From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 17 19:43:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from snowstorm.mail.pipex.net (snowstorm.mail.pipex.net [158.43.192.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A334F37B403 for ; Fri, 17 May 2002 19:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11281 invoked from network); 18 May 2002 02:42:49 -0000 Received: from userhh092.dsl.pipex.com (HELO ThisAddressDoesNotExist) (62.190.215.92) by smtp-5.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 18 May 2002 02:42:49 -0000 Subject: Re: How do I set the resolution for a new monitor? From: "S. Roberts" Reply-To: sroberts@dsl.pipex.com To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Cc: chip.wiegand@simrad.com, FreeBSD-Questions , owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020518115358.K62814@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <1021670265.751.6.camel@Demon.Strobe.org> <20020518115358.K62814@wantadilla.lemis.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-po3kHLv6+f30FnGFFQjZ" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Date: 18 May 2002 03:38:13 +0100 Message-Id: <1021689494.306.20.camel@Demon.Strobe.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-po3kHLv6+f30FnGFFQjZ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Greg, Gosh, thanks for getting back to me. I don't know if you've come across it as yet, but I sent in an update to my post, explaining the outcome of running XF86Config. In that post, I mentioned some details of the graphics card and included the graphics bits of the config file generated. For convenience, I'll say here as well that my graphics card is the ATI Rage 8MB XPERT 98, and the monitor is a Sun 21" FD Premium. Do let me know what you make of what I've said there. I've got your book, but to be honest, as my smaller monitor (Hansol 501P 15") worked so well with before at 1024 * 768), I didn't figure on having much problems with the Sun Monitor. In fact, after simply shutting down and connecting the Sun, the display graphics and text were very sharp and crisp - just that everything was huge. After running XF86Config though, sizes are much better, but everything's all grainy and the colours seem out of whack. I'll try having a go at the sections of the book, but I'll really appreciate your comments on my second posting. Thanks again, Stacey On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 03:23, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] >=20 > Multiple mutilations. >=20 > On Friday, 17 May 2002 at 22:17:45 +0100, S. Roberts wrote: > > On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 22:17, chip.wiegand@simrad.com wrote: > >> owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG wrote on 05/17/2002 01:51:55 PM: > >>> On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 21:53, chip.wiegand@simrad.com wrote: > >>>> owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG wrote on 05/17/2002 01:01:49 PM: > >>>> > >>>>> Hello, > >>>>> Sorry if this should be a walk in the park for some, but > >>>>> after reading about all the warnings, I thought I'd better ask > >>>>> before "trying to sort this" without more info. > >>>>> > >>>>> I've got a new monitor (Sun 21" FD Premium) and attached it to > >>>>> my FreeBSD box. It works fine enough, but my display is > >>>>> currently set to 1024 * 768, based on my previous XF86 configs > >>>>> from install time. > >>>>> > >>>>> The docs for the new monitor says that the recommended > >>>>> resolution to run it at is 1280 * 1024 with the following:- > >>>>> > >>>>> Horizontal Deflection Freq: 30 - 121 kHz > >>>>> Vertical Deflection Freq: 40 - 160 Hz >=20 > With those parameters, you can run up to 2048x1536. I'm currently > doing this resolution on an IBM P260, running at 114 kHz/73 Hz. >=20 > >>>>> Could someone please let me know, or point me to how I can > >>>>> "simply" reset the resolution to match those above? The sooner > >>>>> the better, if its not asking too much:-) > >>>> > >>>> Depends on which version of X you are running. If it's 4.x the > >>>> handbook has all the info you need, read chapter 5 section 4. > >>> > >>> I'm running XF863.3.X. > >>> > >>> This any help? > >> > >> You need to run XF86Config (or XF86Setup), preferably > >> XF86Config. If I recall correctly it is found in /usr/X11R6/ >=20 > You can also edit the XF86Config file directly. >=20 > >> You might want to consider upgrading to XFree86-4. >=20 > I'd recommend that too. In this case, you run X -configure. >=20 > > Do I need to log off of "X" before running XF86Config? > > > > I read through various books here (Handbook, Unleashed and Complete > > FreeBSD), but could find any references that actually addressed changin= g > > XF86 settings after initial installation. >=20 > Complete FreeBSD, third edition, page 144 and on, notably also page > 153. >=20 > > *Any* info would be appreciated here, In particular, I'm wondering abou= t > > not messing up my configs for mouse and keyboard settings (MS Natural > > Pro Ergonomic). Its just the monitor resolution I need to set. >=20 > Nobody can really tell you that until