Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:06:51 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com> To: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> Cc: chris@calldei.com, Mattias Pantzare <pantzer@ludd.luth.se>, Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>, Dmitry Valdov <dv@dv.ru>, Brian Feldman <green@unixhelp.org>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DoS from local users (fwd) Message-ID: <3713335B.25F7FB16@newsguy.com> References: <199904102051.WAA07790@zed.ludd.luth.se> <199904102057.NAA01570@apollo.backplane.com> <19990413004728.C1968@holly.dyndns.org> <37131436.644E6E48@newsguy.com> <199904131150.EAA14736@apollo.backplane.com>
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Matthew Dillon wrote: > > I would note that BEST.COM has been running, effectively, public shell > systems for 5 years. The last couple of years have been using FreeBSD. > It works just dandy. We put 2000 users on each box. > > Just because people aren't willing to spend thousands of hours making > the kernel handle every conceivable user abuse doesn't make the machine > a bad solution for a particular problem. With that sort of attitude, > no operating system ever made could live up to your standards. FreeBSD > does the things most easily handled in a kernel. You, the sysop, are > supposed to do the things that are most easily handled by a sysop. That > is inclusive of writing monitoring and kill scripts. Ok, disclaimer in the vain attempt to prevent further replies. I took an issue with blaming public shell accounts for perceived problems with the way FreeBSD manages them. I do think FreeBSD, and Unix, generally speaking, is one of the best deals available. It could be improved, and it does require non-clueless sysadmins. Saying "public shell accounts are a bad idea" is dismissing the real issues, and blaming the messenger for the bad news. What you, Dillon, were saying in the message quoted in the message I originally replied to, is to the point. FreeBSD can handle it, as long as the sysadmin knows what s/he is doing. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "nothing better than the ability to perform cunning linguistics" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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