From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Nov 11 14:35:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F12F14EBC for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:35:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20551; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:34:03 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991111152205.0454a2e0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 15:34:14 -0700 To: John Reynolds~ , Alfred Perlstein From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Quick question on IBM ThinkPad Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <14379.13030.781773.165594@hip186.ch.intel.com> References: <14379.9777.612177.194709@hip186.ch.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I own a ThinkPad (a 760), and will not make the mistake of buying one again. First and foremost, no matter what the company says in its marketing literature, the ThinkPad is designed to be a Windows-specific machine. There are no audio or modem drivers for ANY version of UNIX; as a result, the company's vaunted MWave DSP is useless unless one is running Windows. (I understand that there are OS/2 drivers, but that when you use these to run the modem at 33.6 Kbps they make the system highly unstable and cause sound to stop working.) Power management and BIOS configuration are likewise not possible under any version of UNIX, since the company does not provide a setup utility within the BIOS. And the Cyber chipsets function slowly, if at all, with most X servers. The SCSI adapter in the docking station is not compatible with many drivers for the chipset on which it's based (though FreeBSD's drivers, thankfully, seem to work). The hard disk connector is proprietary and supported by only a couple of third parties. Second, the machine lacks physical integrity. The case is rubber-coated metal, and the slightest jar or scratch exposes the metal to view. The RAM compartment door works loose easily, causing memory errors, and the RAM is directly behind the hard disk and thus is heated by the hard disk's motor. When the machine is in the docking station, heat dissipation from the "heat pipe" on the bottom of the unit is blocked by the plastic of the dock, causing the machine to become incredibly hot. (PCMCIA cards ejected from the unit are frequently too hot to touch.) The cover latches and keyboard have fragile plastic pieces which are easy to snap. Other problems with the physical design include a CD-ROM drive which gets in the way of the battery (you must remove the drive to change battery packs) and tiny, tinny, weak speakers. Finally, there's poor support and service. There are no dealers nearby who actually have the capability to service the unit, so it must be shipped to Memphis. Loaners are generally not available, so one must make do without the computer in the meantime. In short, I'd give the ThinkPad a miss. --Brett Glass At 02:19 PM 11/11/1999 -0700, John Reynolds~ wrote: >[ On Thursday, November 11, Alfred Perlstein wrote: ] > > > > Well, urm, how are we supposed to know if you don't even know? > > > >Yeah I know, I know ... ;) But you see, around here, you get issued what >you get issued. 99.9999999% of the people here are too ignorant to know the >difference between hardware and don't *care* what's compatible with what or >why because they're gonna run Ebola98 or WinNoT which are the only two >"supported" platforms. IT doesn't issue hardware not supported by either, so >no end-user has to care what they receive as a desktop PC/laptop. Therefore, >it's tough for me to find out what I'd get before I get it because knowbody >knows or cares assuming blindly that I'm a Windoze drone. :) > > > --------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > geez, I wish someone would force me to take a laptop... :) > >:) > >point taken, but A) I do not like the thinkpad series, and B) it makes my >life more of a security nightmare than it already is (more freaking procedures >to deal with laptops for corporate security reasons, etc. etc. etc. > > > good luck, > >cheers, > >-Jr > >-- >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >| John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | >| Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | >| jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message