From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 26 18:16:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0268016A4B3 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:16:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sage.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A4C43FA3 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:16:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (root@tao [10.0.0.247]) by sage.thought.org (8.12.9/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h9R2FU5G047134; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:15:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by thought.org (8.12.6/8.11.3) id h9R2FJ12064219; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:15:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:15:15 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Robin Schoonover Message-ID: <20031027021515.GA64154@tao.thought.org> References: <20031027012334.GA64027@tao.thought.org> <20031026183436.4c657664.end@endif.cjb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031026183436.4c657664.end@endif.cjb.net> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing 17 years of service to the Unix community User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: kline@thought.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pop3 and socket 110 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:16:14 -0000 On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 06:34:36PM -0700, Robin Schoonover wrote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:23:34 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Trying to install a GUI MUA has me wedged ... and lost!! > > > > I've been trying to get the mozilla mail/news suite to > > work for a long time--well, on and off! I finally > > installed cucipop on NS1.THOUGHT.ORG and tried to start it. > > > > root@ns1:/usr/local/etc/rc.d# /usr/local/libexec/cucipop -Y > > cucipop: Can't bind socket 110 > > > > Something is probably already listening on port 110. Check sockstat -l (if > it's FreeBSD, or check to see if something in inetd is grabbing it...). > Yep, altho I'm not sure why or how: root inetd 24764 7 tcp4 *:110 *:* I commented out pop3 and reinitialized; then the socket was 113. --This is a bit over my head; 113 is given to auth. Why is it grabbing the POP socket? > > > > NS1 had a valid IP address; my two other systems are internal, > > private, invisible from the outside. At any rate, after some > > pondering I altered the 'news and mail' configuration. Voila; > > mail *is* sent out (in HTML). But not received... (???) > > /var/mail/kline is my spool; mozilla can't see this for some > > reason. > > > > mozilla doesn't know about these sort of mailboxes. It only knows about > imap and pop3. > Thanks for the insight. Well, room for improvement... . > > > > evolution refuses to build because some of the GNOME libs > > won't upgrade. (Of my 400 ports, just 11 seem broken.) > > Can anybody recommend a GUI mail program that doesn't have > > so many dependencies? > > > > portupgrade might help your GNOME libs upgrade. Anyhow, I use > sylpheed-claws (basically the more cutting edge version of sylpheed). I used portupgrade for all but 11 of my out-of-date ports. It's great. Unfortunately, it can't fix broken code and I'm happy with ctwm ;-) > > > 1.) Do I really need pop3? > > If you want to use mozilla. > > > 2.) How do I get the mozilla mail to recognize the mail in my spool > > dir? > > You probably don't. > > > 3.) What is a decent MUA? > > that's debatable. I consider what I use to be decent :P > I'll give sylpheed a look. I really prefer discreet tools than bundled/bloat. Use mutt 99% of the time. So when I find a decent GUI client, I'm gonna rebuild mozilla sans' the mailer. thanks el-mucho! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix