Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 12:02:10 -0400 From: "Francisco Reyes" <fran@reyes.somos.net> To: "Matt Dillon" <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> Cc: "arch@FreeBSD.ORG" <arch@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven" <jruigrok@via-net-works.nl>, "Kris Kennaway" <kris@citusc.usc.edu>, "Robert Watson" <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Terry Lambert" <tlambert@primenet.com>, "Warner Losh" <imp@village.org> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf Message-ID: <200010121555.LAA44376@sanson.reyes.somos.net> In-Reply-To: <200010101620.e9AGKoo13270@earth.backplane.com>
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:20:50 -0700 (PDT), Matt Dillon wrote: >None of the arguments Jordan or Poul >are making make any sense to me. What they are saying to me is basically >that they aren't willing to require that joe sysop be bothered with >lifting just his little finger to configure a FreeBSD box. >-Matt That is one way to look at it, although not a very effective one. You are basically making assumptions about the level of competency of FreeBSD users. I think at best the intallation program should warn about having everything off or giving an option. You are also ignoring organizations which would be installing things behind a firewall and that may not gotten up to the automation level that you have achieved. For them all internal boxes don't need as much security, yet they would to come up with a custom install like you have. Furthermore, you are also ignoring the transition period between when a company has so few FreeBSD machines that they just install them all from scratch and the point where they have so many that they need to automate. Somewhere along those two extremes there needs to be some relief for the admins. Your suggestion basically is ignore those who don't have a clue. This is elitist and unproductive. francisco Moderator of the Corporate BSD list http://www.egroups.com/group/BSD_Corporate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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