From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 00:46:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B98106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F2B8FC1A for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p5Q0Kv1W048578 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:20:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p5Q0KrtW080585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:20:53 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p5Q0KqAc080576; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:20:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:20:52 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20110626002051.GA44024@dan.emsphone.com> References: <20110625045740.GA3383@tinyCurrent> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110625045740.GA3383@tinyCurrent> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:20:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 gives wrong -I dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:46:11 -0000 --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In the last episode (Jun 25), Matthias Apitz said: > Why gives > > $ pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 > -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include > > $ ls -ld /usr/local/include/glib-2.0 /usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include > ls: /usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include: No such file or directory > drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 512 May 28 19:01 /usr/local/include/glib-2.0 > > a non existing -I directory? This concrete example is with a 9-CURRENT > and glib-2.0 from the ports as glib-2.26.1_1, but I see this as well in > some older 8.x systems; Checking Solaris and SUSE Linux, I see a similar pair of directories: solaris$ pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include linux$ pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include The /usr/lib* directory on each system contains a single file: glibconfig.h. On FreeBSD, this file is in /usr/local/include/glib-2.0/ along with all the other headers (headers don't belong in /lib/ anyway). Try putting the attached patch into the files directory of the glib20 port. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="patch-glib-2.0.pc.in" No headers are installed into ${libdir}/glib-2.0/include, so remove it from CFLAGS --- glib-2.26.1/glib-2.0.pc.in 2009-03-31 18:04:20.000000000 -0500 +++ glib-2.26.1/glib-2.0.pc.in 2011-06-25 19:14:23.580424986 -0500 @@ -12,4 +12,4 @@ Version: @VERSION@ Libs: -L${libdir} -lglib-2.0 @INTLLIBS@ Libs.private: @ICONV_LIBS@ -Cflags: -I${includedir}/glib-2.0 -I${libdir}/glib-2.0/include @GLIB_EXTRA_CFLAGS@ +Cflags: -I${includedir}/glib-2.0 @GLIB_EXTRA_CFLAGS@ --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 02:30:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A3A106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:30:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5A68FC15 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg24 with SMTP id 24so1096229wyg.13 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.168.16 with SMTP id j16mr4328114wel.20.1309055434372; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (angel.c-mal.com [82.241.189.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ej7sm3082471wbb.36.2011.06.25.19.30.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:30:32 -0700 (PDT) References: <4E00EA98.1090805@nagual.nl> <4E05F31B.3050603@nagual.nl> In-Reply-To: <4E05F31B.3050603@nagual.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <05BD1A01-367F-45B4-B9F7-8190A7DB1B64@my.gd> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 04:30:26 +0200 To: Dick Hoogendijk Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Valentin Bud Subject: Re: FreeBSD ZFS system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:30:38 -0000 On 25 Jun 2011, at 16:39, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: > Op 23-6-2011 9:35 schreef Valentin Bud: >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Dick Hoogendijk > wrote: >>=20 >> OK, it works very well. Installing a ZFS FreeBSD system with an >> ufs /boot is very very easy using the PC-BSD DVD. >> However, I have one question: >>=20 >> I'd like to install FreeBSD (pcbsd) on a (zfs) mirror >> In OpenSolaris you can install directly to the zfs mirror, but >> how's this in this situation> After all, an UFS partitin is also >> created. How can I get the equivalent of an OpenSolaris mirrored >> install for a FreeBSD system? >>=20 >> Hope I phrased the question clearly enough. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> " >>=20 >>=20 >> Hello Community, >>=20 >> Like others said in their answer to your question, you don't have to put /= boot on UFS, just go with root on ZFS. >> If you would like speed when installing the system I recommend mfsBSD - h= ttp://mfsbsd.vx.sk/. As pointed out >> in the web page there is a script (zfsinstall) that does all the work for= you. It does all the steps described in the >> wiki - http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror. >>=20 >> If you want to gain knowledge about the process of installing FreeBSD wit= h root on ZFS then go with the wiki >> article. Using mfsBSD I install a 8.2-STABLE custom system in under 5 sec= onds. That's pretty neat :). > OK, I tried mfsbsd. I had the iso loaded at ata1 master and freebsd-8.2-dv= d as ata1 slave. > I booted my VM; mfsbsd came up fine. I mounted my fbsd dvd drive on /cdrom= and tried to run the zfsinstall script. Alas, it refuses.. It can't find th= e (needed!) 8.2-RELEASE.???tgz file It does not exist. There is only a direc= tory 8.2-RELEASE (on DVD as well as on CDROM ). Question: is this a bug in z= fsinstall script? > How do I work around it? >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" Install your system by hand once you're logged under mfsbsd. Follow the procedure I really need to finish someday, here: http://my.gd/bsd.htm (or html ?)= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 02:33:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93112106566C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319E48FC0A for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:33:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg24 with SMTP id 24so1096779wyg.13 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.229.202 with SMTP id h52mr616517weq.17.1309055582211; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (angel.c-mal.com [82.241.189.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n20sm2097620weq.39.2011.06.25.19.33.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:33:01 -0700 (PDT) References: <4E06180F.7090409@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E06180F.7090409@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <16AE025C-EA55-45F3-8419-542228CE5AA4@my.gd> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 04:32:55 +0200 To: Joshua Isom Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Performance of a USB ZIL for ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:33:03 -0000 On 25 Jun 2011, at 19:17, Joshua Isom wrote: > I was wondering if anyone had tried using a decent USB flash drive for the= ZIL. I know it'd be hard finding one fast enough, but some from patriot se= em like they might be suitable for home use. Part of the idea is to just mi= nimize hard drive thrashing and the wear and tear associated with it. If it= helps prevent the drives from going bad, and doesn't hurt performance too b= ad all the better. But if it's going to hurt performance too much or not he= lp prevent thrashing there isn't a point. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" I stopped reading at the title. The answer is no. Grab a SSD for $80-120ish.= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 05:25:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7FA106566C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 05:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9808FC12 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 05:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so4652880iyb.13 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:25:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vqLtMvAroolPtCfngqmFDQ8RjjMnuyxi+XxLzzrHp34=; b=ZSSHV7vUU9z51WOC/9r9TkBUmjav9oNZ8tyiBORw5PlKSgfgW+c1L4EeqgGJTbtrA2 xTIe2RlxRes2XAtziJ3dm3/Gc9CdiPwaNl0saII5TbK53eemvccWl/BB+M2GemdGkL1G TFWztu9s04pKBAT93zBK3/XbvU2Sg4sSNrRjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rfX+nqyVsq9hgzrFpZkbOe2ecnxVph+xlmFxsrECfSq+jpNzrNlObFdptQXfW7gfVA KG1uFxfxzaZw5pfgl0h6onE2bVa73LLLxpSVRnhT0imvcHObRnuDmfCpwDQmz+r+R7an 7FUy+4yMdVW98Yw/8+wVLZrl7vanhjK77x49s= Received: by 10.231.74.2 with SMTP id s2mr4686349ibj.8.1309065939578; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (c-98-212-201-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net [98.212.201.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id in11sm2357542ibb.22.2011.06.25.22.25.38 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E06C2D1.4050601@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:25:37 -0500 From: Joshua Isom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Damien Fleuriot References: <4E06180F.7090409@gmail.com> <16AE025C-EA55-45F3-8419-542228CE5AA4@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <16AE025C-EA55-45F3-8419-542228CE5AA4@my.gd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Performance of a USB ZIL for ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 05:25:41 -0000 On 6/25/2011 9:32 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 25 Jun 2011, at 19:17, Joshua Isom wrote: > >> I was wondering if anyone had tried using a decent USB flash drive for the ZIL. I know it'd be hard finding one fast enough, but some from patriot seem like they might be suitable for home use. Part of the idea is to just minimize hard drive thrashing and the wear and tear associated with it. If it helps prevent the drives from going bad, and doesn't hurt performance too bad all the better. But if it's going to hurt performance too much or not help prevent thrashing there isn't a point. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I stopped reading at the title. > The answer is no. > > Grab a SSD for $80-120ish. Perhaps it would have helped to read the email. Part of the concern is making sure the drives don't fail and not just throughput. Given that Kingston sells an SATA SSD for $40 that only gets writes at 30mb/s write, and some USB drives might get up to 20mb/s. If I get two drives and put them on different controllers, mirrored, I might get acceptable performance. I may still loose performance, but if my drives last a year longer, I can probably accept it. I'm ok with loosing some performance, but I just don't want it dragging down the system. And if it won't help the drives last longer there's no point. