From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed May 29 22:35:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FA115AF6E1 for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 22:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x72e.google.com (mail-qk1-x72e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2C9D8ABA8 for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 22:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x72e.google.com with SMTP id g18so2625916qkl.3 for ; Wed, 29 May 2019 15:35:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=xghfP4Ig8OD8d0rPTWiudiWUtcZ0QwJFGmNH5A9zf/I=; b=XDsnOR9WQudF/bjX8k4t9Bod6np9Ug6zEsSWmn0uPvPVtug/5563GwfzvWN0WfxIqO zOTQhAKHszhxtiYbcH30uQoW5UvnyieWnolW1scIhJScAlnG/fHZuQQP7ciyit4alj7e FTdvC05mEQqLU9relIb5IREPsj10X80VGJ06cWm4W6csgkABgeKsB3f+lDSrdiXnKROZ IrDe+XBAcqIuODAi7A/geIyshs9g0iJ8tnK+G+njdnZ9NyVtrHlkrZnQtpf04CGzIxnI wkXkr4h6dVabBnQ4DWhNWwhVQkANHie2KzMOfkBslnlyEWQkibWnbMY69c4euMiDOsEA gejA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xghfP4Ig8OD8d0rPTWiudiWUtcZ0QwJFGmNH5A9zf/I=; b=K3b6yLE68HvcE0fN7CAUQ+p9uhTLLeEOgETFWd1N1PAJNVFeZgOLAgNVLGLI/n9pYj szE0Pm6PRbGuGVg3SL2KNHpet93kTvkoYTYRZTjbq8T9A4sHMWaQqteAigmEDmQNJ3uB C3nwt04UjcTgbS1JLjopOZ2ZCKgR6L665gKJqoQdw/J5Mw9qixjsEajJ327gIAZPHQoq 9Qfmkn2obmgWO//EaUpL640C5lIuQxeXoN8Ic+pr3S93x1uXrhIIDcbXP5pI/m6Mnl7O pCppj3G5Y+iJnJkkmd1UAfLp/+wr37MP44sbOadK8W9BQg/V4lhEQ5AVgthTClS5kOKC uRwA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVxWKorD9Vk6BwEBKvmr5YAySsnx6l141A/AvI2gZl+EDyU5H7c 8WU7uYLueSXt594kBQyWCrmDrBEztIyOqXMbDEBIiA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyIt4Nq/dX9cmQPcrteTEDnwpCvlwwhXX7IqyFNl1q296Jwkphdnp+gN16nHGCs+38gbC0CHoUrShaOskY0hg4= X-Received: by 2002:a37:4b48:: with SMTP id y69mr248296qka.77.1559169328238; Wed, 29 May 2019 15:35:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5f15aa33-cd2f-da5a-9f9b-412f81467736@FreeBSD.org> <9d4c67c9-09ed-4dd4-bb0c-94df3c9ebcb2@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 16:35:17 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: impossible to installkernel without a compiler? To: Andriy Gapon Cc: FreeBSD Current X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E2C9D8ABA8 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=XDsnOR9W X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.95 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.92)[-0.919,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.02)[ip: (-9.42), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-3.32), asn: 15169(-2.30), country: US(-0.06)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[e.2.7.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: ALT1.aspmx.l.google.com]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 22:35:29 -0000 There's already a list of targets to except... It's hard to have an opt-in list, however :( Warner On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:26 AM Andriy Gapon wrote: > > Just want to note that the problem extends to doing such things as "make > aliases" in /etc/mail on a system installed without a compiler. > > I guess it would be nice if COMPILER_TYPE was enforced only when a > compiler is > actually needed. make can be used for more things than building C code. > > > -- > Andriy Gapon >