From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Apr 26 00:04:54 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B97FB381C for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2018 00:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22b.google.com (mail-ua0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E810D6B2F3 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2018 00:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id s15so16086981uae.10 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:04:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=LXH1F6AFM6SXggrL3x6TvJyNzSdwVSIlRrZNSMYOkpM=; b=ntbAuI9npmPFl+Oa8nIW5UEr2DHQMhV2Jiw0ZUIBdmSgWxUEUTjj6YNgvKBgrxRIA+ B3mQXg2/aybUKLkLbX4qIAemP7wSx5qKS95bnJuuRY51atOyasGKdcRbamJOLEHMdYyY zq7M8MwdJcvnyVguf4/u+KEg/DpJJ77YUOUfSZiuP3LTksTpao5zFZz0+urZtQcvrsYQ /u9x6Lz+bi8rpjg/v0aUydMeO0SnQ+BIQZGp2z65iHgSSopTz5f2SZyt47vns4lkmg4V G570yek2hfarQJOjNWoJj0JuZx7RuHXa15MZLiPs047MXiByOi/UaMqFwsTN27u095FA Qe4Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=LXH1F6AFM6SXggrL3x6TvJyNzSdwVSIlRrZNSMYOkpM=; b=PfoU5v3cxVB3OJ/5gwxJnm/U2drN3Z79bSoFymZ4yfH9Li+93Xks3O0LBRBKFo+q+M nIGlwY0BueLYJePxK7DPi2Ha30EBUlLMsRbJZtELHx50PTvbLBm+62UPslh6BR+51tpp j33aZyEQkTAKCDJeRu4ppJb12aqsYcSvDrSlmd8aD1Qg2WCQ96Jz5V996/MoZhHc54bF pA+nbmJ45qCNDVOVuHBM9F6u369vNOkLAO15P9pfuZnAmbsyrqOOrhufl+FwsrRSa4TQ 4gmhd01bFlslCUlEJQPY8wsway9a+Fwedfms/dSO4FcLc/kKfo9zLqVDvwKKk42cBvLs KdOw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tApH25XK5LIhN2ekd1QjZbfNvavx4HBRjilhjAHDQYKAMfG5ot5 jYLimrtZwz7e9XK/Mba3INLURJKb4CX5g0oxg14= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4/nQDWN2uEQ5aa+BHtEhS1RxkIua/J1xWYztHsPuG+7niUS16JYq3uts6j2X0NTzLwXv/oGr5Rtt/AErudhess= X-Received: by 10.176.79.3 with SMTP id n3mr23105482uah.172.1524701092922; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:04:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.21.133 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:04:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180425233158.6aa4ddd0@archlinux> References: <20180423224242.7299f430@WorkMachine> <20180424113308.52f35f93@WorkMachine> <20180424200924.12c648bf@archlinux> <20180424235410.5e175bc6@gumby.homeunix.com> <20180425185330.70fb9b1e.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> <20180425121249.3de329616ad9c07822e5e572@sohara.org> <20180425233158.6aa4ddd0@archlinux> From: Waitman Gobble Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:04:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: audiophile sound on FreeBSD ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 00:04:54 -0000 On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 5:31 PM, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > Comparing the same album from different sources is tricky for several > reasons, already if you compare two LPs played by the same record > player or two CDs by played by the same CD player. Two LPs or CDs from > different editions done in the same year, without any remastering, > could sound different, caused by fabrication issues. Two LPs or two CDs > from different years could differ by e.g. reduced dynamic, caused by a > remastering with an insane amount of compression, to increase the > impression of loudness, it's known as the loudness war. The peaks might > have the same level, while passages with lower levels might get higher > levels, so there is less difference between a silent passage and a loud > passage of a recording. There are many other known issues, especially > if something was released as a record first and years later was > released as a CD. Theoretically a CD could sound better than a record, > but indeed, often records sound much better. Let alone that a very old > record might suffer from disgusting scratches, but still could be > played, while a very old CD might suffer from fatal data loss, so > playing the CD might be impossible and even recovering of the still > available data and burning the recovered data to a new CD might lead to > nothing. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hardly anything recorded in a studio the past 20 years (30?) is over 48KHz. The actual master digital recordings are not hi definition. You can find modern classical music recordings with higher resolution. But there are also great recordings that were originally analog (like up until the 1990's) and digitized at 96/192 and you (well at least I) can tell the difference. (But there are also people who claim there is no difference in shooting JPEG format photos compared to shooting RAW, they claim they cannot see any difference when it's quite obvious there's more detail in RAW) If you want 96/192 on a pci card you'd need something several years old, verify the chipset and use OSS on FreeBSD. There are a couple good USB audio devices that do 96/192. I do not think you can get 96/192 out of any "Creative" device on FreeBSD. -- Waitman Gobble Los Altos California USA 650-621-0423