From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 00:05:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C826716A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:05:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53907.mail.yahoo.com (web53907.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.217]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 53B2E43D45 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:05:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040919000544.16089.qmail@web53907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.34.130.149] by web53907.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:05:44 PDT Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:05:44 -0700 (PDT) From: stheg olloydson To: timh@tjhawkins.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:05:47 -0000 >From: > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns0.secureanonymous.com >X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org >X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] >X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tjhawkins.com >Subject: Please explain. > > >2 Major Issues: > >- FreeBSD has a processor affinity design issue > >- The core kernel issues with FreeBSD is the horrible threading >support.There is so much crap in FreeBSD kernel. The multithreading >issue in >freebsd has been delayed for nearly 6 years. They have just made work >arounds, not fixing the actual problem. It seems that the only real BSD >that >has made big progress on the core issues is DragonflyBSD. > >It appears that FreeBSD have a clear Multi-threading lock-in issue that >needs to be fixed. Not work arounds. According to many freebsd >developers >nobody simply wants to fix this, is it true that the current smp work >are >just 'work-arounds' not real fixing? > >The only thing holding FreeBSD back is the Multithreading issue. > >Please clarify this. Hello, Please clarify your post. You make many claims without any offering any examples. You claim, "FreeBSD has a processor affinity design issue". What exactly is the issue? Give an example, please. You claim, "There is so much crap in FreeBSD kernel. The multithreading issue in freebsd has been delayed for nearly 6 years. They have just made work arounds, not fixing the actual problem." To what "crap in the FreeBSD kernel" are you referring? Please post an example of the "horrible threading support" and how it should be done. How did you arrive at the time span of "6 years"? Who is this "They" that has "just made 'work-arounds' not real fixing?" Who are these "many freebsd developers" to whom you refer? Finally, you claim, "The only thing holding FreeBSD back is the Multithreading issue." Holding it back from what? Please explain the basis for your assertions so that the community may better answer them. Regards, Stheg BTW: Considering you're running a Windows-based OS, not a BSD-based one, why do you even care? _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 00:16:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EF216A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:16:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay15-dav15.bay15.hotmail.com [65.54.184.119]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D738F43D58 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:16:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shamsrdin@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:16:41 -0700 Received: from 68.0.32.29 by bay15-dav15.bay15.hotmail.com with DAV; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:16:41 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.0.32.29] X-Originating-Email: [shamsrdin@hotmail.com] X-Sender: shamsrdin@hotmail.com From: "Hotmail" To: Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:16:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2004 00:16:41.0798 (UTC) FILETIME=[F04ABE60:01C49DDD] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:16:42 -0000 Hi, I Bought from you FreeBSD 4.10 v, my main concern after I installed it = in my laptop I have trouble defining my network wireless card "Linksys = wireless -B" and the network, How can I do that?. Also Do I need the = device wi0?, and how can I find it? Sincerely, Ramez. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 00:20:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7220316A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:20:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net (rwcrmhc13.comcast.net [204.127.198.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5010443D55 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:20:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bung-foo@comcast.net) Received: from [10.0.1.7] (c-67-170-103-74.client.comcast.net[67.170.103.74]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2004091900204901500qkb1re> (Authid: bung-foo); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:20:53 +0000 Message-ID: <414CD0D3.2030802@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 17:20:35 -0700 From: Abe Olson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: winxp freebsd dual boot with freebsd on second HD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:20:53 -0000 In the handbook it says that, in cases where you have freebsd on the second disk and windows on the first, that you have to install the freebsd boot manager on both disks. I discovered this after I had installed freebsd. I am currently trying to install the freebsd boot manager on my first disk by following the instructions here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html The instructions say: "Other operating systems, in particular Windows® 95, have been known to overwrite an existing MBR with their own. If this happens to you, or you want to replace your existing MBR with the FreeBSD MBR then use the following command: # fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device Where device is the device that you boot from . . ." When I run this command, it asks me if I want to write a new boot block and then it asks me if I want to write a new partition table (We finally arrive at my question) Won't writing a partition table on my windows disk destroy the data on that disk? I tried saying no to writing a partition table but I still cannot boot both OS's from the first disk. Thanks for your time and knowledge folks. abe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 00:40:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810E316A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:40:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97BA243D45 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:40:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 30593 invoked by uid 65534); 19 Sep 2004 00:40:43 -0000 Received: from flb.schmalzbauer.de (EHLO cale.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de) (62.245.232.135) by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 19 Sep 2004 02:40:43 +0200 X-Authenticated: #301138 From: Emanuel Strobl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:40:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <00d001c49dd4$7382dc40$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> In-Reply-To: <00d001c49dd4$7382dc40$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> X-OS: FreeBSD X-Birthday: 10/06/72 X-Address: Munich, 80686 X-Tel: +49 89 18947781 X-CelPhone: +49 173 9967781 X-Country: Germany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200409190240.41508.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org cc: timh@tjhawkins.com Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:40:45 -0000 Am Sonntag, 19. September 2004 01:08 schrieb timh@tjhawkins.com: > 2 Major Issues: > > - FreeBSD has a processor affinity design issue > > - The core kernel issues with FreeBSD is the horrible threading > support.There is so much crap in FreeBSD kernel. The multithreading issue > in freebsd has been delayed for nearly 6 years. They have just made work > arounds, not fixing the actual problem. It seems that the only real BSD > that has made big progress on the core issues is DragonflyBSD. > > It appears that FreeBSD have a clear Multi-threading lock-in issue that > needs to be fixed. Not work arounds. According to many freebsd developers > nobody simply wants to fix this, is it true that the current smp work are > just 'work-arounds' not real fixing? > > The only thing holding FreeBSD back is the Multithreading issue. > > Please clarify this. Why should one answer to this email? Use what ever you think qualifies your needs! > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 01:09:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B3316A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:09:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from invasion.mail.pas.earthlink.net (invasion.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B318D43D45; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:09:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from steveb99@earthlink.net) Received: from w072.z064003114.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net ([64.3.114.72] helo=venice) by invasion.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C8qCW-0007zu-7D; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:09:12 -0700 From: "steveb99" To: Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:09:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <200409190240.41508.Emanuel.Strobl@gmx.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Thread-Index: AcSd4W57wNcqTUxxQO6+ayVJMWaJXgAAif2A X-ELNK-Trace: 61319303532569511aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7947053bb0cf5c1ac745376250e3be494d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.3.114.72 Message-Id: <20040919010912.B318D43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org cc: timh@tjhawkins.com Subject: RE: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:09:12 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Emanuel Strobl > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:41 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; freebsd-smp@freebsd.org; > timh@tjhawkins.com > Subject: Re: Please explain. > > Am Sonntag, 19. September 2004 01:08 schrieb timh@tjhawkins.com: > > 2 Major Issues: > > Why should one answer to this email? Use what ever you think > qualifies your needs! > Just a troll, look at all the cross-posting. Steve Barnette From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 01:11:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB98E16A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:11:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.texas.rr.com [24.93.47.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7173243D41 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:11:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from shelton@onr.com) Received: from onr.com (cpe-67-10-101-144.elp.rr.com [67.10.101.144]) i8J1BQt1028355 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:11:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <414CDC93.9020603@onr.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 19:10:43 -0600 From: John Shelton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: kernel ident X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:11:29 -0000 the kernel configuration file contains the option 'ident.' is the value of ident hardcoded into the kernel? just curious. thanks. -- ~rick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 01:30:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CEB16A551 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:30:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB6E43D1F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:30:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robg.list@gmail.com) Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so648445rnk for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.15.66 with SMTP id 66mr583197rno; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.83.59 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5c389d3b04091818304d4e283a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:30:25 -0400 From: robg To: f-questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Recompiling `world` throws Segmentation fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: robg List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:30:26 -0000 Hi: I updated my source code to 4.10 and went to recompile world using `make buildworld` and it prints this out: gzip -cn /usr/src/usr.sbin/pccard/pccardd/pccard.conf.5 > pccard.conf.5.gz gzip -cn /usr/src/usr.sbin/pccard/pccardd/pccardd.8 > pccardd.8.gz Segmentation fault (core dumped) *** Error code 139 Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/pccard. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. 35218# Could someone tell me how to fix this? -- robg robg.list@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 01:49:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2C316A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:49:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4CC43D41 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:49:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8408569A71; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:49:46 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: robg Message-Id: <20040918214946.68fd0337.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <5c389d3b04091818304d4e283a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5c389d3b04091818304d4e283a@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recompiling `world` throws Segmentation fault X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:49:51 -0000 robg wrote: > Hi: > > I updated my source code to 4.10 and went to recompile world using > `make buildworld` and it prints this out: > > > gzip -cn /usr/src/usr.sbin/pccard/pccardd/pccard.conf.5 > pccard.conf.5.gz > gzip -cn /usr/src/usr.sbin/pccard/pccardd/pccardd.8 > pccardd.8.gz > Segmentation fault (core dumped) > *** Error code 139 > > Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin/pccard. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/usr.sbin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > 35218# > > Could someone tell me how to fix this? There is a FAQ entry on this, but the short answer is: If you try to make world multiple times, and it segfaults at a different part of the process each time, it's probably faulty hardware. See the FreeBSD FAQ for more information. Also, download and run something along the lines of memtest86 to see if your RAM is reliable. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 01:58:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA1316A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:58:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53908.mail.yahoo.com (web53908.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFE6F43D45 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:58:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040919015801.37222.qmail@web53908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.34.130.149] by web53908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:58:01 PDT Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:58:01 -0700 (PDT) From: stheg olloydson To: timh@tjhawkins.com In-Reply-To: <00da01c49dde$3074fb90$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:58:02 -0000 Plesae, excuse the messiness of the reply to a poster using MS's broken formatting. --- timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: > processor affinity design issue.. i.e.. processes stay on the cpu > they are > spawned on..which is a big problem for mysql which explains why it > performs > better on other systems. > > Furthermore, the SMP issue is a common problem among many FreeBSD > developers > whom have told me the same, there is alot of this information all > over the > internet. FreeBSD is unable to perform good on multiple CPUs, the > fixes are > just work arounds. > > Unless if the freebsd community has just started to fix the > multithreading > issue, it's a huge problem. Darwin does not have this problem > whatsoever. > > Why do I care? This is a silly question. I have 2 windows PCs here, I > have 9 > other workstations that all run unix. I am a server manager and I do > consulting work for freebsd/linux. Windows came free so why not? I > don't do > business on it. > > I've been a really huge FreeBSD supporter.. but I am really concerned > about > this issue which has been an issue for so long. > > thanks, > tim h. