From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 24 13:16:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 812258D1 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blu0-omc2-s38.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s38.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.113]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A85E14A8 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU179-W45 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s38.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 24 Feb 2014 05:15:00 -0800 X-TMN: [bFbzp+45WLs78XfcmHyfhoONkdRoEeVr] X-Originating-Email: [brunolauze@msn.com] Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-1?B?QnJ1bm8gTGF1euk=?= To: Darren Pilgrim , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: libinit idea Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:15:00 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <530A4D0A.5000604@bluerosetech.com> References: , , , <20140223182232.GA25967@lucius.XxX>, , <530A4D0A.5000604@bluerosetech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2014 13:15:00.0627 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C0B4E30:01CF3162] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 13:16:07 -0000 It's really good to read the comments and see people point of view on this = topic.=A0=0A= I totally agree RC system is really good and stable=2C easy and extensible.= =0A= The main concern I have here is performance. Starting a system is really sl= ow.=0A= Boot to X (with simple xdm) is minimum 25 secs and I just feel there's some= thing to do to cut this delay.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= ----------------------------------------=0A= > Date: Sun=2C 23 Feb 2014 11:33:30 -0800=0A= > From: list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com=0A= > To: fjwcash@gmail.com=0A= > Subject: Re: libinit idea=0A= > CC: freebsd-current@freebsd.org=0A= >=0A= > On 2/23/2014 10:31 AM=2C Freddie Cash wrote:=0A= >> The main developer for systemd is very anti-portability and anti-!Linux.= He=0A= >> had actively rejected patches that made his projects work on non-Linux= =0A= >> systems. In order to port systemd to a non-Linux system=2C he wants you = to=0A= >> first implement every Linux feature that systemd uses.=0A= >>=0A= >> systemd is a non-starter=2C and not with considering.=0A= >=0A= > It's pretty clear Lennart Poettering failed history.=0A= >=0A= > Perhaps the best examples of why systemd is an anti-pattern is this:=0A= > systemd stores logs in a binary journal. After the Linux zealots have=0A= > spent about two decades using binary system data storage as one of the=0A= > reasons Windows sucks=2C that strikes me as particularly ironic.=0A= >=0A= > The RC system we have is proof you do not need anything more than bourne= =0A= > and a respectable amount of intelligence to design a good init system.=0A= > _______________________________________________=0A= > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list=0A= > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current=0A= > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" =