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Date:      Sun, 6 Feb 2005 01:44:45 -0800
From:      "Loren M. Lang" <lorenl@alzatex.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Running top without a shell -- more questions
Message-ID:  <20050206094445.GP8619@alzatex.com>
In-Reply-To: <442923970.20050205235400@wanadoo.fr>
References:  <51563600.20050205125343@wanadoo.fr> <20050205130310.GM8619@alzatex.com> <442923970.20050205235400@wanadoo.fr>

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On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 11:54:00PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Loren M. Lang writes:
> 
> LML> Right now I have two login processes running, one for each virtual
> LML> console I am logged in at the moment, though my ssh login shells don't
> LML> have any login processes for them.  My guess is that there staying
> LML> around for some cleanup work to do at logout.  I think it might be
> LML> related to the pam session management modules like changing certain file
> LML> permissions when a shell logs in and out and it just happens that only
> LML> my virtual consoles need to do any cleanup jobs.  If it is pam doing it,
> LML> you might be able change it's configuration, but I don't think it's a
> LML> big deal security wise.
> 
> I don't mind the overhead of the process, as long as it's not something
> "abnormal" or a security risk.  I don't see it for my other logins, but
> then again, they are all ssh logins, which apparently are handled
> differently (does login even get invoked for ssh users?).

Oh, that's right, openssh doesn't even use login.  I think there is an
option to enable openssh to invoke login instead of doing it own thing
but it's not default.  I think it's for security reasons, they have more
control over the login process that way, but that doesn't mean the login
program itself is insecure.

> 
> -- 
> Anthony
> 
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