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Date:      Sat, 11 Dec 1999 12:29:29 -0600
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>
Cc:        Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>, Brad Knowles <blk@skynet.be>, Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!
Message-ID:  <19991211122928.D760@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <19991210160247.DF62D1CA0@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@netplex.com.au on Sat, Dec 11, 1999 at 12:02:47AM %2B0800
References:  <asmodai@wxs.nl> <19991210160247.DF62D1CA0@overcee.netplex.com.au>

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On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at  0:02:47 +0800, Peter Wemm wrote:
> Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
>> -On [19991209 16:03], Greg Lehey (grog@mojave.sitaranetworks.com) wrote:
>>> On Wednesday,  8 December 1999 at 20:23:24 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 	This is -CURRENT.  It pains me to say it, but anyone trying to
>>>> run anything "useful" on -CURRENT gets what they deserve.  This is
>>>> the only place where we can make clean breaks with the past, and as
>>>> painful as that can be, we simply have to do that occasionally.
>>>
>>> Next month it'll be -RELEASE.  This isn't the time to remove such
>>> significant functionality.  If it weren't for that, I'd agree with
>>> you.
>>
>> Think about that some more.
>>
>> After that it will be 4.1.  Nice to give people a driver and then rip it
>> out when 4.1 comes when Soren fixes the last of the things people
>> needed to have into the ata driver.
>>
>> I was already testing the ata driver and even procured some more info
>> for Soren than he already had.  Same goes for a bunch of other people.
>> But the opposite goes for a lot of people.
>>
>> People running CURRENT to be cutting edge as in being elite with the
>> latest FreeBSD thus get bitten.
>>
>> I'd say, cut loose the wd driver.  (VoxWare removed would be cool too.)
>
> If half as much energy was spent adding the missing bits of functionality
> to the new systems as people have been spending complaining it then we'd be
> there ages ago.  Trying desperately to prolong the agony by keeping the old
> stuff on life support is counter productive.

There's more than energy involved.  We need the hardware.

> Damn it people!  If you want cyrix busmaster support, then the code
> is there, it's not all that hard to extract and adapt the cyrix code
> to ata.  If you have got cyrix hardware and can test your work, then
> even better.

Who are you talking to?  The relatively non-technical people who buy
the CDs because they know that FreeBSD is a reliable, no-problems
operating system.  Then they discover that functionality they had is
gone again.  Send that to /. and smoke it.

Like it or not, we have a reputation to maintain.  We have to live up
to expectations.

Greg
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