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "stheg olloydson" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:05 PM > Subject: Re: Please explain. > > >> >>>From: >>> >>>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 >>>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >>>X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns0.secureanonymous.com >>>X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org >>>X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] >>>X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tjhawkins.com >>>Subject: Please explain. >>> >>> >>>2 Major Issues: >>> >>>- FreeBSD has a processor affinity design issue >>> >>>- The core kernel issues with FreeBSD is the horrible threading >>>support.There is so much crap in FreeBSD kernel. The > multithreading >>>issue in >>>freebsd has been delayed for nearly 6 years. They have just made > work >>>arounds, not fixing the actual problem. It seems that the only > real BSD that >>>has made big progress on the core issues is DragonflyBSD. >>> >>>It appears that FreeBSD have a clear Multi-threading lock-in issue >> that >>>needs to be fixed. Not work arounds. According to many freebsd >>>developers >>>nobody simply wants to fix this, is it true that the current smp > work >>>are >>>just 'work-arounds' not real fixing? >>> >>>The only thing holding FreeBSD back is the Multithreading issue. >>> >>>Please clarify this. >> >> Hello, >> >> Please clarify your post. You make many claims without any offering >> any examples. >> You claim, "FreeBSD has a processor affinity design issue". What >> exactly is the issue? Give an example, please. >> You claim, "There is so much crap in FreeBSD kernel. The >>multithreading issue in freebsd has been delayed for nearly 6 years. >> They have just made work arounds, not fixing the actual problem." To >> what "crap in the FreeBSD kernel" are you referring? Please post an >> example of the "horrible threading support" and how it should be >>done. How did you arrive at the time span of "6 years"? Who is this >>"They" that has "just made 'work-arounds' not real fixing?" Who are >>these "many >>freebsd developers" to whom you refer? Finally, you >>claim, "The only >> thing holding FreeBSD back is the Multithreading >>issue." Holding it >> back from what? >> Please explain the basis for your assertions so that the community >> may better answer them. >> >> Regards, >> >> Stheg >> >> BTW: Considering you're running a Windows-based OS, not a BSD-based >> one, why do you even care? Hello, Because you failed to offer any proof of your assertions other than repeating them, albeit with the addition of the vague statement that "there is alot [sic] of this information all over the internet [sic]" (which, if were true, begs the questions why are you asking here then), I cannot put any stock in your claims. My apologies to the community for rising to the troll. Yours truly, Stheg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 02:14:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEB316A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:14:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns0.secureanonymous.com (tjhawkins.com [64.232.254.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E2F43D2D; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:14:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timh@tjhawkins.com) Received: from cdm-66-76-83-77.fayt.cox-internet.com ([66.76.83.77] helo=yourw92p4bhlzg) by ns0.secureanonymous.com with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C8qIt-0005N6-LH; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:15:47 -0500 Message-ID: <010801c49dee$72cc5eb0$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> From: To: , , Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:14:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns0.secureanonymous.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tjhawkins.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:14:54 -0000 Ask the FreeBSD developers, any of them with honesty should tell you or proof me false. I dare you to proof this false, I would be so happy if you did. Just because I'm using MS Mailer does not reflect whom I am. I have only 1 MS workstation with 9 others unix. I expected a mature response from most of you, calling names is NOT the way to resolve problems. I just want an answer to see if this is true. **Is it true**? This is what I've noticed myself and many high-scale developers. Thank you ----- Original Message ----- From: "steveb99" To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 8:09 PM Subject: RE: Please explain. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > > Emanuel Strobl > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:41 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; freebsd-smp@freebsd.org; > > timh@tjhawkins.com > > Subject: Re: Please explain. > > > > Am Sonntag, 19. September 2004 01:08 schrieb timh@tjhawkins.com: > > > 2 Major Issues: > > > > Why should one answer to this email? Use what ever you think > > qualifies your needs! > > > > Just a troll, look at all the cross-posting. > > Steve Barnette > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 02:22:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482D916A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:22:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts10.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F206543D31; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:22:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dashevil@sympatico.ca) Received: from [192.168.2.32] ([67.68.38.73]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net ESMTP <20040919022233.TAPJ29920.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.2.32]>; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:22:33 -0400 From: Chris Laverdure To: timh@tjhawkins.com In-Reply-To: <010801c49dee$72cc5eb0$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> References: <010801c49dee$72cc5eb0$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1095546154.671.6.camel@elemental.DashEvil> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:22:34 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:22:35 -0000 On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 02:14, timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: > Ask the FreeBSD developers, any of them with honesty should tell you or > proof me false. I dare you to proof this false, I would be so happy if you > did. Just because I'm using MS Mailer does not reflect whom I am. I have > only 1 MS workstation with 9 others unix. > > I expected a mature response from most of you, calling names is NOT the way > to resolve problems. I just want an answer to see if this is true. > > **Is it true**? This is what I've noticed myself and many high-scale > developers. > > Thank you 1) The burden of proof is on the person making the allegations. 2) Calling a troll on being a troll is mature. 3) If you believe it to be true, then don't use FreeBSD. Nobody is tying your hands here. You believe DragonFlyBSD to be superior? Then use it. Maybe I just don't see the big deal here, but the developers owe you nothing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 02:30:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6FC16A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:30:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns0.secureanonymous.com (tjhawkins.com [64.232.254.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B03E43D49; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:30:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from timh@tjhawkins.com) Received: from cdm-66-76-83-77.fayt.cox-internet.com ([66.76.83.77] helo=yourw92p4bhlzg) by ns0.secureanonymous.com with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C8qY8-0006dN-40; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:31:32 -0500 Message-ID: <010e01c49df0$a5b79400$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> From: To: "Chris Laverdure" References: <010801c49dee$72cc5eb0$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> <1095546154.671.6.camel@elemental.DashEvil> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:30:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns0.secureanonymous.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tjhawkins.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:30:38 -0000 Your taking it the wrong way, I was simply asking a question to the developers to confirm this. I have standardized on FreeBSD. I apologized if I made it seem like I was trolling, not my intention. If a business were to standardize on FreeBSD, they would love to know if the multithreading issues would be fixed completely correctly not just 'work-arounds'. sorry and thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Laverdure" To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Please explain. > On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 02:14, timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: > > Ask the FreeBSD developers, any of them with honesty should tell you or > > proof me false. I dare you to proof this false, I would be so happy if you > > did. Just because I'm using MS Mailer does not reflect whom I am. I have > > only 1 MS workstation with 9 others unix. > > > > I expected a mature response from most of you, calling names is NOT the way > > to resolve problems. I just want an answer to see if this is true. > > > > **Is it true**? This is what I've noticed myself and many high-scale > > developers. > > > > Thank you > > 1) The burden of proof is on the person making the allegations. > > 2) Calling a troll on being a troll is mature. > > 3) If you believe it to be true, then don't use FreeBSD. Nobody is tying > your hands here. You believe DragonFlyBSD to be superior? Then use it. > > Maybe I just don't see the big deal here, but the developers owe you > nothing. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 02:44:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B3616A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:44:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wingfoot.org (caduceus.wingfoot.org [64.32.179.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABA943D1F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:44:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ges+lists@wingfoot.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C8E1F446D for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wingfoot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (caduceus.wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 72074-07 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [64.32.179.50]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62081F446C for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:44:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <414CF27E.60709@wingfoot.org> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:44:14 -0400 From: Glenn Sieb Organization: Wingfoot Organization User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Thunderbird/0.8 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at wingfoot.org Subject: DVD question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:44:16 -0000 Hey list! I'm a BSD guy for servers & such. My own server (wingfoot) runs 4.10-STABLE, and my last job was 95% FreeBSD in the data center. I'm getting sick of Windows on my desktop at home. (No kidding, right?!) I'd really really really love to move my desktop to FBSD. One thing is really holding me back. In Windows, I have Roxio Easy Media Creator 7, which allows me to manipulate AVI/MPEG streams, and format a DVD video disc and burn it, using my nifty TDK DVD 8x +/-RW drive. I'm pretty sure I can find AVI/MPEG editing packages for BSD easy enough. But I'm having a dickens of a time finding something that will let me author DVDs. Any pointing in directions or help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, everyone, in advance! Best, Glenn -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 03:54:50 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F4B16A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 03:54:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web14605.mail.yahoo.com (web14605.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E6A043D2D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 03:54:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from plageotakes@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040919035450.52415.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.134.154.39] by web14605.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:54:50 PDT Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 20:54:50 -0700 (PDT) From: peter lageotakes To: "Björn" "Lindström" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: FreeBSD firewall for lazy people X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 03:54:50 -0000 --- Björn Lindström wrote: > I'm finding that configuring firewall/NAT rules on > the gateway to my PPP > connection is too much of a headache. > > Are there any FreeBSD based firewall distributions, > something like > http://thewall.sourceforge.net/, but with some sort > of wrapper (web > interface, curses interface, or whatever) for > configuring pppoe, ipfw, > NAT etc.? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > http://m0n0.ch/wall/ www.closedbsd.org __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 04:10:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E733116A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:10:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F8343D31 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:10:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i8J4B7W20113; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Martin Moeller" , Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:11:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20040917134014.GA432@tyr.systh.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:10:53 -0000 Go buy a HP Laserjet 4M+ that's used. For starters the things are indestructible you might have to do a feed roller replacement at 50,000 prints, but other than that you just keep putting toner and paper in it. They are dirt cheap used and the remanufactured toner cartridges for them are also dirt cheap. The PostScript is real PostScript. They take an internal print server card that is also dirt cheap on the used market. The problem with the cheapie Laserprinters like the 6L is they will fall apart after a few thousand prints, their toner cartridges are tiny which necessitates frequent replacement. Keep in mind the printer companies have 2 markets they serve. The first is the commercial market who cares about things like per-page costs. The second is the retail market comprised mostly of morons who only buy what's on sale and couldn't calculate a per-page cost. Customers in the first market are quite willing to pay a higher initial cost for the printer if the supplies are lower priced or more economical because it drops the per-page cost. Thus, a printer that costs $199 that has a toner cartridge that only prints 500 copies, and costs $100 to replace, will be ignored in favor of a printer that costs $1000 that has a toner cartridge that prints 3000 copies and costs $100 to replace. Customers in the second market will ignore a $999 printer and buy the $199 printer. This describes most retail customers to a T. Now, it probably costs the printer manufacturer about $150.00 to manufacture either the $1000 printer or the $199 printer. So, to maintain profitability on the $199 printers, they give away the printer and make the money on the toner cartridges. The 4+ was in the business classification when it was new. Thus you get the benefit of a $1000 printer that was designed for low page counts, for a low cost initial price. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Martin Moeller > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 6:40 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD > > > Hi all, > > I'm planning to buy a new printer, because the results with my > Canon S500 are > total crap. I guess a laser printer is the best choice for Unix, and I'm > wondering which one I should buy. > > I thought about the HP Laserjet 6L or something in this category. > Any advice? > > Thanks! > Martin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 04:29:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596F816A4D0 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:29:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gw.visp.com.au (gw.visp.com.au [202.6.158.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAF343D46 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:29:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Received: from bofh.spyderweb.com.au (dsl-173.163.240.220.lns02-waym-adl.dsl.comindico.com.au [220.240.163.173]) by gw.visp.com.au (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i8J4TBvN091339 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:59:13 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Received: from spyderweb.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1])i8J4RZu4035133 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:57:39 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from tim@spyderweb.com.au) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:57:35 +0930 From: Tim Aslat To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040919135735.47ecd56e@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> In-Reply-To: References: <20040917134014.GA432@tyr.systh.org> Organization: Spyderweb Consulting X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12a (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:29:12 -0000 In the immortal words of "Ted Mittelstaedt" ... > Go buy a HP Laserjet 4M+ that's used. For starters the things are > indestructible > you might have to do a feed roller replacement at 50,000 prints, but > other than > that you just keep putting toner and paper in it. They are dirt cheap > used and > the remanufactured toner cartridges for them are also dirt cheap. The > PostScript > is real PostScript. They take an internal print server card that is > also dirt > cheap on the used market. I agree. I have one of these given to me, and I have to admit, it's basically wonderful. Everything works with it, it spits out pages perfectly every time. It's a bit slow to warm up, but that's bearable considering all it's benefits. I'm up to around 4000 pages since I bought a toner for it, and I will probably just get a refill cartridge for less than AU$50. You can usually pick these units up at auction for around the $20 mark, or sometimes less. Mine came with a second paper tray and a jet-direct card, and I'm sure there are other nice extras that people are willing to include just to take it off their hands. Cheers Tim -- Tim Aslat Spyderweb Consulting http://www.spyderweb.com.au Phone: +61 0401088479 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 04:48:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A701A16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:48:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net (rwcrmhc12.comcast.net [216.148.227.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8381E43D2F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:48:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from michael2043@comcast.net) Received: from server (c-24-10-148-239.client.comcast.net[24.10.148.239]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <2004091904480001400fcd1ee>; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:48:00 +0000 From: "Michael G. Goodell" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:48:33 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: KDE / kdegraphics3 Build Failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: michael2043@comcast.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:48:00 -0000 When I did a make "install clean" on the /usr/ports/x11/kde3 port it built for a quite a while then died with this error: /usr/local/include/kjs/lookup.h:96: warning: non-static const member `const char* const KJS::HashTable::sbase' in class without a constructor gmake[3]: *** [SVGColorProfileElement.lo] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/kdegraphics3/work/kdegraphics-3.3.0/ksvg/dom' gmake[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/kdegraphics3/work/kdegraphics-3.3.0/ksvg' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/kdegraphics3/work/kdegraphics-3.3.0' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/kdegraphics3. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde3. I was told that I should replace the file /usr/include/sys/endian.h with a new one that was emailed to me by a maintainer. It seems to have worked ok but my question is this: I did a complete cvsup update just prior to building kde3 and built he kernel and world on: Aug 27 22:24:12 MDT 2004 - would not have rebuilding my kernel / cvsup fetched this new endian.h file? If not why? I hope I posted this OK - I am new to the mailing list thing. Thanks, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 04:55:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4584B16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:55:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53905.mail.yahoo.com (web53905.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.215]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A162643D2D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:55:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040919045526.22268.qmail@web53905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.34.130.149] by web53905.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:55:26 PDT Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:55:26 -0700 (PDT) From: stheg olloydson To: shamsrdin@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:55:27 -0000 It was said: >Hi, > > I Bought from you FreeBSD 4.10 v, my main concern after I installed it >in my laptop I have trouble defining my network wireless card "Linksys >wireless -B" and the network, How can I do that?. Also Do I need the >device wi0?, and how can I find it? > > Sincerely, > > Ramez. Hello, Welcome to FreeBSD! I don't have a solution for you, but I can tell you where to find it. Check the Handbook at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html (URL may have wrapped). Also, you can check the list archives through http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists (URL may have wrapped). Also, check google. FreeBSD and Linksys are pretty common, so your question may be answered on a website. If you still can't find the information you need, repost to the list on Monday. The list is fairly quiet on the weekends, so you will have a much better chance of getting a more informative answer than mine. As you are new to FreeBSD, you ought to read http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/article.html (URL may have wrapped). It explains how to most easily get the greatest amount of help from the list. HTH, Stheg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 05:07:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7101916A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:07:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1140043D2D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:07:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:07:41 -0500 Message-ID: <414D141A.2050700@daleco.biz> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:07:38 -0500 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <535FEA17-02B4-11D9-A03B-000A2791B6EC@illusionart.com> <20040910135111.GA50475@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20040910135111.GA50475@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2004 05:07:41.0780 (UTC) FILETIME=[97409140:01C49E06] cc: Vonleigh Simmons cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache+mod_ssl + mod_php segfault (culprit found!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:07:41 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: >This sounds to me very much like you've got the mod_php loadable >object linked against an incompatible version of a shlib which >apach+mod_ssl is also linked to. At a guess: > > i) I'd finger the OpenSSL libs as a prime suspect: particularly if > you've also installed OpenSSL from ports. It's not necessary > to install OpenSSL from ports as the version in the base system > is perfectly OK. > > > It certainly seems that you are right as usual, Matthew. Removing "openssl.so" from /usr/local/lib/php/20020429 and restarting Apache works (no core dump!) ... albeit PHP doesn't have OpenSSL support in it now, I guess ... After checking with ldd(1) as you suggested ... how should we fix this if we want PHP to have support for OpenSSL? It's not that critical in my case ... but PHP is ;-) RTFM pointers accepted :-) Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 05:40:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1404D16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:40:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from FoxSurfer.Com (dns1.foxsurfer.com [69.90.8.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECD443D39 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:40:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from daemon@foxchat.net) Received: from [24.172.9.74] (zapper@rrcs-24-172-9-74.midsouth.biz.rr.com [24.172.9.74]) by FoxSurfer.Com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8J5e97o002858 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:40:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from daemon@foxchat.net) From: NetAdmin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-hOXkzmRjO1Uf5skea1eR" Message-Id: <1095572412.59753.18.camel@foxdaemon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:40:12 -0400 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: panic: rtqkill route really not free X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:40:12 -0000 --=-hOXkzmRjO1Uf5skea1eR Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm running FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 and today was the second time in 3 days that my box has rebooted with (panic: rtqkill route really not free). I've looked on the web but can't find anything relevant. Has anyone else run across this? If so, could you point me to some help in trying to figure out how to correct it? Regards, Mark --=20 Admin for the FoxChat.Net IRC Network. The FoxSurfer Group --=-hOXkzmRjO1Uf5skea1eR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBTRu8NirmlL8R/7sRAgseAJ9MjVxbgdh2vfOyRg/0GvM1McW86gCffJ/Q RqrUFvgr+3Jnm601tI0Ne5o= =nM7+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-hOXkzmRjO1Uf5skea1eR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 05:49:16 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E685C16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:49:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.cableone.net (scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A9443D4C for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:49:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from v.velox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net (unverified [24.119.62.13]) by smail2.cableone.net (SurgeMail 1.9b) with ESMTP id 18177483 for multiple; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:33:09 -0700 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:48:38 -0500 From: Vulpes Velox To: Glenn Sieb Message-ID: <20040919004838.617c7676@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <414CF27E.60709@wingfoot.org> References: <414CF27E.60709@wingfoot.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12a (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.10) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DVD question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:49:17 -0000 On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:44:14 -0400 Glenn Sieb wrote: > Hey list! > > I'm a BSD guy for servers & such. My own server (wingfoot) runs > 4.10-STABLE, and my last job was 95% FreeBSD in the data center. > > I'm getting sick of Windows on my desktop at home. (No kidding, > right?!) I'd really really really love to move my desktop to FBSD. > One thing is really holding me back. > > In Windows, I have Roxio Easy Media Creator 7, which allows me to > manipulate AVI/MPEG streams, and format a DVD video disc and burn > it, using my nifty TDK DVD 8x +/-RW drive. > > I'm pretty sure I can find AVI/MPEG editing packages for BSD easy > enough. avidemux, mplayer, ffmpeg should take care of nearly all of your needs > But I'm having a dickens of a time finding something that will let > me author DVDs. Any pointing in directions or help would be greatly > appreciated! Try searching the ports tree :P man ports http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=dvd&stype=all I've personally have had better luck with mutlimedia and the like under freebsd, than I ever have under windows. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 06:15:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A33416A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:15:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1485543D53 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:15:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedwin2k (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) i8J6FlW20555; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:15:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Tim Aslat" , Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 23:16:27 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20040919135735.47ecd56e@bofh.spyderweb.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: Which Laser Printer for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:15:38 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Tim Aslat > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 9:28 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > You can usually pick these units up at auction for around the $20 mark, > or sometimes less. Mine came with a second paper tray and a jet-direct > card, and I'm sure there are other nice extras that people are willing > to include just to take it off their hands. > Duplexers are nice but hard to find on the used market. Be careful with buying envelope feeders. HP manufactured 2 different ones. The first one only works on the HP4. The second one works on the HP4 and on the HP4+. Both look identical and there are no identifying marks on them that indicate if you have an older one or a newer one. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 07:04:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF8C16A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:04:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [66.154.97.