From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Sep 19 20: 3:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from switchblade.cyberpunkz.org (switchblade.cyberpunkz.org [198.174.169.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5479437B417 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rob@localhost) by switchblade.cyberpunkz.org (8.11.6/CpA-TLS1.2) id f8K33BJ72472; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:03:11 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rob) Posted-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:03:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:03:11 -0500 From: Rob Andrews To: Matthew Graybosch Cc: Stanley Hopcroft , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How does FreeBSD make a difference in a government context ? Message-ID: <20010919220311.F54888@switchblade.cyberpunkz.org> References: <20010920101628.B5729@IPAustralia.Gov.AU> <20010919210142.7fcc9d8b.matthew@starbreaker.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TU+u6i6jrDPzmlWF" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010919210142.7fcc9d8b.matthew@starbreaker.net>; from matthew@starbreaker.net on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:01:42PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --TU+u6i6jrDPzmlWF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 09:01:42PM -0400, Matthew Graybosch wrote: > Sorry, I just got word from my boss that he INSISTED that I buy a > copy of Windows XP professional and use it on my home box instead > of FreeBSD. I'm still a little riled. I wonder, how is it that your boss thinks that you should pay for this if *he* is insisting upon it.. I mean isn't it fairly ignorant that you should have to take money out of your own pocket to buy a piece of software you have no use for? Tell him to buy you a PC for home and to make the company pay for the software they wish you to use. Otherwise I'd tell him to frag off.. :) Would make for a wonderful lawsuit.. "Employee fired for not using MS products on his home PC" Ahhh.. I can see it now :) [ -snip- ] =20 > All I can suggest is that you drown them in favorable numbers. As much as I would like to believe that possible, as I pointed out in a private email to the originator of this thread, The problem=20 you get into is simple. "This is the way we've been doing things for years and we're not going to change it over night" Which=20 translates into: "We have been getting screwed for years and we know it but at least we get support and updates for a reduced cost and fact remains we have become too dependant as well ignorant of ways to change and support ourselves" Now if you go from that aspect on, you can imagine what my email in private was concidering it was about 2 to 3 pages of my own insights from the government and larger corperations point of view.. You can bash them with numbers all day, but the fact remains that in the end you have a group of older people in the management sectors that do not understand nor have the reasoning to care as to why or what or how to change. "If its working there is now need to fix it. If its broke we fix what we have until it can no longer supported due to it being outdated and decayed" Cheers..=20 --=20 Rob Andrews Administrator Cyberpunk Alliance http://www.cyberpunkz.org/ Minneapolis, MN --TU+u6i6jrDPzmlWF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7qVxvAXwJ9YLqJJURAvGyAJ4oS/jkkzwzSwSzUWHlDV+UEM+VqgCffty6 JRoytxOZPUeNuko+binBqnM= =7ga1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TU+u6i6jrDPzmlWF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message