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 06:43:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C816C106566C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 06:43:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F83F8FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 06:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyg7 with SMTP id 7so1789562eyg.13 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:43:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.5.74 with SMTP id 50mr3200266eek.141.1309070608844; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.48.80 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:43:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [76.104.147.221] In-Reply-To: <4E05CF72.2040800@snap.net.nz> References: <20110622134158.GA2679@e4310> <808833D7-FAD4-46E2-ACB6-71993AD048FB@my.gd> <4E05CF72.2040800@snap.net.nz> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:43:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: NFS zfs serveur (hardware question) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 06:43:30 -0000 On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Peter Toth wrote: > There is still a way to increase NFS performance in 9.0 (without a ZIL > SSD) by setting zfs property "sync=disabled", which will disable > synchronous writes - comes with some risks, research it before switching > it off. Also, this will only disable sync for the ZFS filesystem not for > the whole pool. Thanks, I'll look into that. I do appreciate that ZFS tries to be more careful about sync writes than most filesystems. But I also have users who expect "tar xvf" to complete in a reasonable amount of time, and having the ZIL enabled reduces file creation performance by a factor of ten. ;) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 07:42:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0806C1065677 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:42:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70EA8FC25 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p5Q7fwoQ086908 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:41:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p5Q7fmWS032523 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:41:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id p5Q7fjAW032492; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:41:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:41:45 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Joshua Isom Message-ID: <20110626074141.GB44024@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4E06180F.7090409@gmail.com> <16AE025C-EA55-45F3-8419-542228CE5AA4@my.gd> <4E06C2D1.4050601@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E06C2D1.4050601@gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:41:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: Damien Fleuriot , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Performance of a USB ZIL for ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:42:00 -0000 In the last episode (Jun 26), Joshua Isom said: > On 6/25/2011 9:32 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > > On 25 Jun 2011, at 19:17, Joshua Isom wrote: > >> I was wondering if anyone had tried using a decent USB flash drive for > >> the ZIL. I know it'd be hard finding one fast enough, but some from > >> patriot seem like they might be suitable for home use. Part of the > >> idea is to just minimize hard drive thrashing and the wear and tear > >> associated with it. If it helps prevent the drives from going bad, and > >> doesn't hurt performance too bad all the better. But if it's going to > >> hurt performance too much or not help prevent thrashing there isn't a > >> point. > > > > I stopped reading at the title. > > The answer is no. > > > > Grab a SSD for $80-120ish. > > Perhaps it would have helped to read the email. Part of the concern is > making sure the drives don't fail and not just throughput. > > Given that Kingston sells an SATA SSD for $40 that only gets writes at > 30mb/s write, and some USB drives might get up to 20mb/s. If I get two > drives and put them on different controllers, mirrored, I might get > acceptable performance. I may still loose performance, but if my drives > last a year longer, I can probably accept it. I'm ok with loosing some > performance, but I just don't want it dragging down the system. And if it > won't help the drives last longer there's no point. A seaparate ZIL isn't meant to extend the lifetime of the hard drives; it's meant to accelerate the speed of sync writes. Those are pretty infrequent themselves, unless you're an NFS server. You'll see a couple syncs per commit on a database server, but compared to the amount of regular reads and writes on your average system, you'll save under 1% of the writes by adding a fast ZIL. And remember, the ZIL is just a write log. Everything that gets written to it will get flushed to disk when zfs writes the next transaction group. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 08:17:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775171065673 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:17:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsimmons0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vx0-f182.google.com (mail-vx0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D788FC20 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxg33 with SMTP id 33so3956909vxg.13 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:17:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=W3Ba3QvLKbhBt5i3P7Usp9fNHPS+Fs5NsQKYqGp7wkc=; b=iEXNHao2tVxa4phSduepDXX7pm8A4l7YfmkVpyYSEhkPCg+e+qAYrFGn4JUnfJqne9 mGxJahMBo5e6AEicnbD+MwYqMOXe/N9LQrLftjKw3H+xj3CU9+awknRWTi0NNpOuoACI /A0oLTIZ77gNGaaxlQ0aTRv+iCECgt3tHR1gY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=lQ+7QR9q9bWnq6/H/blRxMxLlk9ptzICJfvU0bAIIFP1XkKFUgrgOQ3RgBJ3AAVdMp TiUFguzN2qGvVM4cBAl9aZmBaAQSgbH7np2Uh2pnWViV1g4R04+Q/lQDF5ygX8PVukmh T7/dr3Q1/crq3YLkvzo+sdpeK5rRqtqk+vGeM= Received: by 10.52.76.74 with SMTP id i10mr6756352vdw.128.1309076233718; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skynet.localnet (pool-108-28-47-226.washdc.fios.verizon.net [108.28.47.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o9sm2521937vbz.9.2011.06.26.01.17.12 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:17:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Simmons To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 04:17:11 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.38-8-generic; KDE/4.6.4; i686; ; ) References: <4E06180F.7090409@gmail.com> <4E06C2D1.4050601@gmail.com> <20110626074141.GB44024@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20110626074141.GB44024@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106260417.11482.rsimmons0@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Performance of a USB ZIL for ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rsimmons0@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:17:15 -0000 On 25 Jun 2011, at 19:17, Joshua Isom wrote: > I was wondering if anyone had tried using a decent USB flash drive for > the ZIL. I know it'd be hard finding one fast enough, but some from > patriot seem like they might be suitable for home use. Part of the > idea is to just minimize hard drive thrashing and the wear and tear > associated with it. If it helps prevent the drives from going bad, > and doesn't hurt performance too bad all the better. But if it's > going to hurt performance too much or not help prevent thrashing > there isn't a point. You question is a good one, but I think the reason for your question may be off. If you want the ZIL in a separate location it is to cut down on latency rather than "thrashing". See: http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Evil_Tuning_Guide#Disabling_the_ZIL_.28Don.27t.29 If your concern really really is "thrashing" please consider the cost of flash memory vs a hard drive. Replacing a bad hard drive is cheaper. After a cursory glance at newegg, you can see the price per MB for: HDD $0.09 USB flash $0.64 SSD $1.875 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 14:41:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D0D106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3248FC1A for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:41:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb11 with SMTP id 11so4881483iyb.13 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:41:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BXcSYGgtL3N1FQxLXIoUFD0Xk/fXuKBii7bv5nCfMA4=; b=Wr0jg6necQ2fGNPGBfRlJdfOCxbxZwBUFbYibpLVnO779rFNoiMjx00EFXNMegB9kz cP/wMjLEQvw/AqEtVR7C7aCmLcK+kXwT9+FMLsQgLMkrXAtG7K45SeGkzRNoL8nAne9+ ko2rtS4elA5OZX451ELXdrbsjjZK0DuZ/2eFo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=D5S3Ucd5uz3TUIrwSrnlkloiMMxFjF/ux+esjidz51z5Wyc/GQZW8lPCh26DReu2zO i2OBP6w6U8omPW+z0tGonALGCETGsJAdti4tZY7IgfCUHhMARg9ybRuCOfbWlmWy7s1+ rxKMFAiNbWrfXqr0Rx7EJwg6KaFmIrKgoWp0I= Received: by 10.231.114.226 with SMTP id f34mr5229922ibq.30.1309097515170; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jimmiejaz.org (bas2-toronto44-1242514460.dsl.bell.ca [74.15.68.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s2sm2527271ibe.18.2011.06.26.07.11.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E073E1F.8090509@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:11:43 -0400 From: Jimmie James User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110622 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: negative sbsize X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:41:48 -0000 After the last firefox update and flash, I've been getting thousands and thousands of "kernel: negative sbsize for uid = 1001" in my logs, and google appears to show a bug from 2001, http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27275 with no solution. Flash sites now crawl, hang firefox, midori and opera . I even updated sources and rebuilt world and kernel, and still getting the error/issues. firefox-5.0,1 linux-f10-flashplugin-10.3r181.26 nspluginwrapper-1.4.2 midori-0.3.6 opera-11.11 opera-linuxplugins-11.11 FreeBSD jimmiejaz.org 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Sun Jun 26 08:42:45 EDT 2011 jimmie@jimmiejaz.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FORTYTWO i386 Anyone have an idea what's going on or seeing this as well, and how to fix it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 15:57:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDD2106564A for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:57:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cybernautape@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879368FC14 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:57:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe6 with SMTP id 6so932471fxe.17 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:57:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dCD3dL+2mVO02w5GgYsz2RxtOc4xMm3/Bo+/lnSjnjw=; b=dIAjXu22aFE7D/qCX3wytkSREz4whwmNHEiAvaO98TQTcbnuyggEopWsyJF7xK+Sp0 gOBRFmJBbEdhbCmbAluyKxQPxjLNVTIn5a1NGE1rimxazzMc68eiOk6xq9QbsDVx4PmD oiguo61qtpGdd+tcvs845r5UIfCMnlEfuGUwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gXxtCL1H0RDbh9bxQ/ZdGThbsVUlEDpeS9mBm28N0GCtWp5U/2ga3yBOiyOxscCPUp UF9WATeq5N2cZ88uLle/bZg+YiCrjWhmGqMMymkZhKzsX+QhfbZi2dJ9s0VnxA8MPHqn g27gOkRF4iSs3LMxD5tWeb/+FgDmVlrn4uOpA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.7.8 with SMTP id b8mr2314222fab.19.1309102386501; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.122.199 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:33:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Edgar Rodolfo To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: I have a error in freebsd 8.2, an internal system error has ocurred X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:57:22 -0000 Hi guys!, i am new on freebsd, but i had installed freebsd 8.2 with graphical interface (gnome), i was very happy, but suddendly i saw a message, exactly the message said: we were not expecting has ocurred ..., look the photo, i don't understand exactly, 30 min the message appears, is dangerous the message? http://subefotos.com/ver/?46893c74c902254a3d7789bb38a6b457o.png From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:25:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7CE1065783 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wayne.mitchell.iz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EEB8FC18 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe6 with SMTP id 6so980007fxe.17 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:25:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=R6dLrf0q3CGjc3CMytZ7YFUZiiqH/Sa0AKTo53Jnnb0=; b=OVvrU/IZlyc0hDp+VN+RUHL5sB9QA++shFMsoDOjsaGuhrkFwaFm5bR0X1gOeIHPId MIUti0vdj9UOClvqZftChrO4h+C2xgIkZDlKk74w+neQODsPPGxn/ztDMHwxTZsD+0y/ bHXI+xHDQJar+vu82zreq4zk0ZX+oXtpEeJ6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=TDFobGiBcGRg9z3TFmlzLNxfS/qgHtvcErxR8El/nQRwIu23zgaTYP7+0c46i7LeNR OLdvNsgaXD3wxrKoNHHTErntvwVsOij3qvV07BD7oSmdFavPhvUrHAKcWIGJs3t8KSjb xyChS7iTV8lZShPUY5A3xpQPyRXkSdKk/Mah4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.53.84 with SMTP id l20mr7649644fag.48.1309111377967; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.96.133 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 11:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:02:57 +0100 Message-ID: From: wayne mitchell To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: cvs vs. DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:25:27 -0000 hey, be warned, you are dealing with a 'newbie' i have one machine that has internet access and another that does not both machines were installed with FreeBSD_RELEASE_8_1 with a DVD i am now using cvsup to upgrade the RELENG_8_1_RELEASE tree my second machine does not have working ethernet how do i transfer the updated ports tree to the other machine using only storage media (DVD, USB) my guess (hack) is to find all relavent files/data trees and simply copy over, then run necessary updates (portsdb, make world...) if that is correct then can you tell where those files are ? if not then how should i do this ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 18:55:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87939106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gyrd-se@thanelange.no) Received: from sakura.nani.no (sakura.nani.no [195.204.164.