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A5E43D31; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:04:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6375A582E; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nezlok.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17942-03; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B56F9580C; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040919071002.B56F9580C@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at unixathome.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2004-08-29 - 2004-09-18 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:04:06 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 3-Sep : Disk cloning with Acronis True Image I wanted to use dd, but True Image did the job! http://freebsddiary.org/disk-cloning.php?2 1-Sep : Using a jail as a virtual machine Sharing the hardware, without the risk http://freebsddiary.org/jail.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 07:29:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A276B16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:29:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from usw2.natel.net (2b.bz [209.152.117.190]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C110E43D46 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:29:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 81372 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2004 07:29:10 -0000 Received: from batv-01-028.dialup.netins.net (HELO xyz.US-Webmasters.com) (216.248.109.29) by us-webmasters.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2004 07:29:10 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20040919022423.068485d0@209.152.117.178> X-Sender: wd@209.152.117.178 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:28:22 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, samba@lists.samba.org From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <200409182343.22827.jtoung@arc.nasa.gov> References: <20040918044315.GE67689@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200409171702.58905.jtoung@arc.nasa.gov> <20040918044315.GE67689@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Samba Configuration Options for small 2-3 person office? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:29:14 -0000 After 'make install', this appears: lqqqqqqqq samba configuration options qqqqqqqqqk x x x Please select desired options: x x lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk x x x [ ] syslog With syslog support x x x x [ ] ssl With ssl support x x x x [ ] ldap With LDAP2 support x x x x [ ] nocups Without CUPS x x x x [ ] acl With ACL support x x x x [ ] utmp With UTMP support x x x x [ ] msdfs With MSDFS support x x x x [ ] quota With Quota support x x x x [ ] recycle With Recycle Bin x x x x [ ] audit With Audit x x x x [ ] winbind With Winbind x x x x [ ] wbauth With Winbind Auth Challenge x x x mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj x tqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqu x [ OK ] Cancel x mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj Which should be checked? Thanks for your help!!! Start Here to Find It Fast!=99 ->= http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 07:33:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D756C16A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:33:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm15.prodigy.net (ylpvm15-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9427E43D2D; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:33:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from elischer.org (adsl-68-120-130-250.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [68.120.130.250])i8J7XqqM029572; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 03:33:53 -0400 Message-ID: <414D365E.2030200@elischer.org> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:33:50 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en, hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: timh@tjhawkins.com References: <00d001c49dd4$7382dc40$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> In-Reply-To: <00d001c49dd4$7382dc40$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: smp@freebsd.org cc: advocacy@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:33:54 -0000 timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: > 2 Major Issues: > > - FreeBSD has a processor affinity design issue thanks for the non combatative and diplomatically styled message? > > - The core kernel issues with FreeBSD is the horrible threading > support.There is so much crap in FreeBSD kernel. The multithreading issue in > freebsd has been delayed for nearly 6 years. They have just made work > arounds, not fixing the actual problem. It seems that the only real BSD that > has made big progress on the core issues is DragonflyBSD. Dragonfly BSD is a branch of freeBSD that we are all watching with great interest. The advantage that is available there is the decision to go back to teh drawing board and start from scratch, thereby breaking a lot, in the hope of being able to fix it again when teh parts afe all completed. It is a very interesting experiment and as such, FreeBSD developers in general are watching with interest. > > It appears that FreeBSD have a clear Multi-threading lock-in issue that > needs to be fixed. Not work arounds. According to many freebsd developers > nobody simply wants to fix this, is it true that the current smp work are > just 'work-arounds' not real fixing? Well if you could explain yourself in English I'd have more of a chance of answering your questions. The big challenge with FreeBSD and MP is that we have to get from a "here" (where there was no MP at all) the a "there" (where there is), while having every step of the way between being a runnable stable (within reason) system. This greatly limits how things are done. The current SMP work is not just "workarounds" but rather steps needed to get from A to B. Sometimes you can't see what the final picture is by looking at an intermediate step in isolation. > > The only thing holding FreeBSD back is the Multithreading issue. I wish you would explain this statement. It could be interpretted in so many ways that it really is almost meaningless. (Some of the interpretatiosn however are not..) > > Please clarify this. Sure.. how about you clarify your question first however. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-smp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-smp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-smp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 07:51:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FFFB16A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:51:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ylpvm29.prodigy.net (ylpvm29-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.57.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AD643D5C; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:51:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from elischer.org (adsl-68-120-130-250.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [68.120.130.250])i8J7pMIV023949; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 03:51:23 -0400 Message-ID: <414D3A87.7080305@elischer.org> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:51:35 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030524 X-Accept-Language: en, hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stheg olloydson References: <20040919015801.37222.qmail@web53908.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040919015801.37222.qmail@web53908.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org cc: timh@tjhawkins.com Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:51:38 -0000 I never saw this email from timh so I'm replying to this reply instead.. > > --- timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: > > >> processor affinity design issue.. >> >>i.e.. processes stay on the cpu they are >>spawned on..which is a big problem for mysql which explains why it >>performs better on other systems. yes We ALL know what processor affinity is. What makes you say we have not done anything aout this.? We have are working on a new scheduler (ULE) that is designed to implement processor affinity as a basic part of its functionality. When we are happy wih it we'll make it standard. >> >>Furthermore, the SMP issue is a common problem among many FreeBSD >>developers whom have told me the same, there is alot of this >>information all over the >>internet. FreeBSD is unable to perform good on multiple CPUs, >>the fixes are just work arounds. What have they told you? SMP in FreeBSD is coming along quite nicely as far as I see.. We now have native SMP scaleable threading in the default system, and larger and larger parts of the system ara able to take advantage of Multiple processors to parallelise their work. >> >>Unless if the freebsd community has just started to fix the >>multithreading issue, it's a huge problem. We've been working hard at it for 4 years (where did you get 6?) and we are seeing real results.. It sounds to me like you haven't actually tried it out yet. We hav elots to do yet, but there's been a lot of progress. BTW there is something going on with linux and mysql.. It looks like they have some optimisations in there that are not SMP related as their uniprocessor numbers are also better, and I've heard that when you run a linux mysql binary under freeBSD you also get similar improvements so My money is on the compile options or something ;-) >> Darwin does not >>have this problem whatsoever. Dawin was designed from the beginning for SMP. Mach was SMP capable from the firt release I ever worked on which was 2.0. >> >>Why do I care? This is a silly question. I have 2 windows PCs here, I >>have 9 >>other workstations that all run unix. I am a server manager and I do >>consulting work for freebsd/linux. Windows came free so why not? I >>don't do business on it. >> >>I've been a really huge FreeBSD supporter.. but I am really concerned >>about this issue which has been an issue for so long. I suggest that you follow what is actually going on rather than listenning to "the internet". >> >>thanks, >>tim h. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 09:10:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A921616A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:10:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtps-out1.xs4all.nl (smtps-out1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24FF043D31; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:10:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mhellwig@xs4all.nl) Received: from [10.0.0.173] (xinagnet.xs4all.nl [80.126.243.229]) (authenticated bits=0)i8J9AFTJ000530; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:10:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <414D4CEC.1050400@xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:10:04 +0200 From: "Martin P. Hellwig" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; DragonFly i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040918 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: timh@tjhawkins.com References: <010801c49dee$72cc5eb0$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> <1095546154.671.6.camel@elemental.DashEvil> <010e01c49df0$a5b79400$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> In-Reply-To: <010e01c49df0$a5b79400$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Chris Laverdure cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:10:18 -0000 timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: >Your taking it the wrong way, I was simply asking a question to the >developers to confirm this. > >I have standardized on FreeBSD. > >I apologized if I made it seem like I was trolling, not my intention. > >If a business were to standardize on FreeBSD, they would love to know if the >multithreading issues would be fixed completely correctly not just >'work-arounds'. > > Well, fair enough but it still comes down to if you have a other OS which does what you need than use that OS. But perhaps you require the BSD license for you biz? Actually I'm not very knowledged (far from) about design and multithread issues however from what I read is that mulitple CPU's is a real pain and the one who managed it the best is SUN (only read that - not sure about it), but there working 10 years on this issues and get paid for it. So what can you filter out of this? If you need your idea of multithreading, then let it develop and give it to the BSD community, otherwise use/buy an other OS. That multithreading issue is indeed a touchy point because it is so open for other interpretation, which one group sees a fine solution is for the other a low-profile dirty hack. Some hang more over to a clean design and other like designs but prefer something working. DragonFly has indeed taken a different approach about solving this issue, however which OS will provide the best solution will be proven over time. So IMHO your original question is not trolling but you simply ask it a couple of years to early :-) -- mph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 09:58:56 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1261416A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:58:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBA8D43D1D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:58:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from robert@ruegner.org) Received: (qmail 31677 invoked by uid 65534); 19 Sep 2004 09:58:54 -0000 Received: from ppp-82-135-0-9.mnet-online.de (EHLO [10.10.100.50]) (82.135.0.9) by mail.gmx.net (mp024) with SMTP; 19 Sep 2004 11:58:54 +0200 X-Authenticated: #1659142 Message-ID: <414D585D.7020803@ruegner.org> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:58:53 +0200 From: rruegner User-Agent: Thunderbird 0.7 (Windows/20040616) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "W. D." References: <20040918044315.GE67689@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200409171702.58905.jtoung@arc.nasa.gov> <20040918044315.GE67689@wantadilla.lemis.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040919022423.068485d0@209.152.117.178> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040919022423.068485d0@209.152.117.178> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.84.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: samba@lists.samba.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Samba Configuration Options for small 2-3 person office? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:58:56 -0000 Hi, i never seen this , cause i am installing from bins, but you can do it all without nocups cause using this parameters later depends only on your entries in the smb.conf, but it will be nice to have the choice. Regards W. D. schrieb: > After 'make install', this appears: > > lqqqqqqqq samba configuration options qqqqqqqqqk > x x > x Please select desired options: x > x lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk x > x x [ ] syslog With syslog support x x > x x [ ] ssl With ssl support x x > x x [ ] ldap With LDAP2 support x x > x x [ ] nocups Without CUPS x x > x x [ ] acl With ACL support x x > x x [ ] utmp With UTMP support x x > x x [ ] msdfs With MSDFS support x x > x x [ ] quota With Quota support x x > x x [ ] recycle With Recycle Bin x x > x x [ ] audit With Audit x x > x x [ ] winbind With Winbind x x > x x [ ] wbauth With Winbind Auth Challenge x x > x mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj x > tqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqu > x [ OK ] Cancel x > mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj > > Which should be checked? > > Thanks for your help!!! > > Start Here to Find It Fast!™ -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ > $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 10:08:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC87716A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:08:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from p15140542.pureserver.info (papendorf-se.de [217.160.222.