From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 00:03:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDF7106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC108FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0P03hDX055459; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:03:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:03:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:02:58 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090125000258.GB31215@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <20090123170407.A38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090123170407.A38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:03:07 -0000 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:09:51PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Guys, I've got several directories off ~kline/ that I want to > > store permanently. Like all my development code in ~/devel, and > > all my music mp3's and ogg's in ~/Music, and all my online and > > mp3 books from libribox.org in ~/readings. There are PDF files > > and HTML and a slew of other stuff. > > man mkisofs > man growisofs > > that's all. > > mkisofs creates ISO image > growisofs records DVD > > you can make growisofs run mkisofs in-flight so no image file has to be > made. > > > > > > either a few CD's or one DVD? Right now, I'm cross-backing up > > it's best NOT to use "GUI" interfaces for this. as always - doing it from > command line is much easier when you learn. > I understand that! ...learned the hard way:) Then again, I cheated and successfully used the K3B data-dvd mode. It only seemed to work 50%, then hung, but amazingly, the folder icons on the top left were movable to the large space on the lower right half. I chose the verify option. Now back to my original plans of using the command-line tool set. So far, so good. After a dozen failures, your earlier post did work. I did a mkdir cdr; cp'd hundreds of megs into it, then ran mkisofs. And lastly ran dvdisaster against the iso file to get an ECC listing. Now to find out how to burn this image to a CD or DVD.... > > and - you ARE NOT forced to use ISO-9660 filesystem. > in unix recorded DVD is just readonly disk, you can use any filesystem it > supports. So long as this is readable on FBSD, Linux, or a Mac, I'll be happy. > > if you do this often and your DVD's don't need to be windoze-readable > (which could be adventage sometimes) then: > > - create partitions of exactly 9180416 sectors (which is 2295104 2K > sectors - exactly DVD size) > - use newfs to create partition. for best results use options > > newfs -m 0 -b 32768 -f 4096 -i 524288 > > note that -i specify how much bytes is available per inode. more > given=less inodes created and less space wasted, but you may run out of > inodes storing small files. > this example allows you to store about 8900 files. wHat are the numbers ofr a CD-R/CD+RW? Would growisofs be able to figure this out from scanning a 700MB disc? (I have more CD's than DVD's.) > > - mount it and record what you like as usual > - unmount and use growisofs to record a disc. > > use that disc with > mount -r /dev/cd0 /mountpoint > > Thanks much. A FWIW to anyone reading this who is new to this optical stuff. Roland Smith has an outstanding writeup on how to configure the /etc/devfs files. I used in in late '07, then after my network meltdown when I needed to start from square-one, his tutorial got me going again. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 00:09:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CAA106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5D18FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so3707788fgb.35 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:09:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tMqSmJCY4TURmIu+SBgPMRWtGgei5HzbnhF0R7ZZhH0=; b=nvMZrWGKhYcByYWJEcGMm2ZbZu5ZhQYkZaeQ6Ukh+Xo6UmATaDjsNoigMpyWF5vuy/ R/cqfEfaXC3D7nabA31cm1Pi1ZzUqbd823Oces914IhENrHKmH+ruttNSGVqKMkCxn+1 wuLsKgVZagdnCshekn88W/ubHaPTuRpBY6WIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=h5gHaj22IpmKcVPtBs9dXDYFpH12UUrWllv/6NpZGXSMLUnzAMRwHcncsZuZraPFB6 9y5BrLNzbzUH0QsfaoqiDp6h+rS4NYJYay9tlgHpZouhRGhpdu5znC8yK8A8hwnmG+Vj lG4PILha5bfO0LYeXMDBAhSc3lCgXlT9ZFxZk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.84.18 with SMTP id h18mr75805fgb.22.1232842191253; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:09:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3a142e750901240836s4461ee1dt9cdb806dcf34492a@mail.gmail.com> References: <9a52b1190901231938x390f04b4je541d2fa16f9f60a@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750901240445u36de7beeg737901c82c27f62f@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750901240836s4461ee1dt9cdb806dcf34492a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:09:51 +0000 Message-ID: From: Freminlins To: "Paul B. Mahol" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Saifi Khan , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: opera 9.63 installation and Qt version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:09:53 -0000 2009/1/24 Paul B. Mahol > > Well for 9.63 there is only static one for FreeBSD 5. > After all this is not freebsd problem, ask opera where is > static version for FreeBSD 7 ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/unix/freebsd/963/en/intel/static/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 00:10:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540A11065679 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC7D8FC24 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8793C50A19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:06 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AeveL3wk+iLr for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BBC86509D3; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090125001001.BBC86509D3@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-01-04 - 2009-01-24 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:10:07 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 00:12:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A3A1065686 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5E48FC19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freminlins@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so3708393fgb.35 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:12:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jGJH/iRMLWt8bxRCPONQYA5qI+14Z3A0qmfCu6Gymwo=; b=klseZyuZWpd5tSqKVzPPUa1p5lICIZw6vLv2V8+bHz5DnbVzGjNG6t8TXBMH+kh7T9 6kMAqC1aqPJSQewuV2d0NEj7id6ubahZ6L3uDVjoFWk6t2yq4BiB2B4e+GYeuBjirOjA kWTFY1XT/MZ3pD2xfml7e7+8QisHRflnMDjNQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=c7tJrZqC963zPdMTytY5xwt0RSxDMGq871pnIfvr+OvPpePqt/y3obUT1suk6D+Aqt R4VvJwB3uWJf94AjZWuevGZNYzJKbtBC/piI4ahjvTBuu968nMF++q/4u9VLlHnWak7I dp/TklyUZrZ5Iro1DoJFl+IAKxYMEkExcqaAg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.59.18 with SMTP id h18mr631508fga.5.1232842355661; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:12:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9a52b1190901231938x390f04b4je541d2fa16f9f60a@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750901240445u36de7beeg737901c82c27f62f@mail.gmail.com> <3a142e750901240836s4461ee1dt9cdb806dcf34492a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:12:35 +0000 Message-ID: From: Freminlins To: "Paul B. Mahol" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Saifi Khan , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: opera 9.63 installation and Qt version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:12:37 -0000 Sorry, my bad. I misread you wanted the static version for 7. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:03:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AC6106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F15E8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DCC16C018C; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:03:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P13oQQ001594; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:03:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:03:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tajudd@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:03:58 -0000 On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:14:08 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > You can always try to tar it up directly > > > > tar -czf /dev/acd0 ~kline/ ~devel/ > > Does it actually work to write to a burner without intervention by > the likes of cdrecord or burncd? If so, should it also be possible > to burn an existing .iso by something like > > dd if=cd1.iso of=/dev/acd0 bs=64b 1st: On FreeBSD, using direct write calls would involve the ATAPICAM facility, so /dev/cd0 instead of /dev/acd0 would be the correct device. 2nd: I'm not sure this works on FreeBSD, but I remember having used something similar on a SCSI CD recorder on a Sun or SGI system. I'm not sure which one it was, but it allowed to handle CDs the same way as other SCSI devices, like tape drives. You could try it out by loading the ATAPICAM subsystem (via kldload or compiled into kernel) and then try one of the commands above. I'm not sure dd works, but tar should. But to be honest, I've never tried it out because I'm very comfortable with cdrecord and cdrdao, and was with burncd in the past. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:11:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97856106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5794E8FC25 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A030C16C018C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P1BCun001620 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:11 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20090125021111.90661db0.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Comfortable dd bs= parameters for different media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:11:18 -0000 Hi, I'd like to ask which sizes are comfortable to use for reading from different media using the dd utility. As far as I know, these are good values: Format Device (example) bs= ------------- --------------------- ---- Data CD /dev/acd0 2048 Music CD /dev/acd0t01 2352 DVD /dev/acd0 2048 (?) Hard disk /dev/ad0s1g 1m (?) The usual command is % dd if=/dev/see-above of=somefile.dd bs=whatever What about copying partition-wise from a hard disk to a dd file? Which bs= parameter would be encouraged to use? -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:27:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 786FD106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F321B8FC13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B45D3CC76; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P1Ql7g001648; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:47 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Eduardo Cerejo Message-Id: <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:27:05 -0000 On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:15:47 -0500, Eduardo Cerejo wrote: > I just finished installing kde4, and it can barely run on my old p4 machine! > Where has kde gone? Is the developing team trying to beat VISTA? > Pitiful at best! Without wanting to start an endless discussion, I may say that I've recognized the tendency to slow down programs in UNIX world such as it is always described in "Windows" land: As soon as you get a new OS or new programs, everything runs slower than before. In order to keep the "overall usage speed", you need to have more hardware power. I'm running a P4 2GHz for more than 4 years now happily (I think), but when I needed to build a new software installation due to a data fallout in July 2008, I found everything running slower. THIS TO ALL FreeBSD DEVELOPERS: NOT YOUR FAULT! Every release of FreeBSD brought a higher bootup speed to my system, faster system services and better performance. But what about these advantages? They've got eaten up by all the applications installed, their libraries and especially their GUI toolkits. Nearly every Gtk application has been switched from Gtk 1 to Gtk 2, including more disk consuming libs and depencencies, slower program startup and slower reaction. My "favourite" examples are: * Opera, hardly reacting on input while loading a web page (and no, I don't try to use "Flash" stuff) * Gimp, loads very slowly, needs seconds (!) to show the right click menu, needs several seconds to launch printing dialog On the other hand, there are "old" programs that seem to profit from the system's speed gain. That's why I love to use them instead of their "oversized brothers". Such an "oversized brother" is KDE 4. Don't get me wrong, please. On an up-to-date hardware basis, it's surely a joy to use, fast and responsive. But if your system isn't from today, you don't gonna have fun with it. Around me, other users seem to favour Gnome instead of KDE because they are not willing to update their perfectly running hardware with every release of the desktop environment. (Addition: Gnome has better german internationalisation than KDE.) But I'm not sure if Gnome or even XFCE will follow the "tradition" to decrease speed, I'm using neither of them. Decrease speed? In my opinion, the following formula is true: hardware resources ----------------------- = usage speed software requirements And if you add ++ to numerator and denominator of this quotient, you'll see that the result will stay the same. This is my very individual observation: People are doing the same things with their computers over the years, and they keep doing it *at the same speed* as years ago. I always was happy when I could update my FreeBSD system, because things were faster afterwards. Today, things are slower afterwards. This makes me sad... This has lead me to the conclusion not to use KDE, allthough it has really interesting applications. It's not that I need a desktop GUI system, I'm perfectly happy with a functional and fast window manager (i. e. WindowMaker). Sorry for bothering the list with my thoughts, but maybe I'm not alone with this "unmodern" point of view. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:29:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D41110656CA for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99298FC18 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so232010ewy.19 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:28:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pt4b+XgHLCKdhuaS2IAWQQC7jPp14SExkS0FTcdIjZo=; b=kLQaJhakJQVjPoirfNdt6AGjl/h0V4mqwkzJHKGpycZyjvYl2MTGjJ5MJnm8f6N1hm tdI3h1jkC7feGJAhoqfA5j6D29/6nUXOZ4v022bUUBKUYJDbZL74AiOzXQAQSU2v2qU7 j/2HD2+GOAy8jHkDbm7ba0ix3VS0l03x1g5xg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=amBeUr461JA5iuBiIEIau/6zutadCpaVi/mYF6bvpvCRlqAnxULCeuL9Fm03qOOpo4 fp2ie5sl5JZrQU8HovE47M+U5OyfxM/F6Wizw6kSRrfjN45ZIVWqwetTynGiUlhP8YSc pOsk9YNpohb9SVFy7+2HlaBxwoA014EVh+irs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.119.16 with SMTP id r16mr2036550ebc.42.1232845058231; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:57:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:57:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: EA EA To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: X panics on xorg 7.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:29:01 -0000 I just upgraded X and when I started X with a fresh config. When X starts I see the normal no-wm-yet screen with an unmovable mouse. When I press ctrl+alt+spc I hear 3 beeps followed by a black screen. I tried x11/nvidia-driver and x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv. What should I be trying to fix it? What information do you (I?) need to debug? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:32:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34227106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD0E8FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slackwarewolf@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7SJi1b00F0vp7WLAAdYVAH; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:32:29 +0000 Received: from FreeBSD.UNIXMuse.goreBSD.org ([76.112.93.25]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7dYT1b00G0Yq9Sc8RdYUvp; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:32:28 +0000 Message-ID: <497BC134.6060300@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:32:36 -0500 From: Akenner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090124012329.N39560@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090123171148.348ca12c@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <20090123171148.348ca12c@gom.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:32:28 -0000 prad wrote: > :D :D :D > actually my wife is using kde4 on suse. > it's not too bad there for her needs at least, but i try to stay clear > of her computer :D > i did like kde3, but now i'm a dwm person! > > I've been using KDE4 on a machine with OpenSUSE 11 that has 512 MBs RAM, and an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ processor at 2.13GHz and it hasn't been slow or anything. I've also been fine with a Pentium 4 M @3.06GHz and 512 RAM. -Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:35:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6091C106570B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8018FC26 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:35:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE18C3CBC2; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:34:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P1Yk3S001671; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:34:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:34:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Dan Nelson Message-Id: <20090125023445.228e1375.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090124080755.GB63837@dan.emsphone.com> References: <9a52b1190901232301g3339fe3bi508b04ef3aef1a3e@mail.gmail.com> <497AC692.2080401@gmail.com> <20090124080755.GB63837@dan.emsphone.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tim Judd , Saifi Khan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to scrollback in terminal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:35:03 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 02:07:59 -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jan 24), Tim Judd said: > > Saifi Khan wrote: > > > > > > i'd like to scrollback on the multi page output on the terminal in > > > FreeBSD 7.1 > > > > > > SHIFT key + Pg Up doesn't seem to work. > > > > > > Can somebody post how to scrollback in terminal ? > > > > scroll lock, and pgup That's what Scroll Lock is for (and always has been); I'm glad that FreeBSD uses this key functionality as it has been intended, so there's not another useless key on the keyboard (such as the MICROS~1 advertising keys on "modern" ones)... :-) > After you hit scroll-lock, up/down/pgup/pgdn/home/end all work, you can > copy and paste the history text with your mouse, and there's a separate > history per VTY. You can also set the number of scrollback lines with > the "vidcontrol -n ###" command. While in "Scroll Lock mode", you can even enter characters using the keyboard; they won't show up until ScrL is pressed the next time, but while entering the content of the screen (usually shifted some lines / pages up) won't alter. This can be very handy in situations where you first ScrL the screen, go up some pages, select text with the mouse, output it from the edit buffer to the command line using the middle mouse button and then un-ScrL to complete your command line and execute it. > Significantly better than Linux's > scrollback... Definitely. I think the Linux way of scrollback is available in xterms... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:54:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43993106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:54:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E328FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146613CB3C; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P1rkNi001712; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:46 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090125025346.3c67b14b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125000258.GB31215@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <20090123170407.A38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090125000258.GB31215@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:54:06 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:02:58 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > After a dozen failures, your earlier post did work. I did a > mkdir cdr; cp'd hundreds of megs into it, then ran mkisofs. And > lastly ran dvdisaster against the iso file to get an ECC listing. > > Now to find out how to burn this image to a CD or DVD.... There are several possibilities. The hard way? :-) 1. Record on CD-R(W) a) FreeBSD's burncd % burncd -e -v -s 16 -f /dev/acd0 data cdr.iso fixate b) The port cdrtools (includes cdrecord) % cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data cdr.iso 2. Record on DVD+-*/R(W) The port dvd+rw-tools (includes growisofs) growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=cdr.iso This example implies the following setting in /etc/devfs.conf: link cd0 dvd Alter device to fit your needs. As aleays, check the manpages. They're helpful and include kind-of copy & paste examples. Note that 1 b) and 2 need atapicam (in kernel or via kldload). For 1 b), you can check which SCSI ID corresponds to your recorder using the command % camcontrol devlist Have in mind that permissions have to be set correctly in order to access these devices for writing. It's intended to be that way. :-) Finally, check the optimal writing speed for your CDs and DVDs. > So long as this is readable on FBSD, Linux, or a Mac, I'll be > happy. These platforms will read everything that has been mentioned in this thread already, because they're real operating systems (and not excuses for being none). :-) I think the ISO-9660 + RockRidge is the most comfortable way for what you intend - allthough the tar method (or even the UFS method) won't be any problem here. But as I said, maximum compatibility is always welcome for backups. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 01:56:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B68106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A577E8FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:56:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0P1vHRw056401; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:57:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:56:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:56:33 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: tajudd@gmail.com, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:56:57 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:03:49AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 10:14:08 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > You can always try to tar it up directly > > > > > > tar -czf /dev/acd0 ~kline/ ~devel/ > > > > Does it actually work to write to a burner without intervention by > > the likes of cdrecord or burncd? If so, should it also be possible > > to burn an existing .iso by something like > > > > dd if=cd1.iso of=/dev/acd0 bs=64b > > 1st: On FreeBSD, using direct write calls would involve the ATAPICAM > facility, so /dev/cd0 instead of /dev/acd0 would be the correct device. > > 2nd: I'm not sure this works on FreeBSD, but I remember having used > something similar on a SCSI CD recorder on a Sun or SGI system. I'm > not sure which one it was, but it allowed to handle CDs the same way > as other SCSI devices, like tape drives. > > You could try it out by loading the ATAPICAM subsystem (via kldload > or compiled into kernel) and then try one of the commands above. > I'm not sure dd works, but tar should. But to be honest, I've never > tried it out because I'm very comfortable with cdrecord and cdrdao, > and was with burncd in the past. > > > This is my chance to ask a last [ or one-of the last ] question[s]. Now that I have cdr.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CDROM 642848 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 657922048 Jan 24 15:34 cdr.iso what is the safest command to use to burn to 1. a CD, and 2. a DVD? Since `file' says that cdr.iso is a filesystem, I'm assuming that I don't need to grow or newfs anything on the disc. cdrdao seems like more toward audio, so i'm guessing that it's either cdrecord or burncd. I'll share my shell script once it works on both media. thankee, gary > > > > -- > Polytropon > >From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:01:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9251065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:01:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffreyhellem@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1FB8FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffreyhellem@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5450342rvf.43 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:01:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mROAlN701V8pBKUk/VDXzOegjzgHXnHpUVSRlPJpBKs=; b=ZznKIz8wPV+cD26Z58/BEeFfmpANnkz3ydBbHa2Gudh6+yy5FeO+mrpZyGU9GprdxW nbxuFD/QHJ8VvfMXhFwHM4cZKfD2PQoME+Gkm6jYRmG8KMlTXfilQTcDmqtp4t8h7HGS ciRWq8SJCracTi7zdwEUOQNhewwn8Jc8iXyYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vCd83EVEhTjWfzXBQCzYMptctsM6ROiXhQuG2kxyay2gloaNaLGaw/QWX7XQxU+QqG 6yKZ3EDGB7hVSrHYTZkf13TcIns1aLhgDpB0DYyEFqdxMHOmAMfKzcfFZuBLqP4kSSh+ 0+ZO8I4dQOuYvcrT3D8K4nUeN8t/g7Kr1YrLE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.43.19 with SMTP id q19mr146318wfq.286.1232847428554; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:37:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:37:08 -0500 Message-ID: <85c8e1e10901241737t4077ce4fjfc611aa849de2702@mail.gmail.com> From: "Jeffrey R. Hellem" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Wierd Port Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:01:54 -0000 I aborted a make now it will not make php5-dba [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# make ===> PHPizing for php5-dba-5.2.8 cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba/work/php-5.2.8/ext/dba *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba. the work directory doesn't exist i cleared /var/db/ports it still won't make anyone have suggestions? i tried make clean [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# make clean ===> Cleaning for php5-dba-5.2.8 [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# i tried make install [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# make install install: /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba/work/php-5.2.8/ext/dba/modules/dba.so: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 1 error *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba. i tried make [root@server /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba]# make ===> PHPizing for php5-dba-5.2.8 cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba/work/php-5.2.8/ext/dba *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/php5-dba. still nothing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:11:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FC71065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34D58FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LQuSp-00012W-6k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:11:07 +1100 Message-ID: <497BCA46.9090609@maydias.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:11:18 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090119) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: error trying to burncd thhen ecomign unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:09 -0000 I havee 2 burrners in my machine and not one off them will bburn a CD or DVD from command line let alone trying to get k3b to recognise i even have a scsi burner... enterprise# burncd -e -v -s 16 -f /dev/acd0 data neroultraV7.iso fixate adding type 0x08 file neroultraV7.iso size 620990 KB 310495 blocks burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCINITTRACK): Input/output error After this error the ROM drives stays in a constant state of spin and the process refuses to die even after issuing the kill -9 What am i doing wrrong or what is wroong with my system to not allow me to burn a cd//dvd? I am usingg FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE AMD64 KDE 4.1.4 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:19:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BA7106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6462C8FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F0F3CBAA; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:18:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P2IhEZ002091; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:18:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:18:43 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090125031843.51f47ee3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tajudd@gmail.com, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:19:05 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:56:33 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Now that I have > > cdr.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CDROM > 642848 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 657922048 Jan 24 15:34 cdr.iso > > what is the safest command to use to burn to 1. a CD, and 2. a > DVD? Since `file' says that cdr.iso is a filesystem, I'm > assuming that I don't need to grow or newfs anything on the disc. You're right. It is a pre-mastered file system that just needs to be recorded onto a media. The size 657922048 indicates that it would fit onto a regular CD-R. > cdrdao seems like more toward audio, so i'm guessing that it's > either cdrecord or burncd. I'll share my shell script once it > works on both media. Yes, both will work, and yes, cdrdao is better for audio or mixed forms (allthough it can burn data ISO, too, but I don't know how, out of the box). :-) You may follow my examples from Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:53:46 +0100. I'm a lazy guy, so I've setup the following aliases in /etc/csh.cshrc: alias burndata 'cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data' alias burnaudio 'cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -dao -audio' alias burntoc 'cdrdao write --driver generic-mmc-raw --device 1,0,0 --speed 16 --eject' And I've got a shell script "burndvd" in ~/bin (included in $PATH): #!/bin/sh if [ "$1" = "" ]; then echo "$0 " exit 1 fi if [ ! -f "$1" ]; then echo "$0: cannot open $1" exit 1 fi growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=$1 cdcontrol eject I know this is *very* lazy stuff, but it works, and I never change a running system. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:26:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B9F1065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6928FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n0P2Pu9a001542 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:25:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n0P2PuaC001541; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA13385; Sat, 24 Jan 09 17:43:43 PST Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:45:26 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Message-Id: <497bc436.fNXOAyK1W2GhLkwf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <3.0.1.32.20090123081931.00ed6460@sage-american.com> <20090123170132.M38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1232756388.2027.10.camel@laptop2.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20090124114057.X40562@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20090124114057.X40562@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Registry corrupt? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:26:21 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> describe something more. > >> and what you mean "rehash"? > > > > Rehashing forces the shell to "reinitialise" (for want of a > > better term) so that it rechecks the path and can sometimes > > discover new programs installed if they don't seem to work ... > > ok you mean shell rehashing. so PATH is missing something Or an executable was added to one of the PATH directories since the last time PATH was set or the "rehash" command was issued, e.g. when a port was installed or upgraded. See tcsh(1) for details. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:27:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E42A106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9938FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:27:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6D716C0097; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:27:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P2QxKh002124; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:26:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:26:59 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Warren Liddell Message-Id: <20090125032659.8628aa88.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <497BCA46.9090609@maydias.com> References: <497BCA46.9090609@maydias.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error trying to burncd thhen ecomign unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:27:07 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:11:18 +1000, Warren Liddell wrote: > I havee 2 burrners in my machine and not one off them will bburn a CD or > DVD from command line let alone trying to get k3b to recognise i even > have a scsi burner... > > [...] > > After this error the ROM drives stays in a constant state of spin and > the process refuses to die even after issuing the kill -9 > I had similar problems, so I dropped burncd in favour of cdrecord which I'm using for burning ISO data CDs. > What am i doing wrrong or what is wroong with my system to not allow me > to burn a cd//dvd? For a CD, try % cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data neroultraV7.iso Check the SCSI device numbers using % camcontrol devlist and adjust the dev= parameter accordingly. For a DVD, try % growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=neroultraV7.iso Excange /dev/dvd for the correct drive (e. g. /dev/cd0). > I am usingg FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE AMD64 KDE 4.1.4 I don't know exactly, but can K3B be adjusted to use a specific command line burning tool to record pre-mastered ISO files onto CD or DVD? Maybe you could put one of the command lines above into this program... (I'm no KDE user, so I can't check this.) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:32:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600C0106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147B58FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:32:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0P2WkWi056663; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:32:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:32:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:32:01 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Polytropon Message-ID: <20090125023201.GE31215@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <20090123170407.A38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090125000258.GB31215@thought.org> <20090125025346.3c67b14b.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090125025346.3c67b14b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:32:21 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:53:46AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:02:58 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > After a dozen failures, your earlier post did work. I did a > > mkdir cdr; cp'd hundreds of megs into it, then ran mkisofs. And > > lastly ran dvdisaster against the iso file to get an ECC listing. > > > > Now to find out how to burn this image to a CD or DVD.... > > There are several possibilities. The hard way? :-) > > 1. Record on CD-R(W) > > a) FreeBSD's burncd > > % burncd -e -v -s 16 -f /dev/acd0 data cdr.iso fixate > > b) The port cdrtools (includes cdrecord) > > % cdrecord dev=1,0,0 speed=16 -v -eject -tao -data cdr.iso > > 2. Record on DVD+-*/R(W) > > The port dvd+rw-tools (includes growisofs) > > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=cdr.iso > > This example implies the following setting in /etc/devfs.conf: > > link cd0 dvd > > Alter device to fit your needs. > > As aleays, check the manpages. They're helpful and include kind-of > copy & paste examples. > > Note that 1 b) and 2 need atapicam (in kernel or via kldload). > > For 1 b), you can check which SCSI ID corresponds to your recorder > using the command > > % camcontrol devlist > > Have in mind that permissions have to be set correctly in order to > access these devices for writing. It's intended to be that way. :-) > > Finally, check the optimal writing speed for your CDs and DVDs. > > > > > So long as this is readable on FBSD, Linux, or a Mac, I'll be > > happy. > > These platforms will read everything that has been mentioned in > this thread already, because they're real operating systems (and > not excuses for being none). :-) > > I think the ISO-9660 + RockRidge is the most comfortable way for > what you intend - allthough the tar method (or even the UFS method) > won't be any problem here. But as I said, maximum compatibility is > always welcome for backups. > Max, yes, even if all I have is DOS :-) Thanks very much. I do have dvd linked in /etc/devfs.conf, as well as the atapi/cam/SCSI xpt stuff compiled in. So the last step would seem to be simply mousing in your cdrecord for my CD's. Probably use a seperate script for the DVD's and growiofs. gary > > > -- > Polytropon > From Magdeburg, Germany > Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 > Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:35:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DBF106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58E78FC17 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB5E36A15; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:35:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:35:44 +0100 From: cpghost To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20090125023544.GD6405@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:35:13 -0000 On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 05:56:33PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Now that I have > > cdr.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CDROM > 642848 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 657922048 Jan 24 15:34 cdr.iso > > what is the safest command to use to burn to 1. a CD, and 2. a > DVD? Since `file' says that cdr.iso is a filesystem, I'm > assuming that I don't need to grow or newfs anything on the disc. In addition to the cdrecord examples shown earlier, you can also simply use burncd: # burncd -f /dev/acd0 -s max data cdr.iso fixate But remember one thing: don't try to mix and match accesses to /dev/acd0 and /dev/cd0. IIRC, there are (were?) some issues with using ATAPI and ATAPICAM drivers simultaneously. If you prefer to stick to ATAPICAM (recommended), use cdrecord to write to the virtual device represending the burner. Use cdrecord's -scanbus option (as root!) to find out: phenom# cdrecord -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (amd64-unknown-freebsd7.1) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) * 0,1,0 1) 'Optiarc ' 'DVD RW AD-7203A ' '1.01' Removable CD-ROM 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * This would then be on that machine: # cdrecord -v speed=8 dev=0,1,0 cdr.iso To burn to a DVD, use growisofs, using something like this: # growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=8 -Z /dev/cd0=cdr.iso Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:42:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7AA106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:42:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F328FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:42:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA8216C0097; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:42:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P2gSkV002168; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:42:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:42:28 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20090125034228.f8ccd623.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125023201.GE31215@thought.org> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <20090123170407.A38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090125000258.GB31215@thought.org> <20090125025346.3c67b14b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125023201.GE31215@thought.