From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Tue Oct 23 23:10:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B371008C7C for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 23:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3BE6754C4 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 23:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2b.google.com with SMTP id k14so101301vsm.10 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:09:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZpJHsI4M/7F1nqGYsIixOnRMHRX8ACltgTe71EUAE2o=; b=gKylTv6E0BrhVUtHLWKvpgUj9eQ9jocS3DPRFfCEjCogeiuCQ/FP6B20b8vQ01bhXh jO11jWdP5J2uVOxBiwY3dyMwaYvmGUmEqKVW42oxrQgOw6ymeTMsxOmwyQOVOxXEcq+N EWY0fSAXbAPiPEyZdvnzYhvZgq4FxP0D1MrQ/Upg2YmDAnWNbKbZGVs+IyPDX7NUfwJG 0Cadmw/GMho2xDW/t7JrVfSk0oYICwrPy46nkyObTguWJd8nKKXDBgKWa+YnEIpylTY9 WgMR8s8qk210KXbN/Re/5AYypMC5DW5zH3R+cUgrNxJvxlGeMif9GqfM0KKcbRzV9XvB vRrQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZpJHsI4M/7F1nqGYsIixOnRMHRX8ACltgTe71EUAE2o=; b=e4V66sJ04AF+UqgHoIfdParsVeLlWQmKsOWOMxgEq+xIJbhhtmue97c5lVwefqdsw+ /R0gFPpQWay9Pk78NpZ/S3YwsFljbWC+k4BEOhlhXpH0UpYq9+NHZ6sos4jsJ3BH3jOy 7ntakvrS5ZeM/w+7MD5wpr0wuJGjyxRYjzUBb7nNmwHcHjdM4PhwsFUhygDJTB+5I9HU l3CevoMh/YcAGZleu4aAkAppWvrYrCaJ1GTczfTw9QpR9SSSEQnHH0pKqrKjEgakHaya 21kKfYI072ALP7PutsULpdaf6t3h+mgcAMCxRF8DL6Q8SoQwLgfj5A5gHxCZp05HlQEg 3iXA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLhuQ31fR+kTgU5+fv0ndnsSQmOuxdVOUOk9KDmU5jZJ1Txaq4t 2cwODROq3u+Zwh2Rd6+Z8VeF+HCH7lm3fmNlJdF/Zg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5dOo8geCkuGvJNx7df3RNHP5t85xsnNR3e97/+2ic+JcQC+0GStw45an2hLhtgy04qrXeQMpSMx/U9pBpfdvpE= X-Received: by 2002:a67:4dc7:: with SMTP id i68mr128662vsg.46.1540336198661; Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:09:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20181023221037.GA14128@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <201810232306.w9NN6mG8024521@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <201810232306.w9NN6mG8024521@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:09:47 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Brooks Davis , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , Ian Lepore , FreeBSD Net , "Julian H. Stacey" , Michelle Sullivan , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 23:10:00 -0000 On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 5:07 PM Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:33:35PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > I'd also suggest that rl stands in stark contrast to the cs, wb, sn, > smc, > > > > sf, tl, tx and vr drivers, which nobody has mentioned in this > thread, and > > > > which I doubt are in use in any FreeBSD system of any age today. > > > > > > vr is used by my TV driver laptop: > > > http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/hardware/laptops/novatech-8355/ > > > vr0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu > 1500 > > > options=82808 > > > ether 00:40:d0:5e:26:38 > > > inet 192.168.91.65 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.91.255 > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX > ) > > > status: active > > > > > > Which currently runs 8.4-RELEASE & eg xrandr, but I'll upgrade soon > > > when I also configure it to receive from a raspberry-pi TV VPN server. > > > > The above was a typo. vr is on the the STAY list. > > > > -- Brooks > Brooks, > Is there a public revised version of FCP-0101 that reflects the > feedback which is what core is voting on? > Its on github, just like it's been the whole time for anybody to see, submit pull requests against and track: https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/blob/master/fcp-0101.md Warner