From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 15 15:51:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1ED7279 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 429497A3 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id va2so1116047obc.17 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:51:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=x3UHlB26EjlgK0jGNexbl3+C8rYWnvKUtUV7Eaj3bu8=; b=dViE0TbEuUAtXNls6bFIOxPMuWyr88Jk7PBFOkLAmU9Tf8iV7/oIkToQT3DAHFHkRq MWjJ1sZZbL4FMFiFpM6ONiiLp28Yo5A0cKTkq0KYI+WAD/btHkHzmrBL0UFwlokBX1ed QlxPu6fMqd5Z23G3skkyN0C+q9MyoIuL+MJi/mK9xGVHXuZ8ptpOpdtjyZGkEuDrkVjp bMgAwUAp93aGjiNJK1xKRWhD9BDD8z7cgMvps7/XLL7Z43vPBuUPQ35voutlKZh+MhKC bVqlQSUJaght1WqjmE9t2bWGJN8A6xzb90spWy07ZNqDPd07leSxpvtMHdiwy99AWUef 0SuQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnL9f4JT+hIpodxOPGAnH1Ppd95x/A+wq7kaRWgfkQ8X2EyMh3JRQFZ1zVpl84XWpDxljsn MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.236.65 with SMTP id us1mr28729205obc.38.1410795863842; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.220.134 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:44:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140910203722.GB20274@slackbox.erewhon.home> References: <20140910090947.4941336b.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20140910203722.GB20274@slackbox.erewhon.home> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:44:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: S + J for /tmp and /var and /? From: Michael Sierchio To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:51:36 -0000 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Roland Smith wrote: > You should definitely disable journaling when you want to make snapshots, e.g. > to dump a live filesystem. Quote https://wiki.freebsd.org/NewFAQs: > > If you want to use snapshot (dump -L) then disable the soft updates > journal for that filesystem This one wrinkle alone makes S + J unusable for me on any system I build, and I'd argue that enabling journaling by default is a mistake. - M