton fee"). > Or as I said, he issues printing for stuff he cannot > print at home, so he will be charged for 500 pages. > And in case he transfers 10 GB data in, and 10 GB data > out, he will be charged for that traffic, as well as > for the I/O. > > The sessions in questions will be SSH sessions (text mode) > as well as SSH/X sessions (remote desktops). > > Maybe someone already uses something similar he wants > to share? Suggestions and inspirations are welcome. > > > > Yes, the builtin accounting facilities do most of the stuff you are interested in. Just add 'accounting_enable="YES"' in your /etc/rc.conf, run '/etc/rc.d/accounting start' and use sa to examine the output. I believe the per-user accounting will fit the bill nicely. You did not mention jails, right? The networking part perhaps can be a firewall's job, though I don't know if the per-user IP traffic rules work properly. There were some problems regarding this ages ago... The builtin printing stuff I believe is for use with the ancient printing tools and I know nothing about CUPS... Hey, these are pretty old stuff you are looking for or perhaps this email was stuck in the mail server's queue for 25 years;) HTH, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 20:33:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40285106566B for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022BF8FC16 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-66.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.66]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710751E4F1; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:33:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9BKXcpx004157; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:33:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:33:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Nikos Vassiliadis Message-Id: <20111011223338.cc26536c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4E94A3B4.6000601@gmx.com> References: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <4E94A3B4.6000601@gmx.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Turning system accounting data into money X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:33:41 -0000 On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:14:44 +0300, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > Yes, the builtin accounting facilities do most of the stuff you > are interested in. Just add 'accounting_enable="YES"' in your > /etc/rc.conf, run '/etc/rc.d/accounting start' and use sa to > examine the output. I believe the per-user accounting will fit > the bill nicely. You did not mention jails, right? Not at the moment. If required, I'd have to do that within the particular jail (and hope values are still correct). > The networking part perhaps can be a firewall's job, though > I don't know if the per-user IP traffic rules work properly. > There were some problems regarding this ages ago... Per-user can be assumed as per-known-IP, as most users will "call" from the same IP (or at least IP range). A different approach could be to give specific connection ports to the customers individually, so instead of :22 for SSH, :22001 for customer 1, :22002 for customer2 and so on, so this could be accounted by traffic "accumulation" based on port. > The builtin printing stuff I believe is for use with the > ancient printing tools [...] The _standard_ printing tools. :-) > [...] and I know nothing about CUPS... I won't let _that_ on my application server. So for the rare printing jobs, I think I may be better of with manually counting the pages. > Hey, these are pretty old stuff you are looking for or perhaps > this email was stuck in the mail server's queue for 25 years;) Think more broader, and think again, and you'll find many "old-fashioned" things that became "modern" again. The accounting model from mainframe times: "the Cloud", "rent a software", "rent infrastructures", "guided dialogs" and so on -- nothing new per se. It's just that some customers re-"explore" those things and the payment models related to them. And as it's my only wish to please the good customer... well, he's the king, and I... I'm just, erm... Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!!! :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 20:40:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30AA106566C for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (cruwe.de [188.40.164.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D3A8FC17 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cruwe.de (unknown [127.0.0.4]) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44132866A for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cruwe.de (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 783AB28668; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:23:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on mail.cruwe.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from dijkstra (p5B37AAA9.dip.t-dialin.net [91.55.170.169]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cruwe.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED83A28664; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:23:27 +0200 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111011222327.6002c397@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV on mail.cruwe.de using ClamSMTP Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: Turning system accounting data into money X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:40:36 -0000 On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:06:19 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > This is _not_ a spam message trying to sell something > stupid to the list. I'm just searching for a solution > to turn consumed computing resources into a number and > a currency symbol. :-) > > Reason: A growing amount of (my) customers seems to > like this concept: They speed a low fee for access to > systems and applications, and they want to pay according > to what they did with that system. The access fee covers > access and some basic services (backup & quota), and for > anything "more advanced" they want to be charged per > "units" used, or per "consumed resources". This can be dialog > time (SSH), disk I/O, disk occupied, pages printed (can happen) > or pages required to print on exceptional specific forms > (can happen once or twice a year and is charged with an > additional fee for fold, staple & mutilate). > > Sounds stupid? I have _real_ customers intendedly > requesting that payment model (instead of "just pay > amount n Euro a month and do whatever you like"). > > Accidentally, I remembered history. > > So I thought: This funcitonality has been present on > UNIX systems for many decades. But _how_ to use it? I > know there's the command set for accounting, for example > the "ac" command. But what does its output "total 7264.15" > mean? There also are "acct" (process accounting), "sa" > (for system accounting) and "pac" (for printer accounting, > just dooesn't seem to work with CUPS). > > I'd also like to use the /etc/csh.logout resp. ~/.logout > mechanism. When a user logs in, he will be presented the > program he uses (or a menu, in case he uses different ones). > This can also be a regular "remote desktop" session. When > he logs out, a message should be displayed that informs > him how much will be charged for the session. At the end > of the month, he should get an invoice with the proper > accumulated amount. > > For example, if a user wishes to issue a "make a backup > _now_, because I intendedly want _this_ current state > backed up _now_", this will be seen as additional I/O > load and disk occupation (because it's handled aside of > the regular backup runs that should be part of the > "basic package" charged with the "conneciton fee"). > Or as I said, he issues printing for stuff he cannot > print at home, so he will be charged for 500 pages. > And in case he transfers 10 GB data in, and 10 GB data > out, he will be charged for that traffic, as well as > for the I/O. > > The sessions in questions will be SSH sessions (text mode) > as well as SSH/X sessions (remote desktops). > > Maybe someone already uses something similar he wants > to share? Suggestions and inspirations are welcome. > > Cannot be of any direct help, but ... You remember that 'astronomer chases hacker on Berkely computer systes'- novel, Cliff Stoll: The Cookoo's Egg? If not, try wikipedia. As an aside, I was told that at some universities' CS-classes, it is required lecture. In that novel, user's departments where charged according to resources spent on the university's computers and the main figure was tasked to find out about a 0.75$ accounting error and found a hacker instead. The system in the novel was a Berkeley Unix. So, systems that do what you want (and customers who want to pay on a per use basis) must be around for quite some time. The novel is copyrighted 1989, I cannot track when the real event circling around a certain Markus Hess, cf. also wikipedia, took place. My guess about the system is 4.3BSD Tahoe or earlier 4.3BSD. Cheers, -- Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 00:02:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5847B1065672 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:02:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CCAF8FC15 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9C02qth030728; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:02:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p9C02p4u030717; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:02:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:02:51 -0400 (EDT) From: doug To: Maciej Milewski In-Reply-To: <3972644.7R0m9TJjn3@snifi> Message-ID: References: <3972644.7R0m9TJjn3@snifi> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where to go for xorg information X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:02:58 -0000 On Tue, 11 Oct 2011, Maciej Milewski wrote: > Dnia wtorek, 11 pa?dziernika 2011 11:52:15 doug@safeport.com pisze: >> Anyway my question: I imderstand that the FreeBSD Foundation is/was >> sponsoring coding for the Intel Ironlake chip. Does anyone know the status >> of this or perhaps where to inquire about the project status? >> _____ >> Douglas Denault > > This should say something: > http://wiki.freebsd.org/Intel_GPU > > Maciej Thanks, UTFM is a subset of FTFM. Understanding is a work in progress. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 01:08:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB3C106566B for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juvix88@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FC88FC1A for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so229905wwe.31 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:08:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nld78GX9mr8HlV/uOjVrr3MQgyQwjwlwS5S7PsLizfY=; b=MYN6i+qgfbIGR+EFqPAk3u933BuY1Fb/23LsJpWfsUIt4SF/vfWgAktd4RRJukXZqN 400zrIjNF1p1W2aNRpbJ6l/GHnT+SsICZ2x4+FczlT1w738SirrKv3Oq4ue6yUMsAFVx 2Gu8JSi4P7dxcHdNEV0dNN3GrdN+1hJN/620k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.12.8 with SMTP id v8mr5510730wbv.56.1318381698539; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.84.130 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.84.130 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:08:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:08:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jonathan Vomacka To: Polytropon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Turning system accounting data into money X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 01:08:21 -0000 Ever heard of bold_or_underline? On Oct 11, 2011 10:06 AM, "Polytropon" wrote: > > This is _not_ a spam message trying to sell something > stupid to the list. I'm just searching for a solution > to turn consumed computing resources into a number and > a currency symbol. :-) > > Reason: A growing amount of (my) customers seems to > like this concept: They speed a low fee for access to > systems and applications, and they want to pay according > to what they did with that system. The access fee covers > access and some basic services (backup & quota), and for > anything "more advanced" they want to be charged per > "units" used, or per "consumed resources". This can be dialog > time (SSH), disk I/O, disk occupied, pages printed (can happen) > or pages required to print on exceptional specific forms > (can happen once or twice a year and is charged with an > additional fee for fold, staple & mutilate). > > Sounds stupid? I have _real_ customers intendedly > requesting that payment model (instead of "just pay > amount n Euro a month and do whatever you like"). > > Accidentally, I remembered history. > > So I thought: This funcitonality has been present on > UNIX systems for many decades. But _how_ to use it? I > know there's the command set for accounting, for example > the "ac" command. But what does its output "total 7264.15" > mean? There also are "acct" (process accounting), "sa" > (for system accounting) and "pac" (for printer accounting, > just dooesn't seem to work with CUPS). > > I'd also like to use the /etc/csh.logout resp. ~/.logout > mechanism. When a user logs in, he will be presented the > program he uses (or a menu, in case he uses different ones). > This can also be a regular "remote desktop" session. When > he logs out, a message should be displayed that informs > him how much will be charged for the session. At the end > of the month, he should get an invoice with the proper > accumulated amount. > > For example, if a user wishes to issue a "make a backup > _now_, because I intendedly want _this_ current state > backed up _now_", this will be seen as additional I/O > load and disk occupation (because it's handled aside of > the regular backup runs that should be part of the > "basic package" charged with the "conneciton fee"). > Or as I said, he issues printing for stuff he cannot > print at home, so he will be charged for 500 pages. > And in case he transfers 10 GB data in, and 10 GB data > out, he will be charged for that traffic, as well as > for the I/O. > > The sessions in questions will be SSH sessions (text mode) > as well as SSH/X sessions (remote desktops). > > Maybe someone already uses something similar he wants > to share? Suggestions and inspirations are welcome. > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 03:36:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90828106564A for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 03:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vogelke@hcst.net) Received: from beta.hcst.com (beta.hcst.com [192.52.183.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7C98FC1C for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 03:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from beta.hcst.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p9C3Miau020448 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:22:45 -0400 Received: (from vogelke@localhost) by beta.hcst.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p9C3MiCg020447; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:22:44 -0400 Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id 62BB2BF25; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:18:57 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <20111011163918.711dd55e.freebsd@edvax.de> (message from Polytropon on Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:39:18 +0200) Organization: Array Infotech X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Array Infotech. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 References: <20111011155750.2f70109d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111011163918.711dd55e.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-Id: <20111012031857.62BB2BF25@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:18:57 -0400 (EDT) From: vogelke+unix@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: User tasks in ~/.logout X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+unix@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 03:36:42 -0000 >> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011, Polytropon wrote: P> I have some users who I want to "schedule" a specific job for which gets P> executed on their user account. For some of them, it will be twice a P> day, for others just once a month. It should happen at logout time. If using the ~/.logout file works, fine, but... P> The only thing is to educate users to... ...may the deity of your choice help you. How about this? 1. Run the "onlogout" program below once a minute from cron. You can run it as root, since it uses "last" to figure out who's logged out recently, and "su" to run something as that user. I opened a new xterm, connected via ssh to a BSD box, and closed the window without logging out; "last" showed my session properly, so your users probably won't need to change the way they do things. 2. "onlogout" runs another script called "runone", which uses "lockf" to make sure that only one instance is running for a given user at a time. The example below just prints the date and sleeps for a few seconds to demonstrate the locking, but you could personalize it by running "~/.disconnect" if it exists; "su -l" should set the environment properly. "onlogout" keeps the previous most recent 20 lines from "last" to see what's changed since the previous run. If your system is really active, you'll have to tweak that. Over-engineered? Probably, but the combination of no user education plus safely running *one* copy of a backup job (or whatever) on user logout might be worth it. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Handy engineering conversions: 1000 aches = 1 kilohurtz --------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/ksh # new if test -f old then list=$(diff old new | grep -v 'still logged in' | grep '^>' | awk '{print $2}' | sort -u) else mv new old exit 0 fi # Start a specific job for each one. for name in $list do su -l $name -c '/usr/sbin/daemon /path/to/runone' done mv new old exit 0 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/ksh # Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CCD106564A for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:02:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (adsl-70-129-195-213.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net [70.129.195.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13598FC13 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:02:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9CFTEiO063880 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:29:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:29:14 -0500 From: "Dean E. Weimer" To: Mail-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.6 Subject: somewhat Off topic, Sendmail Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:02:42 -0000 I know this is a Sendmail issue, but I haven't been able to track down any information online, or found any Sendmail user email lists yet. And since I am running it on a FreeBSD server, I thought I would try here and see if anyone knows the answer to my problem. I have enabled SSL on SMTP to enable the delivery and reception of TLS encrypted emails, the server is going to be used as a relay between a MS Exchange server and an external Spam filtering service that has an encrypted email sending application that strips attachments and creates a password protected HTTPS link based on keywords in the subject. Everything works as expected, but when I test the server against required PCI scans, it accepts weak encryption ciphers, I need to limit these ciphers. After a lot of extensive searching I have found references to the fact that it is possible to configure Sendmail to do this, but I can't find any documentation on how to do it. The server is running FreeBSD 8.2 which is patched up to p4, and Sendmail was configured with the following options, this test setup is also being used to test secure IMAP with authentication, so there are settings in here as well for Cyrus IMAP. /etc/make.conf: # Use OpenSSL from ports instead of base WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes # Enable SMTP Authentication SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/sasl -DSASL SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl2 # Adding to enable alternate port (smtps) for sendmail... SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL Steps done after editing /etc/make.conf: cd /usr/src/lib/libsmutil make cleandir && make obj && make cd /usr/src/lib/libsm make cleandir && make obj && make cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail make cleandir && make obj && make && make install /etc/rc.conf: # Enable Sendmail saslauthd_enable="YES" saslauthd_flags="-a sasldb" cyrus_imapd_enable="YES" sendmail_enable="YES" /etc/mail/hostname.mc: define(`confLOCAL_MAILER',`cyrusv2') define(`CYRUS_MAILER_PATH',`/usr/local/cyrus/bin/deliver') MAILER(`cyrusv2') dnl set SASL options TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN') define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN') dnl Cert Options define(`confCACERT_PATH', `/usr/local/etc/ssl/smtp')dnl define(`confCACERT', `/usr/local/etc/ssl/smtp/gd_bundle.crt')dnl define(`confSERVER_CERT', `/usr/local/etc/ssl/smtp/server.crt')dnl define(`confSERVER_KEY', `/usr/local/etc/ssl/smtp/server.key')dnl dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp, Name=MTA') DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtps, Name=TLSMTA, M=s') I know that setting this option in Apache does the trick for HTTPS, I just need to figure out how to tell Sendmail to do the same. SSLCipherSuite ALL:!aNULL:!eNULL:!LOW:!EXP:!ADH:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:!SSLv2 If anyone has any idea how to do this, or any idea on what keywords to search on that might find me the directions it would be a great help. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer dweimer@dweimer.net http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 16:30:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8E9106566B for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from mail2.nber.org (mail2.nber.org [66.251.72.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422F38FC0A for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agesas2.nber.org (agesas2.nber.org [66.251.72.183]) by mail2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9CGUfck030902 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:30:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from localhost (feenberg@localhost) by agesas2.nber.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p9CGUePg030039; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:30:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: agesas2.nber.org: feenberg owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:30:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg To: "Dean E. Weimer" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LFD 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Anti-Virus: Kaspersky Anti-Virus for Linux Mail Server 5.6.39/RELEASE, bases: 20111012 #5509368, check: 20111012 clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: somewhat Off topic, Sendmail Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:30:47 -0000 On Wed, 12 Oct 2011, Dean E. Weimer wrote: > I know this is a Sendmail issue, but I haven't been able to track down any > information online, or found any Sendmail user email lists yet. And since I > am running it on a FreeBSD server, I thought I would try here and see if > anyone knows the answer to my problem. > > I have enabled SSL on SMTP to enable the delivery and reception of TLS > encrypted emails, the server is going to be used as a relay between a MS > Exchange server and an external Spam filtering service that has an encrypted > email sending application that strips attachments and creates a password > protected HTTPS link based on keywords in the subject. > > Everything works as expected, but when I test the server against required PCI > scans, it accepts weak encryption ciphers, I need to limit these ciphers. > After a lot of extensive searching I have found references to the fact that > it is possible to configure Sendmail to do this, but I can't find any > documentation on how to do it. > There is an active Usenet group at comp.mail.sendmail. Does the ENCR parameter documented at http://www.sendmail.org/m4/starttls.html do you any good? It doesn't restrict the method, only the number of bits in the key. Daniel Feenberg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 17:36:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63A4106564A for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout021.mac.com (asmtpout021.mac.com [17.148.16.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0938FC16 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:36:50 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp021.