From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 28 19:08:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870DF16A4CE for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 19:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-lbl.southeast.rr.com [24.25.9.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7C143D1F for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 19:08:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@ec.rr.com) Received: from ec.rr.com (cpe-024-211-231-149.ec.rr.com [24.211.231.149]) i1T38ckF001542; Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:08:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <404157DB.6050601@ec.rr.com> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:09:15 -0500 From: Jason User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20040210 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Poy References: <20040228163221.C8264-100000@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET> In-Reply-To: <20040228163221.C8264-100000@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld times X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 03:08:42 -0000 Vincent Poy wrote: >On Sat, 28 Feb 2004, Jason wrote: > > > >>Vincent Poy wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hello all: >>> >>> I was wondering what people are getting as the fastest make >>>buildworld times since it seems like a P4m-2.6Ghz 2GB RAM, 7200RPM HDD >>>machine when using make -j4 buildworld or just make buildworld takes 2.5 >>>hours. I guess I'm trying to look for what the average times for >>>buildworld is supposed to be for a Pentium 4 Northwood based platform. >>> >>> >>On my athlon xp running at 2ghz, 512mb 400mhz ram, 7200rpm dma 133 hd, >>nforce2 I got 30-35min on a buildworld for current a week ago, but I had >>to disable my nocyrpto option in make.conf to get mergemaster to work, >>so that took me to 40-45min. I used $make -j4 -s buildworld. I'll add >>my config file to show how to configure for 5.2.1 or current for speed. >>Also I do like amd stuff better than intel, because I think the p4 >>netbust(yes I know it is netburst, but it seems to have fallen short of >>expectations, at least for me)arch. sucks, so I wouldn't mind seeing >>some buildworld benchmarchs and statics to which is faster. >> >> > > I think it has more to do with the debug options as I can see from >your CONFIG file. How long does your buildkernel take? Also, is there >something to time the buildworld process since I notice it has a start >time but it doesn't tell you at the end, how long it takes exactly. I >basically do a script /home/root/mw.out and then do the make buildworld >under that. All I can tell is that the buildworld started at: >Script started on Sat Feb 28 01:53:16 2004 >You have mail.^M >root@bigbang [1:53am][/usr/src] >> make -j4 u^H^[[Kbuildworld^M^M >and then it ended at: >===> usr.sbin/zzz^M >gzip -cn /usr/src/usr.sbin/zzz/zzz.8 > zzz.8.gz^M >root@bigbang [4:36am][/usr/src] >> > > The original Willimette P4 was pretty poor in performance but I >think the Northwood is better. I'm running a Northwood Mobile P4 2.6Ghz >CPU which is the maximum this machine supports so I don't really have a >choice and this is a high-end notebook at the time as it pretty much has >the same specs as the Dell Precision M50 with 2GB Memory which I did by >changing the HD, video card and also the CPU and memory. My desktop runs >on a P4-3.2C with HyperThreading and 2GB and 7200rpm drives as well and >that machine is pretty fast. > > >Cheers, >Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ >Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] >WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] >San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] >HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] >Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin > > > > I agree with the debugging options making the biggest difference. I think my buildkernel takes about or less than 10min, I also build my stuff in a terminal window with x running. You will see a speed up if you drop into single user mode. The system has a built in timer, just type time in front of a command and it times it for you. Yes, the p4c is the last p4 before they really changed things. The whatever(ALU?) units that used to run at 2x clock are now at core clock speed. I think they also increased the pipeline again. The current p4 has lower ipc than the last model, but is going to higher clock speed(supposedly) to run faster all together. They did improve serval other parts like the branch predictor, which must be dead on to get good performance form such a deep pipeline. As for ram, the 2gigs sounds nice but infact it will slow you down if it is not regestered. Intel says it won't hurt speed to 1gig or more and to back this up they show how you loose only 10% bandwidth or something less while not mentioning the access latinces go through the roof. It has been a while since I last read up on intel stuff so I recommend if this stuff intrestest you to look into it more deeply yourself.