they know more about the display > card. >=20 > > I guess what I'm actually asking, is if its possible with XF86Config > > to just reset the resolution values to those of the new monitor. >=20 > No matter what manufacturers try to tell you, monitors don't have > resolution values. They have frequency ranges. You probably should > read the entire chapter 10 of CFBSD. >=20 > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the > original text. =20 > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html > See complete headers for address and phone numbers --=20 Stacey Roberts B.Sc. (HONS) Computer Science Network Systems Engineer --=-po3kHLv6+f30FnGFFQjZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Greg, Gosh, thanks for getting back to me. I don't know if you've come across it as yet, but I sent in an update to my post, explaining the outcome of running XF86Config. In that post, I mentioned some details of the graphics card and included the graphics bits of the config file generated. For convenience, I'll say here as well that my graphics card is the ATI Rage 8MB XPERT 98, and the monitor is a Sun 21" FD Premium. Do let me know what you make of what I've said there. I've got your book, but to be honest, as my smaller monitor (Hansol 501P 15") worked so well with before at 1024 * 768), I didn't figure on having much problems with the Sun Monitor. In fact, after simply shutting down and connecting the Sun, the display graphics and text were very sharp and crisp - just that everything was huge. After running XF86Config though, sizes are much better, but everything's all grainy and the colours seem out of whack. I'll try having a go at the sections of the book, but I'll really appreciate your comments on my second posting. Thanks again, Stacey On Sat, 2002-05-18 at 03:23, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] >=20 > Multiple mutilations. >=20 > On Friday, 17 May 2002 at 22:17:45 +0100, S. Roberts wrote: > > On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 22:17, chip.wiegand@simrad.com wrote: > >> owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG wrote on 05/17/2002 01:51:55 PM: > >>> On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 21:53, chip.wiegand@simrad.com wrote: > >>>> owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG wrote on 05/17/2002 01:01:49 PM: > >>>> > >>>>> Hello, > >>>>> Sorry if this should be a walk in the park for some, but > >>>>> after reading about all the warnings, I thought I'd better ask > >>>>> before "trying to sort this" without more info. > >>>>> > >>>>> I've got a new monitor (Sun 21" FD Premium) and attached it to > >>>>> my FreeBSD box. It works fine enough, but my display is > >>>>> currently set to 1024 * 768, based on my previous XF86 configs > >>>>> from install time. > >>>>> > >>>>> The docs for the new monitor says that the recommended > >>>>> resolution to run it at is 1280 * 1024 with the following:- > >>>>> > >>>>> Horizontal Deflection Freq: 30 - 121 kHz > >>>>> Vertical Deflection Freq: 40 - 160 Hz >=20 > With those parameters, you can run up to 2048x1536. I'm currently > doing this resolution on an IBM P260, running at 114 kHz/73 Hz. >=20 > >>>>> Could someone please let me know, or point me to how I can > >>>>> "simply" reset the resolution to match those above? The sooner > >>>>> the better, if its not asking too much:-) > >>>> > >>>> Depends on which version of X you are running. If it's 4.x the > >>>> handbook has all the info you need, read chapter 5 section 4. > >>> > >>> I'm running XF863.3.X. > >>> > >>> This any help? > >> > >> You need to run XF86Config (or XF86Setup), preferably > >> XF86Config. If I recall correctly it is found in /usr/X11R6/ >=20 > You can also edit the XF86Config file directly. >=20 > >> You might want to consider upgrading to XFree86-4. >=20 > I'd recommend that too. In this case, you run X -configure. >=20 > > Do I need to log off of "X" before running XF86Config? > > > > I read through various books here (Handbook, Unleashed and Complete > > FreeBSD), but could find any references that actually addressed changin= g > > XF86 settings after initial installation. >=20 > Complete FreeBSD, third edition, page 144 and on, notably also page > 153. >=20 > > *Any* info would be appreciated here, In particular, I'm wondering abou= t > > not messing up my configs for mouse and keyboard settings (MS Natural > > Pro Ergonomic). Its just the monitor resolution I need to set. >=20 > Nobody can really tell you that until they know more about the display > card. >=20 > > I guess what I'm actually asking, is if its possible with XF86Config > > to just reset the resolution values to those of the new monitor. >=20 > No matter what manufacturers try to tell you, monitors don't have > resolution values. They have frequency ranges. You probably should > read the entire chapter 10 of CFBSD. >=20 > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the > original text. =20 > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html > See complete headers for address and phone numbers - --=20 Stacey Roberts B.Sc. 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