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0LSY001BJRL9DU80@asmtp021.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:36:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-12_06:2011-10-12, 2011-10-12, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110120187 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:36:44 -0700 Message-id: <96D84300-128D-499C-8762-3A0EA4790A08@mac.com> References: To: dweimer@dweimer.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: somewhat Off topic, Sendmail Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:36:50 -0000 Hi-- On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Dean E. Weimer wrote: > I know that setting this option in Apache does the trick for HTTPS, I just need to figure out how to tell Sendmail to do the same. > SSLCipherSuite ALL:!aNULL:!eNULL:!LOW:!EXP:!ADH:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:!SSLv2 > > If anyone has any idea how to do this, or any idea on what keywords to search on that might find me the directions it would be a great help. If you can't find a way of specifying the allowed SSL ciphers via sendmail config (as someone mentioned, you can test ${cipher_bits} against ENCR:bits, but that doesn't disable anonymous ciphers like ADH entirely), you can build a modern flavor of OpenSSL to /usr/local with the ciphers you don't like disabled, and rebuild sendmail against this OpenSSL. I believe that the security/openssl already does most of this for you, and would be easy to tweak a bit more if that's needed. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 17:37:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344101065687 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:37:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C378FC13 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so418604bkb.13 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:37:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.138.216 with SMTP id b24mr14175280bku.68.1318441027507; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.66 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:37:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [128.95.17.241] In-Reply-To: <20111011222327.6002c397@dijkstra> References: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111011222327.6002c397@dijkstra> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:37:07 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Turning system accounting data into money X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:37:09 -0000 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > So, systems that do what you want (and customers who want to pay on a per use basis) must be around for quite some time. Yeah, this was the normal way of doing things for many years on "large" systems, back when a "large system" was a multiuser UNIX box the size of a refrigerator. For a long time it went away, as computer time got "too cheap to meter," so a lot of the accounting tools that exist in UNIX are a bit foreign to modern admins. We're seeing a bit of a resurgence of the pay-for-usage model with services like Amazon EC2. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 19:36:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638F31065672 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:36:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (adsl-70-129-195-213.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net [70.129.195.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002B08FC15 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9CJajCD068879; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:36:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:36:45 -0500 From: "Dean E. Weimer" To: Daniel Feenberg Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.6 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: somewhat Off topic, Sendmail Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:36:47 -0000 On 12.10.2011 11:30, Daniel Feenberg wrote: > There is an active Usenet group at comp.mail.sendmail. > > Does the ENCR parameter documented at > > http://www.sendmail.org/m4/starttls.html > > do you any good? It doesn't restrict the method, only the number of > bits > in the key. > > Daniel Feenberg Well after searching the comp.mail.sendmail list through Google groups, I have come up wiht the following changes. I changed the orignal /etc/make.conf: from this: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL to: SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+= -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL -D_FFR_TLS_1 redid the compile steps: Added this to the end of /etc/mail/hostname.mc: LOCAL_CONFIG O CipherList=ALL:!aNULL:!eNULL:!LOW:!EXP:!ADH:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:!SSLv2 under /etc/mail executed the make, make install steps After restarting, an attempt to do: /usr/local/bin/openssl s_client -starttls smtp -cipher EXP-RC4-MD5 -connect localhost:25 Failed, this successfully connected before these changes. Scans are running now, I will let you all know if it was successful. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer dweimer@dweimer.net http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 20:17:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBFD1065672 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157598FC0A for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:17:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p9CKGrkd048143 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:16:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p9CKGrkd048143 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1318450613; bh=RTBg8Ja3JF12sGv7MsY1sUlUrkIRk7yQ+i26LDCeIUE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E95F5AD.1040407@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2012=20Oct=202011=2021:16:45=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20rv:7.0.1)=20Gecko/2 0110929=20Thunderbird/7.0.1|MIME-Version:=201.0|To:=20dweimer@dwei mer.net|CC:=20Daniel=20Feenberg=20,=20freebsd-q uestions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20somewhat=20Off=20topic,=20Se ndmail=20Issue|References:=20=20=20|In-Reply -To:=20|X-Enigma il-Version:=201.3.2|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multi part/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applicat ion/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig72B1660A 8438E6925452B614"; b=L8zAeYwZ+4wEJtzbFlcvb1RichEtBClOT3XnOpjcX4PWbqnJn6BwY0UZe/2h8j4wZ t0twueBfOg6jRFQebRCrD2yyqeoogTVfHTbekDmLjHa/lYVRPIoH9XA1gvpze7vNgo 9mdXPf/dvBJT42/2U5vIIdN0wZ63GhMHJuTBz450= Message-ID: <4E95F5AD.1040407@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:16:45 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dweimer@dweimer.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig72B1660A8438E6925452B614" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Daniel Feenberg , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: somewhat Off topic, Sendmail Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:17:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig72B1660A8438E6925452B614 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/10/2011 20:36, Dean E. Weimer wrote: > Well after searching the comp.mail.sendmail list through Google groups,= > I have come up wiht the following changes. >=20 > I changed the orignal /etc/make.conf: > from this: > SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+=3D -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL > to: > SENDMAIL_CFLAGS+=3D -D_FFR_SMTP_SSL -D_FFR_TLS_1 >=20 > redid the compile steps: >=20 > Added this to the end of /etc/mail/hostname.mc: > LOCAL_CONFIG > O CipherList=3DALL:!aNULL:!eNULL:!LOW:!EXP:!ADH:RC4+RSA:+HIGH:+MEDIUM:!= SSLv2 >=20 > under /etc/mail > executed the make, make install steps >=20 > After restarting, an attempt to do: > /usr/local/bin/openssl s_client -starttls smtp -cipher EXP-RC4-MD5 > -connect localhost:25 >=20 > Failed, this successfully connected before these changes. Scans are > running now, I will let you all know if it was successful. _FFR_TLS_1 is actually already defined in the default sendmail on FreeBSD. See /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/Makefile around line 63. It's also enabled in the ports version of sendmail, so long as you select the WITH_TLS option. I just added this setting to my sendmail config and it seems to work using the ports sendmail without having to recompile anything. It could certainly do with being mentioned in the documentation more prominently. There's not a hint of the CipherList option in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README _FFR_SMTP_SSL on the other hand, doesn't appear anywhere under /usr/src -- think that must be a fossil remnant from some older version of sendmai= l. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig72B1660A8438E6925452B614 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6V9bQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw+cQCePKg3fVa6Bi8z+pABSNeQ78Ch V5UAnRENuhosVt1eYGCW7QfX9fxSdYWC =MRGl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig72B1660A8438E6925452B614-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 20:19:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC4A106566C for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy@stormy.smart-serv.net) Received: from mx01.edm.ab.smart-serv.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f04:1d91::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDF38FC0C for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:19:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1d:5a2:25::2] (sleet.dwncrk.bc.ssnet.ca [IPv6:2001:470:1d:5a2:25::2]) by mx01.edm.ab.smart-serv.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3E7A6EF446 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:19:05 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4E95F636.4080205@stormy.smart-serv.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:19:02 -0700 From: Jeremy Johnston User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110831 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E8EB1E3.9080502@endersys.com> In-Reply-To: <4E8EB1E3.9080502@endersys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: KVM - FreeBSD Network Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:19:06 -0000 On 10/07/11 01:01, Aydın Demirel wrote: > Hi; > > I installed FreeBSD 8.2 on Centos 5.7 via KVM. KVM version is 8.3 and > qemu version is 0.12.4 > > We have network problem. I set guest freebsd network as bridge mode > and Status seems active. Default gateway is defined.. > > When I see network packets with tcpdump, packets are streaming (for > example: ARP, requested has 10.6.21.221 ...) > > But, Guest network doesn't go out. > > What can be the problem? Any suggestion? > > Regards > I have noticed odd behaviour when using Gentoo as the KVM host. I get very intermitant connectivity. I have it setup as a bridge on the host. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 21:06:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE651106566B for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937C08FC08 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggeq3 with SMTP id q3so1422152gge.13 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.145.105 with SMTP id o69mr1262420yhj.24.1318453600667; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-105-057.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.105.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u66sm4266921yhu.13.2011.10.12.14.06.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3SJnmt0ZJLz2CG5c for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:06:37 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111012170637.33ea0f11@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: LLTD protocol (Link Layer Topology Discovery) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:06:41 -0000 I was just doing some reading about the LLTD protocol. It seems that Microsoft is distributing a package designed for Linux. This is the URL: http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-the-lltd-protocol-responder-for-linux-on-debian-lenny I was wondering if this would actually work in a FreeBSD environment and if anyone had actually tried it. The link for downloading the Windows Rally Development Kit is wrong in the article. It should be: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463034 -- Jerry ✌ jerry+fbsd@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or ignored. Do not CC this poster. Please do not ignore the "Reply-To" header. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 21:43:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB59106564A for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) Received: from webmail.dweimer.net (adsl-70-129-195-213.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net [70.129.195.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD268FC12 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:43:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.dweimer.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.dweimer.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9CLh14n070863; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:43:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dweimer@dweimer.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:43:01 -0500 From: "Dean E. Weimer" To: Matthew Seaman Mail-Reply-To: In-Reply-To: <4E95F5AD.1040407@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4E95F5AD.1040407@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: X-Sender: dweimer@dweimer.net User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.6 Cc: Daniel Feenberg , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: somewhat Off topic, Sendmail Issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dweimer@dweimer.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:43:04 -0000 On 12.10.2011 15:16, Matthew Seaman wrote: > _FFR_TLS_1 is actually already defined in the default sendmail on > FreeBSD. See /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/Makefile around line 63. > It's also enabled in the ports version of sendmail, so long as you > select the WITH_TLS option. I just added this setting to my sendmail > config and it seems to work using the ports sendmail without having > to > recompile anything. > > It could certainly do with being mentioned in the documentation more > prominently. There's not a hint of the CipherList option in > /usr/share/sendmail/cf/README > > _FFR_SMTP_SSL on the other hand, doesn't appear anywhere under > /usr/src > -- think that must be a fossil remnant from some older version of > sendmail. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: > http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: > matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW Interesting info, I will take a look at that Makefile and see what I find, I found those options to set originally on a web page, can't quite remember where, I pieced info from a few different locations to get everything working as I wanted. I do know a lot of it was originally done for an older version of FreeBSD, so perhaps it was an FFR option at that time it was written. One thing I have figured out in this process is that Sendmail FFR compiled options are basically undocumented outside of the source file comments. Perhaps it was my inclusion of an old setting, that caused the ciphers to open up more to start with. It did pass the tests as is, I will look more into this though. And see if I can't slim down the overall steps to get the server up and running before it goes live on a production server. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer dweimer@dweimer.net http://www.dweimer.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 22:38:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9198106564A for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnorwick@centurytel.net) Received: from mail963c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail963c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686E58FC12 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:38:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: mnorwick.centurytel.net Received: from bucksnort.norwickhouse.net (174-124-37-123.dyn.centurytel.net [174.124.37.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail963c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p9CMcrlp001482 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:38:55 GMT Message-ID: <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:38:53 -0500 From: "Michael D. Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110829 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=bTL4Ajo6uswVZnuhsvfrLWC3P238fErHFeNpWfZvXqY= c=1 sm=1 a=_tW4y8GFV1YA:10 a=eSqDvTon1VwA:10 a=3WPTVEtZbjMA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=nRHtrj2pbMUmV2THcod+iQ==:17 a=0zxosBLkAHOrjVayS-AA:9 a=13xwvTxKP8ZKGH9dZjgA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=nRHtrj2pbMUmV2THcod+iQ==:117 Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:38:57 -0000 On 10/10/11 05:44, Frank Shute wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 04:47:40AM -0500, Michael D. Norwick wrote: >> On 10/10/11 01:37, Frank Shute wrote: >>> On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 08:33:01PM -0500, Michael D. Norwick wrote: >> < snip > > This looks like it's playing. Is the CD/DVD drive active? < snip > >> Still will not play. Tried 2 different CD's. >> >> Thank You, > If the drive is active and you're not getting sound out: > > What does: > > $ mixer > > & > > $ cat /dev/sndstat > > show? > > > Regards, > > GoodDay; Tried again with the following results; A dialog box dislplaying the following, Unable to mount Audio Disc DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) and $ cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) Installed devices: pcm0: (play/rec) default $ mixer Mixer vol is currently set to 100:100 Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 Mixer speaker is currently set to 75:75 Mixer rec is currently set to 75:75 Recording source: monitor no sound and no drive activity. Thank You, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 22:39:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C44A1065679 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1694E8FC17 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.intranet.com.mx (189.144.47.109) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9) for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:40:22 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:38:57 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jorge Biquez Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3401304023-313529491@intranet.com.mx> Subject: Freebsd, Virtual OSs and GUI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:39:24 -0000 Hello all. I hope this question does not sound too stupid. I am sorry in advance if you think so. Since version 2.x and until now all I have been using FreeBsd as a server, helping a small ISP company of a friend , basic web services, email, dns etc. All I have been doing has been done in the text interface, the pure shell. In fact, I have to confess that I have never tried any of the GUIs available. For some reasons not important to mention I need to have a server that can virtualize some other OS's (Linux, Freebsd and Windows). This will be used as a lab for some personal projects. Of course I thought to have as the base FreeBsd Version 8.2 and have the virtual machines running inside, was wondering if Virtualbox runs fine there. The virtual machines need to be used with their graphical interface (Gnome , Kde and windows). So I guess that the best and need is to have a graphical interface also running with the base (FreeBsd 8.2). Is that correct? If so, here are some questions: It is better to install KDE or GNOME as the base GUI or it is better to have any other ? (I do not know what could be). What do you think is the best option to save hardware resources and accomplish this task ? Something important is that this lab machine will be connected directly with the ISP (public IP's) and I will need to connect remotely to control the server and the other OS's. If I do not need necessarily a GUI running with FreeBSD, what do you suggest to use? I have to mention that I have done the first phase of my testing using XP and inside of it running VirtualBox with FreeBsd and Linux distros without problems... BUT... OF COURSE even with the firewall, antivirus , latest patches and all the protection schema, yesterday the antivirus start telling the machine has virus and seems it was comprmised, of course I can not continue using it and it was not the idea to have that, but for the 3 dyas of testing what I need to do was enough. By the way the hardware I will use I guess it is enough since it is for testing only and I won't be connected remotely all the time. The machine is an "old" Pentium Core 2 Duo, 2GB of ram (its maximum) and a hard disk of 500gb, also it has an Nvdia card 256Mb (can use the one with the motherboard if that is a problem) The motherboard is an INtel one. It runs perectly FreeBSD using it in text mode. As a curios information something in the motherboard maybe is not compatible with UBuntu . As always thanks in advance for your comments and your time. Jorge Biquez From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 23:14:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B091065675 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29118FC0A for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyd10 with SMTP id 10so1665251eyd.13 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:14:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ejmafSWZoM/y9xdGxrekISD6eHxcIOb5NnD0QsInBOE=; b=IYIXVnRoQ0BRlIJk8T2jnFIs7dcxjWV0fAxfam4v3j2DmTNUDXohGloLyx0UKN+F34 tx4AdrVn2uEQsLKoGysJK/9+JpjZVv/0HQhQbLPzwOgm4NNhs1eiRp6BS2eaPZc2+RQD W6670wdD6wMjYdiuQ9tHwImxnuL8oC+5RA46w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.75.27 with SMTP id w27mr1818320faj.11.1318461257586; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.124.197 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:14:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3401304023-313529491@intranet.com.mx> References: <3401304023-313529491@intranet.com.mx> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:14:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Jorge Biquez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd, Virtual OSs and GUI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:14:19 -0000 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jorge Biquez wrote: It is better to install KDE or GNOME as the base GUI or it is better to have > any other ? (I do not know what could be). > This is one of those ask a hundred different people get 100 different answers. I prefer KDE which would work well for you because both KDE and VirtualBox are built on QT4, a rather large system. KDE isn't really that heavy though relatively speaking. VirtualBox runs great for me and does all you indicated. > > What do you think is the best option to save hardware resources and > accomplish this task ? Something important is that this lab machine will be > connected directly with the ISP (public IP's) and I will need to connect > remotely to control the server and the other OS's. > You will probably want a CPU and chipset that has hardware assist for virtualization, and plenty of RAM for both host and guests. Disk choice should reflect your data capacity, redundancy, and speed needs. A good quality Intel NIC is always nice. > > If I do not need necessarily a GUI running with FreeBSD, what do you > suggest to use? > You don't need a GUI, VirtualBox has a headless mode that handles it for you. By the way the hardware I will use I guess it is enough since it is for > testing only and I won't be connected remotely all the time. The machine is > an "old" Pentium Core 2 Duo, 2GB of ram (its maximum) and a hard disk of > 500gb, also it has an Nvdia card 256Mb (can use the one with the motherboard > if that is a problem) The motherboard is an INtel one. It runs perectly > FreeBSD using it in text mode. As a curios information something in the > motherboard maybe is not compatible with UBuntu . > The hardware you mention likely doesn't have VT-d, and probably has VT-x which is perfectly fine, because to my knowledge you can't use VT-d with VirtualBox yet anyways. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 23:21:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A601065676 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:21:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C4A8FC18 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-66.