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:42:36 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:32:01 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Max, yes, even if all I have is DOS :-) Sure, no problem. Erm stop, no, little problem with DOS: It will cut off filenames at 8.3 convention because DOS only gets the ISO-9660 part, but not the standard RockRidge (or even the non- standard "Joliet" extension). But because RockRidge is standard, it provides the RR_MOVED mechanism which can be used to obtain the "real" filenames from the ISO-9660 8.3 names. > Thanks very much. I do have dvd linked in /etc/devfs.conf, as > well as the atapi/cam/SCSI xpt stuff compiled in. You just need to have the proper permissions, or call the command with a "sudo" prefix - I prefer the first option. > Probably use a seperate script for the DVD's and growiofs. Because the geowisofs burning command doesn't allow the file name for the ISO to be a separate parameter, I chose to put it into a little shell script. That's the only reason that I didn't create an alias in /etc/csh.cshrc. If something like % growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd -f cdr.iso ^^^^^^^^^^, fictional parameter would be possible, I would really prefer it. The alias could then be everything until "-f" (which would read out "use this file as image" instead of the "device=file" parameter which isn't good for creating an alias (such as for cdrecord or cdrdao). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 02:51:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB385106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C05D8FC1F for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C5E16C0097; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:51:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P2pK6n002210; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:51:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:51:20 +0100 From: Polytropon To: cpghost Message-Id: <20090125035120.857ab8d3.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125023544.GD6405@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> <20090125023544.GD6405@phenom.cordula.ws> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:51:27 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:35:44 +0100, cpghost wrote: > In addition to the cdrecord examples shown earlier, you can also > simply use burncd: > > # burncd -f /dev/acd0 -s max data cdr.iso fixate An addition: -s max will select the drive's fastest speed. This can lead to problems if your media is cheap and can't handle a speed of 32x or 48x (writing speed). You can manually set a speed where you and your media feel safe. :-) Personally, I don't record faster than 16x. There is a saying (urband legend?) that you shouldn't record audio CDs faster than 8x, but I'm not sure if this applies. > But remember one thing: don't try to mix and match accesses to > /dev/acd0 and /dev/cd0. IIRC, there are (were?) some issues with > using ATAPI and ATAPICAM drivers simultaneously. I haven't found such issues yet, but I dropped burncd some time ago because it wouldn't work on /dev/acd0 anymore (on 5.x, it did and was my preferred tool), so I switched to cdrecord and cdrdao, using the ATAPICAM facility. > If you prefer to stick to ATAPICAM (recommended), use cdrecord > to write to the virtual device represending the burner. Use > cdrecord's -scanbus option (as root!) to find out: > > phenom# cdrecord -scanbus > [...] > 0,1,0 1) 'Optiarc ' 'DVD RW AD-7203A ' '1.01' Removable CD-ROM > [...] I think the camcontrol utility (provided by the OS) works, too: % camcontrol devlist at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (cd0,pass0) ^ ^ ^ ^^^ This command shows you the SCSI ID 1,0,0 and the device /dev/cd0 for the recorder at the same time. Instead of giving them as command line options to the various tools, you can create their config files and put this information there (refer to the manpages for the name and content description of the files). But because on systems the SCSI ID's don't change on a regular basis, using wrapper scripts or shell aliases will make burning comfortable, and they need service only if you change something in the hardware. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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(CPE-65-29-54-222.wi.res.rr.com [65.29.54.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d12sm18705164and.44.2009.01.24.19.17.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:17:09 -0800 (PST) From: Ajtim Civolvap To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:16:55 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901242116.55335.lumiwa@gmail.com> Subject: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:17:11 -0000 Hi! My system 7.1. I am (was) user of postmaster but the last update for Xorg it did mess. Than I use portupgrade -arR and was okay, X works okay but when I run: portupgrade -arR ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga: is marked as broken: Needs to be removed ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-drivers/xf86-video-via: requires pciVideoPtr typedef ** Port directory not found: x11/xorg-protos ** Port directory not found: x11/xphelloworld ---> Skipping 'x11/xorg-apps' (xorg-apps-7.3) because a requisite package 'xphelloworld-1.0.1_1' (x11/xphelloworld) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'x11-drivers/xorg-drivers' (xorg-drivers-7.3_3) because a requisite package 'xf86-video-via-0.2.2_3' (x11-drivers/xf86-video-via) failed (specify -k to force) ---> Skipping 'x11/xorg' (xorg-7.3_2) because a requisite package 'xorg-apps-7.3' (x11/xorg-apps) failed (specify -k to force) ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga (marked as IGNORE) - x11-drivers/xf86-video-via (marked as IGNORE) - x11/xorg-protos (port directory error) - x11/xphelloworld (port directory error) * x11/xorg-apps (xorg-apps-7.3) * x11-drivers/xorg-drivers (xorg-drivers-7.3_3) * x11/xorg (xorg-7.3_2) I understand for VGA or VIA port but how can correct the other, please? Thanks in advance. 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There was not a lot of response. One suggestion for Tcl and one for Ruby. I figured that all of the possibilities were going to be a pain to develop in their own unique way, so that was probably not the best evaluation criteria. The best choice was going to be the one that the people who were going to use it every day were the most comfortable with. So what I did was code up little samples in each of the serious contenders: Lua, Python, Ruby, and Tcl. Without telling people which language was which, I sent them around for votes. I really liked the Tcl syntax and I thought it was going to do really well, but Python came back the winner. Even so, I kept researching for farther-flung alternatives and turned up a couple of others as well, although several of the "embedded languages" are pretty stale, dead, or haven't gotten past 0.0.1-pre-alpha. Of the "haven't heard of it before" languages, only one called Pike earned serious consideration. (Technically I had heard of its predecessor LPC, but only as a result of a misspent youth. :-) ) Pike and Python went head to head and, probably since our team is heavy with C++ programmers, Pike came out on top. So, we've started doing a proof-of-concept using Pike and we'll see how it goes. So far so good, and it's actually a pretty fun language to work with. -LM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 04:05:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CC5106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E1C8FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:05:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id d26so681541eyd.7 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:05:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=WeJjFH3NRJdqdtTPfJZPsfTTHrwmUfDTzieCN+zQXmA=; b=nwp+tUTT+J9MFBONiWnNF0oziq+lovSGSifqTCXq+7Lk1E52CEKZm+EblKC5qrCQ7T uT+FtjidcE19zzwiBKKt2OXLBKUU3k+uvrxbD/xdcHafBeZNkAyid64404GhQ02PK3+y D2D/B5DSt5faPImx6v7uOc22cIa57ZuwKaOr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sycA949QYyLWaHWl0J0+u/eKKPxwrqhUSy3ciVR7nDn0FMhXKnJwQiT8Y60z9gpLJX 5HKjtEQ40vKgYkETVxp4hMC2PstDWh1Vbt6O23zZmKtflShW02Rha2TDbWcC3ws8uZmw R2xX1/aDQF5ywWe2tFXmObJeaT+dlIY0iYgvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.87.19 with SMTP id k19mr2031314ebb.79.1232856319065; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:05:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:05:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: EA EA To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: dlopen Undefined symbol with x11/nvidia-driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:05:20 -0000 dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so: Undefined symbol "miZeroLineScreenIndex" (EE) Failed to load /usr/local/lib/modules//libfw.so (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (loader failed 7) Fatal server error: Caught sigal 11. Server aborting Abort trap: 6 (core dumped) Any idea what is causing this or how to fix it ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 04:15:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E6B1065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wclark@dl1.njit.edu) Received: from mail-gw4.njit.edu (mail.njit.edu [128.235.251.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FFA8FC13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wclark@dl1.njit.edu) Received: from dl1.njit.edu (dl1.njit.edu [128.235.112.11]) by mail-gw4.njit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0P3ZQYg016451 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dl1.njit.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dl1.njit.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P3T1E8090630 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wclark@dl1.njit.edu) Received: (from www@localhost) by dl1.njit.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0P3T1Zj090629; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wclark@dl1.njit.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: dl1.njit.edu: www set sender to wclark@dl1.njit.edu using -f Received: from 71.250.191.118 (SquirrelMail authenticated user wclark) by dl1.njit.edu with HTTP; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <06f1971fe3096c2194373fe9f642bd91.squirrel@dl1.njit.edu> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 (EST) From: wclark@dl1.njit.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (dl1.njit.edu [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:15:46 -0000 I just in stalled VTiger and missed the instructions on how to install it .do know or is there a command that will let me find that info wc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 04:55:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C141065674 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843898FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5486841rvf.43 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:55:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wy4qZAQUBSN0rGJSpAZIErf0f6hbjN8fwEk4jfgDSnk=; b=Pbe+5tGM2aYvdAEJznL/Jf7Yuo3dkHpgYonncu/m794oI9NaCtLQim5DjTfhea/hBK 6hMgMH5w4svPi49rFUnwYa/kum4OqNm8/Ei3hPI3E9YvBgXEfdB5Qwe82eqOKSqs6uYI A8EK7ugzERkjHrdm/cXn98UjY5pngA5PpQyMk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ZDQjaPP5KPwRHYTY9BQ8RQg/tb2poVNg0hTCIXMHw3cHh7k8jHXlfBG3tU1bAe0B/W 6pXJjK7+tBz6nWi1Vp0CcNj+l46dFMd6j4W/7e/8HmmDe6HhUh3b6UGjERKAs04DGYWy 2jKHEpQYrQNG2mQybvjnvWxhWCIkMtZIWe0uo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: saifikhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.141.128.19 with SMTP id f19mr1407005rvn.9.1232859329280; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:55:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <237c27100901241934y64525bcey93103ae207c7c88f@mail.gmail.com> References: <237c27100901181541n412f66c3v24ebae43b9efc313@mail.gmail.com> <18804.55465.773953.874060@almost.alerce.com> <237c27100901241934y64525bcey93103ae207c7c88f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:55:29 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 73202c5a4eb2cfff Message-ID: <9a52b1190901242055r731a6622xb849bcd0b0b48782@mail.gmail.com> From: Saifi Khan To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Embedded scripting language advice sought X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:55:30 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Linda Messerschmidt wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:46 PM, George Hartzell wrote: >> I don't have any useful advice to offer, but I would love it if you >> would summarize anything interesting that you get. >> >> I do a lot of computational biology work and am always interested in >> extension language for my computing systems. > > There was not a lot of response. One suggestion for Tcl and one for Ruby. > > I figured that all of the possibilities were going to be a pain to > develop in their own unique way, so that was probably not the best > evaluation criteria. The best choice was going to be the one that the > people who were going to use it every day were the most comfortable > with. > > So what I did was code up little samples in each of the serious > contenders: Lua, Python, Ruby, and Tcl. Without telling people which > language was which, I sent them around for votes. I really liked the > Tcl syntax and I thought it was going to do really well, but Python > came back the winner. > > Even so, I kept researching for farther-flung alternatives and turned > up a couple of others as well, although several of the "embedded > languages" are pretty stale, dead, or haven't gotten past > 0.0.1-pre-alpha. Of the "haven't heard of it before" languages, only > one called Pike earned serious consideration. (Technically I had > heard of its predecessor LPC, but only as a result of a misspent > youth. :-) ) > > Pike and Python went head to head and, probably since our team is > heavy with C++ programmers, Pike came out on top. > > So, we've started doing a proof-of-concept using Pike and we'll see > how it goes. So far so good, and it's actually a pretty fun language > to work with. > > -LM Are you saying the choice is made on the basis of 'likeability' and not 'technical merit' ? -- thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 05:14:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9839106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (pool-71-117-207-61.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [71.117.207.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF67D8FC18 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: by sopwith.solgatos.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 364CCB64F; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id RAA07150; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:06:50 GMT Message-Id: <200901241706.RAA07150@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:17:17 GMT." <497AEAAD.6020701@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:06:50 +0000 From: Dieter Cc: Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:14:34 -0000 > > AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory > > > > My console says: > > > > login: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > > > > pstat -sk > > Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity > > /dev/ad6s10 4590208 96 4590112 0% > > > > Wow, using a whole 96K of swap. I don't see any disk related > > complaints in dmesg. > > > > Is this something to worry about? > > Yes, the system was *trying* to do swap I/O and timing out while doing so. > > Kris Whoops, I forgot to change the subject line after adding the k option to pstat. Without the k it said 0 used. And this morning it occurs to me that even if swap used was zero, it could have been trying to *start* using swap. Anyway... given this timeout explaination, I'm guessing that page/swap has to compete with user processes for disk i/o, and thus probably suffers from the same lack of fair i/o scheduling that user processes suffer from. E.g. one process doing disk i/o can lock out another process for at least several minutes, probably indefinitely. :-( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 05:14:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00250106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (pool-71-117-207-61.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [71.117.207.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF73B8FC19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: by sopwith.solgatos.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 0633BB650; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:07:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id WAA12837; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:48:39 GMT Message-Id: <200901242248.WAA12837@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:28:07 MST." <497B87E7.6020601@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:48:39 +0000 From: Dieter Cc: Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:14:34 -0000 > >> AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory > >> > >> My console says: > >> > >> login: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, > >> size: 4096 > >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 > >> > >> pstat -sk > >> Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity > >> /dev/ad6s10 4590208 96 4590112 0% > >> > >> Wow, using a whole 96K of swap. I don't see any disk related > >> complaints in dmesg. > >> > >> Is this something to worry about? > > > > Yes, the system was *trying* to do swap I/O and timing out while doing > > so. > isn't swapspace supposed to be on a 'b' partition? Are you using swap > on a slice 10? how is that possible when the i386/amd64 BIOS can't see > more than 4 primary partitions? > > Kris, would you mind giving input to this? How can there be a s10, and > how can you add swapspace to a device that isn't a partition 'b' nor a > file backed swapspace? Those were the only two ways I thought was > supported for swap. > > Dieter, does my questions above sound to be a correct interpretation of > your disk setup? Traditionally swap used the b partition. But then traditionally, there weren't MBR style partitions, called "slices" in FreeBSD-land. I suspect that the computers Unix grew up on (PDP-7, PDP-11, VAX) had to boot from the beginning of the disk, so the a partition went there. The Alpha continues in this DEC tradition. I was about to say that swap went next for speed, since the machines back then never had enough main memory, but those old disks didn't have variable number of sectors on inner vs outer tracks, so the speed would have been the same across the platter. So I'm not sure why swap was next. This machine has 2 GiB of main memory and almost never uses the swap partition, so I put swap at the slow end of the drive. Yes I have swap on slice 10. I use NetBSD's fdisk, as it handles more than 4 slices nicely, unlike FreeBSD's fdisk. As far as I know, the BIOS firmware doesn't need to know about swap. I think the BIOS firmware just loads and runs the MBR, which in turn loads and runs the bootstrap in the selected slice (or loads and runs the MBR in a different disk if you want). I suppose I could put a BSD disklabel on slice 10 and set it up with the whole slice as the b partition. But as far as I can tell FreeBSD is happy with /dev/ad6s10. As I wrote in my previous message I suspect that the pager/swaper is competing for disk i/o. I forgot to ask if there is some sysctl or other knob to lengthen the timeout. The real fix is to improve the i/o fairness, but I've been asking about this for 2-3 years and not getting anywhere. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 05:16:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1435510656D8 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF2F8FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:16:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0P5GbHF022685; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:16:38 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:16:37 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Sebastian Mellmann In-Reply-To: <20090122120027.4E186106570D@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20090125153358.X90458@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090122120027.4E186106570D@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW DUMMYNET: Several pipes after each other X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:16:41 -0000 On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:10:09 +0100 (CET) Sebastian Mellmann wrote: > I'm using FreeBSD 7.0 with IPFW DUMMYNET enabled. > > I've got a problem with creating a ruleset which allows me to limit the > overall bandwidth of a link and afterwards pass the packets to another > pipe for processing. > > So far I've got those rules: > > in_if="em0" > out_if="em1" > management_if="em2" > in_ip="100.100.100.1" > out_ip="200.200.200.1" > management_ip="172.16.0.201" > client1_subnet="192.168.5.0/26" > client2_subnet="192.168.6.0/26" > server_subnet="192.168.7.0/24" > > download_bandwidth="6144Kbit/s" > upload_bandwidth="1024Kbit/s" > delay="0" > queue_size="10" 10 slots ie packets is likely too small a queue size at these rates. You want to check the dropped packet stats from 'ipfw pipe show' re that; see the section in ipfw(8) about calculating sizes / delays. On the other hand, depending on how many hosts you're running individual queues for (mask 0xffffffff), you may need to trade with memory used .. > cmd="ipfw" > > $cmd add 10 allow all from any to any via lo0 > > $cmd pipe 100 config mask src-ip 0xffffffff bw $upload_bandwidth queue $queue_size delay $delay > $cmd pipe 200 config mask dst-ip 0xffffffff bw $download_bandwidth queue $queue_size > > $cmd add pipe 100 all from $client1_subnet to $server_subnet in via $in_if > $cmd add pipe 200 all from $server_subnet to $client1_subnet out via $in_if > > $cmd add pipe 100 all from $client2_subnet to $server_subnet in via $in_if > $cmd add pipe 200 all from $server_subnet to $client2_subnet out via $in_if I suggest using 'in recv' and 'out xmit' rather than via for these, for the sake of clarity. 