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A7E43D2F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:08:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nagilum.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by p15140542.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AFF2F411A; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:08:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from p15140542.pureserver.info ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p15140542 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05905-08; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:08:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cakebox.homeunix.net (stgt-d9bb31e6.pool.mediaWays.net [217.187.49.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by p15140542.pureserver.info (Postfix) with ESMTP id A989A2F4119; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:08:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cakebox.homeunix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B75F3029AA; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:07:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cakebox.homeunix.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cakebox.tis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 96492-06; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:07:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.1.1.4] (scorpio.tis [10.1.1.4]) by cakebox.homeunix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A92D8302806; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:07:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <414D5A7E.5040406@nagilum.org> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:07:58 +0200 From: Nagilum User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040803 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ramuK hsiraH References: <20040919082503.43852.qmail@web8410.mail.in.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040919082503.43852.qmail@web8410.mail.in.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at cakebox.homeunix.net X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at papendorf-se.de cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Regarding Boot failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:08:25 -0000 If it does not continue from there (did you press return?) something went wrong during the installation process because apparently the kernel is not where the bootloader expects it. Try to do the install again and make sure the bootloader is installed on the right place. The handbooks install section covers all aspects of this faily well, so its a good idea to have access to it while installing. I hope that helps, Alex, ramuK hsiraH wrote: >Hai > i have removed all the disk's from their respective >drives but still i have tha same problem > > of prompting the same message what to do then > > Harish > > > --- Nagilum wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>Could it be that you forgot to remove the mfsroot >>floppy from the >>diskdrive when you rebooted? >> >>Regards, >>Alex. >> >>ramuK hsiraH wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hai every body >>> >>> Recently i have installed FreeBSD5.3 >>> the installation process is quiet nice >>> when the system reboots >>> >>> >>> it prompts with the message as follows >>> >>> >>> FreeBSD ...... >>> Default : 0(1,a)/kernel >>> boot: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> it stops there what to do next >>> plz help me continue from there >>> >>> Bye >>> Harish Kumar >>> fios.sourceforge.net >>> >>> >>> >>________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >>>Yahoo! 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India Matrimony: Find your life partner online >Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 10:13:05 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2084616A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:13:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from santiago.pacific.net.sg (santiago.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB2F843D45 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:13:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 18505 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2004 10:13:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maxwell6.pacific.net.sg) (203.120.90.212) by santiago with SMTP; 19 Sep 2004 10:13:02 -0000 Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([210.24.202.141]) by maxwell6.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP <20040919101301.SEYL17051.maxwell6.pacific.net.sg@[192.168.0.107]>; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:13:01 +0800 Message-ID: <414D5BA6.5080906@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:12:54 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Martin P. Hellwig" References: <010801c49dee$72cc5eb0$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> <1095546154.671.6.camel@elemental.DashEvil> <010e01c49df0$a5b79400$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> <414D4CEC.1050400@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <414D4CEC.1050400@xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:13:05 -0000 Hi, Martin P. Hellwig wrote: > timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: > > > Well, fair enough but it still comes down to if you have a other OS > which does what you need than use that OS. SMP support is only one thing to consider. > But perhaps you require the BSD license for you biz? > Actually I'm not very knowledged (far from) about design and multithread > issues however from what I read is that mulitple CPU's is a real pain > and the one who managed it the best is SUN (only read that - not sure > about it), but there working 10 years on this issues and get paid for The main difference is that they live from selling the hardware. If their operating system would not support their very own hardware up to the extent, their sales would drop. Sun's support for multiple CPUs includes also things which are not even supported by standard x86 hardware. Try to exchange a CPU while your PC based machine is running. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 10:38:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5043416A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:38:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.nildram.co.uk (smtp.nildram.co.uk [195.112.4.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7470A43D2D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:38:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from arden@nildram.co.uk) Received: from [10.0.0.7] (195-112-44-246.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk [195.112.44.246]) by smtp.nildram.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355E829FD0F; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:38:39 +0100 (BST) From: arden To: Vulpes Velox In-Reply-To: <20040919004838.617c7676@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> References: <414CF27E.60709@wingfoot.org> <20040919004838.617c7676@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1095590210.2336.12.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6-1mdk Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:36:51 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Glenn Sieb cc: freebsd Subject: Re: DVD question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:38:44 -0000 On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 06:48, Vulpes Velox wrote: > On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:44:14 -0400 > Glenn Sieb wrote: > > > Hey list! > > > > I'm a BSD guy for servers & such. My own server (wingfoot) runs > > 4.10-STABLE, and my last job was 95% FreeBSD in the data center. > > > > I'm getting sick of Windows on my desktop at home. (No kidding, > > right?!) I'd really really really love to move my desktop to FBSD. > > One thing is really holding me back. > > > > In Windows, I have Roxio Easy Media Creator 7, which allows me to > > manipulate AVI/MPEG streams, and format a DVD video disc and burn > > it, using my nifty TDK DVD 8x +/-RW drive. > > > > I'm pretty sure I can find AVI/MPEG editing packages for BSD easy > > enough. > > avidemux, mplayer, ffmpeg should take care of nearly all of your > needs > > > But I'm having a dickens of a time finding something that will let > > me author DVDs. Any pointing in directions or help would be greatly > > appreciated! > > Try searching the ports tree :P > > man ports > > http://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=dvd&stype=all > > > I've personally have had better luck with mutlimedia and the like > under freebsd, than I ever have under windows. > Transcode is worth a look as is dvdauthor the thing i think is missing is a *nix answer to dvd2one Arden > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 10:48:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630AE16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:48:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1881643D1D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:48:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i8JAlvNT052079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:47:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i8JAls1P052069; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:47:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:47:54 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." Message-ID: <20040919104754.GB51161@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." , Vonleigh Simmons , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <535FEA17-02B4-11D9-A03B-000A2791B6EC@illusionart.com> <20040910135111.GA50475@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <414D141A.2050700@daleco.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <414D141A.2050700@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:47:57 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: Vonleigh Simmons cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache+mod_ssl + mod_php segfault (culprit found!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:48:11 -0000 --dc+cDN39EJAMEtIO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 12:07:38AM -0500, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wro= te: >=20 > Matthew Seaman wrote: >=20 > >This sounds to me very much like you've got the mod_php loadable > >object linked against an incompatible version of a shlib which > >apach+mod_ssl is also linked to. At a guess: > > > > i) I'd finger the OpenSSL libs as a prime suspect: particularly if > > you've also installed OpenSSL from ports. It's not necessary > > to install OpenSSL from ports as the version in the base system > > is perfectly OK. > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > It certainly seems that you are right as usual, Matthew. > Removing "openssl.so" from /usr/local/lib/php/20020429 > and restarting Apache works (no core dump!) ... albeit > PHP doesn't have OpenSSL support in it now, I guess ... >=20 > After checking with ldd(1) as you suggested ... how should > we fix this if we want PHP to have support for OpenSSL? > It's not that critical in my case ... but PHP is ;-) Hmmm... Well, it works for me. Let's see: =20 % ldd /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/openssl.so=20 /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/openssl.so: libcrypto.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.3 (0x28116000) libssl.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib/libssl.so.3 (0x28213000) =20 % ldd /usr/local/libexec/apache/libssl.so=20 /usr/local/libexec/apache/libssl.so: libssl.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib/libssl.so.3 (0x28132000) libcrypto.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.3 (0x28161000) =20 I guess that so long as the shlib version numbers and entry points are the same in both cases, you won't have a problem. You do know that apache13+mod_ssl involves a lot of patching to the apache part, and that modules compiled for that combination aren't suitable for use with plain apache13, and vice versa? Try setting APACHE_PORT=3Dwww/apache13-modssl in your /etc/make.conf or in the ENV[] section in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf and recompiling PHP and any PHP extensions. Note that there's an unresolved bug to do with SSL support in PHP4 -- if you load SSL support as a module, you don't get all of the functionality you do when SSL is compiled into PHP directly. One package that is adversely affected is Squirrelmail, which is prevented from using the encrypted version of IMAP. There's been several posts about the problem around the FreeBSD lists, including instructions on how to fudge the new PHP ports structure to get a compiled-in SSL extension. The bug doesn't affect PHP5, but then again, a log of PHP applications don't work under PHP5 yet either. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:15:28 -0000 --1ccMZA6j1vT5UqiK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 04:11:06PM -0400, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > I've read several articles out there that address different means to=20 > automate (or standardize, for internal purposes) FreeBSD=20 > installations. One article (which was older) spoke of scripting=20 > sysinstall via an install.cfg with some custom pkg modules to do=20 > edits. The other, exploiting the PXE capability of the newer (Intel) NI= Cs. Actually these two aren't necessarily exclusive. PXE allows you to build a mechanism like Solaris Jumpstart -- where systems will automatically install and configure themselves from a network server. One of the ways to work PXE is to combine it with the scripted install capabilities of sysinstall(8). =20 > I'm interested in what people are doing now - what has had the better=20 > success rate, etc. I realize this is all dependent upon one's=20 > environment - mine will be more ISP-related, but will require some=20 > flexibility for different servers. PXE is pretty good, but it depends on having appropriate support supplied via your hardware. Another good system is to build your own customised install CDs (maybe even going to the lengths of building a separate install CD for each server) -- you can include various extra packages as part of your standard install, and you can create a package of your own to install config files in /etc and similar places[1]. Get it right, and installing a system can be automated right down to slapping a CD Rom in the drive and telling the system to boot from it. > I've also heard of people utilizing GNU CFEngine for this type of=20 > procedure, which I find interesting - it's a complex package, but seems= =20 > to be very functional if you have time/patience to apply it. CFEngine is more to do with port-install configuration: managing a whole machine room full of servers from a centralised configuration database. =20 Cheers, Matthew [1] You can even use a FreeSBIE disk -- your OS lives on the (unwritable) CD Rom, and the disk newfs'es and mounts and populates the filesystems using the systems' hard drive as necessary. Very easy to recover from system compromise in that case: just reboot. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --1ccMZA6j1vT5UqiK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTWpAiD657aJF7eIRAryrAJ9uP41WwmBgPm80+rVXmAKoD0UaYQCgmVx/ eErhax35Y7LNvDw/saxvIlY= =djQd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1ccMZA6j1vT5UqiK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 11:39:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0084916A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:39:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from alpargata.net (alpargata.net [67.18.172.