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.66]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4CB3D193; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:21:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9CNLuUQ002429; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:21:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:21:56 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Michael D. Norwick" Message-Id: <20111013012156.2f19ef3f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:21:58 -0000 On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:38:53 -0500, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > GoodDay; > > Tried again with the following results; > > A dialog box dislplaying the following, > > Unable to mount Audio Disc > > DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a > reply (timeout by message bus) You cannot mount an audio CD, it doesn't contain a file system. Idea: Maybe some kind of interference of your desktop environment that intends to mount a CD that cannot be mounted, and the command line tool trying to access a resource that is blocked due to the first thing? You should "step down" to the lowest level possible for diagnostics, i. e. running the system's command line tools to make the CD play. If _this_ works, then "go up" and test within your GUI desktop environment. The less abstraction layers are in between, the better. > and > > $ cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64) > Installed devices: > pcm0: (play/rec) default > > $ mixer > Mixer vol is currently set to 100:100 > Mixer pcm is currently set to 75:75 > Mixer speaker is currently set to 75:75 > Mixer rec is currently set to 75:75 > Recording source: monitor > > no sound and no drive activity. Hmmm... I'm missing the CD in that listing. Which mixer is your default mixer? Try -f /dev/mixer0 to make sure the correct one is selected. On HDA codecs, there may be several mixers. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 23:33:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0552106566B for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lowell@Be-Well.Ilk.Org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B25F8FC13 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:33:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.52]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A4CA710AC for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:33:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31068 invoked from network); 12 Oct 2011 23:33:40 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 32088, pid: 14944, t: 0.2068s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:13513 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 12 Oct 2011 23:33:40 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239C42E0D9; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 02D5E3983C; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:33:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: "Michael D. Norwick" References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:33:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> (Michael D. Norwick's message of "Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:38:53 -0500") Message-ID: <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:33:41 -0000 "Michael D. Norwick" writes: > A dialog box dislplaying the following, > > Unable to mount Audio Disc You're not supposed to mount an audio disk. There's even a FAQ entry titled "Why can I not mount an audio CD?" http://be-well.ilk.org/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#MOUNT-AUDIO-CD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 12 23:50:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94FD106566B for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnorwick@centurytel.net) Received: from mail962c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail962c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242E78FC08 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:50:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: mnorwick.centurytel.net Received: from bucksnort.norwickhouse.net (174-124-37-123.dyn.centurytel.net [174.124.37.123]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail962c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p9CNnwdA021891 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:50:00 GMT Message-ID: <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:49:58 -0500 From: "Michael D. Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110829 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=CsYOLsIY2139Hz99+cjMbADXbiP8P5wV1SI1AXcb69M= c=1 sm=1 a=_tW4y8GFV1YA:10 a=eSqDvTon1VwA:10 a=3WPTVEtZbjMA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=nRHtrj2pbMUmV2THcod+iQ==:17 a=dynt39AsAAAA:8 a=-IkFJk6PAAAA:8 a=ZeeIGj8YmhbpY7KruEEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=3ZgTBDW2_8MA:10 a=Jw29t_AgHPoA:10 a=nRHtrj2pbMUmV2THcod+iQ==:117 Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:50:10 -0000 On 10/12/11 18:33, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Michael D. Norwick" writes: > >> A dialog box dislplaying the following, >> >> Unable to mount Audio Disc > You're not supposed to mount an audio disk. > There's even a FAQ entry titled > "Why can I not mount an audio CD?" > http://be-well.ilk.org/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#MOUNT-AUDIO-CD > > Good Day; Thank You for the replies. Got the part about not mounting an audio CD. I wasn't trying to. Inserting the disc in the drive brought up the error message. Mounting a data CD or DVD acts normally and the filesystem on it can be accessed. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 00:15:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028B2106566C for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47898FC08 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-66.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.66]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72593CE32; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:14:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9D0Ex01002741; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:14:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:14:59 +0200 From: Polytropon To: "Michael D. Norwick" Message-Id: <20111013021459.6eb958f1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:15:01 -0000 On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:49:58 -0500, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > Thank You for the replies. Got the part about not mounting an audio > CD. I wasn't trying to. Inserting the disc in the drive brought up the > error message. Mounting a data CD or DVD acts normally and the > filesystem on it can be accessed. Do you have the option of testing mixer settings and CD playing commands _outside_ of the GUI, i. e. in normal text mode - just to make sure no DBUS, HAL or whatever part of the desktop environment might interfere? Things to check: - Which mixers do exist? Which settings are active? - Which CD device can be accessed by cdcontrol? Does it start playing properly? On today's disc drives, you typically don't have a 3.5mm headphone connector for direct listening. Also some sound cards (unlike most onboard sound chips) have the ability to connect the "CD audio" wire inside the machine. This feature is obsolete, but still works. It's typically not part of laptop designs. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 00:38:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E95106566B for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonschipp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADDB8FC0A for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:38:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzs8 with SMTP id zs8so893596bkb.13 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:38:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KxgWFbtq44VaaUZUP2NiAokyEnzYHqLOZoB+vMf4018=; b=knwmbJSXS2tU4QHPUVAGarUeI+am8lID0J2yI83A0ZHPhpDc6DtbOGyWl5eY0LHWt2 QpSM42Rnbba1p8H7NQvbKoM1UttSraIZcM0Po42fxejsEgqf7M4KlsFb0Erne3cF5GLm wx4E5PcIs4SDTkP6yZ0V+DIGOOpDcmvKqy75U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.62.16 with SMTP id v16mr2042193fah.35.1318464469102; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.4.168 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:07:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jon Schipp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: netstat -di - Idrop vs. Drop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:38:11 -0000 On FreeBSD what's the difference between Drop and Idrop in the netstat output? $ netstat -di Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Idrop Opkts Oerrs Coll Drop bge0* 1500 00:16:d4:e3:49:31 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 wpi0 2290 00:1b:77:86:2d:fa 0 53068 0 179587 3 0 0 The man page doesn't explain them. Also, does netstat get the drop count from the NIC or from a kernel buffer? For instance, if the NIC can't accept any more packets because of the lack of descriptors, will the packets lost be reported as one of the drop values in netstat? I ask because in Linux, ifconfig reads from /proc/net/dev and as for as I know, it drops only when the kernel buffer is full. So if the NIC wouldn't accept packets due to lack of descriptors you wouldn't know about it i.e. it hasn't made it's way into kernel memory. that and netstat on FreeBSD has the -B option for the BPF buffer stats, so right now it makes sense that netstat -di reports the drop count from the NIC/driver itself. Right/Wrong? Any help is appreciated, Thanks -- - Jon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ VMB: 812-682-0231 Dubois County Linux User Group - http://www.dclinux.org Southern Indiana Computer Klub - http://sickbits.networklabs.org Bloomington FOOLS - http://www.bloomingtonfools.org/ BloomingLabs - http://www.bloominglabs.org ISSA-Kentuckiana - http://issa-kentuckiana.org GPG Key ID: 810903CB Key fingerprint = 0069 ED69 EABB DF84 5983 AD3C 6C20 BEFD 8109 03CB From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 00:54:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7451065676 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout020.mac.com (asmtpout020.mac.com [17.148.16.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0538FC0A for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:54:25 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp020.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0LSZ00JEZBUHRM30@asmtp020.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:54:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-12_08:2011-10-12, 2011-10-12, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110120322 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20111013021459.6eb958f1.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:54:16 -0700 Message-id: <3908D37D-F2C5-422C-82AE-020F10AD28C2@mac.com> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <20111013021459.6eb958f1.freebsd@edvax.de> To: Polytropon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: "Michael D. Norwick" , FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:54:25 -0000 On Oct 12, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On today's disc drives, you typically don't have a > 3.5mm headphone connector for direct listening. Also > some sound cards (unlike most onboard sound chips) > have the ability to connect the "CD audio" wire inside > the machine. This feature is obsolete, but still works. > It's typically not part of laptop designs. A fair number of motherboards with integrated audio will take the analog audio output from a CD/DVD drive; the better ones will also accept a 3-pin digital SP/DIF connection as well. Even if they don't, however, it's not uncommon for them to have audio connectivity in the form of a microphone input buried within a 10-pin extension header (AC'97 and Intel's HD Audio front panel connector), rather than have a 4-pin or 3-pin connector which matches the cable which came with the CD/DVD drive. Anyway, none of the above should not be needed with modern SATA devices-- digital audio data goes directly over the SATA cable without a need for a separate audio cable. Any laptop (which isn't obsolete) would use this route. 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Norwick" References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 20:37:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> (Michael D. Norwick's message of "Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:49:58 -0500") Message-ID: <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:05:31 -0000 "Michael D. Norwick" writes: > Thank You for the replies. Got the part about not mounting an audio > CD. I wasn't trying to. Inserting the disc in the drive brought up > the error message. Mounting a data CD or DVD acts normally and the > filesystem on it can be accessed. Okay, so what *are* you you using to try to play the CD? Someone suggested cdcontrol, but these days a lot of computers don't come with the cable to get analog audio directly off the drive. That's why the FAQ suggests xmcd, although it's far from the only option; most of the big desktop environments come with a CD playing application that gets the data digitally. For example, I think the Gnome application is "brasero". 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(I do not know what could be). >> > > This is one of those ask a hundred different people get 100 different > answers. I prefer KDE which would work well for you because both KDE and > VirtualBox are built on QT4, a rather large system. KDE isn't really that > heavy though relatively speaking. VirtualBox runs great for me and does all > you indicated. > > >> >> What do you think is the best option to save hardware resources and >> accomplish this task ? Something important is that this lab machine will be >> connected directly with the ISP (public IP's) and I will need to connect >> remotely to control the server and the other OS's. >> > > You will probably want a CPU and chipset that has hardware assist for > virtualization, and plenty of RAM for both host and guests. Disk choice > should reflect your data capacity, redundancy, and speed needs. A good > quality Intel NIC is always nice. If the OP is going to run a 64-bit OS, then hardware vitualization assist is *required* for VirtualBox to handle it. It is not required when VirtualBox is running a 32-bit OS. 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outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1A6B8FC0A for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1REIKa-00061v-1L>; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:16:04 +0200 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1REIKZ-0006Tq-Ve>; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:16:04 +0200 Message-ID: <4E96BA63.3040001@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:16:03 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111003 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Cc: Subject: Dell Poweredge 1950 III (PE_SC3): replacement SAS controller to acceess drives >= 3TB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:16:05 -0000 Hello out there. We run a Dell PowerEdge 950 III (PE_SC3) Server with FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE. This Server is equipted with a SAS controller, residing, as far as I could observe, on a PCIe slot. Its kernel message is: mpt0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xfc4fc000-0xfc4fffff,0xfc4e0000-0xfc4effff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 mpt0: [ITHREAD] mpt0: MPI Version=1.5.14.0 mpt0: Capabilities: ( RAID-0 RAID-1E RAID-1 ) mpt0: 0 Active Volumes (2 Max) mpt0: 0 Hidden Drive Members (14 Max) The pciconf -lcv output is as: mpt0@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x010000 card=0x1f101028 chip=0x00581000 rev=0x08 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)' device = 'SAS 3000 series, 8-port with 1068E -StorPort' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI cap 01[50] = powerspec 2 supports D0 D1 D2 D3 current D0 cap 10[68] = PCI-Express 1 endpoint max data 256(4096) link x4(x8) cap 05[98] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit cap 11[b0] = MSI-X supports 1 message in map 0x14 enabled ecap 0001[100] = AER 1 0 fatal 0 non-fatal 0 corrected This controller obviously isn't capable of handling 3TB harddrives and I need it to be replaced - but I do not know what type and brand of controller is suitbale for the Dell PowerEdge III. We already contacted our support, but they rejected support, since the BIOS of this server isn't capable of booting off 3 TB harddrives due to the 32bit limitations. Well, I need the controller to attach 3 and 4 TB drives, we still boot off from legacy BIOS capable < 2,2 TB drives, so I see no issue to replace the SAS controller. I'm a bit afraid of buying something "out of the blue" since the dimensions of this little controller board seems small. I hope someone already made a decission to buy such a replacement for their similar or exact the same system and can help me out. We do not need RAID, nor SAS 2.0 capabilities, just JBOD. Thanks a lot in advance, Oliver P.S. Please also reply to my email, I'm not subsribing "questions" in case you reply. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 11:38:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FCB1065680 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:38:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4688FC08 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1REJcg-0006sL-HG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:38:50 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:38:50 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:38:50 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:38:31 +0200 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <4E96BA63.3040001@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD36B5EE89D375F76C7B33790" X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111004 Thunderbird/7.0.1 In-Reply-To: <4E96BA63.3040001@zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell Poweredge 1950 III (PE_SC3): replacement SAS controller to acceess drives >= 3TB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:38:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD36B5EE89D375F76C7B33790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13/10/2011 12:16, O. Hartmann wrote: >=20 > I'm a bit afraid of buying something "out of the blue" since the > dimensions of this little controller board seems small. I hope someone > already made a decission to buy such a replacement for their similar or= > exact the same system and can help me out. >=20 > We do not need RAID, nor SAS 2.0 capabilities, just JBOD. Thanks a lot > in advance, This is somewhat tangential but if the server has an internal USB port (directly on the motherboard), you *could* use it just for boot+root for the OS and then have buy any kind of controller which supports your drives. Almost all modern servers have this, but the 1950 is a bit old...= In the same direction: if you have the space and the cabling, you could just add a single small drive and connect it to the motherboard SATA controller (non-RAID) and boot from that. --------------enigD36B5EE89D375F76C7B33790 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6WzbcACgkQldnAQVacBcgEYwCeMvrhgglAbVfiTBNcCmTKUdpQ h1YAoKOxF1TwtP35Al8ljQUoMJRBQwrf =+U34 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD36B5EE89D375F76C7B33790-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 12:05:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F212C106571E for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from otacilio.neto@bsd.com.br) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E388FC17 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:05:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggeq3 with SMTP id q3so2260180gge.13 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 05:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.181.131 with SMTP id l3mr3929794yhm.105.1318505753554; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.104] ([187.115.184.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s42sm6921048yhs.0.2011.10.13.04.35.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E96CD0F.1090903@bsd.com.br> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:35:43 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Otac=EDlio?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110921 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: LibreOffice Writer crashes when accessing the fonts pull down list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:05:49 -0000 >On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 09:41 +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote: >> Hi List >> >> I've got a problem with the above. >> >> I've not made any changes other than updated the ports when so is needed. >> >> If I do the setting/change of the font via the menu, I can get what I >> want. But if I pull down the fonts list and start scrolling, Writer will >> crash. > >I just replaced openoffice with libreoffice and I see similar behaviour. >Simply opening the drop-down font list instigates the segfault or crash >- I've seen instances both where a segmentation fault is reported and >core dumped, and where the application exits silently. > >Changing the font via the menus or typing in the font name text box >doesn't instigate the crash. > >It also crashes when the menu "Tools->Language->For all Text->More..." >is accessed, but not for either of the "For Selection->More..." or "For >Paragraph->More..." menus. > ># make showconfig >===> The following configuration options are available for >libreoffice-3.4.3_1: > WEBDAV=off "Support webdav protocol" > KDE4=off "With Qt4/KDE4 vclplug support" > GTK=on "With GTK vclplug support" > GNOME=on "Better integration in gnome environnement" > JAVA=off "Add Java support (XML Filters, macros)" > PYUNO=off "Allow to script libreoffice in python" > SYSTRAY=off "Enable systemtry quickstarter" > MMEDIA=off "Enable multimedia backend for impress" > SDK=off "Build with SDK" > DEBUG=off "Build with debug symbols and verbose output" >===> Use 'make config' to modify these settings ># uname -rms >FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE i386 > > >> PS: I could only find a list for freebsd-openoffice when I wanted to >> post this. So I choose the questions list instead. > >The freebsd-openoffice@ list was closed recently, and freebsd-office@ is >now the common list for "office" applications. > > >Wayne Dears I have (exactly!) the same problem! Simply opening the drop-down font list instigates the segfault or crash! This is my system: squitch# make showconfig ===> The following configuration options are available for libreoffice-3.4.3_1: WEBDAV=on "Support webdav protocol" KDE4=off "With Qt4/KDE4 vclplug support" GTK=on "With GTK vclplug support" GNOME=on "Better integration in gnome environnement" JAVA=off "Add Java support (XML Filters, macros)" PYUNO=on "Allow to script libreoffice in python" SYSTRAY=off "Enable systemtry quickstarter" MMEDIA=on "Enable multimedia backend for impress" SDK=off "Build with SDK" DEBUG=off "Build with debug symbols and verbose output" ===> Use 'make config' to modify these settings squitch# uname -rms FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p2 i386 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 12:34:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5AE10656E6 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:34:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D888FC08 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:34:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (lumumba.torservers.net [77.247.181.163]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E2E525A95; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:02:27 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:34:15 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111013123415.GA5025@external.screwed.box> References: <20110615000951.GD5630@external.screwed.box> <4DF803F5.8040400@FreeBSD.org> <20110615025132.GF5630@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110615025132.GF5630@external.screwed.box> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Cc: Greg Larkin Subject: cvs mirror on 8, 5G dvd? Re: Extract particular date snapshot from /var/db/portsnap? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:34:57 -0000 Hello. I think I should correct myself as what I found that way was unexpected, even after aside from portsnap. 2011/06/15 06:51:32 +0400 Peter Vereshagin => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : PV> GL> cvs -d :ext:anoncvs@anoncvs1.