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E23B78FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 97873 invoked by uid 89); 26 Jun 2011 20:28:53 +0200 Received: from cm-84.208.141.195.getinternet.no (HELO parvati.thanelange.no) (gyrd-se@thanelange.no@84.208.141.195) by sakura.nani.no with SMTP; 26 Jun 2011 20:28:53 +0200 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:28:52 +0200 From: Gyrd Thane Lange To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20110626202852.6765f935@parvati.thanelange.no> In-Reply-To: <4e05220e.GBAaOafCcTgMjymv%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4D7F86D5012E084A@> <4e05220e.GBAaOafCcTgMjymv%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doug@safeport.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual Boot 8.2 and Windows 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:55:36 -0000 On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:47:26 -0700 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > doug@safeport.com wrote: > > > If FreeBSD can be installed in an extended partition, > > that would be a very useful howto. > > _Installing_ it in an "extended partition" is easy enough. > geom(8) understands "extended partitions" (although sysinstall > does not, so you need to install using Fixit# as for other > non-sysinstall cases such as ZFS). > > The problem is _booting_ it. The code in i386/boot2 and > lib/libstand is written to find the / (or /boot) FS on a > BSD partition of an fdisk "primary partition" (aka slice), > or in a GPT partition, and would need additions to handle > fdisk "extended partitions". Some years ago I ran into a similar problem. I ran out of primary partitions (using MBR-speak) and had to move FreeBSD into an extended partition. Here the simple patch I wrote for the FreeBSD boot loader: To update your source use: patch -d /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/libi386/ < boot_loader.diff The FreeBSD loader has since a very long time ago attempted to work with MBR extended partitions but a simple logical error has prevented it from succeeding: How it normally works. ----- | 1 | ----- | 2 | -- ----- | | | | ----- <- | 5 | ----- | | -- ----- | | | | ----- <- | 6 | ----- | | ----- How /boot/loader (incorrectly) works. ----- | 1 | ----- | 2 | -- ----- | | | | ----- <- | 5 | ----- | 6 | -- ----- | | | | ----- <- | 7 | ----- | 8 | ----- It has been a long time since I installed my system but I seem to remember that all that is required is to copy the /boot/loader binary from a patched system onto the newly installed one. (I have included a copy of my /boot/loader at the URL above.) The next challenge is to find a boot manager that will pick up FreeBSD in an extended partition. For myself I use a self patched GRUB. (GRUB also nearly worked out of the box, but had a different problem.) You're welcome to have those patches as well if you need them. Lastly I have the following in my kernel configuration file: include GENERIC ... nooptions GEOM_PART_BSD nooptions GEOM_PART_MBR options GEOM_BSD options GEOM_MBR That is because I am not fond of the new mangled device names, but prefer the old ones. Hope any of this helps. Best regards, Gyrd ^_^ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 19:16:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6A11065672 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5108FC12 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [89.204.137.249] (helo=tiny.Sisis.de.) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qauof-0005fz-UE; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:16:23 +0200 Received: from tiny.Sisis.de. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tiny.Sisis.de. (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p5QJHUIu001156; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:17:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by tiny.Sisis.de. (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p5QJHSvh001155; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:17:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: tiny.Sisis.de.: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:17:27 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: wayne mitchell Message-ID: <20110626191726.GA1142@tiny> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 89.204.137.249 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs vs. DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:16:25 -0000 El día Sunday, June 26, 2011 a las 07:02:57PM +0100, wayne mitchell escribió: > hey, > be warned, you are dealing with a 'newbie' > i have one machine that has internet access and another that does not > both machines were installed with FreeBSD_RELEASE_8_1 with a DVD > i am now using cvsup to upgrade the RELENG_8_1_RELEASE tree > > my second machine does not have working ethernet > > how do i transfer the updated ports tree to the other machine using > only storage media (DVD, USB) > > my guess (hack) is to find all relavent files/data trees and simply > copy over, then run necessary updates (portsdb, make world...) > > if that is correct then can you tell where those files are ? > > if not then how should i do this ? Hey, this is easy (because it is FreeBSD). # cd /var/db/pkg # ls > /tmp/pkgs # cd .... (you need some Gbyte of space there) # mkdir PKGDIR # cd PKGDIR # sh # while read pkgname; do pkg_create -Rnb $pkgname; done < /tmp/pkgs this will create a binary packages ready for installation of all your ports and other packages you have installed; move the result over with DVD/USB and install them with pkg_add(1M); HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 19:26:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23761065670 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EBA8FC1C for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id p5QJQUgY058131 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:26:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p5QJQUgY058131 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1309116391; bh=eKlHr7+/tLqFE6KQJDG5YMlvO0BS98BfKssO03/zc1A=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4E0787DE.1060606@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2026=20Jun=202011=2020:26:22=20+0100|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.18)=20Gecko/20110616=20Thunderbird/3.1.11|MIME-Version:=20 1.0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20cvs=20vs. =20DVD|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Con tent-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20pr otocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------ ------enigF6CDEB935C034E8AD81E2872"; b=ailh1lbd0Sadmczo9IAFw2f4kZ1Axg73OjBU/5O8SGxTyCCrP15b4NY05iz1OvTfY bdsJXpsfXBymiIiUCiCzGrW2a6AbXt1XKnoaPr8kprdWFX0jR4+l95o5yCPHYWd+9Z IWzWD2QqUn2wotcFkZVtTS2uA2C2VsRAs+kpHRfE= Message-ID: <4E0787DE.1060606@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:26:22 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF6CDEB935C034E8AD81E2872" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: cvs vs. DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:26:35 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF6CDEB935C034E8AD81E2872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26/06/2011 19:02, wayne mitchell wrote: > be warned, you are dealing with a 'newbie' > i have one machine that has internet access and another that does not > both machines were installed with FreeBSD_RELEASE_8_1 with a DVD > i am now using cvsup to upgrade the RELENG_8_1_RELEASE tree >=20 > my second machine does not have working ethernet >=20 > how do i transfer the updated ports tree to the other machine using > only storage media (DVD, USB) >=20 > my guess (hack) is to find all relavent files/data trees and simply > copy over, then run necessary updates (portsdb, make world...) >=20 > if that is correct then can you tell where those files are ? For updating the base system, you need only copy across everything under /usr/src -- you can then upgrade by building and installing world + kernel. Easiest way to copy that directory tree across is to make a tarball of it. Assuming you have a USB stick mounted at /mnt/usb, then: # cd /usr # tar -Jcvf /mnt/usb/usr-src.tar.xz src Then unmount the usb stick, and mount it on the other host. Extract the files by: # cd /usr # mv src src.old (or rm -rf src if you're feeling over-confident) # tar -xvf /mnt/usb/usr-src.tar.xz How to update your machine by compiling the system sources is well described in the Handbook, and there are instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING too. For updating ports, you can either copy /usr/ports in much the same way -- assuming you've kept all of the distfiles you're going to need still in /usr/ports/distfiles. Or you can create pkg tarballs for any port you have installed on your connected machine, plus pkgs for all of the dependencies. First make sure that everything on your connected machine is up to date: # portsnap fetch update (or csup, or whatever you prefer) # portmaster -a Then make packages of anything you want on the other machine, plus any dependencies thereof: # cd /mnt/usb # pkg_create -b -R foobar-1.2.3 Move the USB stick to the other machine and install the pkg, which will automatically include any dependencies not already installed: # pkg_add /mnt/usb/foobar-1.2.3.tbz This will work equally well for ports you've installed yourself from the ports tree, or for pkgs installed from the FreeBSD ftp servers[*]. It gets slightly tricky if you want to upgrade stuff via pkgs. I believe it should work if you install portmaster on your isolated machine, and then do: -- on the connected machine: # cd /mnt/usb # pkg_create -b -R foobar-1.2.3 (as before) # cp /usr/ports/INDEX-8 /mnt/usb -- move the usb stick over to the isolated machine and do: # cp /mnt/usb/INDEX-8 /usr/ports/INDEX-8 # portmaster -PP --local-packagedir=3D/mnt/usb \ --packages-local foobar-1.2.3 (Not tested -- but if it works the way I think it should, that will update foobar-1.2.3 and anything it depends on to the latest available versions) Cheers, Matthew [*] Verb. Sap. Mixing up stuff installed from a local ports tree and stuff installed from the pkg archives frequently leads to version clashes, wailing and gnashing of teeth. Unless you know exactly what you are doing, it's best to stick exclusively to one or other of those methods. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF6CDEB935C034E8AD81E2872 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk4Hh+UACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzz9QCfah9f68ROGTry+UMgbTvlLn67 R/cAn173S3rmYp/7dcRRxkkVVxluiEkj =/Xm/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF6CDEB935C034E8AD81E2872-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 19:59:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51581065670 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:59:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7788FC13 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.99]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id ADA0116B4A7; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:59:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:57:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:57:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@noos.6dollardialup.com To: wayne mitchell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs vs. DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:59:38 -0000 On Sun, 26 Jun 2011, wayne mitchell wrote: > hey, > be warned, you are dealing with a 'newbie' Be warned, I don't know the official best practices response. I'm just telling you what I would do^H^Htry in your circumstances. > i have one machine that has internet access and another that does not > both machines were installed with FreeBSD_RELEASE_8_1 with a DVD > i am now using cvsup to upgrade the RELENG_8_1_RELEASE tree > > my second machine does not have working ethernet > > how do i transfer the updated ports tree to the other machine using > only storage media (DVD, USB) This is assuming 1) You haven't crossed a major release number since you installed from disc on both. 2) you know how to make a dvd from a file system. Since you are going from BSD to BSD, you don't have to make ISOs, but it will do no harm if you do (and might even be good for you). In the updated machine go to /usr/src/ and make clean. The official right way, I think is to use backup to make the file you will write to DVD and restore on the netdead machine to recreate /usr/src/ from disc. tar + dd or cp might work. (backup and restore are commands, check them out) Then on the netdead machine do the make buildworld, make kernel, etc. to update the machine's system. The instructions are in /usr/src/UPDATING near the bottom. In /usr/ports/ (master machine) use portsclean -CDP. This should clean out all the working directories and the old versions of packages and distributions which are no longer necessary to recreate the ports you have installed. This is not strictly necessary, but there is no point in carrying over the deadwood. If you have a relatively young installation, on the other hand, this may not save much. Now you can do whatever you did (backup/restore), dd, etc. with the source tree to the ports tree. Then you can update ports on the slave machine, or hold off. The important thing is for the ports tree itself to be somewhat in sync with world. > my guess (hack) is to find all relavent files/data trees and simply > copy over, then run necessary updates (portsdb, make world...) Do not mess directly with the ports database (in /var/db/pkg) on either machine. Until you actually do some updates in ports, pkgdb, which deals with installed ports, will not change. > if that is correct then can you tell where those files are ? The whole ports tree is in /usr/ports/. This should include the distfiles and packages you have installed since you installed from disc. The whole source tree is in /usr/src/. It is possible to install from disc without installing either of these, but if you have been cvsup'ing or cvs source and ports on the netlive machine, it certainly has them. If you did not install them on the netdead machine, you can install the copies from the netlive machine without further ado. You can even delete them from the netdead machine (if they are there) on the netdead machine, and you will still have an operable system -- nothing in them is necessary to run. But if you have the disc space, I suggest you rename (mv) them until you know your update is successful. I suggest you go through the mergemaster both times in rebuilding the system on the netdead machine. It is almost impossible to keep configuration files sufficiently in sync to make copying /etc and /usr/local/ect a viable plan (moreover, it would certainly be wrong to do so if both machines are on a net, local or internet). > if not then how should i do this ? I think you are basically on the right track. This probably will work across major releases and with drastically different architectures between the machines, but caution on the target machine is in order. (Other than cleaning, this process should not involve anything remotely dangerous to the source machine.) -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 21:54:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2D8106566B for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deeptech71@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2C78FC0A for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so2225061gwb.13 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=exG9E354wbuAw8/+sTsNAQphUfSSJ0AAav3EYS13gfE=; b=tlBcdqll2KRlcRqsIxamJ0xK9q3sxmFzNOrm045jntuy2/W7qShyCvWpwKa+Q7+OBd XFu0oHbvhWpdfEnlvSM2Nf51mgVF+lMJzx5+IqyWEaKw9w0TFx/NNzoh4H+edy0lrTcI P8SYefGEA6cWEbN3axDw0OMcR4L/US3tQeLEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sNB7t4kSDWIQoXP5arVcc2kKyIK+FGSmBVnK7KkDxvb95kMW6vbf+tDVm20IDqa3PU Q4op93NpXASSs5OHDTlNUEVQhGHWYdvPNzbujUm3Xo/kdHHnx3oInfKC60FpX8J799aA sa/yBnS1XzhTYMy8bKEAiJOvwPalXyfQE96dU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.175.131 with SMTP id z3mr8246802yhl.499.1309123515778; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.202.135 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:25:15 +0200 Message-ID: From: "deeptech71@gmail.com" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: what is the RIGHT(TM) way to configure background DHCP? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:54:38 -0000 as of recent times, on my network, the DHCP server takes a very long time (>30s) to reply, slowing down the boot process. so i've decided to put the DHCP client in the background (via rc.conf) during the boot process. attempt 1: #background_dhclient="YES" #background_dhclient_sk0="YES" with this, the DHCP client isn't even started. attempt 2: #ifconfig_sk0="DHCP" #background_dhclient="YES" #background_dhclient_sk0="YES" with this, the DHCP client is started, but there is a 30s waiting time. (as if the background_dhclient and background_dhclient_ variables had no effect.) attempt 3: #ifconfig_sk0="DHCP" #defaultroute_delay="0" this works, but looks hacky. so what is the RIGHT(TM) way to configure a background DHCP client, and why? are any of the DHCP-client-related rc.conf options redundant/useless? btw, there is no example in /etc/defaults/rc.conf for ifconfig_="DHCP" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 26 22:21:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEC5106564A for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nnutipa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6788FC15 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxe6 with SMTP id 6so1052477fxe.17 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 15:21:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type; bh=+ehxbAw/7/4c7uEd9JbSJywUklysLJWHeqvWcV+jWwg=; b=TUliq/o+chSSKNMk+Jwm2jQz6zERGsJOkg3YcSPDMHfviavYDNjlqeY7uNgfOOE55m H2uNQjy70hQJQVcqF1mnROUqA8QLokFo+X1B/+S3Cj7+lD9E5tCa942Ssy04NsFQGIgb 7nVEQbZn+ZQnk8xiQTtVPnth/Em6MVHpZoGZ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; b=w+0YPFnfO1nNjxWLzna0UdZSbGvDMS+TQBSo9ZDzhg0MU3eKqKuhzcHyh8Dmtt3JER 8YHS4phKLE+9pb5GNVRhedC720e5F1I6zSSHmuGl09/EmCc6RgjE7c77CX0Wlx3Bq94F x1N1iFpcOu7G53bP9kXU5l8cl7J+YpbnZeoZg= Received: by 10.223.55.8 with SMTP id s8mr7808899fag.141.1309125282493; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] ([178.121.217.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h28sm3125113faj.29.2011.06.26.14.54.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E07AA9F.90509@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:54:39 +0300 From: NutipA User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080205010603090104070605" Cc: Subject: Traffic ignore security policies for SA in IPSec site-to-site connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:21:48 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080205010603090104070605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First af all, I apologize if I chose the wrong mailing list. I need to establish IPSec site-to-site connection between two offices as it shown below: LAN1 (192.168.1.0/24) | FreeBSD 8.2 (192.168.1.2) + ipfw NAT over PPTP(X.X.X.X) | | internet | | FreeBSD 8.2 (192.168.1.2) + ipfw NAT over PPPoE(X.X.X.X) | LAN2 (192.168.10.0/24) The connection between two gatways has been successfully established. All traffic between two VPN-gateways with global addresses X.X.X.X and Y.Y.Y.Y has been sucessfully encapsulated and encrypted. I see this traffic as packets with ESP headers in my sniffer. Then I added static routes to each LAN. But when I ping any private address in LAN2 from my computer (192.168.1.102) I see the next output in tcpdump on LAN1 gateway: 19:33:42.506971 IP X.X.X.X > Y.Y.Y.Y : IP 192.168.1.102 > 192.168.10.1: ICMP echo request, id 13941, seq 4, length 64 (ipip-proto-4) Traffic hasn't been encrypted and processed by ipsec! It has rather been placed only in gif-interface and of course remote site is not responding. So IP-packets ignore security policies for SA: 192.168.10.0/24[any] 192.168.1.0/24[any] any in ipsec esp/tunnel/Y.Y.Y.Y-X.X.X.X/use spid=6 seq=1 pid=23533 refcnt=1 192.168.1.0/24[any] 192.168.10.0/24[any] any out ipsec esp/tunnel/X.X.X.X-Y.Y.Y.Y/use spid=5 seq=0 pid=23533 refcnt=1 As I understand, the traffic from client machines in any direction should look like this: 21:34:16.486698 IP Y.Y.Y.Y > X.X.X.X: ESP(spi=0x043488c2,seq=0x66), length 116 Please help me to solve this strange problem. I have created a test environment (5 virtual machines) and everything was ok! The only difference was that the tests were run in a several private local networks, without ISP and pptp/pppoe-interfaces. Also, on the advice of other people I need to try it without gif-interface, but all my tests was made according by handbook article. P.S. 