Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:07:49 +1100 From: Sunnz <sunnzy@gmail.com> To: "Fintan Gaughan" <fgaughan@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top posting (off-topic) Message-ID: <b35fa3120711272307m1deeee1fl913c8b56c33e8a3f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <b346f5340711260137n460c15cat4912e432a5f20e3c@mail.gmail.com> References: <b346f5340711230103u68567d76ta92ff68eb5310fcc@mail.gmail.com> <200711231112.lANBCW1P004569@lurza.secnetix.de> <b346f5340711260137n460c15cat4912e432a5f20e3c@mail.gmail.com>
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I LOVE TOP POSTING!!! 2007/11/26, Fintan Gaughan <fgaughan@gmail.com>: > Oliver , > my post in between :-) > > > > On 23/11/2007, Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de> wrote: > > Fintan Gaughan wrote: > > > Well i am top posting cos gmail says so :-) > > > > gmail does not force you to top-post. (If it did, I would > > propose to ban gmail addresses from the mailing lists.) > > Go ahead , when replying it goes straight to the top.. how ever using > greasemonkey enabled you are not forced to top post. > > > > > > > From what i have been told that news group you don't top post but in > > > mail list such as this one its ok to top post. > > > > There's no such difference between news groups and mailing > > lists, at least from a user perspective. > > > To be honest using Mutt now that gmail enabled imap its much easier to > post in between or bottom post. > But when using gmail from web its easier to read top post. > > > > In fact, I do read the FreeBSD mailing lists via an NNTP > > gateway which stores them as news groups. I'm using a > > newsreader client to read them (ports/news/tin) instead > > of an email client. > > > > > Correct me if i am wrong but you can configure newsgroup reader to > > > scroll to bottom or post where with email clients you have to scroll > > > down to each one. > > > > I'm sorry but that's nonsense. It depends entirely on > > the kind of client software you're using, and how it is > > configured. It's _not_ a newsgroup vs. email thing. > > yes i agree with software using although i have never posted to a > newsgroup using the website but i would be suprised the default is top > post. > > > > > Apart from that, you're supposed to delete those parts > > of the quote that are irrelevant to your reply. You > > should keep only those parts that are required to > > understand the context. If you adhere to that rule, > > then the quoted text is small enough that having to > > scroll down is not a real issue. > > > > Those people who do not top-post, but don't delete any > > quoted text in a reasonable way either, aren't doing it > > right either. Normally you should _not_ see multiple > > pages of quoted text with tons of indentation. That's > > almost as bad as top-posting. > > > > In ancient times, everybody was posting correctly (i.e. > > with minimal but sufficient quoting, and writing the > > reply below). I guess because it was the most natural > > thing to do it that way, both for the person writing it > > and for the people reading it. The problem with top- > > posting started to appear when certain graphical clients > > started to become widely used which put the cursor at > > the top above the fully quote text, and users were too > > lazy to move down, delete irrelevant parts of the quote > > and write the answers below. Instead they just typed > > their text right away and klicked the "send" button. > > > > For example, almost the entire full quote that you you > > had below your reply was completely useless, confusing > > and a waste of space and bandwidth. > > > > Best regards > > Oliver > > > > Fair enough Oliver, but to be honest it does not bother me anyway > way, but how ever if there is a rule about top posting then i won't do > it. > But i am not going to lose sleep over this ... > > > Fintan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
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