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs export -D 2010-10-01 PV> GL> -d ports-2010-10-01 ports PV> GL> PV> GL> In this example, I am exporting (no CVS metadata dirs) a full ports tree PV> GL> as of Oct 1st, 2010 into the directory "ports-2010-10-01". First of all Thank you very much as it was unobvious to know that from manuals like: http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.htm PV> Sure, I know I can do it with (x)VCS. This one was wrong: ports are available from CVS only. No svn, p4, etc. PV> But hell yes, having VCS before such a situation to happen is good. "Just if we This one seem insufficient now. I checked out ports from 'anoncvs': cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.tw.FreeBSD.org:/home/ncvs co ports and there is no backup for the deleted ports of my interest. I mean for example I can not get the directory of x11/wmfstatus as it is deleted at this moment. I suppose such a download is not the all what I assume it to be: backup of each and every port's versions till the moment being. So I just rsync rsync://mirrorsite/pub/FreeBSD/development/FreeBSD-CVS/ports ./ and later I can just 'cvs export' any directory for any date from there, right? I suppose I'd put it on a double-layer dvd, is it possible to export from there? It is noted that: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/hubs/mirror-requirements.html 5.4G is sufficient. Another question wth cvs is: can I get the particular port in its state of N(=1,2, ...) changes ago? It seems to be possible only to look up particular version for the particular file and checkout it but not for the directory (assuming the port is a directory). At the least how to look up the list of dates when the directory was changed should be great. -- Peter Vereshagin (http://vereshagin.org) pgp: A0E26627 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 12:53:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0736110656D8 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE178FC13 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:53:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-66.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.66]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148353C6E1; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:53:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9DCrpeE001875; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:53:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:53:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Jakub Lach Message-Id: <20111013145351.459578ce.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1318494049092-4898453.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <20111013021459.6eb958f1.freebsd@edvax.de> <3908D37D-F2C5-422C-82AE-020F10AD28C2@mac.com> <1318494049092-4898453.post@n5.nabble.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:53:54 -0000 On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:20:49 -0700 (PDT), Jakub Lach wrote: > Strange thing is, that cdcontrol "works" > for me, disc is spinning but no sound > out of speakers. If there is no entry for CD in the mixer, but for PCM, it seems to indicate why playback from disk works, but even (assumed) playback from CD cannot be heared. % mixer -f /dev/mixer0 Mixer vol is currently set to 5:5 Mixer pcm is currently set to 100:100 Mixer line is currently set to 75:75 Mixer mic is currently set to 0:0 Mixer cd is currently set to 75:75 <=== THIS ONE Mixer rec is currently set to 75:75 Mixer igain is currently set to 0:0 Mixer monitor is currently set to 75:75 Recording source: mic This is from a HDA audio with 3 pcm devices and 3 mixer devices. > Before CAM it was the same, if > I recall correctly, however then > I used something like cdparanoia > or cdrtools to play cds. If I remember correctly, cdrtools is the port that brings cdrecord. There are text mode and X CD player programs (such as XMMS with CD audio plugin, or the simple xcd) which you could try. > So I'm afraid, that cdcontrol is not > best diagnostic tool. It's a simple and _predictable_ tool which you can use to make the CD drive start playing. Everything _next_ in the signal chain (i. e. the mixer) is handled by other tools. So if you assume that "cdcontrol -f /dev/acd0 play" makes the CD play, then use the "mixer" command to check all the possible audio settings to find the next thin in the signal chain that could be wrong. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 13:04:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239AC1065708 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jakub_lach@mailplus.pl) Received: from sam.nabble.com (sam.nabble.com [216.139.236.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6BF8FC18 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.236.26] (helo=sam.nabble.com) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1REKxf-0002ez-8g for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:04:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:04:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jakub Lach To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1318511075263-4899154.post@n5.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <20111013145351.459578ce.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <20111013021459.6eb958f1.freebsd@edvax.de> <3908D37D-F2C5-422C-82AE-020F10AD28C2@mac.com> <1318494049092-4898453.post@n5.nabble.com> <20111013145351.459578ce.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:04:36 -0000 Correct, "cd" entry from mixer is missing. However, then it didn't stop other tools from working (I think that at one point I also used mplayer for CD playback). best regards and thanks, - Jakub Lach -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/Can-t-access-a-music-CD-tp4886683p4899154.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 16:12:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B00E106566C for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlmichael70@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AE18FC08 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:12:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so1930780wwe.31 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:12:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+YImRQty6I9liEQilWwkk1o3WzDBGoEH9V/2AlE8/Bg=; b=Ppe+eJmbgv5T0y2Vj+kxNh/ZGAaKMpcwvLC2yccb0+ZwQzwp3XFBKGkaCJQI2z8tH6 g/4Dts83nh00yMyZLDftSzkr5qVlumMexTLqvFAPhHXmpn1xRPXuGX7Kc1YtPiLFGzdp H6sltT3dhUZp3Wz6XBn9ZoCayMsQMtQJIXAJg= Received: by 10.227.59.147 with SMTP id l19mr1504513wbh.38.1318522356000; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prime.nonspace (94.197.127.124.threembb.co.uk. [94.197.127.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p2sm6857417wbo.17.2011.10.13.09.12.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E970E02.1090202@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:12:50 +0100 From: Michael User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111001 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: alternative for user immutable flag on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:12:37 -0000 Hello, I have some important files in my home directory and I want to make sure that they are not changed/removed by my mistake. So I'm looking for something that prevents all programs (like rm) from changing these files even if I tell them to do so. But then on some rare occasions I really need to modify them so there must be a way of clearing these restrictions. And all that from my user account without root privileges. Normally I would set user immutable flag, which can be manually cleared in case when I know what I'm doing. The problem is that I can't get them to work on ZFS and it looks that it's not supported. Are there any alternatives or different ways to achieve my goal? I'm using FreeBSD 8.2-Release. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 16:25:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id 86D9A1065670; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:25:24 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Cc: "Michael D. Norwick" Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:25:24 -0000 On Wed Oct 12 11, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > "Michael D. Norwick" writes: > > > Thank You for the replies. Got the part about not mounting an audio > > CD. I wasn't trying to. Inserting the disc in the drive brought up > > the error message. Mounting a data CD or DVD acts normally and the > > filesystem on it can be accessed. > > Okay, so what *are* you you using to try to play the CD? > Someone suggested cdcontrol, but these days a lot of > computers don't come with the cable to get analog audio > directly off the drive. That's why the FAQ suggests xmcd, > although it's far from the only option; most of the big > desktop environments come with a CD playing application > that gets the data digitally. For example, I think the > Gnome application is "brasero". i think cdcontrol(1) should be adjusted, so that it supports digital audio CD playback. actually analog audio hasn't really been supported by mainboard manufacturers for > 10 years. i have a board which comes with an audio connector, but attaching a cable to it, which is attached to a dvd drive doesn't work, for whatever reasons. i also believe newer dvd and br sata devices don't even come with an analog connector nowadays. another application which supports digitally playing audio cds is mplayer(1) via 'mplayer cdda:://' or 'mplayer cddb://'. ano ther thought might be to implement an audio cd filesystem, so one could do 'mount -o audiocdfs /dev/cd0 /media/cd' and then all tracks appear as RAW pcm audio files. maybe fuse comes with something like this? cheers. alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 16:37:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC94A1065675 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1708FC1A for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:37:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe3 with SMTP id 3so1970286wwe.31 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.177.138 with SMTP id d10mr1400202wem.98.1318523833249; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n21sm7113285wbp.2.2011.10.13.09.37.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E9713B6.4010503@my.gd> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:37:10 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E970E02.1090202@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E970E02.1090202@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: alternative for user immutable flag on ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:37:14 -0000 On 10/13/11 6:12 PM, Michael wrote: > Hello, > > I have some important files in my home directory and I want to make sure > that they are not changed/removed by my mistake. > > So I'm looking for something that prevents all programs (like rm) from > changing these files even if I tell them to do so. But then on some rare > occasions I really need to modify them so there must be a way of > clearing these restrictions. And all that from my user account without > root privileges. > > Normally I would set user immutable flag, which can be manually cleared > in case when I know what I'm doing. The problem is that I can't get them > to work on ZFS and it looks that it's not supported. > > Are there any alternatives or different ways to achieve my goal? I'm > using FreeBSD 8.2-Release. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Something that would part address your problem is taking snapshots of the directory with your important files... Sure, this doesn't replace the immutable flag, but it surely achieves what you want. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 17:26:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B9D1065672 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC158FC15 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:26:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.48]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F892A715DE for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22290 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2011 17:26:31 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 19040, pid: 14229, t: 0.1428s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Oct 2011 17:26:31 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D8AA32E0DA; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:26:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Alexander Best References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:26:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> (Alexander Best's message of "Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:25:24 +0000") Message-ID: <44wrc8iz09.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:26:33 -0000 Alexander Best writes: > ano ther thought might be to implement an audio cd filesystem, so one could do > 'mount -o audiocdfs /dev/cd0 /media/cd' and then all tracks appear as RAW pcm > audio files. maybe fuse comes with something like this? > /dev/acdt is no longer supported? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 17:27:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88D51065677 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nm.knife@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC3B8FC18 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so193608vws.13 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:27:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5IW2/yjRqTxjR5qKG6uMQ9lQq/ZRrUfm5/UeFYE8v4c=; b=MXcjbVnHVt93H1e5G/6j4qgHOkqKNjPvrumLYosdyclniKlCrPUDtG4oxvM0XpdiUX bOR514z6Zl5w8193bV3icGbdXAsfNK+8V0CWSmEaOqT08gtP7NTnSYE1ADvRtoTP5DXb HiHs60EVEks0yBf6QQPS1wwL3Hk5gswmolCaE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.152.66 with SMTP id uw2mr3034802obb.17.1318526822615; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.116.36 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:27:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E96CD0F.1090903@bsd.com.br> References: <4E96CD0F.1090903@bsd.com.br> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:27:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: =?windows-1251?B?y/7h7uzo8CDD8Ojj7vDu4g==?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: LibreOffice Writer crashes when accessing the fonts pull down list X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:27:03 -0000 Same crash issue on pull down of the fonts menu here as well. I used the precompiled PBI in PCBSD 9.0-BETA3 $ uname -a FreeBSD NEONZ 9.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 9.0-BETA3 #1: Tue Sep 27 13:47:21 PDT 2011 root@build9x64.pcbsd.org:/usr/obj/pcbsd-build90/fbsd-source/9.0/sys/GENERIC amd64 -- Lyubomir Grigorov (bgalakazam) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 18:08:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7F1106566B for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unix.hacker@comcast.net) Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430DC8FC18 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kHTW1h0061ei1Bg57J8xxu; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:08:57 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([68.43.224.227]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kJ8w1h00R4uzdYs3kJ8xRM; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:08:57 +0000 Message-ID: <4E972939.5030505@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:08:57 -0400 From: Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20111011160619.840c69f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111011222327.6002c397@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <20111011222327.6002c397@dijkstra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Turning system accounting data into money X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:08:57 -0000 *snip* On 10/11/2011 4:23 PM, Christopher J. Ruwe wrote: > Cannot be of any direct help, but ... > > You remember that 'astronomer chases hacker on Berkely computer > systes'- novel, Cliff Stoll: The Cookoo's Egg? If not, try wikipedia. > As an aside, I was told that at some universities' CS-classes, it is > required lecture. In that novel, user's departments where charged > according to resources spent on the university's computers and the > main figure was tasked to find out about a 0.75$ accounting error and > found a hacker instead. The system in the novel was a Berkeley Unix. > So, systems that do what you want (and customers who want to pay on a > per use basis) must be around for quite some time. The novel is > copyrighted 1989, I cannot track when the real event circling around > a certain Markus Hess, cf. also wikipedia, took place. My guess about > the system is 4.3BSD Tahoe or earlier 4.3BSD. > > Cheers, I actually found that book not very long ago at a used book store. It was neat; I went in with my Wife, saw that, started reading the back, saw Berkeley, and bought it. At first I wasn't sure how it would go, but as I kept reading, I started knocking out like 5 chapters at a time, and reading multiple times a day. It was a REALLY good book, and, yea, the Copyright, on mine at least, says "1989" and "1990" but, in the book, he does name years in it. Some of them I know are 1987, and some I think were much earlier, but I don't think any of the time frames he gave were before 1985 or so, but I'd have to check, as I finished it and read the last chapter a while ago. I thought it was funny that a 75 cent accounting error was how they figured out a complete ring of "chaos" lol. And of course, you can't help but laugh at the VMS joke, and, the System V jokes. -Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 18:25:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBC8106566B; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D0D48FC08; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-66.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.66]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A071E88A; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:24:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9DIOuBZ001896; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:24:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:24:56 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Alexander Best Message-Id: <20111013202456.3b59d88c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:25:00 -0000 On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:25:24 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > ano ther thought might be to implement an audio cd filesystem, so one could do > 'mount -o audiocdfs /dev/cd0 /media/cd' and then all tracks appear as RAW pcm > audio files. maybe fuse comes with something like this? What about /dev/acd0t[01,02,03,...] - aren't those supposed to represent the individual audio tracks that could then be interpreted as what they basically are, raw pcm (of cd-audio specification)? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 21:42:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DDD10656A7 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from masmidow@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17798FC08 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:42:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so673774qyk.13 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:42:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=iyvAchBScCRRukdWl8EFUrJAOMkv8hH/6zBYISTQZLo=; b=pSMiW8VJSiiLPYBQyPXPgPHhyid2DLyv+5IS6wmGJl1aE/8yWNKMMvTV86xQ7Ku9HF rEdLE9C4jTeD1QjIoEQtPD/7zs5qL9iQDQ1R+1ySbgYxVxBrTPVOin0LAXmibaZM0dom cuhOtIzRq4pVH4u+6PHnLE08KXtoPdSYQoNWM= Received: by 10.229.23.206 with SMTP id s14mr1210191qcb.178.1318542124135; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:42:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.71.75 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:41:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Starr Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:41:44 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:00:09 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Wifi Scanner Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:42:05 -0000 Hey, I use multiple wireless networks on a daily basis and they are different each day. Is there a simple gnome wifi scanner that allows me to easily connect my laptop to the available network? I have been looking... This would be very helpful. I want one similar to the one in Ubuntu where it lists available networks. This would be so great. Thanks for any advice. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 22:03:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id 5FB0D1065674; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:03:29 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20111013220329.GA22983@freebsd.org> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> <20111013202456.3b59d88c.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111013202456.3b59d88c.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:03:29 -0000 On Thu Oct 13 11, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:25:24 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > > ano ther thought might be to implement an audio cd filesystem, so one could do > > 'mount -o audiocdfs /dev/cd0 /media/cd' and then all tracks appear as RAW pcm > > audio files. maybe fuse comes with something like this? > > What about /dev/acd0t[01,02,03,...] - aren't those supposed > to represent the individual audio tracks that could then be > interpreted as what they basically are, raw pcm (of cd-audio > specification)? i inserted an audio cd and they didn't turn up. i guess ATA_CAM doesn't support individual nodes for tracks. cheers. alex > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 22:13:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302521065670 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A859C8FC0A for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:13:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:43:25 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: mikel king In-Reply-To: <20111013203815.GA77278@slackbox.erewhon.net> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:43:25 -0400 Message-Id: <011A9DDF-464D-49A7-B0F9-96AF6360ED62@olivent.com> References: <20111013203815.GA77278@slackbox.erewhon.net> To: Roland Smith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:13:33 -0000 On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants = on whose > shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, I think = it would > be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements. >=20 > His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are = a > legacy that few can match. >=20 > Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate = the > upcoming 9.0 release in his memory. >=20 > Alternatively, an tribute on the FreeBSD website would be fitting, = wouldn't it? >=20 > Roland > --=20 > R.F.Smith = http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much = appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: = C321A725) I think this would be a fitting tribute... Regards, Mikel King mikel.king@olivent.com o: 631.627.3055 | c: 646.530.3320 | skype: mikel.king | = http://bit.ly/mk-resume http://bit.ly/mk-twttr | http://linkd.in/mk-in | http://on.fb.me/mk-fb | = http://bit.ly/mk-contact From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 22:27:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24F7106566B; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9145B8FC13; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-66.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.66]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B141E789; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:27:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9DMRQmX002682; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:27:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:27:26 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Alexander Best Message-Id: <20111014002726.b16c9a5a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111013220329.GA22983@freebsd.org> References: <4E924B4D.4050801@centurytel.net> <20111010063740.GA23603@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> <20111013202456.3b59d88c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111013220329.GA22983@freebsd.