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Date:      Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:36:03 +0100
From:      Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>
To:        Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG>, Ed Schouten <ed@80386.nl>, David Xu <davidxu@FreeBSD.ORG>, src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/include Makefile spawn.h unistd.h src/lib/libc/gen Makefile.inc Symbol.map exec.3 exec.c posix_spawn.c
Message-ID:  <20080617183603.GD24940@submonkey.net>
In-Reply-To: <20080617170755.GA30958@zim.MIT.EDU>
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On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 01:07:55PM -0400, David Schultz wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> > Ed Schouten wrote:
> > >* David Schultz <das@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> > >>I have no objections to this, but doesn't it defeat the whole
> > >>purpose to implement posix_spawn() as a library function that just
> > >>calls fork/exec?
> > >
> > >When (if?) applications start to use posix_spawn() we may decide to mo=
ve
> > >it into the kernel at any time. It should be okay for now.
> >=20
> > Are there any benefits of doing it in the kernel vs. doing it via fork+=
exec?
>=20
> The only reason spawn exists is to better support platforms where
> fork is slow, so implementing it in terms of fork/exec defeats the
> purpose and potentially tricks configure scripts into making
> incorrect assumptions about performance tradeoffs.

It also helps on platforms like Solaris which refuse to overcommit,
where a large process, say a 4GB JVM, would otherwise need another 4GB
of swap free in order for fork to succeed.

Ceri
--=20
That must be wonderful!  I don't understand it at all.
                                                  -- Moliere

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