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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t63sm32900883yhd.7.2012.08.06.11.37.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 06 Aug 2012 11:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3WrSKK6h3gz2CG4F for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:37:57 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120806143757.7a1a23b7@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120806183717.ed53868f.steve@sohara.org> References: <20120805045800.29444.qmail@joyce.lan> <20510.27576.562781.36878@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120805093320.7b7f0fc4@scorpio> <20120805214321.17a02e43@papi> <20120806081638.1033190a@scorpio> <20120806183717.ed53868f.steve@sohara.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlnFvFuYrb4AruSh540hV6v8gcvvvKxK7sM1lFpUbGKeDO67f4DVsXhnun4aO1pkurA01Of Subject: Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:38:02 -0000 On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 18:37:17 +0100 Steve O'Hara-Smith articulated: > On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 08:16:38 -0400 > Jerry wrote: > > > Yes you can. You are stating a commonly held incorrect belief. You > > can always request a license from the patient holder. No one, well > > no one interested in monetary compensation would patient anything > > unless they were: > > > > ⁽¹⁾ Intended to use the patents in such a way that they would > > directly profit from it > > > > ⁽²⁾ Intended to lease the patent rights or outright sell the patent. > > [3] Want to prevent anyone else from using it to break into their > market. That would be inclusive in my 1st. reason I listed. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. 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