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:27:29 -0000 On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:03:29 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > On Thu Oct 13 11, Polytropon wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:25:24 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > > > ano ther thought might be to implement an audio cd filesystem, so one could do > > > 'mount -o audiocdfs /dev/cd0 /media/cd' and then all tracks appear as RAW pcm > > > audio files. maybe fuse comes with something like this? > > > > What about /dev/acd0t[01,02,03,...] - aren't those supposed > > to represent the individual audio tracks that could then be > > interpreted as what they basically are, raw pcm (of cd-audio > > specification)? > > i inserted an audio cd and they didn't turn up. i guess ATA_CAM doesn't support > individual nodes for tracks. When using the (now default) CAM methods (ATAPICAM), I think this is true. Example with a regular music CD: % cdcontrol info Starting track = 1, ending track = 19, TOC size = 162 bytes track start duration block length type ------------------------------------------------- 1 0:02.00 2:05.01 0 9376 audio 2 2:07.01 1:45.53 9376 7928 audio 3 3:52.54 2:37.49 17304 11824 audio 4 6:30.28 1:52.00 29128 8400 audio 5 8:22.28 2:08.29 37528 9629 audio 6 10:30.57 2:23.01 47157 10726 audio 7 12:53.58 4:01.01 57883 18076 audio 8 16:54.59 3:12.37 75959 14437 audio 9 20:07.21 2:09.00 90396 9675 audio 10 22:16.21 4:19.67 100071 19492 audio 11 26:36.13 3:28.00 119563 15600 audio 12 30:04.13 3:48.73 135163 17173 audio 13 33:53.11 3:51.38 152336 17363 audio 14 37:44.49 1:27.72 169699 6597 audio 15 39:12.46 2:15.15 176296 10140 audio 16 41:27.61 2:35.01 186436 11626 audio 17 44:02.62 2:11.00 198062 9825 audio 18 46:13.62 2:37.01 207887 11776 audio 19 48:50.63 2:48.01 219663 12601 audio 170 51:38.64 - 232264 - - % ls /dev/acd0* /dev/acd0 /dev/acd0t04 /dev/acd0t08 /dev/acd0t12 /dev/acd0t16 /dev/acd0t01 /dev/acd0t05 /dev/acd0t09 /dev/acd0t13 /dev/acd0t17 /dev/acd0t02 /dev/acd0t06 /dev/acd0t10 /dev/acd0t14 /dev/acd0t18 /dev/acd0t03 /dev/acd0t07 /dev/acd0t11 /dev/acd0t15 /dev/acd0t19 % ls /dev/cd0* /dev/cd0 Maybe obtaining a TOC listing of the CD is required to make the track files appear? However, they are only present for the ATAPI based access (acd0), not for the "SCSI" CAM based one (cd0). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 22:38:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id A18F11065673; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:38:45 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:38:45 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20111013223845.GA28792@freebsd.org> References: <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> <20111013202456.3b59d88c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111013220329.GA22983@freebsd.org> <20111014002726.b16c9a5a.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111014002726.b16c9a5a.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:38:45 -0000 On Fri Oct 14 11, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:03:29 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > > On Thu Oct 13 11, Polytropon wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:25:24 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > > > > ano ther thought might be to implement an audio cd filesystem, so one could do > > > > 'mount -o audiocdfs /dev/cd0 /media/cd' and then all tracks appear as RAW pcm > > > > audio files. maybe fuse comes with something like this? > > > > > > What about /dev/acd0t[01,02,03,...] - aren't those supposed > > > to represent the individual audio tracks that could then be > > > interpreted as what they basically are, raw pcm (of cd-audio > > > specification)? > > > > i inserted an audio cd and they didn't turn up. i guess ATA_CAM doesn't support > > individual nodes for tracks. > > When using the (now default) CAM methods (ATAPICAM), I think > this is true. > > Example with a regular music CD: > > % cdcontrol info > Starting track = 1, ending track = 19, TOC size = 162 bytes > track start duration block length type > ------------------------------------------------- > 1 0:02.00 2:05.01 0 9376 audio > 2 2:07.01 1:45.53 9376 7928 audio > 3 3:52.54 2:37.49 17304 11824 audio > 4 6:30.28 1:52.00 29128 8400 audio > 5 8:22.28 2:08.29 37528 9629 audio > 6 10:30.57 2:23.01 47157 10726 audio > 7 12:53.58 4:01.01 57883 18076 audio > 8 16:54.59 3:12.37 75959 14437 audio > 9 20:07.21 2:09.00 90396 9675 audio > 10 22:16.21 4:19.67 100071 19492 audio > 11 26:36.13 3:28.00 119563 15600 audio > 12 30:04.13 3:48.73 135163 17173 audio > 13 33:53.11 3:51.38 152336 17363 audio > 14 37:44.49 1:27.72 169699 6597 audio > 15 39:12.46 2:15.15 176296 10140 audio > 16 41:27.61 2:35.01 186436 11626 audio > 17 44:02.62 2:11.00 198062 9825 audio > 18 46:13.62 2:37.01 207887 11776 audio > 19 48:50.63 2:48.01 219663 12601 audio > 170 51:38.64 - 232264 - - cdcontrol> info Starting track = 1, ending track = 9, TOC size = 82 bytes track start duration block length type ------------------------------------------------- 1 0:02.00 5:58.35 0 26885 audio 2 6:00.35 5:06.06 26885 22956 audio 3 11:06.41 5:40.57 49841 25557 audio 4 16:47.23 5:52.37 75398 26437 audio 5 22:39.60 4:14.09 101835 19059 audio 6 26:53.69 5:16.25 120894 23725 audio 7 32:10.19 3:14.54 144619 14604 audio 8 35:24.73 6:24.15 159223 28815 audio 9 41:49.13 6:16.51 188038 28251 audio 170 48:05.64 - 216289 - - > > % ls /dev/acd0* > /dev/acd0 /dev/acd0t04 /dev/acd0t08 /dev/acd0t12 /dev/acd0t16 > /dev/acd0t01 /dev/acd0t05 /dev/acd0t09 /dev/acd0t13 /dev/acd0t17 > /dev/acd0t02 /dev/acd0t06 /dev/acd0t10 /dev/acd0t14 /dev/acd0t18 > /dev/acd0t03 /dev/acd0t07 /dev/acd0t11 /dev/acd0t15 /dev/acd0t19 otaku% ls|grep cd cd0 cdrom > > % ls /dev/cd0* > /dev/cd0 > > Maybe obtaining a TOC listing of the CD is required to make the > track files appear? However, they are only present for the ATAPI > based access (acd0), not for the "SCSI" CAM based one (cd0). > > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 23:00:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300BA1065679 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:00:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61618FC14 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-41-66.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.41.66]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58D93CE75; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:00:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9DN02Be001885; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:00:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:00:02 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Alexander Best Message-Id: <20111014010002.3fa2713c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111013223845.GA28792@freebsd.org> References: <4E92BF3C.8080807@centurytel.net> <20111010104450.GA28895@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> <20111013202456.3b59d88c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111013220329.GA22983@freebsd.org> <20111014002726.b16c9a5a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111013223845.GA28792@freebsd.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:00:18 -0000 On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:38:45 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > On Fri Oct 14 11, Polytropon wrote: > > % ls /dev/acd0* > > /dev/acd0 /dev/acd0t04 /dev/acd0t08 /dev/acd0t12 /dev/acd0t16 > > /dev/acd0t01 /dev/acd0t05 /dev/acd0t09 /dev/acd0t13 /dev/acd0t17 > > /dev/acd0t02 /dev/acd0t06 /dev/acd0t10 /dev/acd0t14 /dev/acd0t18 > > /dev/acd0t03 /dev/acd0t07 /dev/acd0t11 /dev/acd0t15 /dev/acd0t19 > > otaku% ls|grep cd > cd0 > cdrom % dmesg | grep ^acd acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA66 acd1: DVDROM at ata1-slave UDMA33 Those are parallel ATA drives, accessed by the ATAPI drivers. Because I can either access them as ATAPI drives as well as SCSI drives, they show up in both "subsystems": % atacontrol list ATA channel 1: Master: acd0 ATA/ATAPI revision 7 Slave: acd1 ATA/ATAPI revision 6 % camcontrol devlist at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,cd0) at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,cd1) In the kernel configuration, I have the following relevant settings: # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering device atapicam # For "SCSI over ATA" # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) options SCSI_DELAY=100 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI [5000] So I can use both /dev/cd0 and /dev/acd0 to access the same drive, just are required, e. g. /dev/cd0 (equals /dev/dvd for consistency with the growisofs manpage) for burning CDs, and /dev/acd0 for audio playback (when accessed with cdcontrol). OS is x86 v8.2 STABLE of August 2011 with (obviously) custom kernel. If I remember correctly, the cdcontrol utility talks to the ATAPI "subsystem" which now has been melted somehow with the ATAPICAM ("SCSI") way of accessing devices... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 23:23:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D4E106566B for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:23:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492E68FC14 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p9DNNBN8037951; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:23:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 77F14BACF; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:23:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:23:11 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Michael Starr Message-ID: <20111013232311.GA81317@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wifi Scanner Gnome X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:23:43 -0000 --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 02:41:44PM -0700, Michael Starr wrote: > Hey, >=20 > I use multiple wireless networks on a daily basis and they are different > each day. Is there a simple gnome wifi scanner that allows me to easily > connect my laptop to the available network? I have been looking... >=20 > This would be very helpful. I want one similar to the one in Ubuntu where= it > lists available networks. This would be so great. >=20 > Thanks for any advice. Have you tried the net-mgmt/wifimgr port? 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A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:46:48 -0000 --yFH6hwN92mUA4HK5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth mikel king on Thursday, 13 October 2011: > On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote: >=20 > > With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants o= n whose > > shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, I think i= t would > > be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements. > >=20 > > His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are a > > legacy that few can match. > >=20 > > Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate the > > upcoming 9.0 release in his memory. > >=20 > > Alternatively, an tribute on the FreeBSD website would be fitting, woul= dn't it? > >=20 > > Roland >=20 >=20 > I think this would be a fitting tribute... >=20 Hear, hear! --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --yFH6hwN92mUA4HK5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOl3hjAAoJEIpckszW26+RW7wH/2iFmn32fyFx0tImXjtKCBON YLRI7JoqvxQjsDCe/mCMihKt7OsBaxDxryXO3PTlEQxZt+tBFJJlwbx3ntK5PKOL 7Y7LEmJT2oCs4L/J5tzvTJlClZmLATdlrX22FxfH3rH2HvQjDTIutxvtE0WU6Nio 6XLCTn45A6iCxLS1ztL/AGD86Ejkg846uLg9o63YnsEDkWzgLCn6Iet9VvtrIv7h snNqs6OmFKpu6wQDfOKBPcAgoltKnT4CYyrdowKLTf5jpod6aszvFw8OBRxtJho9 Cc1eyjVd6pT0Deh7JSKlNQETltdd68Eb0sO1YaosRJelmjwXPJNVrqEkEZgXzDo= =IB0s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yFH6hwN92mUA4HK5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 13 23:53:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id 211941065670; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:53:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:53:02 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20111013235302.GA35875@freebsd.org> References: <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> <20111013202456.3b59d88c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111013220329.GA22983@freebsd.org> <20111014002726.b16c9a5a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111013223845.GA28792@freebsd.org> <20111014010002.3fa2713c.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111014010002.3fa2713c.freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:53:02 -0000 On Fri Oct 14 11, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:38:45 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > > On Fri Oct 14 11, Polytropon wrote: > > > % ls /dev/acd0* > > > /dev/acd0 /dev/acd0t04 /dev/acd0t08 /dev/acd0t12 /dev/acd0t16 > > > /dev/acd0t01 /dev/acd0t05 /dev/acd0t09 /dev/acd0t13 /dev/acd0t17 > > > /dev/acd0t02 /dev/acd0t06 /dev/acd0t10 /dev/acd0t14 /dev/acd0t18 > > > /dev/acd0t03 /dev/acd0t07 /dev/acd0t11 /dev/acd0t15 /dev/acd0t19 > > > > otaku% ls|grep cd > > cd0 > > cdrom > > % dmesg | grep ^acd > acd0: DVDR at ata1-master UDMA66 > acd1: DVDROM at ata1-slave UDMA33 > > Those are parallel ATA drives, accessed by the ATAPI drivers. > Because I can either access them as ATAPI drives as well as > SCSI drives, they show up in both "subsystems": > > % atacontrol list > ATA channel 1: > Master: acd0 ATA/ATAPI revision 7 > Slave: acd1 ATA/ATAPI revision 6 > > % camcontrol devlist > at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,cd0) > at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,cd1) > > In the kernel configuration, I have the following relevant > settings: > > # ATA and ATAPI devices > device ata > device atadisk # ATA disk drives > device ataraid # ATA RAID drives > device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives > device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives > device atapist # ATAPI tape drives > options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering > device atapicam # For "SCSI over ATA" > > # SCSI peripherals > device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) > device ch # SCSI media changers > device da # Direct Access (disks) > device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) > device cd # CD > device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) > device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) > options SCSI_DELAY=100 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI [5000] > > So I can use both /dev/cd0 and /dev/acd0 to access the same > drive, just are required, e. g. /dev/cd0 (equals /dev/dvd > for consistency with the growisofs manpage) for burning CDs, > and /dev/acd0 for audio playback (when accessed with cdcontrol). > > OS is x86 v8.2 STABLE of August 2011 with (obviously) custom > kernel. > > If I remember correctly, the cdcontrol utility talks to the > ATAPI "subsystem" which now has been melted somehow with the > ATAPICAM ("SCSI") way of accessing devices... yeah. you have "device atapicam" in your config, which creates cam emulation nodes under /dev and enables you to use cam specific software, such as camcontrol, cdrecord or growisofs. i'm running freebsd 10 and here the whole ata subsystem was merged into the cam subsystem. so atacontrol doesn't report anything. so the ata subsystem has been abandoned in favour of cam. that's why e.g. burncd is now unusable under freebsd. cheers. alex > > > > -- > Polytropon > Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 00:06:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848C6106564A; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4165F8FC0C; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-127-202.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.127.202]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02F3B3CE52; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:06:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id p9E06p4q002197; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:06:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:06:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Alexander Best Message-Id: <20111014020651.a1375595.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20111013235302.GA35875@freebsd.org> References: <4E9616FD.5080404@centurytel.net> <447h49yed0.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <4E9627A6.8000907@centurytel.net> <44vcrtohej.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <20111013162524.GA75476@freebsd.org> <20111013202456.3b59d88c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111013220329.GA22983@freebsd.org> <20111014002726.b16c9a5a.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111013223845.GA28792@freebsd.org> <20111014010002.3fa2713c.freebsd@edvax.de> <20111013235302.GA35875@freebsd.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Can't access a music CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:06:53 -0000 On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:53:02 +0000, Alexander Best wrote: > yeah. you have "device atapicam" in your config, which creates cam emulation > nodes under /dev and enables you to use cam specific software, such as > camcontrol, cdrecord or growisofs. Exactly that was my intention when adding it to the kernel configuration. :-) > i'm running freebsd 10 and here the whole ata subsystem was merged into the > cam subsystem. so atacontrol doesn't report anything. so the ata subsystem > has been abandoned in favour of cam. that's why e.g. burncd is now unusable > under freebsd. Thanks for that warning - another thing to pay attention to when stupidly assuming that granted functionality will stay available forever. :-) However, I haven't been using burncd for long time as it has been "broken" (for me) at some point in v5 already, that's why my decision to use cdrecord and cdrdao with the "SCSI command set". Still I'm curious how things will develop on application side with the new subsystem once it's established. At least I see abandoning the differentiation "acd0 vs. cd0" as a good thing. One drive - one device file to access it. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 02:45:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D42D106564A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:45:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from editor@d3photography.com) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BCE8FC0C for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35587278E5D4; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:49:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lft6VkL7ownT; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:48:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.0.131] (71-220-19-79.mpls.qwest.net [71.220.19.79]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28B12278E5D3; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:48:53 -0500 (CDT) References: <20111013203815.GA77278@slackbox.erewhon.net> <011A9DDF-464D-49A7-B0F9-96AF6360ED62@olivent.com> <20111013234643.GQ14162@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20111013234643.GQ14162@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <4CEAD4FC-1B7B-489D-8BBB-79CB9D9ADB10@d3photography.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A334) From: Ryan Coleman Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:45:38 -0500 To: Chip Camden Cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 02:45:56 -0000 I think this is a grand idea.=20 -- Ryan Coleman m. 612.910.3709 On Oct 13, 2011, at 18:46, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth mikel king on Thursday, 13 October 2011: >> On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote: >>=20 >>> With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants on= whose >>> shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, I think it= would >>> be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements. >>>=20 >>> His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are a >>> legacy that few can match. >>>=20 >>> Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate the >>> upcoming 9.0 release in his memory. >>>=20 >>> Alternatively, an tribute on the FreeBSD website would be fitting, would= n't it? >>>=20 >>> Roland >>=20 >>=20 >> I think this would be a fitting tribute... >>=20 >=20 > Hear, hear! >=20 > --=20 > .O. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com > ..O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com > OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 04:08:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134FC106566B for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:08:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra2bear@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959248FC1B for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:08:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzx1 with SMTP id zx1so1288394bkb.13 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:08:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=xjYKUzBuiBWxhpmTau4IkZiJWOhnzDU5BiowRf3eoPk=; b=xra5MmLTTrDXyRVRKmd3oUdEnmiLrPvQ1JPDqbc/7V2ipkDFBi9gigUvMp+A3R6/R5 dMQ5DNqcR715KzfDyecv7Nnc+GfZ8ejNtCvGkKMGyQBojhOkAI6tOHCLDahp5PypQlyx 5mhVOkP6iVCjVK/yAgHNv28b4GpeZ5dy71sjQ= Received: by 10.223.85.134 with SMTP id o6mr1132605fal.8.1318563593029; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:39:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.103.197 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:39:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Kryszkiewicz Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:39:29 -0700 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ports/distfiles via NFS or SSH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:08:54 -0000 I have several machines networked using NFS mounts or SSH and scp. Only one machine has internet connectivity - a laptop (machine vbear) with a wireless card (I'm in a temporary location for a few weeks and only wireless is available here). I tried to mount the ports tree on this machine to the other machines (machine mfc for instance) with: #mfc> cd /usr #mfc> mount_nfs vbear:/usr/ports ports and then installing the needed port on mfc. What happens is that the working directories and the entire local ports tree gets written to /var, so that I get /var/ports/usr/ports/devel/xxgdb/work.... and so on. /var fills up very quickly and I soon get "disk full" errors. How can I avoid this? I believe the solution is to point the ports Makefile to a different (local) working directory but point fetch to grab distfiles from the (remote) laptop, but I'm not sure how to do this. regards, Peter Kryszkiewicz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 05:12:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EE9106564A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59F88FC1B for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svmailmarshal.bytecraft.internal (svmailmarshal.bytecraft.internal [10.48.0.3]) by bcmelmx.bytecraft.au.com (8.13.8/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p9E4eBsC028309; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:40:17 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from MTaylor@bytecraft.com.au) Received: from svmailmel.bytecraft.internal (Not Verified[10.48.0.24]) by svmailmarshal.bytecraft.internal with MailMarshal (v6, 8, 4, 9558) id ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:40:10 +1100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:40:10 +1100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4E94A3B4.6000601@gmx.