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD7B43D31 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:39:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nospam@illusionart.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (dsl081-061-217.dsl-isp.net [64.81.61.217] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by alpargata.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8JBgVvj030516; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:42:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from nospam@illusionart.com) In-Reply-To: <20040919104754.GB51161@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <535FEA17-02B4-11D9-A03B-000A2791B6EC@illusionart.com> <20040910135111.GA50475@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> <414D141A.2050700@daleco.biz> <20040919104754.GB51161@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8D7A9D6D-0A30-11D9-AE0F-000A2791B6EC@illusionart.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Vonleigh Simmons Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 04:39:23 -0700 To: Matthew Seaman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75.1, clamav-milter version 0.75c on alpargata.net X-Virus-Status: Clean cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache+mod_ssl + mod_php segfault (culprit found!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:39:38 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: >> It certainly seems that you are right as usual, Matthew. >> Removing "openssl.so" from /usr/local/lib/php/20020429 >> and restarting Apache works (no core dump!) Unfortunately this didn't work for me. Deleted the file and still apache dumps on me. > Try setting APACHE_PORT=www/apache13-modssl in your /etc/make.conf or > in the ENV[] section in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf and recompiling > PHP and any PHP extensions. I did this as well. First I put the APACHE_PORT in /etc/make.conf, then I made deinstall apache, php and php4-extensions. Made clean on all of them. Then I reinstalled apache first, then php. Apache dumps on startup. Tried building the extensions, no change. However the starting it up, switching php on, then restarting still works (which is very lucky, as I need this up). I'm open to any other suggestions though, this has been very frustrating as my first experience with freebsd. Vonleigh Simmons From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 11:42:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2843316A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:42:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F3F43D2F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:42:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i8JBgU5r094205 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:42:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i8JBgURd094204; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:42:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:42:30 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Rob Message-ID: <20040919114230.GD51161@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Rob , questions@freebsd.org References: <6.1.2.0.0.20040918222850.03091b40@albert> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0/kgSOzhNoDC5T3a" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.1.2.0.0.20040918222850.03091b40@albert> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:42:31 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.10, Jails, apache and FIN_WAIT_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:42:37 -0000 --0/kgSOzhNoDC5T3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 10:48:15PM +0100, Rob wrote: > The problem is, I'm getting a lot of stalled connections when accessing t= he=20 > webserver. running netstat on the host shows e.g.: >=20 >=20 > tcp4 0 0 jade.http 212.57.246.42.35590 FIN_WAIT_1 > tcp4 0 0 jade.http 212.57.246.42.35585 ESTABLISHED > tcp4 0 0 jade.http 212.57.246.42.35555 CLOSING >=20 > This one is me - while this FIN_WAIT_1 is present, I cannot persuade my= =20 > browser (Opera 7.52 on Windows 2K) to work - it sits with "Sending reques= t=20 > to www..." in the status line. Pressing refresh does nothing... as soon= =20 > as the FIN_WAIT_1 vanishes, then everything is OK again, for a few more= =20 > minutes. FIN_WAIT_1 means that the server is waiting for a FIN packet from the client to signal that the TCP connection should be torn down. There's a few things to check: i) Do you have 'tcp_extensions=3D"YES"' in /etc/rc.conf -- or the corresponding net.inet.tcp.rfc1323 sysctl set to 1? That turns on the RFC1323 extensions. Now, RFC1323 has been around long enough that just about everything should support it nowadays. Try toggling the setting -- turning it off may well make things slower, but "slow" is better than "never". Similarly try toggling the net.inet.tcp.rfc1644 sysctl from 0 to 1 -- that enables or disables T/TCP ii) The TCP_DROP_SYNFIN kernel option (and the corresponding tcp_drop_synfin rc.conf variable) can cause problems, particularly with HTTP traffic. As it says in LINT: # # TCP_DROP_SYNFIN adds support for ignoring TCP packets with SYN+FI= N. This # prevents nmap et al. from identifying the TCP/IP stack, but break= s support # for RFC1644 extensions and is not recommended for web servers. # options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #drop TCP packets with SYN+= FIN iii) Last, but probably most likely: if you're running IPFW or ipf using dynamic rules, it's possible that the dynamic rules have been set to time out too quickly during the shutdown phase of the connection, so the FIN packet from the client is getting filtered out. Confirm that by turning off the firewall for testing (so long as you're on a protected private network) or add a static rule allowing all HTTP traffic between your server and your test machine. Tools like tcpdump(1) and etherreal(1) are invaluable when trying to debug this sort of networking problem: being able to inspeact exactly what is passing over the wire helps you make sense of a lot of puzzling failure modes. Also read the tuning(7) man page for some more detail on what all those sysctls and things really do, and when you might want to enabe them. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --0/kgSOzhNoDC5T3a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTXCmiD657aJF7eIRAkXpAJ0a+oujg+NIKZPPnPmzLV0MmoLCqQCfcy36 bvE8TGKLTgMwUGznpaJdIaQ= =EqNM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0/kgSOzhNoDC5T3a-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 11:45:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDCE16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:45:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F32E43D5E for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:45:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i8JBj6IK094253 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:45:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i8JBj6d3094252; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:45:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:45:06 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Anthony Philipp Message-ID: <20040919114506.GE51161@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Anthony Philipp , FreeBSD Questions References: <20040918215538.GA18451@zeus.itg.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DqhR8hV3EnoxUkKN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040918215538.GA18451@zeus.itg.uiuc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:45:06 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: core dump with portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:45:12 -0000 --DqhR8hV3EnoxUkKN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 04:55:38PM -0500, Anthony Philipp wrote: > Hello, when I was trying to upgrade my laptop with the latest ports this = is what happened.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > (16:50:29) root@jigen /home/philipp1 1# portupgrade -arR > Stale dependency: ORBit-0.5.17_1 --> gettext-0.12.1 -- manually run 'pkgd= b -F' t > o fix, or specify -O to force. > (16:51:17) root@jigen /home/philipp1 2# pkgdb -F > ---> Checking the package registry database > Duplicated origin: textproc/expat2 - expat-1.95.6_1 expat-1.95.7 > Unregister any of them? [no]=20 > Duplicated origin: databases/ruby-bdb1 - ruby-bdb1-0.2.1 ruby18-bdb1-0.2.2 > Unregister any of them? [no] yes > Unregister ruby-bdb1-0.2.1 keeping the installed files intact? [no] yes > -> ruby18-bdb1-0.2.2 is kept. > --> Saving the ruby-bdb1-0.2.1's +CONTENTS file as /var/db/pkg/ruby18-b= db1-0.2.2/+CONTENTS.ruby-bdb1-0.2.1 > --> Unregistering ruby-bdb1-0.2.1 > --> Done. > [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 284 packages= found (-1 +0) (...) done] > Stale dependency: ORBit-0.5.17_1 -> gettext-0.12.1 (devel/gettext): > [Failed `Inappropriate file type or format'] [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports ... - 11733 port entries found .........1000...= ......2000.........3000.........4000.........5000......./usr/local/lib/ruby= /site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:587: [BUG] Segmentation fault > ruby 1.8.2 (2004-07-29) [i386-freebsd5] >=20 > Abort trap (core dumped) >=20 >=20 >=20 > Also the same thing happened when I did portsdb -Uu or portversion -l "<" > I can post those if required, and this is highly reproducible, so just as= k if you need more info. You're not the only one to have been bitten by this. Search the archives for extensive mailing list traffic on this subject -- but in short, a work around is: # setenv PORTS_DBDDRIVER bdb1_hash before you start running portsdb(1) or portupgrade(1). Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --DqhR8hV3EnoxUkKN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTXFCiD657aJF7eIRAidEAJ90CViSPBG2gkOjX1qCnNzdnqryRQCgqpcg OWDQTEROVf55QC9CVBs585Y= =xLBM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DqhR8hV3EnoxUkKN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 11:53:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9006316A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:53:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68D0643D5F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:53:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krylon@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 10260 invoked by uid 65534); 19 Sep 2004 11:53:03 -0000 Received: from i53875926.versanet.de (EHLO neuromancer.krylon.net) (83.135.89.38) by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 19 Sep 2004 13:53:03 +0200 X-Authenticated: #685629 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:52:54 +0200 From: Benjamin Walkenhorst To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040919135254.1e187098.krylon@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2.1) User-Agent: Sylpheed 0.9.7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Native Mozilla-Firebird build via ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:53:08 -0000 Hello everyone, I recently got myself a broadband internet connection and happily started upgrading a lot of software on my machine. Among others, I wanted to upgrade MozillaFirebird. Before the upgrade I used FireBird 0.7. Then I deinstalled the package - I really don't remember where I got the package... - and wanted to upgrade via ports. Unfortunately, I discovered that this was not a native version but a Linux version running in binary compatibility. ;-/ I'd rather have native build, since I know this is possible. Can I do so via ports? 'find /usr/ports -name *bird*' only comes up with linux-mozillafirebird in /usr/ports/www. Or do I have to build Firebird myself? Thanks in advance, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, "Introduction To Distributed Systems" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 12:09:22 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072D816A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:09:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-22.mail.nl.demon.net (post-22.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.192]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FE143D1D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:09:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from yuri.vanovermeeren@reston.demon.nl) Received: from reston.demon.nl ([212.238.216.87]:1082 helo=[192.168.1.100]) by post-22.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C90VM-0006vQ-CO; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:09:20 +0000 Message-ID: <414D7727.8000904@reston.demon.nl> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:10:15 +0200 From: yuri van Overmeeren User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin Walkenhorst References: <20040919135254.1e187098.krylon@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20040919135254.1e187098.krylon@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Native Mozilla-Firebird build via ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri.vanovermeeren@reston.demon.nl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:09:22 -0000 'Firebird' is now called 'Firefox', you dont have to build it, Native version is in the packages (version 0.9.3) -yuri Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: >Hello everyone, > >I recently got myself a broadband internet connection and happily >started upgrading a lot of software on my machine. Among others, >I wanted to upgrade MozillaFirebird. Before the upgrade I used FireBird >0.7. Then I deinstalled the package - I really don't remember where I >got the package... - and wanted to upgrade via ports. >Unfortunately, I discovered that this was not a native version but a >Linux version running in binary compatibility. ;-/ >I'd rather have native build, since I know this is possible. Can I do so >via ports? 'find /usr/ports -name *bird*' only comes up with >linux-mozillafirebird in /usr/ports/www. >Or do I have to build Firebird myself? > >Thanks in advance, >Benjamin > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 12:09:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF83D16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:09:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E0E43D2F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:09:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i8JC9Rht094496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:09:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i8JC9RXn094495; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:09:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:09:27 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: Abe Olson Message-ID: <20040919120927.GF51161@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , Abe Olson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <414CD0D3.2030802@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ni93GHxFvA+th69W" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <414CD0D3.2030802@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:09:27 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: winxp freebsd dual boot with freebsd on second HD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:09:36 -0000 --ni93GHxFvA+th69W Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 05:20:35PM -0700, Abe Olson wrote: =20 > The instructions say: > "Other operating systems, in particular Windows=AE 95, have been known to= =20 > overwrite an existing MBR with their own. If this happens to you, or you= =20 > want to replace your existing MBR with the FreeBSD MBR then use the=20 > following command: >=20 > # fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 device >=20 > Where device is the device that you boot from . . ." You have to do that to all bootable drives in your machine -- so assuming your Windows disk is ad0 and your FreeBSD disk is ad2, you'ld run: # fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 ad0 # fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 ad2 In either case, you shouldn't need to rewrite the partition table. See also boot0cfg(8) for a tool that lets you configure exactly how the boot blocks work. Indeed, you can use boot0cfg(8) instead of fdisk(8) to achieve your ends: # boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 ad0 # boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 ad2 boot0cfg only ever affects the boot blocks; unlike fdisk it doesn't do anything with partition tables, other than allow you to choose which slices to boot from. Note that the boot0 boot block is very minimal -- it fits into a single 512 byte sector -- and that many people prefer 3rd party boot managers like GAG: http://gag.sourceforge.net/ which, while quite a bit bigger, have a much friendlier user interface. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --ni93GHxFvA+th69W Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTXb3iD657aJF7eIRAvX5AKCQL2yVkenuMEVxlSJWE9/r3qv3QwCguhO0 Xrxzvac/XHTU+F74TQuFx5U= =jFn/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ni93GHxFvA+th69W-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 12:17:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933B616A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:17:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3EF43D41 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:17:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i8JCH7eI094612 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:17:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i8JCH6sF094611; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:17:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:17:06 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: John Shelton Message-ID: <20040919121706.GG51161@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , John Shelton , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <414CDC93.9020603@onr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HKEL+t8MFpg/ASTE" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <414CDC93.9020603@onr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:17:07 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel ident X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:17:13 -0000 --HKEL+t8MFpg/ASTE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 07:10:43PM -0600, John Shelton wrote: > the kernel configuration file contains the option 'ident.' >=20 > is the value of ident hardcoded into the kernel? >=20 > just curious. thanks. Yes it is, but indirectly. The 'ident' setting should be the same as the filename you use for the kernel config, and controls the name of the subdirectory where that kernel is compiled and linked. That directory name is one of the very first things the kernel prints out on boot up: % head -11 /var/run/dmesg.boot Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopp= ed Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped =20 syncing disks... 21=20 done Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserve= d. FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #82: Sun Sep 5 12:08:24 BST 2004 root@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/H= APPY-IDIOT-TALK See config(8) for more details. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --HKEL+t8MFpg/ASTE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTXjCiD657aJF7eIRAgFIAKCsGTUFtKBWogxhxjDXGJybbzj46ACdGNRL AcbWy/zlV8Nz90HUVM0v3j4= =lsbS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HKEL+t8MFpg/ASTE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 12:22:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B2916A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:22:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C1FED43D41 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:22:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krylon@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 25172 invoked by uid 65534); 19 Sep 2004 12:22:09 -0000 Received: from i53875926.versanet.de (EHLO neuromancer.krylon.net) (83.135.89.38) by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 19 Sep 2004 14:22:09 +0200 X-Authenticated: #685629 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:22:03 +0200 From: Benjamin Walkenhorst To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20040919142203.4c66eb1b.krylon@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <414D7727.8000904@reston.demon.nl> References: <20040919135254.1e187098.krylon@gmx.net> <414D7727.8000904@reston.demon.nl> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.7 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2.1) User-Agent: Sylpheed 0.9.7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Native Mozilla-Firebird build via ports? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:22:12 -0000 Hi, On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:10:15 +0200 yuri van Overmeeren wrote: > 'Firebird' is now called 'Firefox', you dont have to build it, Native > version is in the packages (version 0.9.3) Oh, yes, I remember... ooops... should've thought of that... Thank you very much, Benjamin -- If cars had improved at [the computer industry's] rate, a Rolls Royce would now cost 10 dollars and get a billion miles per gallon. (Unfortunately, it would probably also have 200-page manual telling how to open the door.) -- Andrew Tanenbaum, "Introduction To Distributed Systems" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 02:34:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19D516A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:34:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6911243D45; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:34:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) id i8J2YWJE028156; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:34:32 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:34:32 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: timh@tjhawkins.com Message-ID: <20040919023432.GA7981@dan.emsphone.com> References: <010801c49dee$72cc5eb0$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> <1095546154.671.6.camel@elemental.DashEvil> <010e01c49df0$a5b79400$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <010e01c49df0$a5b79400$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.3-BETA4 X-message-flag: Outlook Error User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:24:40 +0000 cc: freebsd-threads@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 02:34:35 -0000 In the last episode (Sep 18), timh@tjhawkins.com said: > Your taking it the wrong way, I was simply asking a question to the > developers to confirm this. > > I have standardized on FreeBSD. > > I apologized if I made it seem like I was trolling, not my intention. > > If a business were to standardize on FreeBSD, they would love to know if the > multithreading issues would be fixed completely correctly not just > 'work-arounds'. So far you have only mentioned the word "issues". Do you have a particular one in mind? Maybe your questions would be better answered on the freebsd-threads list. Make sure you include your OS version, threads library you are using, the application you are using, and your specific problem. CC: redirected appropriately. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 12:26:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A926416A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:26:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.47]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D5443D1D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:26:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from hpota@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin08-en2 [10.13.10.153]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id i8JCQID5005287 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (host217-42-111-1.range217-42.btcentralplus.com [217.42.111.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id i8JCQEvl003400 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:26:17 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:28:45 +0100 From: Pota Kalima To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Ssh connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:26:18 -0000 I am having trouble connecting TO my base machine which runs release 5.2.1 from 2 other machines (Mac OS X, and Windoz). I can connect to the OS X machine FROM this base machine as well as from the windoz machine. When attempting connection from OS X I get the following message: Yes Master? ssh -v pota@192.168.0.5 OpenSSH_3.6.1p1+CAN-2004-0175, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090702f debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh_config debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted. debug1: Connecting to 192.168.0.5 [192.168.0.5] port 22. debug1: connect to address 192.168.0.5 port 22: Permission denied ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.5 port 22: Permission denied I have checked to see that sshd is running at start-up. When I "ps -aux" I see that /usr/bin/sshd is one of the processes running. The ssh_config file on both the base machine and Mac OS X appear identical to me. Grateful for any help. Pota From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 12:37:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02FD16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:37:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4CD43D39 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:37:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1])i8JCbSZI094815 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:37:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i8JCbSpf094814; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:37:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:37:28 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: "Michael G. Goodell" Message-ID: <20040919123728.GH51161@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , "Michael G. Goodell" , FreeBSD Questions References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="poemUeGtc2GQvHuH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:37:28 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: KDE / kdegraphics3 Build Failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:37:36 -0000 --poemUeGtc2GQvHuH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 10:48:33PM -0600, Michael G. Goodell wrote: > When I did a make "install clean" on the /usr/ports/x11/kde3 port it built > for a quite a while then died with this error: >=20 > /usr/local/include/kjs/lookup.h:96: warning: non-static const member `con= st > char* const KJS::HashTable::sbase' in class without a constructor gmake[3= ]: > *** [SVGColorProfileElement.lo] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/kdegraphics3/work/kdegraphics-3.3.0/ksvg/dom' gmake[= 2]: > *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/kdegraphics3/work/kdegraphics-3.3.0/ksvg' gmake[1]: = *** > [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/kdegraphics3/work/kdegraphics-3.3.0' gmake: *** [all] > Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/kdegraphics3. *** > Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/kde3. >=20 > I was told that I should replace the file /usr/include/sys/endian.h with a > new one that was emailed to me by a maintainer. It seems to have worked ok > but my question is this: I did a complete cvsup update just prior to > building kde3 and built he kernel and world on: Aug 27 22:24:12 MDT 2004 - > would not have rebuilding my kernel / cvsup fetched this new endian.h fil= e? > If not why? That's the thing when corresponding with developers: they may well ask you to test out patches they've literally just written. Seeing as you seem to have had a good result from that, I'd expect the patch (or something equivalent) to make it's way into the system eventually. You didn't say if you were corresponding with a KDE developer or a FreeBSD kernel developer -- as the file that was replaced is part of the FreeBSD system, a KDE person would have to pass it over to the FreeBSD side for review. Even so, the patch would generally be committed to 6-CURRENT first, for testing, and then merged into 5-STABLE and maybe 4-STABLE after some time. At the moment however 5-STABLE is in a source code freeze prior to the release of 5.3-RELEASE, so anything added there has to pass through the even more rigourous examination of the release engineering team. On the other hand, it could be a well-known fix that enables that software to build on an older version of the system: you don't say which system version you're running, but if it's older than 4.10-RELEASE or it it's one of the 5.x preview releases (5.2.1-RELEASE or earlier) -- then that patch wouldn't be applied to those versions[1]. In which case, you'ld either have to always apply the patch manually whenever you did a buildworld, or you'ld have to upgrade to a newer version of the system where it would be incorporated. Or the KDE folks might possibly incorporate a work-around into the kde3 port to enable it to build cleanly on earlier system versions. =20 > I hope I posted this OK - I am new to the mailing list thing. Seems fine to me. Cheers, Matthew [1] The project guarrantees that the -RELEASE branches will maintain a stable API/ABI and that only security patches will be applied. Although they have moved to saying 'Security+Major Errata' for 4.10-RELEASE. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --poemUeGtc2GQvHuH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTX2IiD657aJF7eIRAgTyAKC4/66qK4wyYWuGUUMNAOyYveXh7QCcDmIW WrmM+8eI9ZFvB0oQ/FRFE2k= =NKcb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --poemUeGtc2GQvHuH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 12:55:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BF016A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:55:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web51304.mail.yahoo.com (web51304.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.38.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C829243D1D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:55:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gooober33-freebsd@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040919125537.5311.qmail@web51304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.23.53.219] by web51304.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:55:37 PDT Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: BSDjunkie To: FreeBSD Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: ATAPICAM - cdrecord will not recognize my DVD burner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gooober33-freebsd@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 12:55:38 -0000 FreeBSD Enthusiasts, I have been using cdrecord since I built my system. I have an Asus A7N8X delux motherboard, AMD 3200+ cpu, 2G of ram and (2) 15,000 rpm scsi drives. I recently bought a Toshiba DVD+r/-r burner, which I replaced my DVDr/CDRW drive with. The new drive is detected at bootup: acd0: DVDR at ata0-master PIO4 However, cdrecord --scanbus no longer can see the drive through scsi emulation. I tried to load the cam module, but it is already loaded. I am using 5.2.1-RELEASE-p9. Any pointers in the right direction are appreciated. Thanks for your consideration, Mark Withers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:00:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B491316A4D2 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:00:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from infidel.fajita.org (oldhallfarm.demon.co.uk [80.176.128.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C10C43D1D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:00:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lewiz@majic.fajita.org) Received: from majic.fajita.org (majic.fajita.org [192.168.0.4]) by infidel.fajita.