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mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CD91065678; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDC48FC0A; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SBHFISLREXT03 ([10.132.254.62]) by SCSFISLTC02 (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p5R0c1tm021346; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:38:01 -0500 Received: from sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM (Not Verified[10.132.248.121]) by SBHFISLREXT03 with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:38:31 -0500 Received: from sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM ([10.132.248.121]) by sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:38:00 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.104] ([10.132.254.136]) by sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:37:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: <20110423114253.GA5836@saltmine.radix.net> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:37:58 -0700 Message-Id: References: <02a701cc006a$887da210$9978e630$@vicor.com> <20110422145518.GA16734@freebsd.org> <20110422154146.GA26083@freebsd.org> <20110422173509.000077ba@unknown> <039f01cc010d$b476d0f0$1d6472d0$@vicor.com> <20110423085451.00002c29@unknown> <20110423114253.GA5836@saltmine.radix.net> To: Thomas Dickey X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jun 2011 00:38:00.0200 (UTC) FILETIME=[776D6880:01CC3462] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 01:46:51 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , Alexander Best , Devin Teske , FreeBSD Hackers , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: [UPDATE] host-setup(1): a dialog(1)-based utility for configuring FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:38:03 -0000 On Apr 23, 2011, at 4:42 AM, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 08:54:51AM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: >> On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 09:52:44 -0700 >> "Devin Teske" wrote: >>=20 >>> Looks like `--hline' is not supported anymore. Thinking this should >>> either be patched or documented in ERRATA/UPGRADING. >>=20 >> I think you mean UPDATING :) >=20 > perhaps. But reporting bugs is nicer than long discussion threads. I've released a new version of my host-setup utility. Available here: http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/download/host-setup.txt or here: http://druidbsd.sourceforge.net/ Now at version 3.2, here's the delta: - Added support for FreeBSD-9.x's new dialog(1) (which lacks `--hline' supp= ort). - Added support for /usr/ports/x11/Xdialog You can now execute this on the console or in X windows. Default is console, to execute in X windows, execute: host-setup -X --=20 Cheers, Devin Teske -> LEGAL DISCLAIMER <- This message contains confidential and proprietary information of the sender, and is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. 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Thank you. _____________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 02:52:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDAB1065670 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 02:52:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Received: from Elmer.dco.penx.com (elmer.dco.penx.com [174.46.214.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542A98FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 02:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Elmer.dco.penx.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p5R2q9OA094159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:52:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:52:09 -0600 (MDT) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@Elmer.dco.penx.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Using a "special" proxy for ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 02:52:13 -0000 I have a requirement where I need to archive ports used across twenty hosts for a year or more. I've decided to do this using Squid and to take advantage of Squid's cache when updating common ports across those hosts. (BTW, at another site I used rsync to sync /usr/ports/distfiles across the hosts to a local master site then specified _MASTER_SITES_DEFAULT in make.conf to a FTP server on the local site. That method works when the port is previously cached however if the file isn't in the cache and I simultaneously install the port across ten hosts, the port is fetched ten times. Sigh.) I have a Squid proxy installed that isn't meant for every-day/every-user use and requires authentication. (Users either go through another Squid proxy or direct.) The special Squid proxy works. No surprise there. Authentication works. No surprise there. What I need is a method to embed into make.conf a proxy specification for fetch. Setting the environment variable HTTP_PROXY from the login shell /is not/ preferred because the account is used by different administrators, I don't what the special proxy accidentally polluted with non-port stuff, and it would only create confusion. Setting http_proxy in make.conf does not work. .netrc doesn't appear to be a viable method (if it did, I could specify FETCH_ARGS in make.conf). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 06:17:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA84C1065672 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5356A8FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:17:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg24 with SMTP id 24so1607473wyg.13 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:17:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rjthehQ2xNa1mVIPT8idz+lzTxx97NayRXf+VEmg7NU=; b=iFMhC139vI2HFAeR07jZXtW0aKBmVpoj059pGFaHGvff0ZGxMt8k3ANw9GaksGBE1B lB8Xcs+i2Fw9DujAexrmA1BCrpb6k9aw/nVlllGp4b4Tk6LxrC6+tH/icqkH1I0oTN/v KHumCAQ+M4ql0tMhGTgNKozynQ1nvBfv4oyHU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=w8jWdiKCxNgk680tXBnpIlOwukI2go744RmFR2AZQKcmowtNPbY/pPhEydcTezZujV gdd+rVVpK1YeZDPcxNGkydy4iJDAUKgsz/9W4nAsDHimGipPk9ZNmv76WakNCx2I62Qm KjowaGjyPd2YgxU0LvUH3E7ySUEsEd+Tz2Nlg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.46.21 with SMTP id q21mr1933889web.113.1309155466894; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.46.7 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:17:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Subject: fubar'ed it good this time... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:17:48 -0000 Sitrep: Lenovo T61, dual booting WinXP and FreeBSD (amd64 8.1-RELEASE) on a 500gb drive. Just did a freebsd-update from 8.1 to 8.2, just doing the second boot to do 'freebsd-update install' for the second time, and got dumped into the mountroot prompt. AFAICT, I managed somehow to write something strange into /etc/fstab. Can't tell what it is, because during boot it passes by too quickly for me to read, and the boot process dumps me into the mountroot prompt. WinXP still boots just fine, and the FreeBSD boot manager is in place, and was working before the update. FreeBSD was booting just fine from /dev/ad0s2a, prior to running freebsd-update. Now, however, when I select f1 to boot FreeBSD, I get the boot menu, output from the boot process, and (as I've mentioned) then I get the mountroot prompt. I've even downloaded and burned the 8.2 live boot iso, but it says it can't find a hard drive from sysinstall - both the Fdisk and Label options say "No disks found! Please verify that your disk controller is being properly probed at boot time. See the Hardware guide on the Documentation menu for clues on diagnosing this type of problem." I get no love from the Fixit shell, either, with /dev being void of any reference to the hard drive - just acd0. I'm pretty sure that if I can mount the disk that I can just edit the cruft out of /etc/fstab, and it will all be fine, but I can't get there... Anyone have a thought on how to get this running? I've googled myself silly on this, and am getting nowhere. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 06:44:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42F11065670 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C238FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:44:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [93.104.94.201] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qb5Yi-00080D-7T; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:44:36 +0200 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p5R6ian1002468; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:44:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.4/8.14.3/Submit) id p5R6iYxh002467; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:44:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:44:34 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20110627064434.GA2435@tinyCurrent> References: <20110625045740.GA3383@tinyCurrent> <20110626002051.GA44024@dan.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20110626002051.GA44024@dan.emsphone.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 93.104.94.201 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 gives wrong -I dir X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:44:39 -0000 El día Saturday, June 25, 2011 a las 07:20:52PM -0500, Dan Nelson escribió: > Checking Solaris and SUSE Linux, I see a similar pair of directories: > > solaris$ pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 > -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include > > linux$ pkg-config --cflags glib-2.0 > -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include > > The /usr/lib* directory on each system contains a single file: glibconfig.h. > On FreeBSD, this file is in /usr/local/include/glib-2.0/ along with all the > other headers (headers don't belong in /lib/ anyway). I totally agree: headers don't belong there. The same is broken for: $ pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0 -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include....... matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 07:05:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DD5106564A for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thanhtoo99@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f202.google.com (mail-pv0-f202.google.com [74.125.83.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D1C8FC15 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvf33 with SMTP id 33so671650pvf.1 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:05:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+LenBZkHs66/epiAsljK852a+6fxHOmeOXM8Z67Mpeo=; b=Xhf+bPUvxybEV6Y3EMxWKfg8VQpj3koVJ/UpQZHaQahiZ7MhimKqnNJ2msezpbGokN neHo1s72H2nTHXckeaDn+krm5B7grLFkB3jN9h9XSC2Gzn+RYbJFzDDD56O7SH3wZhuN PzJoyPxQ2IwK89PkVHL0OzeuRDQYO09PX778Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ugSDB0sNa/nGYRBylaU8E9bjqE2+akBoqfR1xMe4kQqKsnsV0yM/bHmeBxFzWhh8De a+kw1UcxRApd2QQ887AjOaPsAoVp4JFHcrBlmQn3YDcRGpfCn2VjU+Xg2ikyFp8NlTDe tyZ007ADvIKCuB+X2YlpSfjGVHj8yTzm+/Fmc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.64.69 with SMTP id m5mr2515938pbs.383.1309156980750; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:13:00 +0630 Message-ID: From: Ko Htoo To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Ko Htoo has invited you to open a Google mail account X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:05:06 -0000 I've been using Gmail and thought you might like to try it out. 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Sign up Google Inc. | 1600 Ampitheatre Parkway | Mountain View, California 94043 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 09:56:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02EAD1065672 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930E98FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg24 with SMTP id 24so1740480wyg.13 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 02:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.6.197 with SMTP id y47mr2172907wes.55.1309168609852; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 02:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ei4sm3958217wbb.26.2011.06.27.02.56.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 27 Jun 2011 02:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E0853DF.1080407@my.gd> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:56:47 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Isom References: <4E06180F.7090409@gmail.com> <16AE025C-EA55-45F3-8419-542228CE5AA4@my.gd> <4E06C2D1.4050601@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E06C2D1.4050601@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Performance of a USB ZIL for ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:56:52 -0000 On 6/26/11 7:25 AM, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 6/25/2011 9:32 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> On 25 Jun 2011, at 19:17, Joshua Isom wrote: >> >>> I was wondering if anyone had tried using a decent USB flash drive >>> for the ZIL. I know it'd be hard finding one fast enough, but some >>> from patriot seem like they might be suitable for home use. Part of >>> the idea is to just minimize hard drive thrashing and the wear and >>> tear associated with it. If it helps prevent the drives from going >>> bad, and doesn't hurt performance too bad all the better. But if >>> it's going to hurt performance too much or not help prevent thrashing >>> there isn't a point. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> I stopped reading at the title. >> The answer is no. >> >> Grab a SSD for $80-120ish. > > > Perhaps it would have helped to read the email. Part of the concern is > making sure the drives don't fail and not just throughput. > > Given that Kingston sells an SATA SSD for $40 that only gets writes at > 30mb/s write, and some USB drives might get up to 20mb/s. If I get two > drives and put them on different controllers, mirrored, I might get > acceptable performance. I may still loose performance, but if my drives > last a year longer, I can probably accept it. I'm ok with loosing some > performance, but I just don't want it dragging down the system. And if > it won't help the drives last longer there's no point. What do you want to do here, data security or performance ? Having a dedicated ZIL is accepted to be a performance concern, more than security. Obviously you'll do as you please, but I'll tell you what: If you're going to play cheap and grab a USB key for your ZIL, don't be surprised when you lose your data and/or experience downtime because your key went boom, or the USB controller hung for a sec and your sync failed. This is data we're talking about, and considering you want a dedicated ZIL this is probably important and/or voluminous data. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 09:57:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71221065677 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm15-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DE3C8FC14 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2011 09:43:39 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.228] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2011 09:43:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1037.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2011 09:43:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 634012.59667.bm@omp1037.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 97683 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jun 2011 09:43:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1309167818; bh=NmYI8kkSFOBG096J/SvC5xc/rDbgsaoe3MoJGNdrP3U=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xKdVK9UWr6HbzRZDxZ15jpcSJeMLffHWv6ae+hvtGWZq89XXHRucM0d+ne1H5tneEjnGM7/7qrsgSLBuqgsaNJ6o+/bxRvSIZVfV3jjiKhcz9p2ubUUYJVKIsZL/2uZpT6CQK+EYrxj0iGSV71zA8BtVxQj+loDMBTElL3y/ZWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CbQHjLsIB9nyBlIR79di15y3V6snPDMkew18/+3OCBwH64ERIRdXQQ/OmMrlvH+LkuRC71nvrJD9kYgZP+3y142Y3KFiIn7guA+LuUvpsUmqsZHNa5Vvdh1ZR9bHDa6slXhBGQ/2SNwYmGHp6zkXOOv6qGz0MV1V7QUCW8JPo60=; X-YMail-OSG: KkS9d.wVM1nJF4dM7yb1pH_pdouPaKV1Mfbp0nlFB1dV2Zz pYO3NHrTDCLwKfnIeDppszmmIRykMdNyKYzOpjOB9_sWscLZkMDPyQtds4YY SVsZr5Ak2iFYILbLLOGsGGkurtVTECRF3GYWwTIBRVdtDyxpo6xQDH8ckqMO CSTsEFGBGtq9kAITbu9ZaCZ88M2vvfSMSl.OmrXeawUjjWiQD.i_BwKkAtO4 _jmLMGuTq9w_c4oiWwGUcMcQrL.g573H_3ljWM4L_kq1FIN1f4RZ16pjl7Pw NnZHVIGU9f7SUMs8c_QC2xeoed7c8URcB2IUeO6FlZzUphzXfnsUiDxvoB7C vQCCXWWjD27XUaTwIosDx84j1uvY8AtucTC.T7zo4NVO3QeTBoaDMKKmd2kQ ZM4QxB_U9PZpmSPoudB7Gsa2ZezJmgjUOiYngTdKJZp4- Received: from [76.108.201.66] by web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 02:43:38 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/572 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 References: Message-ID: <1309167818.80767.YahooMailRC@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 02:43:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: Lars Eighner , wayne mitchell In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs vs. DVD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:57:34 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Lars Eighner =0ATo: wayne mitchell = =0ACc: questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Sun, June 26, 2011 3:57:50 PM=0ASubjec= t: Re: cvs vs. DVD=0A=0AOn Sun, 26 Jun 2011, wayne mitchell wrote:=0A=0A> h= ey,=0A> be warned, you are dealing with a=A0 'newbie'=0A=0A=0ABe warned, I = don't know the official best practices response.=A0 I'm =0Ajust telling you= what I would do^H^Htry in your circumstances.=0A=0A> i have one machine th= at has internet access and another that does not=0A> both machines were ins= talled with FreeBSD_RELEASE_8_1 with a DVD=0A> i am now using cvsup to upgr= ade the RELENG_8_1_RELEASE tree=0A>=0A> my second machine does not have wor= king ethernet=0A>=0A> how do i transfer the updated ports tree to the other= machine using=0A> only storage media (DVD, USB)=0A=0AThis is assuming 1) Y= ou haven't crossed a major release number since you=0Ainstalled from disc o= n both. 2) you know how to make a dvd from a file=0Asystem.=A0 Since you ar= e going from BSD to BSD, you don't have to make ISOs,=0Abut it will do no h= arm if you do (and might even be good for you).=0A=0AIn the updated machine= go to /usr/src/ and make clean.=A0 The official right=0Away, I think is to= use backup to make the file you will write to DVD and=0Arestore on the net= dead machine to recreate /usr/src/ from disc. tar + dd or=0Acp might work. = (backup and restore are commands, check them out)=0A=0AThen on the netdead = machine do the make buildworld, make kernel, etc. to=0Aupdate the machine's= system.=A0 The instructions are in /usr/src/UPDATING near=0Athe bottom.=0A= =0AIn /usr/ports/ (master machine) use portsclean -CDP. This should clean o= ut=0Aall the working directories and the old versions of packages and=0Adis= tributions which are no longer necessary to recreate the ports you have=0Ai= nstalled.=A0 This is not strictly necessary, but there is no point in=0Acar= rying over the deadwood.=A0 If you have a relatively young installation,=0A= on the other hand, this may not save much.=0A=0ANow you can do whatever you= did (backup/restore), dd, etc. with the source=0Atree to the ports tree.= =A0 Then you can update ports on the slave machine, or=0Ahold off. The impo= rtant thing is for the ports tree itself to be somewhat=0Ain sync with worl= d.=0A=0A> my guess (hack) is to find all relavent files/data trees and simp= ly=0A> copy over, then run necessary updates (portsdb, make world...)=0A=0A= Do not mess directly with the ports database (in /var/db/pkg) on either=0Am= achine.=A0 Until you actually do some updates in ports, pkgdb, which=0Adeal= s with installed ports, will not change.=0A=0A> if that is correct then can= you tell where those files are ?=0A=0AThe whole ports tree is in /usr/port= s/.=A0 This should include the distfiles=0Aand packages you have installed = since you installed from disc.=A0 The=0Awhole source tree is in /usr/src/.= =A0 It is possible to install from disc=0Awithout installing either of thes= e, but if you have been cvsup'ing or cvs=0Asource and ports on the netlive = machine, it certainly has them.=A0 If you did=0Anot install them on the net= dead machine, you can install the copies from=0Athe netlive machine without= further ado.=A0 You can even delete them from=0Athe netdead machine (if th= ey are there) on the netdead machine, and you=0Awill still have an operable= system -- nothing in them is necessary to run.=0ABut if you have the disc = space, I suggest you rename (mv) them until you=0Aknow your update is succe= ssful.=A0 I suggest you go through the mergemaster=0Aboth times in rebuildi= ng the system on the netdead machine. It is almost=0Aimpossible to keep con= figuration files sufficiently in sync to make copying=0A/etc and /usr/local= /ect a viable plan (moreover, it would certainly be wrong=0Ato do so if bot= h machines are on a net, local or internet).=0A=0A=0A> if not then how shou= ld i do this ?=0A=0AI think you are basically on the right track.=0A=0AThis= probably will work across major releases and with drastically different=0A= architectures between the machines, but caution on the target machine is in= =0Aorder.=A0 (Other than cleaning, this process should not involve anything= =0Aremotely dangerous to the source machine.)=0A=0A-- =0ALars Eighner=0Ahtt= p://www.larseighner.com/index.html=0A8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5= 266=0A=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-question= s@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/free= bsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubsc= ribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0ACall me old-fashioned but with Ethernet cards = only costing $5 these days, what's =0Aholding you back from installing a NI= C in the other machine. This would simplify =0Aall your problems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 09:59:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFD4106566B for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF288FC22 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe6 with SMTP id 6so4271328wwe.31 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 02:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.20.84 with SMTP id e20mr5174449wbb.28.1309168780434; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 02:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fi5sm3957268wbb.56.2011.06.27.02.59.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 27 Jun 2011 02:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E08548A.9030505@my.gd> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:59:38 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: I have a error in freebsd 8.2, an internal system error has ocurred X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:59:42 -0000 On 6/26/11 5:33 PM, Edgar Rodolfo wrote: > Hi guys!, i am new on freebsd, but i had installed freebsd 8.2 with > graphical interface (gnome), i was very happy, but suddendly i saw a > message, exactly the message said: > we were not expecting has ocurred ..., look the photo, i don't > understand exactly, 30 min the message appears, is dangerous the > message? > > http://subefotos.com/ver/?46893c74c902254a3d7789bb38a6b457o.png > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hi, While I have no idea what it means and what its cause could be, this is a KDE error. You might want to check with them directly ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 10:04:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F8E1106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D608FC15 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg24 with SMTP id 24so1745765wyg.13 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 03:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.24.135 with SMTP id v7mr1982190wbb.11.1309169036828; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 03:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c17sm3961007wbh.46.2011.06.27.03.03.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 27 Jun 2011 03:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E08558A.7000101@my.gd> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:03:54 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: fubar'ed it good this time... 