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Turning system accounting data into money Thread-Index: AcyIUpndAZv65ndGR+CHx8EymP7yGQB2IOeg From: "Murray Taylor" To: "Nikos Vassiliadis" , "Polytropon" Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Turning system accounting data into money X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:12:13 -0000 Follow up --- I have just been told that the issue will be resolved over the weekend -- there apparently is some other=20 issue being dealt with first. I should have the 44 files in the inbucket on Monday. =20 --=20 Murray Taylor Bytecraft Systems Special Projects Engineer P: +61 3 8710 0600 D: +61 3 9238 5168 F: +61 3 9238 5140 =20|_|0|_| "Absence of evidence =20|_|_|0| is not evidence of absence" =20|0|0|0| Carl Sagan =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Nikos Vassiliadis Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2011 7:15 AM To: Polytropon Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Turning system accounting data into money On 10/11/2011 5:06 PM, Polytropon wrote: > This is _not_ a spam message trying to sell something > stupid to the list. I'm just searching for a solution > to turn consumed computing resources into a number and > a currency symbol. :-) > > Reason: A growing amount of (my) customers seems to > like this concept: They speed a low fee for access to > systems and applications, and they want to pay according > to what they did with that system. The access fee covers > access and some basic services (backup& quota), and for > anything "more advanced" they want to be charged per > "units" used, or per "consumed resources". This can be dialog > time (SSH), disk I/O, disk occupied, pages printed (can happen) > or pages required to print on exceptional specific forms > (can happen once or twice a year and is charged with an > additional fee for fold, staple& mutilate). > > Sounds stupid? I have _real_ customers intendedly > requesting that payment model (instead of "just pay > amount n Euro a month and do whatever you like"). > > Accidentally, I remembered history. > > So I thought: This funcitonality has been present on > UNIX systems for many decades. But _how_ to use it? I > know there's the command set for accounting, for example > the "ac" command. But what does its output "total 7264.15" > mean? There also are "acct" (process accounting), "sa" > (for system accounting) and "pac" (for printer accounting, > just dooesn't seem to work with CUPS). > > I'd also like to use the /etc/csh.logout resp. ~/.logout > mechanism. When a user logs in, he will be presented the > program he uses (or a menu, in case he uses different ones). > This can also be a regular "remote desktop" session. When > he logs out, a message should be displayed that informs > him how much will be charged for the session. At the end > of the month, he should get an invoice with the proper > accumulated amount. > > For example, if a user wishes to issue a "make a backup > _now_, because I intendedly want _this_ current state > backed up _now_", this will be seen as additional I/O > load and disk occupation (because it's handled aside of > the regular backup runs that should be part of the > "basic package" charged with the "conneciton fee"). > Or as I said, he issues printing for stuff he cannot > print at home, so he will be charged for 500 pages. > And in case he transfers 10 GB data in, and 10 GB data > out, he will be charged for that traffic, as well as > for the I/O. > > The sessions in questions will be SSH sessions (text mode) > as well as SSH/X sessions (remote desktops). > > Maybe someone already uses something similar he wants > to share? Suggestions and inspirations are welcome. > > > > Yes, the builtin accounting facilities do most of the stuff you are interested in. Just add 'accounting_enable=3D"YES"' in your /etc/rc.conf, run '/etc/rc.d/accounting start' and use sa to examine the output. I believe the per-user accounting will fit the bill nicely. You did not mention jails, right? The networking part perhaps can be a firewall's job, though I don't know if the per-user IP traffic rules work properly. There were some problems regarding this ages ago... The builtin printing stuff I believe is for use with the ancient printing tools and I know nothing about CUPS... Hey, these are pretty old stuff you are looking for or perhaps this email was stuck in the mail server's queue for 25 years;) HTH, Nikos _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material.=20 E-mails may not be secure, may contain computer viruses and may be corrupted in transmission. 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What is the limitations in terms of swap devices under RELENG_8 (or 9)? A single swap dev appears to be limited to 32GB (there are truncation messages on boot). I am looking at a possible need of 2-20TB (probably more) with as much main memory that is affordable. I am working with large data sets and there are various ways of solving the problem sets but simply letting the processors swap as they work through a given problem is a possible technique. Processors, memory, storage, and other hardware are open issues but for the minute I'm doing things on the cheap, which, admittedly, has a certain intellectual amusement factor. TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 05:51:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D341065740 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (relay2.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F478FC0A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:51:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.93.1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (account sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.125.240] verified) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.13) with ESMTPSA id 20969733 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:51:07 +0700 Received: from admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p9E5p7Tf064028 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:51:07 +0700 (OMSST) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p9E5p76g064027 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:51:07 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:51:07 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20111014055107.GA63761@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> Mail-Followup-To: Victor Sudakov , FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.livejournal.com/pubkey.bml?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 Subject: RFC2544 benchmark implementation for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 05:51:12 -0000 Colleagues, Does anyone know of an RFC2544 network benchmark implementation for FreeBSD? What network benchmarking software do you use? There are some in ports/benchmarks like netpipe, dbs etc, which would you advise from personal experience? TIA. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 06:21:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4786E1065674 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpistanbulbilisim@setrow.com) Received: from mgw04-25.relay04.setrow.com (mgw04-25.relay04.setrow.com [212.252.24.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DCA8FC14 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mgw04-25.relay04.setrow.com (PowerMTA(TM) v3.5r15) id hivadi12p1cu for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:21:05 +0300 (envelope-from ) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:20:56 +0300 To: questions@freebsd.org From: =?utf-8?Q?=C4=B0stanbul_Bili=C5=9Fim?= Message-ID: <2e72e77429da341792e1525f2bdcf9cd@www.setrow.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Setrow Importance: Normal Precedence: bulk X-MAIL-INFORMATION: 42260545-7450-270-Tr-0-questions@freebsd.org-1 Delivered-To: =?utf-8?Q?=C4=B0stanbul_Bili=C5=9Fim_?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: =?utf-8?b?xLBzdGFuYnVsIEJpbGnFn2ltIGlsZSBCaXIgIEFkxLFtIMOWbmRl?= X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:21:14 -0000 Size =C3=B6zel b=C3=BClteni g=C3=B6rmek i=C3=A7in a=C5=9Fa=C4=9F=C4=B1daki = linke t=C4=B1klay=C4=B1n=C4=B1z:=20 T=C4=B1klay=C4=B1n=C4=B1z=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 12:21:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD4C1065670 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:21:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com) Received: from mail.r-bonomi.com (mx-out.r-bonomi.com [204.87.227.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB4E8FC14 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id p9ECKsUt039323 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:20:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:20:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi Message-Id: <201110141220.p9ECKsUt039323@mail.r-bonomi.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20111013234643.GQ14162@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:21:30 -0000 > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Oct 13 18:47:49 2011 > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:46:43 -0700 > From: Chip Camden > To: FreeBSD questions > Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion > > Quoth mikel king on Thursday, 13 October 2011: > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > > > > > With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants > > > on whose shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, > > > I think it would be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements. > > > > > > His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are > > > a legacy that few can match. > > > > > > Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate the > > > upcoming 9.0 release in his memory. > > > > > > Alternatively, an tribute on the FreeBSD website would be fitting, > > > wouldn't it? > > > > > > Roland > > > > > > I think this would be a fitting tribute... > > > > Hear, hear! I think it's fair to say it would be 'Ritchie-deserved'. Consider this another opinion in favor of the proposal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 13:33:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D75106564A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A5A8FC0A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaky10 with SMTP id y10so3424225iak.13 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:33:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ytRSPQ3mLZLWLB8wi5IpYZLcQZzs2yyxZZQgqnU4IZY=; b=rj/O7qFWzuYR2D2N8g37LRh3w4bBi5+RwJaOXeCCowu0mQSENfzhhRrArgmcPuKwFo sCyZsWPqRGSaY6GSnLuNW8RhuWbVidB+K4CqkOjYa9Y1d3GguoOWlO98X/s+9UPlXEtN FWKeEKgRJs4JvMJN7QtmnQs2uuKwUMkcT1gno= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.5.23 with SMTP id 23mr3781008ibt.46.1318597422360; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.199.15 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:03:42 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: boost issue freebsd 8.2 (32 bit) - infinite loop of boost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:33:31 -0000 Hello, I'm doing # portmaster x11/kde4 (per http://freebsd.kde.org/ports.php) The build is going in an infinite loop with boost... this, over and over again until the end of time: ===>>> Waiting on fetch & checksum for devel/boost-libs <<<=== ===> License check disabled, post has not defined LICENSE ===> Found saved configuration for boost-libs-1.45.0_1 => SHA256 Checksum mismatch for boost_1_45_0.tar.bz2 ===> Refetch for 1 more times files: boost_1_45_0.tar.bz2 ===> Vulnerability check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE ===> Found saved configuration for boost-libs-1.45.0_1 => boost_1_45_0.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles//. => Attempting to fetch http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/boost/boost/1.45.0//boost_1_34_0.tar.bz2 boost_1_34_0.tar.bz2 Control-C to stop and check things out... [foo]# ls -l /usr/ports/distfiles | grep boost -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9216 Nov 17 2010 boost_1_45_0.tar.bz2 But the "doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles//." looks suspicious! :-) any pointers or hints much appreciated! Thanks, Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 13:42:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A962106566C for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:42:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2265E8FC0C for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24137 invoked by uid 0); 14 Oct 2011 13:42:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Oct 2011 13:42:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=C6MS1dPeJHsk3L+0vPB7uSkCtqIFyhS4ePoN/JmUK9Y=; b=dezoiAJrDpqKf57q/BGs5y34TQpUaogH8uLAUxw4uncWHnjHpV5En4YD5BlbpZ6ubIqwTc6Z3DsjU7rXtpmuAbPCG1b/RcTG2JLwMZBQQAbNYI3bfB78z/WToWqpCrKd; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1REi22-0002PW-I2 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:42:39 -0600 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:41:24 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 07:41:24 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20111014134123.GC83001@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20111013234643.GQ14162@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <201110141220.p9ECKsUt039323@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Bu8it7iiRSEf40bY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201110141220.p9ECKsUt039323@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:42:40 -0000 --Bu8it7iiRSEf40bY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 07:20:54AM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > = = =20 > I think it's fair to say it would be 'Ritchie-deserved'. = = =20 = = =20 I'm conflicted about whether that's a good pun or a bad pun. = = =20 = = =20 = = =20 > = = =20 > Consider this another opinion in favor of the proposal. = = =20 = = =20 Y'know, I'm not sure whether it's appropriate to post obituaries on = = =20 official FreeBSD related Websites, but if it is, I can think of no better = = =20 time than now -- in honor of Dennis Ritchie, one of the most important = = =20 figures in all of Unix development, influential beyond what anyone is = = =20 likely to fully realized even outside of the Unix lineage itself. = = =20 = = =20 Yeah, I've just convinced myself. Even if it is generally not considered = = =20 appropriate, I think making an exception in this very exceptional case is = = =20 difficult to resist. I'll offer my voice in the chorus of support as = = =20 well. = = =20 = = =20 -- = = =20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] = = =20 [ Dennis Ritchie, Innovator: ] = = =20 [ http://blogstrapping.com/?page=3D2011.286.13.52.17 ] --Bu8it7iiRSEf40bY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk6YPAMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKV8lwCg8aKRypvJGTRRACb3PXdbbtoW dZYAn2v2piomWwqbrjgjfyWn0cqxBrCa =Frow -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Bu8it7iiRSEf40bY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 13:48:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0CD106564A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [75.99.82.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09F48FC0C for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio Connect 7.0.0 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:48:18 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: mikel king In-Reply-To: <20111014134123.GC83001@guilt.hydra> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:48:18 -0400 Message-Id: <4960302B-0685-4AAD-80FF-5A4BC388058B@olivent.com> References: <20111013234643.GQ14162@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <201110141220.p9ECKsUt039323@mail.r-bonomi.com> <20111014134123.GC83001@guilt.hydra> To: FreeBSD questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Chad Perrin Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 13:48:20 -0000 On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 07:20:54AM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: >>=20 >> I think it's fair to say it would be 'Ritchie-deserved'. = = =20 >=20 > I'm conflicted about whether that's a good pun or a bad pun. = = =20 >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> Consider this another opinion in favor of the proposal. = = =20 >=20 > Y'know, I'm not sure whether it's appropriate to post obituaries on = = =20 > official FreeBSD related Websites, but if it is, I can think of no = better = =20 > time than now -- in honor of Dennis Ritchie, one of the most important = = =20 > figures in all of Unix development, influential beyond what anyone is = = =20 > likely to fully realized even outside of the Unix lineage itself. = = =20 >=20 > Yeah, I've just convinced myself. Even if it is generally not = considered = =20 > appropriate, I think making an exception in this very exceptional case = is = =20 > difficult to resist. I'll offer my voice in the chorus of support as = = =20 > well. = = =20 Has anyone from the the project weighed in on this yet? 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[1]Click here and fill out the required field to resolve this problem References 1. http://aeylwib.tk/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 16:17:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0400F1065674 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:17:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Received: from pukruppa.de (pd95cabe3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.92.171.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3858FC17 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pukruppa.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pukruppa.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p9EGHF1P049821 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:17:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ulrich@pukruppa.de) Message-ID: <4E98608B.40705@pukruppa.de> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:17:15 +0200 From: "Kruppa, Peter Ulrich" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110921 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20111013203815.GA77278@slackbox.erewhon.net> <011A9DDF-464D-49A7-B0F9-96AF6360ED62@olivent.com> In-Reply-To: <011A9DDF-464D-49A7-B0F9-96AF6360ED62@olivent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:17:16 -0000 On 13.10.2011 23:43, mikel king wrote: > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > >> With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants on whose >> shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, I think it would >> be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements. >> >> His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are a >> legacy that few can match. >> >> Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate the >> upcoming 9.0 release in his memory. I believe this would be an appropriate gesture. Regards Peter. -- Peter Ulrich Kruppa Wuppertal Germany From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 16:23:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F2D106566B for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:23:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6928FC08 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyd10 with SMTP id 10so1631328eyd.13 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:23:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=u8hpiIwtKp76dwD3wJ7TzLtFXK/UKFNclRH48/HTXRE=; b=B8C0A9AaUUT/ofms6YfTFIf4UtzkQG/HP9BNf04Xe62lxd41S8dN84riYqPC0VdKO/ GvJ2+wNOYk+xJdMM5mwkRt/jW/FVLLFycWN4PDIqumwLxeLifK/Dm5JRwmhbVX4x9AK1 g/cJfskVEvoGV3Iwcj4aMilk7zoBV1HN6e3Kk= Received: by 10.213.13.3 with SMTP id z3mr119689ebz.113.1318609408135; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:23:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.105.211 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:22:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E98608B.40705@pukruppa.de> References: <20111013203815.GA77278@slackbox.erewhon.net> <011A9DDF-464D-49A7-B0F9-96AF6360ED62@olivent.com> <4E98608B.40705@pukruppa.de> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:22:48 +0300 Message-ID: To: "Kruppa, Peter Ulrich" Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=0015174c3db65e916f04af44adfe X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:23:29 -0000 --0015174c3db65e916f04af44adfe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 19:17, Kruppa, Peter Ulrich wrote: > > > On 13.10.2011 23:43, mikel king wrote: > >> >> On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote: >> >> With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants on >>> whose >>> shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, I think it >>> would >>> be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements. >>> >>> His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are a >>> legacy that few can match. >>> >>> Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate the >>> upcoming 9.0 release in his memory. >>> >> I believe this would be an appropriate gesture. > > +1 FreeBSD-9 Codename Ritchie. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. Please consider the environment before printing this email. --0015174c3db65e916f04af44adfe-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 16:44:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451E6106566B for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@gmx.com) Received: from mailout-eu.gmx.com (mailout-eu.gmx.com [213.165.64.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9427D8FC0A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Oct 2011 16:44:09 -0000 Received: from adsl-143.109.242.153.tellas.gr (EHLO [192.168.73.192]) [109.242.153.143] by mail.gmx.com (mp-eu004) with SMTP; 14 Oct 2011 18:44:09 +0200 X-Authenticated: #46156728 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19BOAYxTDtB3DAM4Kh/Jx/zaGx6WL41Td2atY/rQp wFO6PJlNL3kKGc Message-ID: <4E9866CF.6010209@gmx.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:43:59 +0300 From: Nikos Vassiliadis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Glatting References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very large swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:44:13 -0000 On 10/14/2011 8:08 AM, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > This is kind of stupid question but at a minimum I thought it would be > interesting to know. > > What is the limitations in terms of swap devices under RELENG_8 (or 9)? > > A single swap dev appears to be limited to 32GB (there are truncation > messages on boot). I am looking at a possible need of 2-20TB (probably > more) with as much main memory that is affordable. The limit is raised to 256GB in HEAD and RELENG_8 http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=225076 > I am working with large data sets and there are various ways of solving > the problem sets but simply letting the processors swap as they work > through a given problem is a possible technique. I would advise against this technique. Possibly, it's easier to design your program to user smaller amounts of memory and avoid swapping. After all, designing your program to use big amounts of swapped out memory *and* perform in a timely manner, can be very challenging. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 17:06:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA35106564A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from antonio@antonioshome.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1328FC14 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so450145wwi.31 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:06:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.200.15 with SMTP id eu15mr3140027wbb.77.1318610302156; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.95.68 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:38:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [87.223.51.243] Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:38:22 +0200 Message-ID: From: Antonio Vieiro To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: lock order reversal @ FreeBSD 9.0B3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:06:16 -0000 Hi all, I'm seeing weird messages at dmesg saying someting about "lock order reversal" (see below) on my FreeBSD 9.0 beta 3. I think this has something to do with the filesystem, so I'm a little bit worried. Does anybody know if this is a known bug? (If so, how do you know?) Shall I report it? Thanks, Antonio P.S.: Details lock order reversal: 1st 0xc86d88d8 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:3572 2nd 0xe0778a00 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:260 3rd 0xc86d86b8 ufs (ufs) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2134 KDB: stack backtrace: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0eff6ac,632e7262,3331323a,6f000a34,632e7370,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 kdb_backtrace(c0a42bdb,c0f03028,c6d65370,c6d69338,ef34190c,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x2a _witness_debugger(c0f03028,c86d86b8,c0ef2288,c6d69338,c0f0ad74,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 witness_checkorder(c86d86b8,9,c0f0ad74,856,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 __lockmgr_args(c86d86b8,80100,c86d86d8,0,0,...) at __lockmgr_args+0x824 ffs_lock(ef341a34,c0a53e1b,c0f0a05e,80100,c86d8660,...) at ffs_lock+0x8a VOP_LOCK1_APV(c10493e0,ef341a34,c794d670,c1059a80,c86d8660,...) at VOP_LOCK1_APV+0xb5 _vn_lock(c86d8660,80100,c0f0ad74,856,4,...) at _vn_lock+0x5e vget(c86d8660,80100,c794d5c0,50,0,...) at vget+0xb9 vfs_hash_get(c7447ca8,7af825,80000,c794d5c0,ef341b78,...) at vfs_hash_get+0xe6 ffs_vgetf(c7447ca8,7af825,80000,ef341b78,1,...) at ffs_vgetf+0x49 softdep_sync_buf(c86d8880,e07789a0,1,106,0,...) at softdep_sync_buf+0xac9 ffs_syncvnode(c86d8880,1,c794d5c0,c86a03b8,c86d892c,...) at ffs_syncvnode+0x24c ffs_fsync(ef341c48,ef341cec,0,ef341c48,ef341c6c,...) at ffs_fsync+0x27 VOP_FSYNC_APV(c10493e0,ef341c48,c0f0c048,df9,0,...) at VOP_FSYNC_APV+0xa5 sys_fsync(c794d5c0,ef341cec,c0f493b6,c0eebb0e,286,...) at sys_fsync+0x1df syscall(ef341d28) at syscall+0x284 Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x21 --- syscall (95, FreeBSD ELF32, sys_fsync), eip = 0x2859a1c7, esp = 0xbfbfe1bc, ebp = 0xbfbfe1d8 --- pid 2085 (perl5.12.4), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) pid 2083 (perl5.12.4), uid 0: exited on signal 6 (core dumped) lock order reversal: 1st 0xe07a0e24 bufwait (bufwait) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2658 2nd 0xc86b5200 dirhash (dirhash) @ /usr/src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_dirhash.c:284 KDB: stack backtrace: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0eff6ac,7366752f,7366752f,7269645f,68736168,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 kdb_backtrace(c0a42bdb,c0f0300f,c6d65370,c6d69408,f15327e8,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x2a _witness_debugger(c0f0300f,c86b5200,c0f31d92,c6d69408,c0f31a17,...) at _witness_debugger+0x25 witness_checkorder(c86b5200,9,c0f31a17,11c,0,...) at witness_checkorder+0x839 _sx_xlock(c86b5200,0,c0f31a17,11c,c8893828,...) at _sx_xlock+0x85 ufsdirhash_acquire(e07a0dc4,c8893828,f1532918,e5263e74,f15328b8,...) at ufsdirhash_acquire+0x35 ufsdirhash_add(c8893828,f1532918,3e74,f15328a4,f15328a8,...) at ufsdirhash_add+0x13 ufs_direnter(c889caa0,c89a5660,f1532918,f1532bc0,0,...) at ufs_direnter+0x739 ufs_makeinode(f1532bc0,0,f1532b04,f1532a60,c0d5fc85,...) at ufs_makeinode+0x59d ufs_create(f1532b04,f1532b1c,0,0,f1532b80,...) at ufs_create+0x30 VOP_CREATE_APV(c10493e0,f1532b04,f1532bc0,f1532a9c,0,...) at VOP_CREATE_APV+0xa5 vn_open_cred(f1532b80,f1532c48,1a4,0,c74ce280,...) at vn_open_cred+0x215 vn_open(f1532b80,f1532c48,1a4,c86a3508,2835a000,...) at vn_open+0x3b kern_openat(c7ac6b80,ffffff9c,289ffa60,0,a03,...) at kern_openat+0x1ec kern_open(c7ac6b80,289ffa60,0,a02,1b4,...) at kern_open+0x35 sys_open(c7ac6b80,f1532cec,c,f1532d80,282,...) at sys_open+0x30 syscall(f1532d28) at syscall+0x284 Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x21 --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF32, sys_open), eip = 0x282b1343, esp = 0xbf9f100c, ebp = 0xbf9f1038 --- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 17:24:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0C4106566B for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3E08FC16 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p9EHOWoi035025 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:24:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <4E98707F.3070202@tundraware.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:25:19 -0500 From: Tim Daneliuk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E9866CF.6010209@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <4E9866CF.6010209@gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (ozzie.tundraware.com [75.145.138.73]); Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:24:32 -0500 (CDT) X-TundraWare-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-TundraWare-MailScanner-ID: p9EHOWoi035025 X-TundraWare-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-TundraWare-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Very large swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:24:39 -0000 On 10/14/2011 11:43 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > On 10/14/2011 8:08 AM, Dennis Glatting wrote: >> >> This is kind of stupid question but at a minimum I thought it would be >> interesting to know. >> >> What is the limitations in terms of swap devices under RELENG_8 (or 9)? >> >> A single swap dev appears to be limited to 32GB (there are truncation >> messages on boot). I am looking at a possible need of 2-20TB (probably >> more) with as much main memory that is affordable. > > The limit is raised to 256GB in HEAD and RELENG_8 > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=225076 > >> I am working with large data sets and there are various ways of solving >> the problem sets but simply letting the processors swap as they work >> through a given problem is a possible technique. > > I would advise against this technique. Possibly, it's easier to design > your program to user smaller amounts of memory and avoid swapping. > > After all, designing your program to use big amounts of swapped out > memory *and* perform in a timely manner, can be very challenging. > > Nikos Well ... I dunno how much large dataset processing you've done, but it's not that simple. Ordinarily, with modern machines and architectures, you're right. In fact, you NEVER want to swap, instead, throw memory at the problem. But when you get into really big datasets, it's a different story. You probably will not find a mobo with 20TB memory capacity :) So ... you have to do something with disk. You generally get two choices: Memory mapped files or swap. It's been some years since I considered either seriously, but they do have some tradeoffs. MM files give the programmer very fine grained control of just what might get pushed out to disk at the cost of user space context switching. Swap gets managed by the kernel which is about as efficient as disk I/O is going to get, but that means what and how things get moved on- and off disk is invisible to the application. What a lot of big data shops are moving to is SSD for such operations. SSD is VERY fast and can be RAIDed to overcome the tendency of at least the early SSD products' tendency to, um ... blow up. As always, scale is hard, and giant data problems are Really Hard (tm). That's why people like IBM, Sun/Oracle, and Teradata make lots of money building giant iron farms. 'Just my 2^1 cents worth ... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 17:53:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE7C106564A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) Received: from hercules.mthelicon.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:49f0:2023::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4260D8FC0A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from feathers.peganest.com ([31.76.88.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by hercules.mthelicon.com (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p9EHrKhk009534 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:53:21 GMT (envelope-from ken@mthelicon.com) From: Pegasus Mc Cleaft Organization: Feathers To: FreeBSD questions Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:48:14 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (FreeBSD/10.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.6.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20111013203815.GA77278@slackbox.erewhon.net> <011A9DDF-464D-49A7-B0F9-96AF6360ED62@olivent.com> <20111013234643.GQ14162@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <20111013234643.GQ14162@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201110141848.14057.ken@mthelicon.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=15.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP, RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on hercules.mthelicon.com Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:53:46 -0000 On Friday 14 October 2011 00:46:43 Chip Camden wrote: > > > Alternatively, an tribute on the FreeBSD website would be fitting, > > > wouldn't it? > > > > > > Roland > > > > I think this would be a fitting tribute... > > Hear, hear! A good friend of mine posted to me, I think, one of the best tributes: printf("goodbye, dad.\n"); From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 18:04:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFD11065672 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EA98FC15 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.50]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2DFA718D9 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 17535 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2011 18:04:07 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 30418, pid: 16403, t: 0.1299s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Oct 2011 18:04:07 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7A2CB2E0DA; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:04:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Antonio Vieiro References: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:04:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Antonio Vieiro's message of "Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:38:22 +0200") Message-ID: <44vcrr78mh.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lock order reversal @ FreeBSD 9.0B3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:04:09 -0000 That looks like LOR #261, known not be a problem. 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A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:08:53 -0000 On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:17:15 +0200 "Kruppa, Peter Ulrich" wrote: > > > On 13.10.2011 23:43, mikel king wrote: > > > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > > > >> With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants on whose > >> shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, I think it would > >> be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements. > >> > >> His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are a > >> legacy that few can match. > >> > >> Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate the > >> upcoming 9.0 release in his memory. > I believe this would be an appropriate gesture. > > Regards > > Peter. > -- > > Peter Ulrich Kruppa > Wuppertal > Germany > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I am strongly in favour of such a gesture, as an exceptional case. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 22:11:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78EB1106566C for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541888FC13 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7836CE80878; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:11:09 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: mikel king Message-ID: <20111014221109.GB30588@thought.org> References: <20111013203815.GA77278@slackbox.erewhon.net> <011A9DDF-464D-49A7-B0F9-96AF6360ED62@olivent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <011A9DDF-464D-49A7-B0F9-96AF6360ED62@olivent.com> Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. Of_Interest: With 25 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Roland Smith , FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:11:10 -0000 On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 05:43:25PM -0400, mikel king wrote: > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:43:25 -0400 > From: mikel king > Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion > To: Roland Smith > Cc: FreeBSD questions > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) > > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > > > With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants on whose > > shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, I think it would > > be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements. both dennis's and ken's ... and for that matter the entire bunch from murry hill. somewhere in my jumble of books in my True Bible, 'the c programming language' that i had dennis autograph 20+ years ago. in my NSHO, that book is the best book every written. it's just one of dennis's achievements[!] > > > > His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are a > > legacy that few can match. > > > > Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate the > > upcoming 9.0 release in his memory. > > > > Alternatively, an tribute on the FreeBSD website would be fitting, wouldn't it? > > > > Roland > > -- > > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) > > > I think this would be a fitting tribute... hm. given that ken finished up at berkeley in '69 and '70, isn't it overdue to have at least a page that mentions the BSD link to its origin and inspiration? {sigh} gary > > > Regards, > Mikel King > mikel.king@olivent.com > o: 631.627.3055 | c: 646.530.3320 | skype: mikel.king | http://bit.ly/mk-resume > http://bit.ly/mk-twttr | http://linkd.in/mk-in | http://on.fb.me/mk-fb | http://bit.ly/mk-contact > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 22:43:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8EB106564A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AE98FC0A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.intranet.com.mx (189.144.47.109) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9) for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:44:17 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:43:00 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jorge Biquez In-Reply-To: <87lispk0ke.fsf@oak.localnet> References: <3401304023-313529491@intranet.com.mx> <87lispk0ke.fsf@oak.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3401477057-313530511@intranet.com.mx> Subject: Re: Freebsd, Virtual OSs and GUI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:43:10 -0000 Hello all. Thanks for you comments and advice. Jorge Biquez At 10:55 p.m. 12/10/2011, Carl Johnson wrote: >Adam Vande More writes: > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jorge Biquez > wrote: > > > > It is better to install KDE or GNOME as the base GUI or it is > better to have > >> any other ? (I do not know what could be). > >> > > > > This is one of those ask a hundred different people get 100 different > > answers. I prefer KDE which would work well for you because both KDE and > > VirtualBox are built on QT4, a rather large system. KDE isn't really that > > heavy though relatively speaking. VirtualBox runs great for me > and does all > > you indicated. > > > > > >> > >> What do you think is the best option to save hardware resources and > >> accomplish this task ? Something important is that this lab > machine will be > >> connected directly with the ISP (public IP's) and I will need to connect > >> remotely to control the server and the other OS's. > >> > > > > You will probably want a CPU and chipset that has hardware assist for > > virtualization, and plenty of RAM for both host and guests. Disk choice > > should reflect your data capacity, redundancy, and speed needs. A good > > quality Intel NIC is always nice. > >If the OP is going to run a 64-bit OS, then hardware vitualization >assist is *required* for VirtualBox to handle it. It is not required >when VirtualBox is running a 32-bit OS. Just another minor detail to >consider. > >-- >Carl Johnson carlj@peak.org > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 22:47:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6171065672 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wormintrude@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795438FC14 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkbzu17 with SMTP id zu17so284029bkb.13 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:46:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=yTjT8M5SL5g78326l+ragY7W5/wP3jJ2ihdmgag2Vrg=; b=ZuP3JIHdwWEzqdzG0AyBygJI3pv+Qij1PEjfwa/qp+ObmloUwCuHGB30kI8lIxwjt4 tTA7ND6oeXGRlfVg1c9q+4UpGfbdUlvRCgj8CgUabYXAodHBABIWZy3/sT2Xyx5arDGx IlgvsGNO/lDvP1CpTY7cPuIBBM3DiHg/4MXUY= Received: by 10.223.76.11 with SMTP id a11mr6467303fak.1.1318630611314; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:16:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.19.2 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:16:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111014221109.GB30588@thought.org> References: <20111013203815.GA77278@slackbox.erewhon.net> <011A9DDF-464D-49A7-B0F9-96AF6360ED62@olivent.com> <20111014221109.GB30588@thought.org> From: Mariano Vecchioli Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:16:31 -0300 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:47:01 -0000 +1 to Codename Ritchie. Mariano Vecchioli wormintrude@gmail.com On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 05:43:25PM -0400, mikel king wrote: > > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:43:25 -0400 > > From: mikel king > > Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion > > To: Roland Smith > > Cc: FreeBSD questions > > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) > > > > > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > > > > > With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants > on whose > > > shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, I think > it would > > > be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements. > > > both dennis's and ken's ... and for that matter the entire > bunch from murry hill. somewhere in my jumble of books in > my True Bible, 'the c programming language' that i had > dennis autograph 20+ years ago. in my NSHO, that book is > the best book every written. it's just one of dennis's > achievements[!] > > > > > > > > His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are a > > > legacy that few can match. > > > > > > Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate the > > > upcoming 9.0 release in his memory. > > > > > > Alternatively, an tribute on the FreeBSD website would be fitting, > wouldn't it? > > > > > > Roland > > > -- > > > R.F.Smith > http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > > > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much > appreciated] > > > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: > C321A725) > > > > > > I think this would be a fitting tribute... > > > hm. given that ken finished up at berkeley in '69 and > '70, isn't it overdue to have at least a page that mentions > the BSD link to its origin and inspiration? > > > {sigh} > > gary > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Mikel King > > mikel.king@olivent.com > > o: 631.627.3055 | c: 646.530.3320 | skype: mikel.king | > http://bit.ly/mk-resume > > http://bit.ly/mk-twttr | http://linkd.in/mk-in | http://on.fb.me/mk-fb | > http://bit.ly/mk-contact > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > Unix > Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org > The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 14 23:18:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0DD106564A for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Received: from Elmer.dco.penx.com (elmer.dco.penx.com [174.46.214.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC458FC0C for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:18:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Elmer.dco.penx.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9ENIV89031448 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:18:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:18:31 -0600 (MDT) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@Elmer.dco.penx.com To: Tim Daneliuk In-Reply-To: <4E98707F.3070202@tundraware.com> Message-ID: References: <4E9866CF.6010209@gmx.com> <4E98707F.3070202@tundraware.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very large swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 23:18:35 -0000 On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 10/14/2011 11:43 AM, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: >> On 10/14/2011 8:08 AM, Dennis Glatting wrote: >>> >>> This is kind of stupid question but at a minimum I thought it would be >>> interesting to know. >>> >>> What is the limitations in terms of swap devices under RELENG_8 (or 9)? >>> >>> A single swap dev appears to be limited to 32GB (there are truncation >>> messages on boot). I am looking at a possible need of 2-20TB (probably >>> more) with as much main memory that is affordable. >> >> The limit is raised to 256GB in HEAD and RELENG_8 >> http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=225076 >> >>> I am working with large data sets and there are various ways of solving >>> the problem sets but simply letting the processors swap as they work >>> through a given problem is a possible technique. >> >> I would advise against this technique. Possibly, it's easier to design >> your program to user smaller amounts of memory and avoid swapping. >> >> After all, designing your program to use big amounts of swapped out >> memory *and* perform in a timely manner, can be very challenging. >> >> Nikos > > Well ... I dunno how much large dataset processing you've done, but > it's not that simple. Ordinarily, with modern machines and > architectures, you're right. In fact, you NEVER want to swap, > instead, throw memory at the problem. > > But when you get into really big datasets, it's a different story. > You probably will not find a mobo with 20TB memory capacity :) > So ... you have to do something with disk. You generally get > two choices: Memory mapped files or swap. It's been some years > since I considered either seriously, but they do have some tradeoffs. > MM files give the programmer very fine grained control of just what > might get pushed out to disk at the cost of user space context > switching. Swap gets managed by the kernel which is about as > efficient as disk I/O is going to get, but that means what and how > things get moved on- and off disk is invisible to the application. > > What a lot of big data shops are moving to is SSD for such operations. > SSD is VERY fast and can be RAIDed to overcome the tendency of at least > the early SSD products' tendency to, um ... blow up. > > As always, scale is hard, and giant data problems are Really Hard (tm). > That's why people like IBM, Sun/Oracle, and Teradata make lots of money > building giant iron farms. > This is a proof-of-concept project that is personally educational with a substantial amusement factor. I am doing it on the cheap, which means commercial products. I'm also doing it at home, which means expenses come out of my pocket. This project is about manipulating and creating large data sets for crypto related applications (use your imagination here). The manipulations are fairly stupid and generally I am using UNIX utilities because I don't want to re-invent existing code (I'm not that bored). I have also written some programs but they are no more than a few pages of code. I am also using MPI, OpenMP, and pthreads where supported and make sense. I have committed to the project five machines. Three (the 'attack' machines) run over clocked Phenom II x6 processors with 16GB of RAM, 1TB disk for the OS, 1TB disk for Junk, and a 3-2TB disk RAIDz array. Two of the three MBs (ASUS CROSSHAIR V FORMULA, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7, and something I had lying around) are upgradable to 8150s, which I have one on order. These machines are liquid cooled because, well, for no reason in particular other than I thought it would be fun (defiantly educational). Roughly fifty percent of the parts were lying around but more importantly my wife and I keep our finances separate. :) A data manipulation server is running an i7 x4 (not over clocked but turbo is enabled) with 24GB of fast RAM. It has 12 2TB disks, 2 1TB disks (OS), plus a few SSDs configured across three volumes (OS, Junk, and a work volume). A repository server is an i7 x6 3.3GHz (not over clocked) with 24GB of RAM, several volumes, two of which are RAIDz, SSDs, and other junk. I NFS the data to the attack servers from this server. I am using an Intel Gb card, picked because it supports large MTUs. All are running RELENG_8. If this project moves beyond proof-of-concept, and therefore not my money, we're talking about 100-1,000 TB of data with real servers (SMART, iLO, a NMS, etc). I have my doubts this will happen but in the mean time it's play day. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 01:19:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A71106564A for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9555A8FC08 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so901232wwi.31 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:19:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.72.65 with SMTP id s43mr3637671wed.40.1318641570356; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.27.211 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:19:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3401477057-313530511@intranet.com.mx> References: <3401304023-313529491@intranet.com.mx> <87lispk0ke.fsf@oak.localnet> <3401477057-313530511@intranet.com.mx> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:19:30 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Brennan To: Jorge Biquez Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Freebsd, Virtual OSs and GUI X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:19:32 -0000 On Friday, October 14, 2011, Jorge Biquez wrote: > Hello all. > > Thanks for you comments and advice. > > Jorge Biquez > > At 10:55 p.m. 12/10/2011, Carl Johnson wrote: > > Adam Vande More writes: > >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jorge Biquez w= rote: >> >> It is better to install KDE or GNOME as the base GUI or it is better to = have >>> any other ? (I do not know what could be). >>> >> >> This is one of those ask a hundred different people get 100 different >> answers. =C2=A0I prefer KDE which would work well for you because both K= DE and >> VirtualBox are built on QT4, a rather large system. =C2=A0KDE isn't real= ly that >> heavy though relatively speaking. =C2=A0VirtualBox runs great for me and= does all >> you indicated. >> >> >>> >>> What do you think is the best option to save hardware resources and >>> accomplish this task ? Something important is that this lab machine wil= l be >>> connected directly with the ISP (public IP's) =C2=A0and I will need to = connect >>> remotely to control the server and the other OS's. >>> >> >> You will probably want a CPU and chipset that has hardware assist for >> virtualization, and plenty of RAM for both host and guests. =C2=A0Disk c= hoice >> should reflect your data capacity, redundancy, and speed needs. =C2=A0A = good >> quality Intel NIC is always nice. > > If the OP is going to run a 64-bit OS, then hardware vitualization > assist is *required* for VirtualBox to handle it. =C2=A0It is not require= d > when VirtualBox is running a 32-bit OS. =C2=A0Just another minor detail t= o > consider. > > -- > Carl Johnson =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0carlj@peak.org > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=C2=A0mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=C2=A0mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > Just as a sidenote, you don't need to install something as large as kde or Gnome where flu box/openbox/blackbox or KFCE will suffice. Why overburden yourself with extra's that could potentially ruin any testing? Especially if all of the os's you mention will be running at once. You could also look at qemu, it isn't the easiest to use at times, but it can be used entirely from the cmdln. I've used it before to run gentoo from a FreeBSD host, and it did so very nicely. --=20 > -- > Chris Brennan > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? > http://xkcd.com/84/ | http://xkcd.com/149/ | http://xkcd.com/549/ > GPG: D5B20C0C (6741 8EE4 6C7D 11FB 8DA8 9E4A EECD 9A84 D5B2 0C0C) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 03:03:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730711065673 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 03:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.62.230.