'in recv' and 'in via' come to the same thing, as only the receive interface is known on inbound packets, but 'out via' applies to packets that were *received* on the specified interface as well as those going out on that interface after routing, which can lead to surprising results sometimes, and being more specific never hurts .. > $cmd add 10000 allow all from any to any via $management_if > $cmd add 20000 allow all from any to any via $in_if > $cmd add 30000 allow all from any to any via $out_if > > --- > > What I want to add now, is the possibility to limit the bandwidth of the > whole link, e.g. 100Mbit/s. > > I've tried to add a pipe: > > $cmd pipe 50 config bw 100Mbit/s queue $queue_size > $cmd add pipe 50 all from any to any via $in_if > > But when I have a look at the pipes with 'ipfw show' I can only see > packets go through the pipe 50 and nothing goes through the other pipes > (which makes sense actually since IPFW work that way?). IPFW works that way if you (likely) have net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass=1 .. so that packets exiting from pipes aren't seen by the firewall again. If you set one_pass=0, packets are reinjected into the firewall at the rule following the pipe (or queue) action, which is what you want to do here. And you'll surely need a much larger queue for this pipe, at 100Mbit/s. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 06:21:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D948C1065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:21:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC778FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:21:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl205-109.kln.forthnet.gr [79.103.18.109]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n0P6LUHk009084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:21:36 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P6LUA0056227; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:21:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0P6LTkv056226; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:21:29 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Polytropon References: <20090125021111.90661db0.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:21:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20090125021111.90661db0.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:11 +0100") Message-ID: <874ozndhxy.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: n0P6LUHk009084 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.971, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.43, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Comfortable dd bs= parameters for different media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:21:53 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:11:11 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to ask which sizes are comfortable to use for reading > from different media using the dd utility. As far as I know, > these are good values: > > Format Device (example) bs= > ------------- --------------------- ---- > Data CD /dev/acd0 2048 > Music CD /dev/acd0t01 2352 > DVD /dev/acd0 2048 (?) > Hard disk /dev/ad0s1g 1m (?) AFAICT these are fine. > What about copying partition-wise from a hard disk to a dd file? > Which bs= parameter would be encouraged to use? Presumably the destination file will also be on hard disk (or USB flash, or SSD). It may be ok to use 1m then :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 07:23:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CB5106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:23:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1348FC13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LQzLL-0004sL-DF; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:23:44 +1100 From: Warren Liddell Organization: Blackthorn PTY LTD To: Polytropon Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:23:35 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.4 (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE; KDE/4.1.4; amd64; ; ) References: <497BCA46.9090609@maydias.com> <20090125032659.8628aa88.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125032659.8628aa88.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251723.35817.shinjii@maydias.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error trying to burncd thhen ecomign unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:23:46 -0000 > % camcontrol devlist Typed this but no output what so ever, which presumably isnt a good thing. > > and adjust the dev= parameter accordingly. > > For a DVD, try > > % growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=neroultraV7.iso enterprise# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0=neroultraV7.iso :-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0: Inappropriate ioctl for device Something aint right obviously. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 07:37:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F332106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFA18FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n0P7bDVm041320 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:37:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n0P7bD4i041305; Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:37:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA14659; Sat, 24 Jan 09 23:26:07 PST Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:27:49 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd@edvax.de Message-Id: <497c1475.t8s7v36OXh6ZhsFH%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20090125021111.90661db0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125021111.90661db0.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Comfortable dd bs= parameters for different media X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:37:41 -0000 > I'd like to ask which sizes are comfortable to use for reading > from different media using the dd utility ... In case anyone still cares, I have long used bs=120b for floppy disks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 08:29:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FCC1065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57648FC1D for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:29:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P8SHDn099325; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:28:28 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n0P8SHDn099325 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1232872108; bh=ISLAUVKMNcdGMtFzlfZo3zRkFKFYgA9B+mXuVcrvxl4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<497C2299.4000905@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2025=20Jan=202009=2008:28:09=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.19=20(X11/20090111)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20EA=20EA=20|CC:=20questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20X=20panics=20on=20xorg=207.4|Refe rences:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20mult ipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"appli cation/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig8469D B073E76E41A9624C0DF"; b=Z22ICkaHHf+Vzv41wAvsvevXwdQNSQhVLG5kBBsJhH3urAtRE1sMFzp++hxglves1 kAo5ccnC4iIRSHv3vppWPb65d+67haceWTCJxqex6VCCZsitTqAWxU02F6yB4dcyJ9 bCACiSkn+UZwOzd/EIwdqEFIpg4WcXzo+l64yRR0= Message-ID: <497C2299.4000905@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:28:09 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: EA EA References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8469DB073E76E41A9624C0DF" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:28:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/8900/Sun Jan 25 02:40:27 2009 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X panics on xorg 7.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8469DB073E76E41A9624C0DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EA EA wrote: > I just upgraded X and when I started X with a fresh config. > When X starts I see the normal no-wm-yet screen with an unmovable mouse= =2E > When I press ctrl+alt+spc I hear 3 beeps followed by a black screen. > I tried x11/nvidia-driver and x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv. >=20 > What should I be trying to fix it? What information do you (I?) need t= o > debug? Please read the first 20090123 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig8469DB073E76E41A9624C0DF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkl8IqEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwEdwCdHcJCMA08eyLlzr8cS3uF84aK P7wAnjiCcdzTCg974wpgoacf/MYqnM5a =aLhK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8469DB073E76E41A9624C0DF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 08:30:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E6010656F3 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CCA8FC1A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45B916C0028; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0P8U8dv007936; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:08 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Warren Liddell Message-Id: <20090125093008.f1c4c707.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200901251723.35817.shinjii@maydias.com> References: <497BCA46.9090609@maydias.com> <20090125032659.8628aa88.freebsd@edvax.de> <200901251723.35817.shinjii@maydias.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error trying to burncd thhen ecomign unkillable process X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:17 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:23:35 +1000, Warren Liddell wrote: > > % camcontrol devlist > > Typed this but no output what so ever, which presumably isnt a good thing. If you have ATAPI devices, you need to have the ATAPICAM facility loaded, either by # kldload /boot/kernel/atapicam.ko or by compiling it into your kernel. If you don't have the proper permissions, access to ATAPICAM won't work. Access to cd, pass and xpt is needed (rules to be setup in /etc/devfs.conf), or simply call the command as root or via sudo. > enterprise# growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/acd0=neroultraV7.iso > :-( unable to CAMGETPASSTHRU for /dev/acd0: Inappropriate ioctl for device > > Something aint right obviously. Obviously. You need to specify an ATAPICAM device, /dev/cd0 for example. If you want to use /dev/dvd like in the example on growisofs's manpage, you need to change the symlink in /etc/devfs.conf: link cd0 dvd The symlink usually points to acd0 which isn't ATAPICAM compatible. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 08:31:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D79B106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:31:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39E38FC17 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P8Ux2M001879; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:59 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n0P8Ux2M001879 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1232872259; bh=RpQNcN7T+xobs/SxOs2JD1JA5+hVpNjiYpuhWWjSIhY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<497C2343.1080504@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2025=20Jan=202009=2008:30:59=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.19=20(X11/20090111)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20EA=20EA=20|CC:=20questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20X=20panics=20on=20xorg=207.4|Refe rences:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20mult ipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"appli cation/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigE5151 D7352C67218A6576EC5"; b=TuQZ4nCBjdwDFZ95bg9MIrGFAjcRJIr127YMpIGY473QzcYXB4R8nNiG1D4nAYdX0 mdIZMNG7gVCiPsOpm09p6km0Bo4UAkYt7rgzeG9tgvAKms5VDRi8ywZTX0zm/X8htE mrZA/v5vRm2eRsKFVd63nBvrH6UEfnA52I+3qCa8= Message-ID: <497C2343.1080504@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:59 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: EA EA References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE5151D7352C67218A6576EC5" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:30:59 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X panics on xorg 7.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:31:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE5151D7352C67218A6576EC5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EA EA wrote: > I just upgraded X and when I started X with a fresh config. > When X starts I see the normal no-wm-yet screen with an unmovable mouse= =2E > When I press ctrl+alt+spc I hear 3 beeps followed by a black screen. > I tried x11/nvidia-driver and x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv. >=20 > What should I be trying to fix it? What information do you (I?) need t= o > debug? Please read the first 20090123 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigE5151D7352C67218A6576EC5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkl8I0MACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxqBQCcDZ6U+rXX2FzkR+SNAPSshKdk enEAoI9QfrQaPYFiXK7j/2iWVIUVuVkA =XvIn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE5151D7352C67218A6576EC5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 08:49:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B850106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:49:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D028FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P8musp060135; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:48:57 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.1 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n0P8musp060135 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1232873337; bh=WrnTfjtP9tAdBwLYKHipyibUahoy0Tzdavc1668KJus=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<497C2770.9020600@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2025=20Jan=202009=2008:48:48=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.19=20(X11/20090111)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Ajtim=20Civolvap=20|CC:=20freeb sd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20portupgrade|References:= 20<200901242116.55335.lumiwa@gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<2009012421 16.55335.lumiwa@gmail.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Ty pe:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protoco l=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"----------- -enigFB2199779936E08CE2149A8F"; b=VcVjFMO1oEFBA+A1QK9/n6ivau0qsrFb8QIRHoMotGxNbDAJgO7gASG5d5896/GaU NG0VbRXiXyFAXOFbc+MX9p/971dUCD29S5LupN8yrOopOBizMMgz5GY0uRwLmqBBuO 8spd+lgtshyuuQXhaCUq2znkGxFmyV/tgeiWnhAY= Message-ID: <497C2770.9020600@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:48:48 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ajtim Civolvap References: <200901242116.55335.lumiwa@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200901242116.55335.lumiwa@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFB2199779936E08CE2149A8F" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:48:57 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:49:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFB2199779936E08CE2149A8F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ajtim Civolvap wrote: > Hi! >=20 > My system 7.1. > I am (was) user of postmaster but the last update for Xorg it did mess.= Than I=20 > use portupgrade -arR and was okay, X works okay but when I run: >=20 > portupgrade -arR > ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga: > is marked as broken: Needs to be removed > ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-drivers/xf86-video-via: > requires pciVideoPtr typedef > ** Port directory not found: x11/xorg-protos > ** Port directory not found: x11/xphelloworld > ---> Skipping 'x11/xorg-apps' (xorg-apps-7.3) because a requisite=20 > package 'xphelloworld-1.0.1_1' (x11/xphelloworld) failed (specify -k to= =20 > force) > ---> Skipping 'x11-drivers/xorg-drivers' (xorg-drivers-7.3_3) because = a=20 > requisite package 'xf86-video-via-0.2.2_3' (x11-drivers/xf86-video-via)= =20 > failed (specify -k to force) > ---> Skipping 'x11/xorg' (xorg-7.3_2) because a requisite=20 > package 'xorg-apps-7.3' (x11/xorg-apps) failed (specify -k to force) > ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > - x11-drivers/xf86-video-vga (marked as IGNORE) > - x11-drivers/xf86-video-via (marked as IGNORE) > - x11/xorg-protos (port directory error) > - x11/xphelloworld (port directory error) > * x11/xorg-apps (xorg-apps-7.3) > * x11-drivers/xorg-drivers (xorg-drivers-7.3_3) > * x11/xorg (xorg-7.3_2) >=20 > I understand for VGA or VIA port but how can correct the other, please?= If you don't need vga or via drivers, do this: # cd /usr/ports/x11-drivers/xorg-drivers # make config (select keyboard, mouse and *only* what video drivers you need on your= H/W) Then delete the offending driver packages: pkg_delete -f xf86-video-via-\* xf86-video-vga-\* Note: you may well have several other extraneous video driver packages installed. They can be deleted in the same way. If you do need one of those drivers, then don't upgrade your X windows ju= st yet. There will be more updates coming out over time, no doubt. You cou= ld ask on the freebsd-x11@... list about what is happening in that regard. x11/xorg-protos and x11/xphelloworld have been removed -- just delete what you have installed: # pkg_delete -f xphelloworld-1.0.1_1 xorg-protos-\* Now fix up the dependency linkages in your package database: # pkgdb -F and then proceed with the upgrade as before: # portupgrade -a Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigFB2199779936E08CE2149A8F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkl8J3gACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxAjgCePr0NPTkXUFYGILznqfu+YqmV 3usAn13aRAZhlSfkyqWe8vIdVs8LeDEN =6VO0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFB2199779936E08CE2149A8F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 08:54:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F837106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from pecan2.exetel.com.au (pecan2.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1713E8FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=enterprise.blackthorn.nu) by pecan2.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LR0lB-0005c4-37 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:54:31 +1100 From: Warren Liddell Organization: Blackthorn PTY LTD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:54:22 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.4 (FreeBSD/7.1-STABLE; KDE/4.1.4; amd64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251854.22352.shinjii@maydias.com> Subject: dummies version of dummies to setup printers in freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:54:33 -0000 i have a cannon pixma ip1000 and i have tried various ways to set it up so i can print using methods found through google, but so far nothing has had success, so id like to know if there is an idiots guide to the dummies version of trying to setup a printer to work cause im in desperate need of step by step instructions to get it goin. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:03:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4D31065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE708FC1C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P93GjX043753; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:03:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0P93ETT043750; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:03:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:03:14 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090125025346.3c67b14b.