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Date:      Mon, 14 May 2001 16:08:17 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>, Eric Melville <eric@FreeBSD.org>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Destroying and remaking device nodes (was: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files options src/sys/alpha/conf GENERIC src/sys/i386/conf GENERIC NEWCARD NOTES src/sys/ia64/conf GENERIC src/sys/pc98/conf GENERIC src/sys/fs/devfs devfs_devs.c devfs_vfsops.c devfs_vnops.c) 
Message-ID:  <20846.989849297@critter>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 May 2001 10:01:07 EDT." <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1010514094858.70573E-100000@fledge.watson.org> 

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In message <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1010514094858.70573E-100000@fledge.watson.org>, Robe
rt Watson writes:
>
>On Mon, 14 May 2001, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>
>> In message <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1010514094148.70573D-100000@fledge.watson.org>, Robe
>> rt Watson writes:
>> 
>> >Personally, I'd like to see rm unmodified: part of the goal here is to
>> >allow /dev to act like a normal file system from the perspective of
>> >management tools (including things like graphical file managers).
>> >Modifying base system tools is going to hurt later.  We should really just
>> >allow rm and rm -W to work as normal.  They use documented APIs as they
>> >exist already.
>> 
>> I have had a number of people ask for "mknod" instead of "rm -W"  and
>> after thinking about it I guess that is the most POLA compliant
>> solution. 
>> 
>> I'll work that one tonight if I can. 
>
>On the other hand, from the perspective of dynamically allocated device
>major numbers for kernel modules, using whiteout *also* makes sense. :-) 
>You can't mknod a device without a priori knowledge of its device numbers. 
>As long as we like that assertion, I'm fine with us using mknod.

I intended to ignore the major and minor arguments in mknod(2), simply
treating it as a request to re-create the named node.

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