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F278FC14 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 03:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WildRover.lariat.net (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2] (may be forged)) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04809 for ; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:03:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <201110150303.VAA04809@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:03:29 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Approximate date of RC1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 03:03:38 -0000 Just wondering if a date has been set for posting of FreeBSD 9.0-RC1. I have some servers to build that will need fixes made after BETA3.... --Brett Glass From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 07:51:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CF1106566B for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 07:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105638FC18 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 07:51:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p9F7pFO6063649 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:51:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p9F7pFYh063648; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fbsd81 ([192.168.200.81]) by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA03489; Sat, 15 Oct 11 00:42:59 PDT Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 07:41:52 -0700 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@penx.com Message-Id: <4e999bb0.Vauj8jk4WeCO/kEJ%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4E9866CF.6010209@gmx.com> <4E98707F.3070202@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tundra@tundraware.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Very large swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 07:51:19 -0000 Dennis Glatting wrote: > This is a proof-of-concept project ... > I am doing it on the cheap ... > > I have committed to the project five machines. Three run over > clocked Phenom II x6 processors with 16GB of RAM, 1TB disk for > the OS, 1TB disk for Junk, and a 3-2TB disk RAIDz array ... > These machines are liquid cooled ... > > A data manipulation server is running an i7 x4 with 24GB of fast > RAM. It has 12 2TB disks, 2 1TB disks (OS), plus a few SSDs ... > > A repository server is an i7 x6 3.3GHz with 24GB of RAM, several > volumes, two of which are RAIDz, SSDs, and other junk ... If that's "on the cheap", I shudder to think what would be considered "expensive". I've seen a whole server room with less horsepower and disk than that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 09:24:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001C71065673 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6727@bellsouth.net) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [207.115.11.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C2F8FC08 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:24:04 +0000 (GMT) X-Comment: Sending client does not conform to RFC822 minimum requirements X-Comment: Date has been added by Maillennium Received: from localhost (adsl-68-210-187-7.sdf.bellsouth.net[68.210.187.7]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with SMTP id <20111015092403H05001njqte>; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:24:04 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.210.187.7] From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20111015092405.001C71065673@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:24:05 -0000 FreeBSD needs to acknowledge its history, and C has been and still is a critical part. Dennis Ritchie's role deserves to be acknowledged. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 11:40:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035BB106566C; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:40:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B648B8FC08; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1RF2bd-0004eo-Q6>; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:40:45 +0200 Received: from e178015218.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.15.218] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1RF2bd-0007eD-N0>; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:40:45 +0200 Message-ID: <4E99713D.9000707@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:40:45 +0200 From: "Hartmann, O." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111013 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.15.218 Cc: Subject: portsnap fails: look: tINDEX.new: File too large X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:40:50 -0000 Since today's morning I receive on every box this message shown below while doing a 'portsnap fetch'. What's wrong and how to repair? Regards, Oliver Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching snapshot tag from portsnap1.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching snapshot metadata... done. look: tINDEX.new: File too large Portsnap metadata appears bogus. Cowardly refusing to proceed any further. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 13:55:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D2B106564A for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA488FC0A for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so2248467vws.13 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:55:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.35.44 with SMTP id e12mr12732957vdj.108.1318686910946; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.182.129 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 06:55:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [93.221.176.190] In-Reply-To: <011A9DDF-464D-49A7-B0F9-96AF6360ED62@olivent.com> References: <20111013203815.GA77278@slackbox.erewhon.net> <011A9DDF-464D-49A7-B0F9-96AF6360ED62@olivent.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:55:10 +0200 Message-ID: From: "C. P. Ghost" To: mikel king Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Roland Smith , FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie has died. A suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:55:12 -0000 On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:43 PM, mikel king wrote: > > On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > >> With the recent death of Dennis Ritchie, we've lost one of the giants on whose >> shoulders we are standing. But rather that mourn his passing, I think it would >> be proper to remember and celebrate his achievements. >> >> His contributions to the C language and the UNIX operating system are a >> legacy that few can match. >> >> Therefore I would like to propose that the FreeBSD project dedicate the >> upcoming 9.0 release in his memory. >> >> Alternatively, an tribute on the FreeBSD website would be fitting, wouldn't it? +1 for a dmr release. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 14:42:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A2B106566B for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:42:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nec556@retena.com) Received: from resmaa13.ono.com (smtp13.ono.com [62.42.230.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAC18FC15 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:42:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from GogPortatil.retena.com (95.20.141.164) by resmaa13.ono.com (8.5.113) (authenticated as nec556@retena.com) id 4E5EF2B000C155EA; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:42:26 +0200 Message-ID: <4E5EF2B000C155EA@> (added by postmaster@resmaa13.ono.com) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:41:43 +0200 To: Dennis Glatting ,freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Eduardo Morras In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 10.0.1411 [1522/3953] Cc: Subject: Re: Very large swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:42:31 -0000 At 07:08 14/10/2011, Dennis Glatting wrote: >This is kind of stupid question but at a minimum I thought it would >be interesting to know. > >What is the limitations in terms of swap devices under RELENG_8 (or 9)? > >A single swap dev appears to be limited to 32GB (there are >truncation messages on boot). I am looking at a possible need of >2-20TB (probably more) with as much main memory that is affordable. I used 40 GB swap in 8.2. I wanted to test if caching files/data on memory swap were faster than an ordinary, always the same, standard approach of read/write from/to disk when need. It was faster, not a lot faster but mesurable. Of course when app exits files/data is lost. >I am working with large data sets and there are various ways of >solving the problem sets but simply letting the processors swap as >they work through a given problem is a possible technique. > >Processors, memory, storage, and other hardware are open issues but >for the minute I'm doing things on the cheap, which, admittedly, has >a certain intellectual amusement factor. > >TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 15:14:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1022E1065672 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:14:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net [207.145.128.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3598FC17 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.41]) by asbnvacz-mailrelay01.megapath.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DBDA71C21 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18636 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2011 15:14:51 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 4412, pid: 4305, t: 0.1844s scanners: clamav: 0.88.2/m:52/d:10739 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Oct 2011 15:14:51 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.8]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC202E0D9; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 155A43983C; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:14:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Lowell Gilbert To: Peter Kryszkiewicz References: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:14:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Peter Kryszkiewicz's message of "Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:39:29 -0700") Message-ID: <44hb3athgb.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/distfiles via NFS or SSH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:14:58 -0000 Peter Kryszkiewicz writes: > I have several machines networked using NFS mounts or SSH and scp. Only one > machine has internet connectivity - a laptop (machine vbear) with a wireless > card (I'm in a temporary location for a few weeks and only wireless is > available here). > > I tried to mount the ports tree on this machine to the other machines > (machine mfc for instance) with: > > #mfc> cd /usr > #mfc> mount_nfs vbear:/usr/ports ports > > and then installing the needed port on mfc. What happens is that the working > directories and the entire local ports tree gets written to /var, so that I > get /var/ports/usr/ports/devel/xxgdb/work.... and so on. /var fills up very > quickly and I soon get "disk full" errors. > > How can I avoid this? That doesn't happen by default, so you've already changed something, and resetting it to default may be all you need to do. By default, the work directories would be under (e.g.) /usr/ports/devel/xxgdb/work. You have probably set the WRKDIRPREFIX variable somewhere (possibly in make.conf?) and clearing it -- or setting it to somewhere local on the machine, but with more space, which would be faster -- will solve the problem. There are other variables that could cause similar symptoms, but WRKDIRPREFIX is the one I'd bet on at this point if I were you. > I believe the solution is to point the ports Makefile to a different (local) > working directory but point fetch to grab distfiles from the (remote) > laptop, but I'm not sure how to do this. Nothing in what you posted indicates that the distfiles are a problem for you, but if it is, you probably need to look at the DISTDIR variable, and figure out if you are grabbing distfiles to multiple places. Given that only one machine is capable of downloading distfiles in the first place, I think it's unlikely you have trouble in this area. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 17:27:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73DB106564A for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:27:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCE488FC0C for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:27:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9FHRwZk096077 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:27:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4E99C29D.7010005@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:27:57 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110909 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Do you find chrome on FreeBSD buggy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:27:59 -0000 I keep seeing some artefacts, like text selection isn't cleared by clicking anywhere else. Or when some strange (Unicode) symbol shows up, for example on wikipedia article history. Or some page would randomly blank out. Or some page would show message like "Aw, snap" meaning some kind of failure. I did rebuild all dependencies, also updated system several times, but such artefacts seem to persist. Contacting port maintainer didn't help either as he couldn't reproduce some of them. So is it just my system, or others also see such things? Is chrome considered to be stable on FreeBSD? FF, on the contrary, doesn't show anything like that at all. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 17:38:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24109106564A for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46DE8FC0A for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iaky10 with SMTP id y10so5136875iak.13 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:38:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=IjGPiA+1sdAz0nHzGlgx70zh3OkR0f0rvi9k9964i34=; b=jHrJewQS/XjMIZlGDU/DENrJHkXoXqECLJzVWcPZxQ6utHy0YVAPyJupCc9nd1fVcW 39lF8c12dL2tCoTKJwgWm8qZMANcP004uz1C/c9gHOnYm03Obf/x11onduy6C7Ro7RxL 28fTcK+kmTiDjwkWMGSlhNdpfu1camG3AYSq8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.5.23 with SMTP id 23mr6050762ibt.46.1318700315562; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.199.15 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:38:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:38:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: boost issue freebsd 8.2 (32 bit) - infinite loop of boost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:38:38 -0000 Hi, I identified the problem - the build script insists on fetching boost from heanet.dl.sourceforge.net -- for some reason this hangs indefinitely from my connection. ie, wget http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/boost/boost/1.45.0/boost_1_45_0.tar.bz2resolves and connects but never transfers any data. (from my IP however if i try it from another network it works..). Manually fetching from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/boost/boost/1.45.0/boost_1_45_0.tar.bz2 and putting in /usr/ports/distfiles solves the problem... I'm not sure why heanet host doesn't like my IP (or something else?) Anyway, I noticed I made some typos in my previous email, "34" should have been "45". (boost_1_45_0 not boost_1_34_0). late night. lol. Waitman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 17:53:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACB91065673 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andre@drenet.info) Received: from arpnet.drenet.info (arpnet.drenet.info [174.136.104.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508F08FC0C for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:53:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [10.0.0.5]) by arpnet.drenet.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786B1F2D24 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:36:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from arpnet.drenet.info ([10.0.0.5]) by localhost (arpnet.drenet.info [10.0.0.5]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90518-01 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:36:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (c-98-199-43-234.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [98.199.43.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: andre@drenet.info) by arpnet.drenet.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 17AF0F2D16 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:36:08 -0500 (CDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4E99C29D.7010005@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:36:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Andre Goree" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4E99C29D.7010005@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.51 (FreeBSD) Subject: Re: Do you find chrome on FreeBSD buggy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:53:06 -0000 On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:27:57 -0500, Yuri wrote: > I keep seeing some artefacts, like text selection isn't cleared by > clicking anywhere else. Or when some strange (Unicode) symbol shows up, > for example on wikipedia article history. Or some page would randomly > blank out. Or some page would show message like "Aw, snap" meaning some > kind of failure. > > I did rebuild all dependencies, also updated system several times, but > such artefacts seem to persist. Contacting port maintainer didn't help > either as he couldn't reproduce some of them. > > So is it just my system, or others also see such things? Is chrome > considered to be stable on FreeBSD? > FF, on the contrary, doesn't show anything like that at all. > > Yuri > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You know, I've noticed the same issues as well. They seem to have popped up after upgrading to 14.0.835.163_1, if I remember correctly. I mostly see the issue with artifacts and whatnot on sites with heavy AJAX. The issue with the blank page (i.e., the site appears to have loaded but all that can be seen is a blank white page -- if I move the mouse around, it still hovers over links so it would seem the page actually loaded but just is not rendering properly). Rather than post on the forums (or this list) about it, I just started using Opera. Figured it might be something to do with my install (I run 8.2-STABLE on a PC-BSD installation). I tried rebuilding the port, downloading the pre-built package, etc...not sure what could be causing it. Just wanted to chime in with "me too", heh. -- Andre Goree andre@drenet.info From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 18:47:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2184E1065680 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0262d9ad82=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09B68FC0C for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:47:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 58181 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2011 18:20:56 -0000 Received: from leila.iecc.com (64.57.183.34) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 15 Oct 2011 18:20:56 -0000 Date: 15 Oct 2011 18:20:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20111015182034.9924.qmail@joyce.lan> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4E99C29D.7010005@rawbw.com> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Cc: yuri@rawbw.com Subject: Re: Do you find chrome on FreeBSD buggy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:47:38 -0000 I've had the same problem with recent versions on amd64 8.2. The versions at http://chromium.hybridsource.org/ work much better. They cost a little money but it's worth it. R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 15 18:48:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6937F1065672 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unix.hacker@comcast.net) Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1896B8FC08 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:48:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.90]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l6Ht1h0031wpRvQ586o9hD; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:48:09 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([68.43.224.227]) by omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l6o81h0244uzdYs3e6o94E; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:48:09 +0000 Message-ID: <4E99D569.2010507@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:48:09 -0400 From: Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Enlightenment tips and tricks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:48:10 -0000 On 9/19/2011 2:57 PM, Open Slate wrote: > After using Gnome for awhile I am giving Enlightenment a try. Loved it many > years ago but it consumed a lot of resources, the current version does not > appear to have that limitation. I use Enlightenment and Love it. I'm not one of those people who ever really managed to pick a manager, so I use whatever I feel like that day. I haven't really ever noticed E taking up resources though, and I had a 433 MHz Celeron with 192 MBs of RAM with Slackware and FreeBSD on it, and E ran fan even with the Special FX stuff on. > What other ports do Enlightenment fans recommend to extend its > functionality? I have the gimp, Abi Word, Lyx, and Bluefish. I do like > Gnumenric, but doesn't that pull in a lot of Gnome? (i already have Gnome > but want to do over without it.) I am not a heavy spreadsheet power-user, > maybe I should stick with Google Docs, which I do use? Personally, I like Opera, and it works on any of them. I also use AbiWord, and more. As far as I know, you can use anything, there's not to much that requires you have a bunch of Desktops or something installed. For Spread Sheets, I don't use them really because I can't stand them, but last I looked, there's like 10 or more you can use on FreeBSD, and you have everything from GUI ones to TUI ones. > Favorite mail clients? I used to use sylpheed, does it play well with > Enlightenment? I use it, and I use Kmail, which does need some KDE stuff, but I like it, and have all of it installed anyway most of the time, but you can also use Seamonkey as well which doesn't need everything Kmail does to run. If you have a good ISP who lets you connect to the server with Fetchmail, and use your own to send mail, use Mutt, it's the best mail client on the planet. > Favorite web browser, again looking for integration, the way Epiphany fits > in with Gnome. E doesn't have a Web Browser, but, again, Epiphany, Galeon, Seamonkey, Opera, you have choices. > System administration tools? sysinstall ;) > Notebook computer stuff, especially power management, at least as much as > Gnome has. Monitoring tools, at least. > > A replacement for gdm that is more like Enlightenment than xdm is, as I > recall. I don't think there's an EDM, but there IS a "wdm" ;) Again that isn't E but Window Maker is great, and, if you have enough Gnome installed, just use GDM. For some reason, there seem to not be that many Display Managers compared to everything else. KDM, GDM, XDM, WDM, might be one more but I'm not looking right now.