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20090125100303.Q43743@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <20090123170407.A38136@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20090125000258.GB31215@thought.org> <20090125025346.3c67b14b.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:03:48 -0000 > > I think the ISO-9660 + RockRidge is the most comfortable way for > what you intend - allthough the tar method (or even the UFS method) > won't be any problem here. But as I said, maximum compatibility is > always welcome for backups. well not always. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:05:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745821065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3DB8FC24 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P95Ek6043770; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:05:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0P95Cxl043767; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:05:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:05:12 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> Message-ID: <20090125100344.V43743@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: tajudd@gmail.com, perryh@pluto.rain.com, Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:05:45 -0000 > cdr.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CDROM > 642848 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 657922048 Jan 24 15:34 cdr.iso > > what is the safest command to use to burn to 1. a CD, and 2. a > DVD? Since `file' says that cdr.iso is a filesystem, I'm if it ISO9660 filesystem image. you may check it before writing this way mdconfig -a -o readonly -t vnode -f cdr.iso mount_cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt then after checking umount /mnt mdconfig -d -u 0 (assumed you don't use other md devices that moment, if so, device number will not be md0) > assuming that I don't need to grow or newfs anything on the disc. cdrtools for CD dvd+rw-tools for DVD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:07:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010881065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469138FC1F for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0P96mDH043785; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:06:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0P96mp3043782; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:06:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:06:48 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090125031843.51f47ee3.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20090125100638.W43743@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> <20090125031843.51f47ee3.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: tajudd@gmail.com, Gary Kline , perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:07:18 -0000 > > I know this is *very* lazy stuff, but it works, and I never change > a running system. :-) which is always a good thing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:11:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18D4106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC0E8FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2197795ywe.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:11:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=R/zTYhn9aeLFcyfMV+YNr8MC9jBe04q+lt4D0aGnY7M=; b=gjm4K+xjjIaqIdd4sMKve0GVzWXaQ5BubVY7/4kbw9dKZTfbqo06d8J38QM7PpPuF3 I8RAFZQjgWYHU7/0bgtZtWOK2JxjgRsx98vhV6L5TU8JuUWoIk9Ml5zS/ddYeLeYwVx0 oTlHge3RDhWQQzCOQgaoCJ31MARRZ2tJoJzs4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MouG6TlBSjvrLW3NSVgYa4eKpHuYNz0iWZFFS52CGiSN6O2ecE3QvHcOV9H2ihghnm f8f4Sed0DeKk1rvlee5Gg3qUPqRfIZVrrhglJo7NKAw+5bgEWbw2hhBU+dWVD009lY4G 9dzBnbk7pZi+F5DOLMDWlfQc1q4y7UOyIlPNw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.17.11 with SMTP id q11mr625840iba.8.1232874685901; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:11:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200901251854.22352.shinjii@maydias.com> References: <200901251854.22352.shinjii@maydias.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: Warren Liddell , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: dummies version of dummies to setup printers in freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:11:27 -0000 This may or may not be suitable for your situation but this is how I generally set printers up: 1. Install print/cups (yes the full wrapper port) 2. Edit your /etc/make.conf by adding a line that says no LPR 3. Add CUPS_ENABLE="YES" to your /etc/rc.conf 4. Manually start cups (run "cupsd" as root) 5. Point your web browser to http://localhost:631 6. Click on adminstration-->Add Printer 7. Enter what ever you want on the first screen 8. (This step will vary based on how your printer is connected... in this case I assume it is networked like mine is) if your printer is a standard network printer CUPS should find it automatically if it doesn't otherwise socket://[IP] where IP is the IP of the printer (you will have to search the web perhaps for non-network printers) 9. Enter the type of printer it is off the menu (cannon is not limited so you will need to search for the right PPD file) 10. Click on add-printer 11. The user name and password is the user name and password for any account on the machine (I have never tested anything but root or my personal account) 12. Print a test page if everything has gone well proceed if not try to figure out what you missed 13. Click on printers and set the new printer to be your default printer 14. Since by default the base system installs lpd when it is installed you need to deinstall it the easiest way to do this as root do: rm /usr/bin/lp* /usr/sbin/lp* 15. If everything has gone well up to now try to print from the command line with something like "lpr /etc/passwd" 16. If step 15 worked reboot and try to print again 17. (only if you have a desktop manager or other GUI stuff installed) Make sure that all your commonly used GUI applications can print 18. Your done (well almost) 19. (optional) if you do a lot of command line printing you may want to install a pritty print program like print/enscript-letter and alias it to lpr in your .cshrc or the equiv 20. Now your done On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Warren Liddell wrote: > i have a cannon pixma ip1000 and i have tried various ways to set it up so i > can print using methods found through google, but so far nothing has had > success, so id like to know if there is an idiots guide to the dummies version > of trying to setup a printer to work cause im in desperate need of step by > step instructions to get it goin. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:19:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915C21065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB18F8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so352352ewy.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:19:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ypfZP2Xh8So+c5XFAOnl2yLpvmM6swm9Y3fPhcenG9w=; b=jO3EtvNFrB35OCs4MWrYVCb9xUtgGafrk/yBNu0De9afpqJQ8lgm+l4Fy9VAPdWaLB jjzRJX6LnvpZfMvIDiIhGpYWenstMR0/XQmjZz8ukGXTjHkpgcRcNo9hv6UC5UgfD9yX duNInA74vCh3IR3MHq9S+NCtKslr1FfKd9HDw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uX2wP+R2k8YOVNs+A1YTvPLc/1r8ONYyEqmO0mOHGz8byH8L684GaWtIdarYm/qDyE usktzqjionDQ20iIZ/vkeY6TbpfciyFiyu1EiTe4Do5aNU43/mDhkV0gmgMsfnQBhpwv Kav97mh8qC7sW1fMDZheXPwtPbtWaw/Wpldrw= Received: by 10.210.69.6 with SMTP id r6mr1485518eba.134.1232875174387; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:19:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-421877.home.otenet.gr [79.131.199.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm3649647eyg.52.2009.01.25.01.19.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:19:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497C2EA4.2060701@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:19:32 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Liddell References: <200901251854.22352.shinjii@maydias.com> In-Reply-To: <200901251854.22352.shinjii@maydias.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dummies version of dummies to setup printers in freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:19:36 -0000 Warren Liddell wrote: > i have a cannon pixma ip1000 and i have tried various ways to set it up so i > can print using methods found through google, but so far nothing has had > success, so id like to know if there is an idiots guide to the dummies version > of trying to setup a printer to work cause im in desperate need of step by > step instructions to get it goin. > AFAIR, this is one of the difficult to get working models in FreeBSD (or linux for that matter). CUPS does not support it directly (it is a 'winprinter'). Canon has a linux driver here: http://software.canon-europe.com/software/0022414.asp?model= and this can probably be adapted (if if contains a PPD for CUPS) but this may not be the easiest task. Other than that, I always found the following wiki entry in desktopbsd.net easy to follow for a successful CUPS setup: http://desktopbsd.net/wiki/doku.php?id=doc:printing From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:29:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1266C1065672 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:29:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7768FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from saifikhan@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so5539473rvf.43 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:29:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Nv9YjuEEYExOdFWyv/q409vp3nimpqfJIBF+nidbJGQ=; b=dSXVFmf5uNotg2Vth8UOxtahrIwy/UgL6v+lKhzx2Qwmw1YKGVAlLFKWVIfxEdTQfg DMeyt6X5l6sIAY1WaCZxwlG9G5FIBGwKMfvY75mQNXKgPY62zACtK9SwzwxS1OvkTG/c 19TyZs1qzzFCy2lMByr1IUxuBf+kfN0NhNa/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=T9POr+a/cvHODrf1PIrFm9yOt6zh4X3B6fwwhq1ft3jvGJ79T2hyEWcnXoyLjUoIf5 V/pX8KlBGa8Z1+4up6b7TksR6AnZ2OnDpkwINEVzTSqCHFz4zEfaSgd3R+uZKBpC4SnB Bzy/xj3Dtxj79xno079mUWvs7LW8CGW1un3Qs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: saifikhan@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.170.12 with SMTP id s12mr1880069rve.38.1232875785685; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:29:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:29:45 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6e4086830bdd6c5d Message-ID: <9a52b1190901250129j55affbedv87374b0a91e55539@mail.gmail.com> From: Saifi Khan To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Pine4.64 installation on FreeBSD 7.1 (i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:29:46 -0000 Hi: [note: i'm aware about Alpine in ports and am keen to install and use only Pine]. i'm trying to build Pine 4.64 from the sources downloaded from Univ of Wash site. For SSL support, i have installed OpenSSL 0.9.8j from ports. Here is the standard command run at the top of the pine source tree. ./build 'SSLCERTS=/etc/ssl' \ 'SSLINCLUDE=/usr/local/include/openssl' \ 'SSLLIB=/usr/local/lib' \ bsf The first error reported right in the beginning is "File /etc/ssl/factory.pem is missing This might indicate that CA certs did not get properly installed. If you get certificate validation failures in Pine, this might be the reason for them." On reviewing the OpenSSL code base, there is no factory.pem or a bunch of CA certs. Two questions: 1. what is the purpose of factory.pem ? 2. where do i get the bunch of CA certs ? Thanks in advance for helping me out, as i try to learn more about FreeBSD approach of doing the things. i've been a Gentoo user mostly. -- thanks Saifi. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:30:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EAD2106567C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from dhcp-172-28-77-38.eur.corp.google.com (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DB78FC0A; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <497C312E.6050802@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:22 +0000 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dieter References: <200901241706.RAA07150@sopwith.solgatos.com> In-Reply-To: <200901241706.RAA07150@sopwith.solgatos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:30:24 -0000 Dieter wrote: >>> AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory >>> >>> My console says: >>> >>> login: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >>> >>> pstat -sk >>> Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity >>> /dev/ad6s10 4590208 96 4590112 0% >>> >>> Wow, using a whole 96K of swap. I don't see any disk related >>> complaints in dmesg. >>> >>> Is this something to worry about? >> Yes, the system was *trying* to do swap I/O and timing out while doing so. >> >> Kris > > Whoops, I forgot to change the subject line after adding the k option > to pstat. Without the k it said 0 used. And this morning it occurs to > me that even if swap used was zero, it could have been trying to *start* > using swap. > > Anyway... given this timeout explaination, I'm guessing that page/swap > has to compete with user processes for disk i/o, and thus probably > suffers from the same lack of fair i/o scheduling that user processes > suffer from. E.g. one process doing disk i/o can lock out another > process for at least several minutes, probably indefinitely. :-( There is a timeout of (from memory) 60 seconds. I've not seen this timeout exceeded on properly functioning disk hardware (even heavily loaded), only on broken hardware/controllers, or on I/O devices that are intrinsically slow for some reason (USB stick, or swapping to a file). Unless you're doing something truly unspeakable to that disk's load, I'd look at the hardware. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 09:41:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55AD0106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from lrelay01.edpnet.net (lrelay01.edpnet.net [212.71.1.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9E28FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beni@brinckman.info) Received: from bsdaddict.localnet (213.219.161.65.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net [213.219.161.65]) by lrelay01.edpnet.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0P9fDcO018734 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:41:15 +0100 From: beni To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:41:12 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.3 (FreeBSD/7.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.1.3; i386; ; ) X-Face: $,~&QrDrInYiH(ZUXjNH_0r4q\`w83!}&; +8c.K[`NnZwV|m$5N{NCkWesaR.9|yqIC[< =?utf-8?q?d=0A=09P0?="xTw:F|)_r*WC\f8lz)g=a; 93dz2mP7iv)LLzBd; 6^Y:=*>@U; _\+4( MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200901251041.12678.beni@brinckman.info> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.92.1/8900/Sun Jan 25 03:40:27 2009 on lrelay01.edpnet.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on lrelay01.edpnet.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Starting privoxy+ipv6 at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: beni@brinckman.info List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:41:18 -0000 Hi List, I installed www/privoxy+ipv6, the patched privoxy for ipv6. It installs fine but I have to start it everytime manually at boot. I added this to /etc/rc.conf : privoxy_enable="YES" privoxy_flags="/usr/local/etc/privoxy/config" Since there is no startup script provided, I copied the one (privoxy.in) from www/privoxy/files to my /usr/local/etc/rc.d : root@bsdaddict# ls -l /usr/local/etc/rc.d/privoxy* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1497 20 jan 21:41 /usr/local/etc/rc.d/privoxy root@bsdaddict# I tried renaming it to "privoxy.sh" and "privoxy" (without any extension) but nothing seems to work. All I get is this error message in dmesg : root@bsdaddict# dmesg -a | grep privoxy /etc/rc: WARNING: run_rc_command: cannot run %%PREFIX%%/sbin/privoxy root@bsdaddict# Starting privoxy manually is no problem, everything works as it should. So how do I launch privoxy at boot ? Thanks for any help. Beni Brinckman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 11:25:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF5C106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.82.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887218FC1E for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from localhost (zz217-113-115-181.tlt.ru [217.113.115.181]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B9055A8B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:15:26 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:25:17 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090125112517.GA33731@screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L (~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: jail devfs openpty X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:25:20 -0000 Hello, I am doing the portupgrade inside my jail. I see that script(1) have no permission on openpty. I deleted all the devfs rules on tha jail's /dev both by hand and by deleting the ruleset string in master's rc.conf. So i stopped jail and mounted devfs by hand. Started jail. It appears to work, the portupgrade. I suppose that if mounted with /etc/rc.d/jail the devfs has some tweak that makes it different from mounted by hand. 73! Peter -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 11:35:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F31106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.82.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6048FC23 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from localhost (zz217-113-115-181.tlt.ru [217.113.115.181]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693F15A8B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:25:25 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:35:16 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090125113516.GB33731@screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L (~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: jail init, but another question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:35:17 -0000 Hello, I always try to set up the devfs ruleset in rc.conf. So my question is about this in /etc/defaults/rc.conf: === #jail_example_devfs_ruleset="ruleset_name" # devfs ruleset to apply to jail === It appears not to work in /etc/rc.conf without this rc.subr patch: === $ diff -u /etc/rc.subr /usr/src/etc/rc.subr --- /etc/rc.subr 2008-07-20 19:26:20.000000000 +0500 +++ /usr/src/etc/rc.subr 2008-05-12 12:29:03.000000000 +0500 @@ -1242,7 +1242,7 @@ devfs_set_ruleset() { local devdir rs _me - [ -n "$1" ] && eval rs=\$1 || rs= + [ -n "$1" ] && eval rs=\$$1 || rs= [ -n "$2" ] && devdir="-m "$2"" || devdir= _me="devfs_set_ruleset" === And, by far the "ruleset_name" does not work in favour of ruleset number. But I remember it did work on freebsd-5.4. 73! Peter -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 12:01:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D89310656C9 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:01:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [67.227.142.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1BB8FC1B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:01:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mail.fxclub.org ([78.129.148.74]) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LR3N5-000Iwy-5q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:41:47 +0000 Received: from [83.167.118.179] (helo=[192.168.0.10]) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LR3N4-000KaR-5S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:41:46 +0000 Message-ID: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:41:40 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:02:00 -0000 Hello all. I search some guides - how to install FreeBSD on 10+ hosts at once. As I understand right - it is some thing about PXE and some install.cfg. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 12:44:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B96106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (mp.cs.niu.edu [131.156.145.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE0C8FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bennett@cs.niu.edu) Received: from mp.cs.niu.edu (bennett@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mp.cs.niu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PBkB9V012247; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:46:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:46:10 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Bennett Message-Id: <200901251146.n0PBkAQf012246@mp.cs.niu.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Dieter Cc: Subject: Re: swap_pager complaints but not using swap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:44:22 -0000 On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:48:39 +0000 Dieter wrote: >> >> AMD64 FreeBSD 7.0 2 GiB main memory >> >> >> >> My console says: >> >> >> >> login: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, >> >> size: 4096 >> >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >> >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >> >> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 22, size: 4096 >> >> >> >> pstat -sk >> >> Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity >> >> /dev/ad6s10 4590208 96 4590112 0% >> >> >> >> Wow, using a whole 96K of swap. I don't see any disk related >> >> complaints in dmesg. >> >> >> >> Is this something to worry about? >> > >> > Yes, the system was *trying* to do swap I/O and timing out while doing >> > so. > >> isn't swapspace supposed to be on a 'b' partition? Are you using swap >> on a slice 10? how is that possible when the i386/amd64 BIOS can't see >> more than 4 primary partitions? >> >> Kris, would you mind giving input to this? How can there be a s10, and >> how can you add swapspace to a device that isn't a partition 'b' nor a >> file backed swapspace? Those were the only two ways I thought was >> supported for swap. >> >> Dieter, does my questions above sound to be a correct interpretation of >> your disk setup? > >Traditionally swap used the b partition. But then traditionally, there Even then, however, the swapdev line in the kernel config file made it possible to change it and to add additional partitions of equal size on other drives. >weren't MBR style partitions, called "slices" in FreeBSD-land. > >I suspect that the computers Unix grew up on (PDP-7, PDP-11, VAX) had >to boot from the beginning of the disk, so the a partition went there. >The Alpha continues in this DEC tradition. I was about to say that >swap went next for speed, since the machines back then never had enough >main memory, but those old disks didn't have variable number of sectors >on inner vs outer tracks, so the speed would have been the same across >the platter. So I'm not sure why swap was next. Speed was indeed the reason. Swapping in UNIX dates further back than virtual memory support. Swapping made it possible to have more process memory allocated than was available in real memory, but it was necessary to swap out an entire process to swap in a process whose memory was located at the same addresses as the one forced out. That didn't necessarily mean writing all of the first process's memory out, just enough to make room for the one coming in. The downside, of course, was that anything *not* written to the swap area was vulnerable to damage by other processes unless some sort of storage protection mechanism was available in the hardware a la System/360 storage protection. Of course, the same risk applied to any other processes in memory (i.e., not swapped out already) at the time, too. Swap in 3BSD (the first VM UNIX system) and 4BSD was active for another purpose, too. Large memory moves/copies on those old machines could actually be *slower* than writing to a disk and then reading the data back in at the target memory location. (Yes, speechless horror is the correct reaction here.:-) /usr was typically placed right after the swap area (i.e., partition d). The idea was that / and /usr would be the most heavily accessed file systems, so it made sense to have them surrounding the swap area to minimize head movement distances and delays. On systems with more than one disk drive that did a lot of compiling, sorting, editing, or anything else with much activity in /tmp, it was especially helpful to move /tmp to a separate drive from / and /usr. The manual used to give suggested partition configurations for two- and three-drive systems for optimum speed. > >This machine has 2 GiB of main memory and almost never uses the swap >partition, so I put swap at the slow end of the drive. Yes I have >swap on slice 10. I use NetBSD's fdisk, as it handles more than >4 slices nicely, unlike FreeBSD's fdisk. As far as I know, the BIOS So NetBSD's fdisk understands logical partitions in an extended partition? Cool. I wish we had it in FreeBSD. It's really a pain to have to shut FreeBSD down and boot a standalone program to change the layout of a disk that has an EP. :-( At least the FreeBSD kernel has no problem understanding a disk like that. >firmware doesn't need to know about swap. I think the BIOS firmware >just loads and runs the MBR, which in turn loads and runs the bootstrap >in the selected slice (or loads and runs the MBR in a different disk if >you want). > >I suppose I could put a BSD disklabel on slice 10 and set it up >with the whole slice as the b partition. But as far as I can tell >FreeBSD is happy with /dev/ad6s10. As I wrote in my previous It should be. >message I suspect that the pager/swaper is competing for disk i/o. >I forgot to ask if there is some sysctl or other knob to lengthen >the timeout. The real fix is to improve the i/o fairness, but I've >been asking about this for 2-3 years and not getting anywhere. > BSD UNIX introduced the disksort() routine into its kernel ages ago. I know it was in 4.2BSD, but it may well have been there long before then. disksort() was added to satisfy a maximum number of disk I/O requests with a minimum of head movement and delay. Basically, it sorts new requests into queues for each drive such that the arm moves from request to request in one direction through the disk, and then the next queue started is sorted into the opposite sequence for the arm to move in the opposite direction. The result is that the arm moves back and forth from the start to the end of the disk and then back again, reading and writing as it goes, thus minimizing the distance traveled for each request handled. In FreeBSD, I think there is also some sort of change to the algorithm that tends to subprioritize or subdivide requests according to the amount of data to be read/written in each request, but I don't know any of its details. In general, disksort() gives pretty good performance. I doubt that the current algorithm is the source of your problems, but if it is, then perhaps moving swap to sit between the two most active file systems on that drive could help. You may wish to look carefully at the disk I/O system in FreeBSD to see whether your idea of "fairness" could be implemented without running afoul of the existing code structure and also to get an idea as to whether what you want done would really be likely to yield any performance improvement. Scott Bennett, Comm. 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John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:42:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F51106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDBD8FC19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PDfl6F044202 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:41:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PDflD2044199 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:41:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:41:47 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> Message-ID: <20090125144031.X44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:03 -0000 > > I search some guides - how to install FreeBSD on 10+ hosts at once. > As I understand right - it is some thing about PXE and some install.cfg. no. just make PXE able to boot ANY FreeBSD install (single user is enough, or boot from CD/DVD) and then copy all files from one host to another. then just change configs (like hostname and IP in your rc.conf) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:42:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF331065675 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CBF8FC16 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PDgFAU044209 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:42:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PDgFUj044206 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:42:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:42:15 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> Message-ID: <20090125144150.N44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:28 -0000 > Hello all. > > I search some guides - how to install FreeBSD on 10+ hosts at once. > As I understand right - it is some thing about PXE and some install.cfg. forgot - you have to of course make disklabel, newfs and make disk bootable (bsdlabel -B disk) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:43:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6109310656BC for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A021D8FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:43:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PDhLt7044221; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:43:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PDhLmo044218; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:43:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:43:21 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: beni In-Reply-To: <200901251041.12678.beni@brinckman.info> Message-ID: <20090125144245.M44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200901251041.12678.beni@brinckman.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Starting privoxy+ipv6 at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:43:37 -0000 > > I tried renaming it to "privoxy.sh" and "privoxy" (without any extension) but > nothing seems to work. All I get is this error message in dmesg : > root@bsdaddict# dmesg -a | grep privoxy > /etc/rc: WARNING: run_rc_command: cannot run %%PREFIX%%/sbin/privoxy > root@bsdaddict# > please do sent-pr for ports. it's bug in port system IMHO, %%PREFIX%% wasn't replaced at build time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:50:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1217C106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mx.fxclub.org (mx.fxclub.org [67.227.142.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CFC8FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from proskurin-kv@fxclub.org) Received: from mail.fxclub.org ([78.129.148.74]) by mx.fxclub.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LR5NZ-000NcU-Eu; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:50:25 +0000 Received: from [83.167.118.179] (helo=[192.168.0.10]) by mail.fxclub.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LR5NX-0004mN-V5; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:50:24 +0000 Message-ID: <497C6E17.9050801@fxclub.org> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:50:15 +0300 From: Proskurin Kirill User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> <20090125144150.N44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20090125144150.N44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:50:31 -0000 Wojciech Puchar пишет: >> Hello all. >> >> I search some guides - how to install FreeBSD on 10+ hosts at once. >> As I understand right - it is some thing about PXE and some install.cfg. > > forgot - you have to of course make disklabel, newfs and make disk > bootable (bsdlabel -B disk) > Well - and if need just to power on server and say it to boot at PXE and go away for 30 min. And then I came back - I have a typical preconfigured server. I need full automatisation. -- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:51:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4334A106570D for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D0F8FC1A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so8529964qyk.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:51:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=hhH1vkNGBgEe7kazLa/CxVEpKHq/qIFYBtGSJ95yZ/A=; b=FSf2cL9V4ZvIQHAm/R+14pd4PribW6qD95UE4hCV78KIKb53LCf0Hbg+15cKIM5Cxa oul8e/kQ61z3LYlVYN5pJvexuCcV7DE2juy7A2XSwQY12lvg5e+YBdMCq6PYmyN/lK7w rn8ejbPdHwmFzhwFmiTJa8vkxX14WFLQVTwpQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=USK7kmkaro+h4XT5VRz7NHYENrMeHHzK54faYiISmnfgazrbNg00fJEOGJkZzOONHG E3OfmJKCqWbOw9u15M1+okQm2eiyMP8HeqO6UB3fbFo1GEDXuHkR7jI1FANwLt+ZOdZT lIuflkVROArTL+Wf53Kgu1cL3iHjUJNeIAg+g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.214.10.3 with SMTP id 3mr1295025qaj.6.1232891485328; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:51:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:51:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: EA EA To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Starting X with xf86-video-vesa X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:51:26 -0000 In my third attempt to get any form of a working X server I tried the xf86-video-vesa driver. (x11/nvidia-driver fails, x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv fails) I get the following error message: failed to set mtrr: Invalid argument In Xorg.log I have the following line at the end" (==) VESA(0): Write combining range (0x0,0x1000) was already clear From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:54:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F4D106568A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FDF8FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PDrroP044259; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PDrpoW044256; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:51 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: <20090125144428.B44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090123191547.fd43d651.ejcerejo@optonline.net> <20090125022647.6b379fed.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Eduardo Cerejo , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE: What a monster! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:54:23 -0000 > > Without wanting to start an endless discussion, I may say that I've > recognized the tendency to slow down programs in UNIX world such as > it is always described in "Windows" land: As soon as you get a new > OS or new programs, everything runs slower than before. In order to > keep the "overall usage speed", you need to have more hardware power. fortunately it's only tendency to "trendy" software like KDE. not for all unix software. and definitely NOT for FreeBSD OS inself, that gets same or faster every release on THE SAME machine! it's not unix problem. it's problem of people that like to have their unix be "like windows" so it is :) for me it's not a problem at all! > > I'm running a P4 2GHz for more than 4 years now happily (I think), > but when I needed to build a new software installation due to a > data fallout in July 2008, I found everything running slower. what exactly software you rebuild and found slower (except KDE/Gnome bloatware) ? > THIS TO ALL FreeBSD DEVELOPERS: NOT YOUR FAULT! Every release of > FreeBSD brought a higher bootup speed to my system, faster system > services and better performance. INDEED. contrary to linux that it's mostly faster in artifical tests, slower on everything else. contrary to NetBSD, (no idea about openbsd), not mentioning Slowlaris :) that's why i use it! > > But what about these advantages? They've got eaten up by all the > applications installed, their libraries and especially their GUI > toolkits. Nearly every Gtk application has been switched from > Gtk 1 to Gtk 2, including more disk consuming libs and depencencies, > slower program startup and slower reaction. unfortunately you are right. but you can use IMHO firefox with GTK1 > > My "favourite" examples are: > > * Opera, hardly reacting on input while loading a web > page (and no, I don't try to use "Flash" stuff) it's not libraries fault but opera fault IMHO. i see the same! > > * Gimp, loads very slowly, needs seconds (!) to show > the right click menu, needs several seconds to launch > printing dialog what gimp version. mine starts 10 seconds, then works quick. checked with ldd - it uses gtk2 and tons of other libs. are you sure there are no other problems with your system? > > On the other hand, there are "old" programs that seem to profit > from the system's speed gain. That's why I love to use them instead > of their "oversized brothers". so use them as long as you can - as i do. > > Such an "oversized brother" is KDE 4. Don't get me wrong, please. so why do you use it? it's mostly useless even if it would be fast. There is NO USE for it's "GUI", and it's programs are toys, not much usable. use separate programs for spreadsheets, word processors and similar "office" work. > On an up-to-date hardware basis, it's surely a joy to use, fast you are wrong. it's slow on quad core intel with 4GB RAM. i tested it. > and responsive. But if your system isn't from today, you don't > gonna have fun with it. Around me, other users seem to favour > Gnome instead of KDE because they are not willing to update their gnome is slow too. just a little bit less slow ;) my main and only personal computer is IBM Thinkpad T23 laptop with Pentium 3M/1200 and 256MB RAM. without all these bloats it happily runs all i need fast without any swapping. only opera gets slower ;) BTW are there somewhere available older version of opera package? :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 13:58:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB01106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9A38FC1B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PDwAKY044288 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:58:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PDwAUa044285 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:58:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:58:10 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <497C6E17.9050801@fxclub.org> Message-ID: <20090125145732.E44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> <20090125144150.N44198@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <497C6E17.9050801@fxclub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:58:22 -0000 > Well - and if need just to power on server and say it to boot at PXE and go > away for 30 min. > And then I came back - I have a typical preconfigured server. > I need full automatisation. so make simple PXE bootable system and write script to make disklabels, do newfs, install (copy/untar) your system, fix rc.conf and make disk bootable From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 14:16:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EA3106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A33BC8FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Lokadamus@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Jan 2009 13:49:25 -0000 Received: from c155238.adsl.hansenet.de (EHLO [213.39.155.238]) [213.39.155.238] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 25 Jan 2009 14:49:25 +0100 X-Authenticated: #3333826 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+DqUt5yAaDJVC/o/Knp3ehMzvg7akfrfqxXmj4dg 24sz/2qUCEuq+j Message-ID: <497C6DF5.3090009@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:49:41 +0100 From: Lokadamus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> In-Reply-To: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.68 Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:16:08 -0000 Proskurin Kirill wrote: > Hello all. > > I search some guides - how to install FreeBSD on 10+ hosts at once. > As I understand right - it is some thing about PXE and some install.cfg. > Another idea is to make one installation and make an image of it. With clonezilla it will be able to use pxe to install it on many hosts. http://clonezilla.org/ After you install your image, you must, how Wojciech Puchar told you, change ip (or you use dhcp), hostname and other stuff like this. I've not tested clonezilla, but at work i use acronis trueimage to install windows on clients. Greeting From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 14:53:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C95F106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8ECD8FC17 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PErCRv044422; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:53:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PErCUs044419; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:53:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:53:12 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lokadamus In-Reply-To: <497C6DF5.3090009@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20090125155253.J44414@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> <497C6DF5.3090009@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:53:24 -0000 >> > Another idea is to make one installation and make an image of it. > With clonezilla it will be able to use pxe to install it on many hosts. > http://clonezilla.org/ > After you install your image, you must, how Wojciech Puchar told you, change > ip (or you use dhcp), hostname and other stuff like this. > > I've not tested clonezilla, but at work i use acronis trueimage to install > windows on clients. why don't simply use unix tools. for same-sized harddrives simply use dd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 15:07:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EB2106564A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltcddats@nildram.co.uk) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-5-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-5-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9148FC0C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:07:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltcddats@nildram.co.uk) X-Trace: 126242246/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.226.102/None/ltcddats@nildram.