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Date:      Thu, 24 Feb 2005 03:37:44 -0500
From:      Mike Hauber <m.hauber@mchsi.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc:        atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr
Subject:   Re: Different OS's? Marketshare
Message-ID:  <200502240337.44986.m.hauber@mchsi.com>
In-Reply-To: <1723646570.20050224064608@wanadoo.fr>
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On Thursday 24 February 2005 12:46 am, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> Mike Hauber writes:
> > Found the thread...  Have you tried installing an older
> > version?
>
> No, but most of the problems I saw in my research were on 4.x
> or older versions.  This version (5.3) seems to run fine once
> it's up; the only problem is getting the machine to boot it. 
> Also, I'm getting those weird SCSI disk errors.
>

Yeah.  I just finished emailing someone who had the same problems, 
and it apparently isn't the problem I was having a while back.  
He also said that using the new version was the easier solution.

> > Well...  There's a lot of options available.  Personally, I
> > prefer something like blackbox for administrative logins. 
> > It's _very_ lightweight and (like all things should be), you
> > pretty much build it from the ground up.
>
> What do you mean by building it from the ground up?
>
> What do I get when I type startx by default?  It looks
> extremely simple, whatever it is, just a few simple windows in
> green borders on a rather irritating gray crosshatched
> background.

Hmmm...  I tend to view a wm about the same way I view win.exe 
(not in the disrespectful way, of course) in the respect that 
it's real purpose is to provide a pretty point and click menu 
system (which I'm not knocking).  It's very usefull and 
palletable to some, usually not a necessity, and downright 
apalling to others.  So when he said "I'm looking for a wm that's 
not windowsy,"  I translated that to, "I'm looking for a 
point/click menu system that's easy on the eyes, won't suck my 
processor dry, or populate ~ with a bunch of stuff I'm never 
going to use."

I mentioned that blackbox is what I use for administrative logins 
because you have to build it from the ground up (not in any 
literal sense (ie, not from a wm-developers point of view), but 
from the wm-user's view (for instance, I find the default menu 
(the purpose of the wm) to be pretty bare for my taste and 
therefore needs to be customized (built up).

Make sense?  Hope I wasn't any more confusing.  :)

Mike

ps.  What you get by default is more like the basement, man!  lol



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