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Just did a freebsd-update from 8.1 to 8.2, just > doing the second boot to do 'freebsd-update install' for the second > time, and got dumped into the mountroot prompt. > > AFAICT, I managed somehow to write something strange into /etc/fstab. > Can't tell what it is, because during boot it passes by too quickly > for me to read, and the boot process dumps me into the mountroot > prompt. > > WinXP still boots just fine, and the FreeBSD boot manager is in place, > and was working before the update. > > FreeBSD was booting just fine from /dev/ad0s2a, prior to running freebsd-update. > > Now, however, when I select f1 to boot FreeBSD, I get the boot menu, > output from the boot process, and (as I've mentioned) then I get the > mountroot prompt. > > I've even downloaded and burned the 8.2 live boot iso, but it says it > can't find a hard drive from sysinstall - both the Fdisk and Label > options say > "No disks found! Please verify that your disk controller > is being properly probed at boot time. See the Hardware > guide on the Documentation menu for clues on > diagnosing this type of problem." > > I get no love from the Fixit shell, either, with /dev being void of > any reference to the hard drive - just acd0. > > I'm pretty sure that if I can mount the disk that I can just edit the > cruft out of /etc/fstab, and it will all be fine, but I can't get > there... > > Anyone have a thought on how to get this running? 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This > would simplify all your problems. --As for the rest, it is mine. I assume it's policy/security concerns, not technical. There are still reasons to want a machine air-gapped from the Internet, after all... Daniel T. Staal --------------------------------------------------------------- This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of local copyright law. --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 13:25:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE221065672 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:25:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Received: from Elmer.dco.penx.com (elmer.dco.penx.com [174.46.214.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36368FC0C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Elmer.dco.penx.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p5RDPCUf053923 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:25:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:25:12 -0600 (MDT) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@Elmer.dco.penx.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Using a "special" proxy for ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:25:16 -0000 On Sun, 26 Jun 2011, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > I have a requirement where I need to archive ports used across twenty hosts > for a year or more. I've decided to do this using Squid and to take advantage > of Squid's cache when updating common ports across those hosts. > > (BTW, at another site I used rsync to sync /usr/ports/distfiles across the > hosts to a local master site then specified _MASTER_SITES_DEFAULT in > make.conf to a FTP server on the local site. That method works when the port > is previously cached however if the file isn't in the cache and I > simultaneously install the port across ten hosts, the port is fetched ten > times. Sigh.) > > I have a Squid proxy installed that isn't meant for every-day/every-user use > and requires authentication. (Users either go through another Squid proxy or > direct.) The special Squid proxy works. No surprise there. Authentication > works. No surprise there. > > What I need is a method to embed into make.conf a proxy specification for > fetch. Setting the environment variable HTTP_PROXY from the login shell /is > not/ preferred because the account is used by different administrators, I > don't what the special proxy accidentally polluted with non-port stuff, and > it would only create confusion. > > Setting http_proxy in make.conf does not work. .netrc doesn't appear to be a > viable method (if it did, I could specify FETCH_ARGS in make.conf). > I forgot to mention that I also thought about redefining SHELL in make.conf to a small program that sets HTTP_PROXY in the environment then execs the desired target but I felt that approach was fraught with peril. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 13:26:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018BE106566B for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C9C8FC08 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwr19 with SMTP id 19so5696529iwr.13 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:26:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zDYOBVMZ64LM01lfSE4CcpFfypUq/zqelQiuXV3NSgs=; b=elVNAW1Y0mXDgtJ8sPmAkMR6TmgCr8t7xFVg9mobW7ciiqEeg7qeo1vat055op3JEh 31KYzW142skR7m1E1pENUjpRIwtsTGsoxJ556JgcA+WFzSj/Cj0m0H42WhfJCSHugIDQ r7M8inG8X9sCGNaNMDBmDPOmbBbcCa+wDlUqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DgVNttTVebQtt9iY33oPJAJA30fksrcbzfnyPwX8O/ndGxPEwX9bCxSIxpJMNuHd9d DoQYX6qr69C5ifga7FIIHaRRHm1UH/XDAs7ynVyY0WAyPEajHcIjQXAzWiV3r/bCwIaM JDz0j2i3D2GutaUxDgW611H0LnFnA8KCaw+r8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.50.16 with SMTP id x16mr6190540ibf.171.1309179817081; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.16.198 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:03:37 +0400 Message-ID: From: Pavel Timofeev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Installing php-fpm without apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:26:49 -0000 How can I install php-fpm without installing apache? Is it possible? [root@timp /usr/ports/lang/php5]# make showconfig ===> The following configuration options are available for php5-5.3.6_1: CLI=off "Build CLI version" CGI=off "Build CGI version" FPM=on "Build FPM version (experimental)" APACHE=off "Build Apache module" AP2FILTER=off " Use Apache 2.x filter interface (experimental)" DEBUG=off "Enable debug" SUHOSIN=off "Enable Suhosin protection system" MULTIBYTE=off "Enable zend multibyte support" IPV6=off "Enable ipv6 support" MAILHEAD=off "Enable mail header patch" LINKTHR=off "Link thread lib (for threaded extensions)" ===> Use 'make config' to modify these settings Only FPM is "on" [root@timp /usr/ports/lang/php5]# make missing www/apache13 textproc/libxml2 textproc/expat2 in spite of this I see apache13 as dependency From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 13:40:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399911065706 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8928FC28 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p5RDeFS1095620; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:40:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p5RDeF8s095617; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:40:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:40:15 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Kurt Buff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:40:16 -0600 (MDT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: fubar'ed it good this time... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:40:17 -0000 On Sun, 26 Jun 2011, Kurt Buff wrote: > Sitrep: Lenovo T61, dual booting WinXP and FreeBSD (amd64 8.1-RELEASE) > on a 500gb drive. Just did a freebsd-update from 8.1 to 8.2, just > doing the second boot to do 'freebsd-update install' for the second > time, and got dumped into the mountroot prompt. > > AFAICT, I managed somehow to write something strange into /etc/fstab. > Can't tell what it is, because during boot it passes by too quickly > for me to read, and the boot process dumps me into the mountroot > prompt. Scroll Lock and Page Up/Down should work there to scroll back to see the disk device numbers. > WinXP still boots just fine, and the FreeBSD boot manager is in place, > and was working before the update. > > FreeBSD was booting just fine from /dev/ad0s2a, prior to running freebsd-update. Don't know what would cause that. Custom kernels could have the ATA_STATIC_ID option removed, which might give the disk a different number, ad2 or ad4 usually. The BIOS could have AHCI mode set, but that should not change with 8.2. That would make the disk ada0. I second the suggestion of mfsBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 14:03:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC19F1065670 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timp87@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836258FC12 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwr19 with SMTP id 19so5736803iwr.13 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:03:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=f3avAJHduOuxpUNMzLY3hmYyyDHyx2K8PvdscGG9sZY=; b=ZoKATZ3yIA9yCrTyOcnqz+Z4xqJBqYAssVIkyNAJbkGbqk+uhEORGBeMK4iZHNHFt+ Xsfs591WEDe/brifIDCFbFdNfIV7gOu2AfRR+sfqksFHhehuGut4EN9pGhP0xtZ0ZzD/ QIG4mFhzXNEJegg0gDN+jinflBb6GfQBBhrMY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=B25TQcUDE0AY1BHpOTFkHayGG1a3I5ZPNEirV7XaYn50hNNY2CVKlNeJrARbW0jBwb wUaszl8AGZAMSvy2SCXPsQydmPyDfIiI5Wvxeia5sVGsp+kERVW8yXiyN3zPIaVEzOyZ ewq+GkVSCyJvsTNeFGGzrXpiA/4jZPDPz+rEs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.112.224 with SMTP id x32mr250070ibp.196.1309183414912; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.16.198 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:03:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:03:34 +0400 Message-ID: From: Pavel Timofeev To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Installing php-fpm without apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:03:35 -0000 I'm very sorry! I had vars like WITH_APACHE=foo in /etc/make.conf! It's ok in ports. 2011/6/27 Pavel Timofeev > How can I install php-fpm without installing apache? > Is it possible? > > [root@timp /usr/ports/lang/php5]# make showconfig > ===> The following configuration options are available for php5-5.3.6_1: > CLI=off "Build CLI version" > CGI=off "Build CGI version" > FPM=on "Build FPM version (experimental)" > APACHE=off "Build Apache module" > AP2FILTER=off " Use Apache 2.x filter interface (experimental)" > DEBUG=off "Enable debug" > SUHOSIN=off "Enable Suhosin protection system" > MULTIBYTE=off "Enable zend multibyte support" > IPV6=off "Enable ipv6 support" > MAILHEAD=off "Enable mail header patch" > LINKTHR=off "Link thread lib (for threaded extensions)" > ===> Use 'make config' to modify these settings > > Only FPM is "on" > > [root@timp /usr/ports/lang/php5]# make missing > www/apache13 > textproc/libxml2 > textproc/expat2 > > in spite of this I see apache13 as dependency > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 14:04:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC797106566B for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480508FC27 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe6 with SMTP id 6so4473670wwe.31 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:04:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VEJNukzB16PqfJnsJ5pkL0dKHThOEcNNLzJNugyD6gQ=; b=KVSsOkU9HnN9f4asn0sjQLBNyfBz47yREQI/TIwQm+s29Hg4895PDQJMeTypOqliNg r+AM6XQCYCt6CHKarehdGGXNOusDUyOWfLlCJY1go8cQfStcT9E9ZcZtxbceY3+kZpsW H7U/Ek2A+vTnZTl+jGZta/oecKVuJ3okbqODE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DVDQQZCqDnIFawnI+yY8BUIqeM4hQ5eOEz2HRQqqKyrnmDu+3mOksdClBl0DgrbmLy 4j3D1DICUMgFIeLI4EgXk7uToS64GUQJ+KLrvYOKWIUKlaoqpdWLtikAgIjQUm5O2BJC RZ30ZsyIItE3eINE3embATiM4w6QBXXUIedqA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.136.202 with SMTP id w52mr1972905wei.68.1309182027606; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.46.7 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:40:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E08558A.7000101@my.gd> References: <4E08558A.7000101@my.gd> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:40:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: fubar'ed it good this time... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:04:29 -0000 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 03:03, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 6/27/11 8:17 AM, Kurt Buff wrote: >> I've even downloaded and burned the 8.2 live boot iso, but it says it >> can't find a hard drive from sysinstall - both the Fdisk and Label >> options say >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"No disks found! Please verify that your disk contro= ller >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0is being properly probed at boot time. See the Hardw= are >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0guide on the Documentation menu for clues on >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0diagnosing this type of problem." >> >> I get no love from the Fixit shell, either, with /dev being void of >> any reference to the hard drive - just acd0. >> >> I'm pretty sure that if I can mount the disk that I can just edit the >> cruft out of /etc/fstab, and it will all be fine, but I can't get >> there... > > > You'll want to download a live CD with UFS support :) > > MFSBSD comes to mind: > > http://mfsbsd.vx.sk/ Your advice sounds reasonable, but that site seems devoted to zfs bootables= . I wonder if an 8.1 livefs iso will do the trick... Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 14:06:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85522106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FE38FC0A for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:06:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe6 with SMTP id 6so4475508wwe.31 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.138.16 with SMTP id y16mr1250876wbt.67.1309183586081; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o19sm4119112wbh.4.2011.06.27.07.06.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E088E5E.6000106@my.gd> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:06:22 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Using a "special" proxy for ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:06:27 -0000 On 6/27/11 4:52 AM, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > I have a requirement where I need to archive ports used across twenty > hosts for a year or more. I've decided to do this using Squid and to > take advantage of Squid's cache when updating common ports across those > hosts. > > (BTW, at another site I used rsync to sync /usr/ports/distfiles across > the hosts to a local master site then specified _MASTER_SITES_DEFAULT in > make.conf to a FTP server on the local site. That method works when the > port is previously cached however if the file isn't in the cache and I > simultaneously install the port across ten hosts, the port is fetched > ten times. Sigh.) > > I have a Squid proxy installed that isn't meant for every-day/every-user > use and requires authentication. (Users either go through another Squid > proxy or direct.) The special Squid proxy works. No surprise there. > Authentication works. No surprise there. > > What I need is a method to embed into make.conf a proxy specification > for fetch. Setting the environment variable HTTP_PROXY from the login > shell /is not/ preferred because the account is used by different > administrators, I don't what the special proxy accidentally polluted > with non-port stuff, and it would only create confusion. > > Setting http_proxy in make.conf does not work. .netrc doesn't appear to > be a viable method (if it did, I could specify FETCH_ARGS in make.conf). > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" What about using a NFS share for /usr/ports/distfiles ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 14:19:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7BA106566C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:19:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68798FC22 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:19:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe6 with SMTP id 6so4487902wwe.31 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:19:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kJTcwRTvfaSqrRw+m1hUEYn7jiEEcjNK6A4RlENpVbM=; b=oOXEjLoJMkW7r/kyEzFSApuWyOrldTdG0FwPuT8OExnc1SxKSNWA26wwmXje6NA1KT TR5OCg5tr+hnWvQ7iH6V0SmuvHxUwBaYRMjkwhDAgxcPJYf75sEFGxgVzh/oFcfdiCYh /UuYMqaBpdAvFBFvQLmyvaXfhUznCPeVchcZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OTJ+Frk4vYnDxmUBEm+qD7Sw70EHHGWtB0DU6/xgC7KGtYrSt8pNYBA8YvJ/F/L1bT r3YTyFzWRGTHsTEivCvPK8m+XxqUKKxCvs8/70/fim695sEDSpPXVtXeWiRMzV913B+6 SYMFjVKHG6OCaWirJBpQEluI1hkMPdys2j1HM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.217.7.3 with SMTP id z3mr5230706wes.68.1309184346313; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.46.7 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:19:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:19:06 -0700 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Fwd: fubar'ed it good this time... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:19:08 -0000 This should have gone to the list - sorry. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kurt Buff Date: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 07:17 Subject: Re: fubar'ed it good this time... To: Warren Block On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 06:40, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jun 2011, Kurt Buff wrote: > >> Sitrep: Lenovo T61, dual booting WinXP and FreeBSD (amd64 8.1-RELEASE) >> on a 500gb drive. Just did a freebsd-update from 8.1 to 8.2, just >> doing the second boot to do 'freebsd-update install' for the second >> time, and got dumped into the mountroot prompt. >> >> AFAICT, I managed somehow to write something strange into /etc/fstab. >> Can't tell what it is, because during boot it passes by too quickly >> for me to read, and the boot process dumps me into the mountroot >> prompt. > > Scroll Lock and Page Up/Down should work there to scroll back to see the > disk device numbers. Scroll lok and page up work, and what I see is the following, copied by han= d: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1c30-0x1c3f,0x1c20,0x1x2f at decive 31.2 on pci0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ata0: on atapci0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ata0: [ITHREAD] =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ata1: on atapci0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ata1: [ITHREAD] Then, at the end, I show: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ROOT MOUNT ERROR: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 If you have invalid mount options, reboot, and first thre the following from the loader prompt: etc. >> WinXP still boots just fine, and the FreeBSD boot manager is in place, >> and was working before the update. >> >> FreeBSD was booting just fine from /dev/ad0s2a, prior to running >> freebsd-update. > > Don't know what would cause that. =C2=A0Custom kernels could have the > ATA_STATIC_ID option removed, which might give the disk a different numbe= r, > ad2 or ad4 usually. > > The BIOS could have AHCI mode set, but that should not change with 8.2. T= hat > would make the disk ada0. > > I second the suggestion of mfsBSD. OK - when I get home from work, I'll download and see what that does for me= . Thanks, Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 14:27:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D231065670 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Received: from Elmer.dco.penx.com (elmer.dco.penx.com [174.46.214.165]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13968FC15 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Elmer.dco.penx.com (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p5RERk9J060873 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:27:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@penx.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:27:46 -0600 (MDT) From: Dennis Glatting X-X-Sender: dennisg@Elmer.dco.penx.com To: Damien Fleuriot In-Reply-To: <4E088E5E.6000106@my.gd> Message-ID: References: <4E088E5E.6000106@my.gd> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using a "special" proxy for ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:27:50 -0000 On Mon, 27 Jun 2011, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > On 6/27/11 4:52 AM, Dennis Glatting wrote: >> >> I have a requirement where I need to archive ports used across twenty >> hosts for a year or more. I've decided to do this using Squid and to >> take advantage of Squid's cache when updating common ports across those >> hosts. >> >> (BTW, at another site I used rsync to sync /usr/ports/distfiles across >> the hosts to a local master site then specified _MASTER_SITES_DEFAULT in >> make.conf to a FTP server on the local site. That method works when the >> port is previously cached however if the file isn't in the cache and I >> simultaneously install the port across ten hosts, the port is fetched >> ten times. Sigh.) >> >> I have a Squid proxy installed that isn't meant for every-day/every-user >> use and requires authentication. (Users either go through another Squid >> proxy or direct.) The special Squid proxy works. No surprise there. >> Authentication works. No surprise there. >> >> What I need is a method to embed into make.conf a proxy specification >> for fetch. Setting the environment variable HTTP_PROXY from the login >> shell /is not/ preferred because the account is used by different >> administrators, I don't what the special proxy accidentally polluted >> with non-port stuff, and it would only create confusion. >> >> Setting http_proxy in make.conf does not work. .netrc doesn't appear to >> be a viable method (if it did, I could specify FETCH_ARGS in make.conf). >> > > What about using a NFS share for /usr/ports/distfiles ? Many of these servers provide network/system services across a WAN. If a link goes down or is congested, NFS may hang them all. NFS also provides certain security challenges. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 14:46:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6D11065680 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49128FC17 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg24 with SMTP id 24so1971937wyg.13 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.196.208 with SMTP id eh16mr5583638wbb.37.1309185988646; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fr17sm4140412wbb.57.2011.06.27.07.46.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E0897BE.5030001@my.gd> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:46:22 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Glatting References: <4E088E5E.6000106@my.gd> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using a "special" proxy for ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:46:30 -0000 On 6/27/11 4:27 PM, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > > On Mon, 27 Jun 2011, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > >> On 6/27/11 4:52 AM, Dennis Glatting wrote: >>> >>> I have a requirement where I need to archive ports used across twenty >>> hosts for a year or more. I've decided to do this using Squid and to >>> take advantage of Squid's cache when updating common ports across those >>> hosts. >>> >>> (BTW, at another site I used rsync to sync /usr/ports/distfiles across >>> the hosts to a local master site then specified _MASTER_SITES_DEFAULT in >>> make.conf to a FTP server on the local site. That method works when the >>> port is previously cached however if the file isn't in the cache and I >>> simultaneously install the port across ten hosts, the port is fetched >>> ten times. Sigh.) >>> >>> I have a Squid proxy installed that isn't meant for every-day/every-user >>> use and requires authentication. (Users either go through another Squid >>> proxy or direct.) The special Squid proxy works. No surprise there. >>> Authentication works. No surprise there. >>> >>> What I need is a method to embed into make.conf a proxy specification >>> for fetch. Setting the environment variable HTTP_PROXY from the login >>> shell /is not/ preferred because the account is used by different >>> administrators, I do