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.226.102 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: ltcddats@nildram.co.uk X-MUA: KMail/1.9.10 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEABYIfEk+A+Jm/2dsb2JhbADKXIVL X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,321,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="126242246" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from davids-website.com (HELO www.davids-website.com) ([62.3.226.102]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2009 14:38:25 +0000 Received: from farscape.davids-website.com (farscape.davids-website.com [10.0.0.1]) by www.davids-website.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32B0C791 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:38:22 +0000 (GMT) From: LtCdData Organization: Microsoft-sux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:38:25 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251438.25261.ltcddats@nildram.co.uk> Subject: ghostscript8 fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:07:41 -0000 Hi I am having problems building ghostscript8-8.63 from ports with the below error : multiple definition of `gs_shared_init' ./obj/../soobj/gdevl256.o(.text+0x780): first defined here gmake[1]: *** [bin/../sobin/libgs.so.8.63] Error 1 After some googling about it seems this is an old issue with a conflict between lvga256 and vgalib. The fix seems to be to build it without SVGAlib, but so far I have failed to get it to do. Ill assume I am doing something wrong here as I am not a coder. Any help with how to actually get ghostscript8 to build without SVGAlib would be much appreciated From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 15:47:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EDE106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lawrence.auster@att.net) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C428FC12 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lawrence.auster@att.net) Received: from 2ao1z ([24.195.232.37]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090125151654.KCFY22141.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:16:54 +0000 From: "Lawrence Auster" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:16:54 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: <20090125151654.KCFY22141.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> Subject: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the new President? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lawrence.auster@att.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:47:04 -0000 Why is the President of Israel, the terrorist who just oversaw the Zionist mass murder and maiming of thousands of Palestinians so happy that Obama is President of the USA? by David Duke Read the excerpt from the Israeli News about how President Perez and Israel think that Obama’s becoming U.S. President is great day for Israel. "Israel’s President Shimon Peres ecstatic over the election of Obama" Ronen Medzini Israel News Jan. 21 “Today is a great day not only for the United States of America, but for the entire world,” President Shimon Peres wrote in a letter addressed to Barack Obama on the day of his inauguration as president of the United States. “Obama was elected by the United States, but as a matter of fact, he was chosen by the whole of humankind,” Why is Peres so ecstatic? Why shouldn’t he be, he knows that Obama is completely in the grip of the extremist Jewish Zionists in America, and he knows that the greater Obama’s popularity and idol worship, the more Obama can do for the International Zionist Cause. Any thinking and caring human being who realizes that the Zionist-controlled American foreign policy has been a disaster for the robbed and murdered people of Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq and a catastrophe for the 50,000 American wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as an economic catastrophe for the hardworking Americans who pay trillions to finance these wars for Israel — must wake up the fact that supporting Obama and increasing his popularity will only aid Zionist terrorism, war, and their murder and oppression of the Palestinians. It will also hasten the economic suffering of billions of people around the world as his popularity enables him to more easily aid the Zionist International Bankers steal the wealth of the United States, Europe and the world. Obama is totally in the bloodstained and green ink- stained hands of the Zionists. The hard truth is that the more good will and support Obama has also gives more power to support the Zionist agenda! Mark my words. The Obama Presidency will be disaster for America and for the world. Obama was put into office by the Zionists. His top two cohorts for years have been the radical Jews David Axelrod and Rahm Emmanuel. Both have long records of radical Zionism and have been attack dogs against anyone perceived as having the slightest opposition to Israel. One such victim was Sen. Charles Percy, who both men worked to defeat and destroy because he dared to only be 99 percent rather than 100 percent pro-Israel. Rahm Emmanuel, a dual citizen of Israel who went to fight for Israel, he has a long pedigree of Jewish extremism. His father served in the Irgun Terrorist Gang and he himself is named after an Irgun terrorist. Zionist leaders in Chicago actually call Obama “the first Jewish President” and boast that Jews were key players in Obama’s every step up the ladder to President. from the very earliest days, extremist Jews were the largest contributors to his campaign. In the beginning of his Presidential bid, three Hollywood Jews that constantly make movies about Jewish suffering, but never about the Zionist terrorism and theft against the Palestinian people, Steven Spielberg, David Geffen, and Jeffrey Katzenberg raised 1.2 million for Obama in a single Hollywood party. By the time Obama’s campaign was in full swing, he had huge support from the criminal Zionist International Banking firms such as Goldman Sachs and Lehman brothers. Goldman Sachs was Obama’s biggest single contributor, and his vast war chest came not from American manufacturing firms like GM or even American oil companies, (not one was in his top twenty) it was overwhelmingly dominated by Zionist international bankers, the same ones whose thievery and fraud are giving the world this economic depression. For those looking for meaningful social and political change, do you really think it will come from this man who has already been bought heart, head and soul by the most powerful czars of the international financial establishment and the biggest globalists in the world? I know that many are desperate for change, so desperate that you want to believe anything. But in the face of these facts can’t you see that Obama will be even more dangerous to freedom and justice than even George Bush and his band of Neocons were. What better way to wipe out George Bush’s hated legacy and make the world believe that America has really changed than with the election of Obama. But, all the real Zionist power, Zionist media power, and Zionist financial power in America is still in place, even stronger than ever. Many Americans and others around the world who want to do good are now telling us how wonderful Obama will be as president. What a great change it will be from the old policies. This is because of the Zionist-Controlled media hype, promoting Obama. The fact is that these poor sods are ignorantly helping the radical Zionist agenda in Israel and around the world. Every day that you don’t help expose Obama for the Zionist servant that he actually is, his popularity will be a greater danger to peace and freedom. If the Zionist terrorist Shimon Perez is happy about the coronation of Obama, then why in the hell should you be? –David Duke Source : http://www.davidduke.com/general/7303_7303.html ------------------------------------- You or someone using your email adress is currently subscribed to the Lawrence Auster Newletter. 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ghostscript8 fails to build X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:47:22 -0000 --M9NhX3UHpAaciwkO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:38:25PM +0000, LtCdData wrote: > Hi > I am having problems building ghostscript8-8.63 from ports with the below= =20 > error > : multiple definition of `gs_shared_init' > ./obj/../soobj/gdevl256.o(.text+0x780): first defined here > gmake[1]: *** [bin/../sobin/libgs.so.8.63] Error 1 > > After some googling about it seems this is an old issue with a conflict= =20 > between lvga256 and vgalib. The fix seems to be to build it without SVGAl= ib, =20 > but so far I have failed to get it to do. Ill assume I am doing something= =20 > wrong here as I am not a coder. Any help with how to actually get=20 > ghostscript8 to build without SVGAlib would be much appreciated=20 As root, go to the port directory with 'cd /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8'.= =20 Type 'make config' and disable the two SVGA lib drivers. You can use the PageUp and PageDown keys to scroll through the list of drivers. Disable anything you don't need. Then issue the commands 'make clean', and 'make install clean' to build and install the software. 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Rasat" Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:04:15 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the newPresident? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: anthony.rasat@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:04:22 -0000 Lawrence Auster wrote: >Bla bla bla Ku Klux Klan crap. Why don't you bring your hatred outta here. This is a family-oriented channel. Next time, even when you put OOT label on subject, I still will call it crap. If you name me Jewish lover, well, I'm Asian, that means I'm a chink. But it's Mr. Chink to you, thank you very much. -- Regards, Anthony M. Rasat Manager - Technical, Network and Support Division PT. Jawa Pos National Network Graha Pena Jawa Pos Group Building, 5th floor Jln. Raya Kebayoran Lama 12, Jakarta Selatan 12210 Indonesia.- Phone 02132185562 Phone 081574217035 Fax 02153651465 Web http://www.jpnn.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 16:06:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1397010656C9 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AD68FC1C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:06:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so1431743ele.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:06:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=u5gU11jJsKvZImMjIJluHj94QYYdTg0AQcK8DAFecko=; b=rO2L8id+ZBECOIBy65Da9R7DO5VXH/l/Xj2KEk4a907R5PQlkyCl96XISPD9NiLITJ FFEEL2uKQZY/DWbQ8+UVTlw1gUA+sF1Y1wCpbRUZiJROxs5cZCHCnwpUVWLJTtptDLd/ gPE962eYRoiYCtfkZ3ABFr8KSDF0i/f4mVycc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; b=E+cTUYCoQWy3Syu9Y7hRDsrYUYtpACgi9tGRAizjIr5/afVjh1F6hLz4MeFfqCFz0J xJwtWpiP59OyTUj3vVjmTiSDejEYkliescmkwpJgNV9I2SqERrBO2Oz492cMxRMMz69u WDeyeF5zj5p6uDMEKrMpZulkb9aGI+CArv2xU= Received: by 10.65.98.8 with SMTP id a8mr2347768qbm.118.1232899584900; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from vms1 (206-248-190-95.dsl.teksavvy.com [206.248.190.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p31sm16647994qbp.18.2009.01.25.08.06.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:06:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Ansar Mohammed" To: Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:06:32 -0500 Message-ID: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acl/BuPGhawTsuMUREuNxT1fBxkmTQ== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:06:26 -0000 Hello All, Does anyone know how I can remove the Kerberos 5 installation from FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 16:16:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A55106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toold.zhang@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEBE8FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:16:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toold.zhang@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so1154894qwb.7 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:16:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=nv6O3VpT4m2U1RydPAu/JpxDoksUs8aH7ddunDnSC+Q=; b=N2drDwATAWPWREOTIT+PIiZAu+jhMO4/9VvWJ9P2NOR6yybLdWd/dxEBo9yd/MlbjS ubCPPWdLJFHAzelo7QMKUyyjF759qDds+5qYDdp+LViPNOKlOOIkDvXTlngvC5A26Y0j 44ZReErOuMoM5yZyAin8X0mkPp6V7hbxkCnGo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; b=CZcOZd9tHTDJnRFs+iSu5K5vwKWcci7VxWXSVnDRH3gKX7XKeIf/y7pqFnurK/Sigs ID+ZFa9wqkukrpd6sXzzgD+UmtvZqR0Cqimgp16TbgSM+5X+38AxAlVnEMutysbku7qX VaHJboqroS7myXEmnUyB89XEwm5dVMSgce+1o= Received: by 10.214.79.3 with SMTP id c3mr298538qab.370.1232900168163; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:16:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dell.home (pool-173-67-8-78.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net [173.67.8.78]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm6813037ywl.41.2009.01.25.08.16.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:16:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:15:49 -0500 (EST) From: Old Zhang To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: nspluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:16:09 -0000 I have the following errors when I view YouTube video. I got the errors from linux-flashplugin9 and firefox3. LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/home/Drive/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so [/lib/libc.so.6: version GLIBC_2.1.3 required by /usr/home/Drive/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so not defined] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/home/Drive/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so [/lib/libc.so.6: version GLIBC_2.1.3 required by /usr/home/Drive/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so not defined] (npviewer.bin:59941): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_Write() wait for reply: Message timeout *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/work/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-wrapper.c:2236):invoke_NPP_DestroyStream: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/work/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-wrapper.c:1974):invoke_NPP_GetValue: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 11 in NPP_GetValue() *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/work/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-wrapper.c:1855):invoke_NPP_Destroy: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) ------------------- If I use firefox 2, I get the following errors: LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/home/Drive/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so [/lib/libc.so.6: version GLIBC_2.1.3 required by /usr/home/Drive/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so not defined] (npviewer.bin:59983): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_SetWindow() wait for reply: Message timeout *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/work/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-wrapper.c:1974):invoke_NPP_GetValue: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 11 in NPP_GetValue() *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/work/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-wrapper.c:1924):invoke_NPP_SetWindow: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(/usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper/work/nspluginwrapper-1.2.2/src/npw-wrapper.c:2164):invoke_NPP_NewStream: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) -------------------------- 'uname -a' output is FreeBSD xxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxx.com 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 20 08:09:21 EST 2009 root@xxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MY7KERNEL i386 How do I fix it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 16:21:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6F8106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.betherenow.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5785E8FC1B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.72] (93-97-24-219.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.24.219]) by smtp1.betherenow.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53A698016 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:21:22 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <497C9182.5030204@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:21:22 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: coretemp for AMD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:21:29 -0000 Hello, Can I read cpu die temperature for my AMD Athlon 64 X2 cpu with coretemp? According to http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/supportlist.html it includes AMD processors but when I load coretemp.ko sysctl still can't see dev.cpu.?.temperature. Is this even the same coretemp as the website talks about windows a lot? This is on FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Tue Dec 16 18:28:48 GMT 2008 with GENERIC kernel. Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 16:23:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDA11065680 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:23:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F167D8FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-68-197.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.68.197]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB2616C0172; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:23:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n0PGNDj1017323; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:23:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:23:13 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Wojciech Puchar Message-Id: <20090125172313.340f7e1b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090125155253.J44414@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <497C4FF4.5010201@fxclub.org> <497C6DF5.3090009@gmx.de> <20090125155253.J44414@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lokadamus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on multy hosts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:23:22 -0000 On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:53:12 +0100 (CET), Wojciech Puchar wrote: > why don't simply use unix tools. for same-sized harddrives simply use dd Or dump / restore, as described in the handbook. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 16:25:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383BA1065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32268FC19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0PGPt9F061407; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:25:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3DF47BA84; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:25:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:25:55 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Ansar Mohammed Message-ID: <20090125162555.GA81963@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="liOOAslEiF7prFVr" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:25:57 -0000 --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:06:32AM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: > Hello All, >=20 > Does anyone know how I can remove the Kerberos 5 installation from FreeBS= D? Put 'WITHOUT_KERBEROS=3Dtrue' in /etc/src.conf, and rebuild the system =66rom source, as documented in the Handbook. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --liOOAslEiF7prFVr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkl8kpMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUdMgCeNc/hJB/WOEbzT8XiKvtCtE5g FZcAniUjbVkQ1nn0LARBuFhYfVYGdua2 =neU9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --liOOAslEiF7prFVr-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 16:56:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CE6106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218338FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so3666320mue.3 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:56:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Md+7E0ndb1MyRdwsDaUr9wi+DKzNH+mk1SfpxHmKX84=; b=riNxoqHvV/5a/caYDhtAlbl5NENd0SLfI/aJw4WfWuH9Cmo6PFy51ZtpBP6ybVl6i4 oierbSCr7txpBvwKq/1JKlzXwqlcnLwCW1bpYUY7lxBiAolOsLVgHqKt1lwrlYnl0Hjl wTMF09DkG+ZJfjFFC8D2eGiFA+ymtYTYbfqt0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o42zrrroec440kI3FmeSfS5QyDPo+QiX/W41P25Km7oYK/rlVQ0IiuHJ+sWFrfeeqg LNZDzX3k21RwuE3150X5Tyo3z1XCIovV+XJ++j+BBGf7vmddGYs/ZKW5KUIUU64AcIws TJ9qd+SQHtCFh/9MVOcVNESbuMSBjfWKccolI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.90.17 with SMTP id s17mr1326190mul.73.1232902560441; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:56:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <497C9182.5030204@onetel.com> References: <497C9182.5030204@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:56:00 -0500 Message-ID: <8cb6106e0901250856r616ab968w501c7ff918e65910@mail.gmail.com> From: Josh Carroll To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: coretemp for AMD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:56:03 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Hello, > > Can I read cpu die temperature for my AMD Athlon 64 X2 cpu with coretemp? > According to > > http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/supportlist.html > > it includes AMD processors but when I load coretemp.ko sysctl still can't > see dev.cpu.?.temperature. > > Is this even the same coretemp as the website talks about windows a lot? > > This is on FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Tue Dec 16 18:28:48 GMT 2008 with > GENERIC kernel. For (supported) AMD processors, check out k8temp(4). Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 17:03:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA166106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4128FC14 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C236636812; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:03:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:06:40 +0100 From: cpghost To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090125170640.GA1125@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <20090123011043.GA86638@thought.org> <497954FE.8050206@gmail.com> <497a08f0.M7aLYVzoum+g95mw%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090125020349.47c3eb68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090125015632.GD31215@thought.org> <20090125100344.V43743@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090125100344.V43743@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to create a DVD backup filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:03:56 -0000 On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:05:12AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > cdr.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'CDROM > > 642848 -rw-r--r-- 1 kline wheel 657922048 Jan 24 15:34 cdr.iso > > > > what is the safest command to use to burn to 1. a CD, and 2. a > > DVD? Since `file' says that cdr.iso is a filesystem, I'm > > if it ISO9660 filesystem image. > > you may check it before writing this way > > mdconfig -a -o readonly -t vnode -f cdr.iso > mount_cd9660 /dev/md0 /mnt > > then after checking > > umount /mnt > mdconfig -d -u 0 > > (assumed you don't use other md devices that moment, if so, device number > will not be md0) Right. But you can do it even faster, since our bsdtar is able to read (most) iso9660 images directly, e.g.: $ tar -tf cdr.iso -cpghost -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 17:04:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE2F10656C1 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from misha_78@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s15.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s15.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98008FC13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from misha_78@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY102-W24 ([64.4.61.124]) by bay0-omc3-s15.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:04:23 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [190.188.27.112] From: Ramiro Caso To: , Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:04:22 -0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <06f1971fe3096c2194373fe9f642bd91.squirrel@dl1.njit.edu> References: <06f1971fe3096c2194373fe9f642bd91.squirrel@dl1.njit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2009 17:04:23.0487 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8A914F0:01C97F0E] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: RE: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:04:24 -0000 > Date: Sat=2C 24 Jan 2009 22:29:01 -0500 > From: wclark@dl1.njit.edu > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: (no subject) >=20 > I just in stalled VTiger and missed the instructions on how to install it > .do know or is there a command that will let me find that info You could take a look at /usr/ports/www/vtiger/files/pkg-message.in=3B this= won't make the appropriate substitutions (i.e.=2C '%%WWWDIR%%' for the act= ual directory)=2C but still it's something (the same goes for www/vtiger-cu= stomerportal and german/vtiger=2C if you installed any of them). _________________________________________________________________ Permanece actualizado con MSN Noticias. 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([190.177.192.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 36sm10175376aga.29.2009.01.25.09.05.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:05:42 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:05:37 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> <20090125162555.GA81963@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090125162555.GA81963@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251505.37534.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:05:43 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 2:25:55 pm Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:06:32AM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > Does anyone know how I can remove the Kerberos 5 installation from > > FreeBSD? > > Put 'WITHOUT_KERBEROS=true' in /etc/src.conf, and rebuild the system > from source, as documented in the Handbook. > > Roland Speaking of wich ... is there a examples/src.conf file hidden somewhere in 7.0-REL or do I have to create my own from scratch based on man src.conf? [gonzalo@inferna ~]% locate src.conf /usr/share/man/man5/src.conf.5.gz /usr/src/share/man/man5/src.conf.5 [gonzalo@inferna ~]% Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 18:00:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4961106566C for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net (relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7717B8FC1B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAGYwfEnUnw4R/2dsb2JhbADKcYVL Received: from pih-relay04.plus.net ([212.159.14.17]) by relay.pcl-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2009 17:31:09 +0000 Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by pih-relay04.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1LR8pB-0007Xz-1v; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:31:09 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LR8pA-0000MY-G6; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:31:08 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:31:08 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <497C9182.5030204@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <497C9182.5030204@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251731.08301.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 4e300553a1285a7d96756fb98b203200 Cc: Chris Whitehouse Subject: Re: coretemp for AMD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:00:28 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Can I read cpu die temperature for my AMD Athlon 64 X2 cpu with > coretemp? According to the man page the coretemp driver only provides support for the on-die digital thermal sensor present in Intel Core and newer CPUs, suggesting that it wouldn't work for AMD CPUs. But I get sensible looking results for my Athlon 64 X2 4850e with the following command: sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature > According to > > http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/supportlist.html > > it includes AMD processors but when I load coretemp.ko sysctl still > can't see dev.cpu.?.temperature. > > Is this even the same coretemp as the website talks about windows a > lot? That looks like a totally different Windows only application. -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 18:32:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D141065670 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EEA8FC1D for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0PHvmhC044872 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:57:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0PHvm3I044869; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:57:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:57:48 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Lawrence Auster In-Reply-To: <20090125151654.KCFY22141.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> Message-ID: <20090125185736.D44868@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20090125151654.KCFY22141.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@2ao1z> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are the Zionist leaders in Israel so happy about the new President? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:32:13 -0000 > Why is the President of Israel, the terrorist who just oversaw the Zionist mass murder and maiming of thousands of Palestinians so happy > that Obama is President of the USA? > by David Duke because he use FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 18:49:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0331065674 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com (mail-qy0-f17.google.com [209.85.221.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258F18FC0A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so8663909qyk.19 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=XJHdXS7DFtF+obtbAj2O0AOCFZqJyGqbaNACqa6KNsI=; b=FwyGOp9uzzPbL5nuRcPWYBqVfVdZc36exzqjB0+Dw9J35HVqOyeGvVFfSowCxJ6TaZ zmYBXNigacHaSyeJYCn8t3DOrKUmJE9bVxrE6Z7aVXqo3JuVu+oa7t6p4Ef8aQ/3hlQG B7Kf9bwbQs2GQYrR/6/qeX6RMS5i5lN9GxfJA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=fwALwrct4/+bdKbMRV+BDz+aGdxj+CspSYdx5Ld5WPUwpPGEmjz3ukazVYAGkglv9Z 9G9w5lIEHup1hIaeDWN5mYkxj/inwH432ZVFlcAcQyBbIJl13U27xNexr/7sHz/Eo0T6 0fqyFO0hJksiaIFanUgzIklQW0N+uop6SSfjQ= Received: by 10.214.11.17 with SMTP id 17mr1037153qak.77.1232909374553; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ([190.177.192.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm2588978ywp.18.2009.01.25.10.49.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:49:34 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: Bogdan Potishuk Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:49:17 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> <200901251505.37534.gnemmi@gmail.com> <497CAC3C.7030309@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <497CAC3C.7030309@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251649.17722.gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:49:35 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 4:15:24 pm Bogdan Potishuk wrote: > Gonzalo Nemmi said the following on 25.01.2009 19:05: > > On Sunday 25 January 2009 2:25:55 pm Roland Smith wrote: > >> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:06:32AM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: > >>> Hello All, > >>> > >>> Does anyone know how I can remove the Kerberos 5 installation from > >>> FreeBSD? > >> > >> Put 'WITHOUT_KERBEROS=true' in /etc/src.conf, and rebuild the system > >> from source, as documented in the Handbook. > >> > >> Roland > > > > Speaking of wich ... is there a examples/src.conf file hidden somewhere > > in 7.0-REL or do I have to create my own from scratch based on man > > src.conf? > > > > [gonzalo@inferna ~]% locate src.conf > > /usr/share/man/man5/src.conf.5.gz > > /usr/src/share/man/man5/src.conf.5 > > [gonzalo@inferna ~]% > > You have to create /etc/src.conf with required options from src.conf(5) That's what I thought .. I just wanted to make sure ... I found it odd that there are examples/* for almost everything except for src.conf Anyway .. as soon as I have some spare time, I'll try to come up with a src.conf that could go under /usr/share/examples/etc/ in order to avoid the need to go through src.conf(5) in order to create one. Thanks for your kind answer. Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 18:53:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13987106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D47D8FC1A for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0PIrCFD005097; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:53:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 91FCBBA84; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:53:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:53:12 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Gonzalo Nemmi Message-ID: <20090125185312.GA85768@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> <20090125162555.GA81963@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200901251505.37534.gnemmi@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200901251505.37534.gnemmi@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:53:15 -0000 --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 03:05:37PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > On Sunday 25 January 2009 2:25:55 pm Roland Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:06:32AM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can remove the Kerberos 5 installation from > > > FreeBSD? > > > > Put 'WITHOUT_KERBEROS=3Dtrue' in /etc/src.conf, and rebuild the system > > from source, as documented in the Handbook. > > > > Speaking of wich ... is there a examples/src.conf file hidden somewhere i= n=20 > 7.0-REL or do I have to create my own from scratch based on man src.conf? You'll have to create it based on the manpage. All variables are listed in there. The default is to have no src.conf and build a kernel/world with everything in it. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkl8tRgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWlFQCfZJRTuz73g5GcQR4e2OHKlxtN 2xAAnA/9XsJY1LFmUc5nd9ot90igocnV =qUsc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mYCpIKhGyMATD0i+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 19:00:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E220106566B for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3C08FC08 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so2236697ywe.13 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:00:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=5JPd6Ksqjm2wsHiDBrydRmJojzA+3rP1POAQ5dw2wqE=; b=RV9BGcnzp6N6Ugy1FvtScIMrWZi79in4x9JquGDBRLNy+Jh4+xByvvlzzVB08HSbOf sjUnPsMxEw03Tv9hipKSx0YpEXmCqb/H9of8wFZSpEarll3CaGNxx7tDLAodoUGJIwyV /L8WphgTgIg0iRec+48maz6/a7Z4K+IyHDT+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=IeMTfwEia/eDpR/AD1BLh/EP4d8gY76hrWfT5kph5mXgaXcq8JunQwFp2qyMSU08QG XclBWvj4PxXSQPVmVM7pqEeNhKAeUs4/Yf6sDYqtg4SL9geVJB/YeNLJXSO98tepSbEb X/aUmQQZR1KuaQxOM2M+v/TbXiq/iMimS6BZI= Received: by 10.100.134.10 with SMTP id h10mr366049and.116.1232910005544; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? ([190.177.192.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d12sm14791898and.24.2009.01.25.11.00.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:00:05 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: Roland Smith Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:00:01 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <0aae01c97f06$e43bb7a0$acb326e0$@com> <200901251505.37534.gnemmi@gmail.com> <20090125185312.GA85768@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090125185312.GA85768@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251700.01126.gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: remove kerberos 5 from FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:00:07 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009 4:53:12 pm Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 03:05:37PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > > On Sunday 25 January 2009 2:25:55 pm Roland Smith wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:06:32AM -0500, Ansar Mohammed wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can remove the Kerberos 5 installation from > > > > FreeBSD? > > > > > > Put 'WITHOUT_KERBEROS=true' in /etc/src.conf, and rebuild the system > > > from source, as documented in the Handbook. > > > > Speaking of wich ... is there a examples/src.conf file hidden somewhere > > in 7.0-REL or do I have to create my own from scratch based on man > > src.conf? > > You'll have to create it based on the manpage. All variables are listed > in there. The default is to have no src.conf and build a kernel/world > with everything in it. > > Roland Sure thing Roland, I understand that .. otherwise chances are user would end up with half a system or a crippled one .. but I was thinking on a /usr/share/examples/etc/src.conf that would come in handy when rebuilding the whole system for, say, a notebook .. when you know in advanced that there's a lot of stuff you won't need. Going through src.conf(5) is ok .. but having a src.conf template already available and fully commented sounds better to me ... Nothing is further from the truth than my opinions, but I still think that having such a file available does come in handy :) Best Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 25 19:11:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D6D1065679 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltcddats@nildram.co.uk) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-6-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-6-a-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CAA8FC26 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltcddats@nildram.co.uk) X-Trace: 70641678/mk-outboundfilter-6.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.226.102/None/ltcddats@nildram.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.226.102 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: ltcddats@nildram.co.uk X-MUA: KMail/1.9.10 X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAP5HfEk+A+Jm/2dsb2JhbADKa4VL X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,322,1231113600"; d="scan'208";a="70641678" X-IP-Direction: IN Received: from davids-website.com (HELO www.davids-website.com) ([62.3.226.102]) by smtp.f2s.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 25 Jan 2009 19:11:55 +0000 Received: from farscape.davids-website.com (farscape.davids-website.com [10.0.0.1]) by www.davids-website.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18611C78E for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:52 +0000 (GMT) From: LtCdData Organization: Microsoft-sux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:55 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200901251438.25261.ltcddats@nildram.co.uk> <20090125154719.GA80226@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090125154719.GA80226@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-3" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901251911.55650.ltcddats@nildram.co.uk> Subject: Re: ghostscript8 fails to build- cheerz X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:11:59 -0000 On Sunday 25 January 2009, Roland Smith w