From owner-cvs-all Sun Jan 17 05:26:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16531 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 05:26:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from octopus.originative.co.uk (originat.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA16526; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 05:26:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@originative.co.uk) From: paul@originative.co.uk Received: by OCTOPUS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:25:08 -0000 Message-ID: To: dfr@nlsystems.com, abial@nask.pl Cc: dfr@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: cvs commit: src/sys/sys bus.h src/sys/kern subr_bus.c Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:25:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Rabson [mailto:dfr@nlsystems.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 1999 7:04 PM > To: Andrzej Bialecki > Cc: Doug Rabson; cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG; cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/sys bus.h src/sys/kern subr_bus.c > > > > While you're at it... I think it would be nice if the probe > messages were > > printed in some orderly fashion (e.g. like SCO does it)., > instead of the > > current mess. Someone even said that a person who saw > FreeBSD booting for > > the first time was scared that something broke... :-). But, > seriously, > > how about reformatting the probe messages to something like this: > > > > Driver Unit Bus Irq Drq IOport Maddr Msize Description > > > ------+----+---+---+---+------+-------+-----+----------------- > ----------- > > ed 0 ISA 5 - 0x300 0xd8000 --- NE2000-compat > Ethernet card > > fdc 0 ISA 6 2 0x3f0 --- --- Floppy drive > controller > > > > etc, etc, with more details available on request (i.e. > boot: -v). This > > should give a much better first-time impression... I tried to install Openserver on a spare partition recently to see what it was all about and this was one of the things I liked (I couldn't get it to install so there wasn't much else to see!). > I'm not sure how popular this will be. Driver writers seem to like > printing all kinds of stuff during probe/attach. Perhaps its > better to > just hide the lot behind a nice splash screen :-). I think driver writers should be constrained in what they can print so that boot messages can become more orthogonal across devices. A boot flag (like verbose) can free that restriction but by default the boot messages could be tidied up a lot. Hiding it behind a splash screen is even better :-) As long as there is an option to have the machine boot verbosely so you can see them when you need to. Paul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message