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i8JD0LiI042447; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:00:21 GMT (envelope-from lewiz@majic.fajita.org) Received: (from lewiz@localhost) by majic.fajita.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id i8JD0Kos042446; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:00:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from lewiz) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:00:20 +0100 From: Lewis Thompson To: Hotmail Message-ID: <20040919130020.GA39188@fajita.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 90A4 939E 3847 A3E4 8103 2A48 22DA B428 542F ED3F X-GPG-Info: http://www.lewiz.org/~lewiz/pgpkey / horowitz.surfnet.nl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:00:36 -0000 --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 08:16:39PM -0400, Hotmail wrote: > I Bought from you FreeBSD 4.10 v, my main concern after I installed it > in my laptop I have trouble defining my network wireless card "Linksys > wireless -B" and the network, How can I do that?. Also Do I need the > device wi0?, and how can I find it? I have a Linksys Wireless-B PCI card and it's not the same as all of the other Linksys wireless cards. It is not supported by FreeBSD. However, if you are willing to get your hands dirty you could upgrade to 5.3BETA4 and then play with if_ndis, which will allow you to use a Windows driver. It works really well for my Sony wireless card. Best wishes, -lewiz. --=20 I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. --Bob Dylan, 1964. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -| msn:lewiz@fajita.org | jabber:lewiz@jabber.org | url:www.lewiz.org |- --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTYLkItq0KFQv7T8RAllcAKDw9VBBNtJA6R771ktZE2yTrV7zkwCfaZrU DONqSAvIeLNHSKrQeyRfnqo= =v8cU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:00:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E72E16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:00:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5630943D46 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:00:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk ([IPv6:::1]) i8JCxUv0095007 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:59:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i8JCwTml095002; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:58:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:58:29 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: NetAdmin Message-ID: <20040919125829.GI51161@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , NetAdmin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1095572412.59753.18.camel@foxdaemon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zgY/UHCnsaNnNXRx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1095572412.59753.18.camel@foxdaemon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:59:40 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic: rtqkill route really not free X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:00:46 -0000 --zgY/UHCnsaNnNXRx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 01:40:12AM -0400, NetAdmin wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 and today was the second time in 3 > days that my box has rebooted with (panic: rtqkill route really not > free). I've looked on the web but can't find anything relevant. Has > anyone else run across this? If so, could you point me to some help in > trying to figure out how to correct it? Take a look at=20 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/ke= rneldebug.html If you can configure your system to preserve a crash dump and extract from it a backtrace which you then use send-pr(1) to send in, you should find a developer willing to help you. See also Michael Lucas' Big Scary Daemon articles: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2002/03/21/Big_Scary_Daemons.html http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2002/04/04/Big_Scary_Daemons.html However, crash bugs like this do not appear spontaneously: something in your environment changed to cause the problem. A prime suspect would be hardware failure -- if you have the resources to do so, try swapping out components to see if you can isolate the problem. Don't forget to swap out the simplest parts, like network cables. Another prime suspect would be recent changes made to the configuration of your system or the network it is attached to. Given the nature of the panic, changes to the way routing is done would be a good place to start investigating. (Nb. if it turns out to be a change that someone else made on a machine elsewhere on your network, then reporting the problem to the FreeBSD developers would become imperative: remote crash bugs are very bad news indeed) This topic is best dealt with on the freebsd-stable@... list -- please post any follow up there. (Reply-to: set appropriately). Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --zgY/UHCnsaNnNXRx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTYJ1iD657aJF7eIRAuoHAJ41JdFWZ9wwRJ6NNMA5cZdDGFePwQCgsS75 +QhMCddVR/wX2gHPod0oqyc= =b5Vs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zgY/UHCnsaNnNXRx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:01:32 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FA416A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:01:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ix.networx.com.sg (ix.networx.com.sg [202.172.254.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF47943D41 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:01:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from john@ix.networx.com.sg) Received: from ix.networx.com.sg (john@localhost.networx.com.sg [127.0.0.1]) by ix.networx.com.sg (8.12.11/8.11.3) with ESMTP id i8JD5CS0017707 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:05:13 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from john@ix.networx.com.sg) Received: from localhost (john@localhost)i8JD5B3q017704 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:05:12 +0800 (SGT) (envelope-from john@ix.networx.com.sg) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:05:11 +0800 (SGT) From: John Lee To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040919210416.X17597@ix.networx.com.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: lastlog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:01:32 -0000 Dear guys, How do i retrieve last login details for JUN-2004 as I can only see SEP-04 now.. last | grep user --> only shows SEP i guess How can i get JUNE? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:07:04 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BC516A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:07:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta13.adelphia.net (mta13.mail.adelphia.net [68.168.78.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B07743D1D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:07:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lists@mactutor.biz) Received: from [192.168.0.20] (really [68.64.69.17]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040919130702.UNHH9978.mta13.adelphia.net@[192.168.0.20]>; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:07:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: mailing lists at MacTutor Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:07:02 -0400 To: Pota Kalima X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ssh connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:07:04 -0000 Are you running a firewall? On Sep 19, 2004, at 8:28 AM, Pota Kalima wrote: > I am having trouble connecting TO my base machine which runs release > 5.2.1 > from 2 other machines (Mac OS X, and Windoz). I can connect to the OS X > machine FROM this base machine as well as from the windoz machine. > > When attempting connection from OS X I get the following message: > > Yes Master? ssh -v pota@192.168.0.5 > OpenSSH_3.6.1p1+CAN-2004-0175, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL > 0x0090702f > debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh_config > debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be > trusted. > debug1: Connecting to 192.168.0.5 [192.168.0.5] port 22. > debug1: connect to address 192.168.0.5 port 22: Permission denied > ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.5 port 22: Permission denied > > I have checked to see that sshd is running at start-up. When I "ps > -aux" I > see that /usr/bin/sshd is one of the processes running. > The ssh_config file on both the base machine and Mac OS X appear > identical > to me. > > Grateful for any help. > > Pota > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Alexander Sendzimir (owner) 802 863 5502 MacTutor: Apple Mac OS X Consulting info@mactutor.biz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:07:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7FA16A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:07:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F1D43D2D; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:07:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8D169A87; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:07:42 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Message-Id: <20040919090742.5ad5e124.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <010801c49dee$72cc5eb0$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> References: <010801c49dee$72cc5eb0$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: TROLLING!! (Re: Please explain.) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:07:45 -0000 Look. It's simple. Don't come on to a FreeBSD mailing list calling FreeBSD names, and then get upset when people call you a Troll. If you don't like how FreeBSD works or how it's being developed, use something else, or help the developers improve it. Otherwise, get the hell off this mailing list. Go to slashdot or something. wrote: > Ask the FreeBSD developers, any of them with honesty should tell you or > proof me false. I dare you to proof this false, I would be so happy if you > did. Just because I'm using MS Mailer does not reflect whom I am. I have > only 1 MS workstation with 9 others unix. > > I expected a mature response from most of you, calling names is NOT the way > to resolve problems. I just want an answer to see if this is true. > > **Is it true**? This is what I've noticed myself and many high-scale > developers. > > Thank you > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "steveb99" > To: > Cc: ; ; > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 8:09 PM > Subject: RE: Please explain. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > > > Emanuel Strobl > > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:41 PM > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; freebsd-smp@freebsd.org; > > > timh@tjhawkins.com > > > Subject: Re: Please explain. > > > > > > Am Sonntag, 19. September 2004 01:08 schrieb timh@tjhawkins.com: > > > > 2 Major Issues: > > > > > > Why should one answer to this email? Use what ever you think > > > qualifies your needs! > > > > > > > Just a troll, look at all the cross-posting. > > > > Steve Barnette > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:07:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018B916A4D0 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:07:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.x9media.com (mail.x9media.com [81.209.147.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F64743D2F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:07:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from thomas.may@x9media.com) X-AuthUser: thomas.may@x9media.com Received: from PC01 (217.82.19.22:12595) by mail.x9media.com with [XMail 1.20 ESMTP Server] ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:18:37 +0200 From: "Thomas May" To: Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:07:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcSeSZ88JaF7Ku/lSSuG6O7T3SZLhw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: <20040919130756.0F64743D2F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: iam looking for the php5 java extensions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:07:57 -0000 does anyone know if a php5 java extension port is available. thanx thomas --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 13.09.2004 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:11:37 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B4416A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:11:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D8643D31 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:11:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i8JDBVH0095210 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:11:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i8JDBUZZ095205; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:11:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:11:30 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: "W. D." Message-ID: <20040919131130.GJ51161@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , "W. D." , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, samba@lists.samba.org References: <20040918044315.GE67689@wantadilla.lemis.com> <200409171702.58905.jtoung@arc.nasa.gov> <20040918044315.GE67689@wantadilla.lemis.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20040919022423.068485d0@209.152.117.178> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3bvv0EcKsvvYeex" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20040919022423.068485d0@209.152.117.178> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:11:31 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: samba@lists.samba.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba Configuration Options for small 2-3 person office? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:11:37 -0000 --u3bvv0EcKsvvYeex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 02:28:22AM -0500, W. D. wrote: > After 'make install', this appears: >=20 > lqqqqqqqq samba configuration options qqqqqqqqqk > x x > x Please select desired options: x > x lqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk x > x x [ ] syslog With syslog support x x > x x [ ] ssl With ssl support x x > x x [ ] ldap With LDAP2 support x x > x x [ ] nocups Without CUPS x x > x x [ ] acl With ACL support x x > x x [ ] utmp With UTMP support x x > x x [ ] msdfs With MSDFS support x x > x x [ ] quota With Quota support x x > x x [ ] recycle With Recycle Bin x x > x x [ ] audit With Audit x x > x x [ ] winbind With Winbind x x > x x [ ] wbauth With Winbind Auth Challenge x x > x mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj x > tqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqu > x [ OK ] Cancel x > mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj >=20 > Which should be checked? The answer to that depends very much on your environment and what you are trying to do with Samba. However, the rules of thumb are: =20 * If you don't know what an option does leave it on the default setting. * Don't turn on anything unless you actually need that functionality. All of those options switch on or off corresponding optional parts of the Samba suite -- refer to the documentation supplied with the Samba sources and on the http://www.samba.org/ website to find out what they all do and to if you need them. Be prepared to iterate through re-building the port a few times until you get the settings right -- use the command 'make configure' to change the settings, as you won't automatically get that pop-up again once you've been through it once. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --u3bvv0EcKsvvYeex Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTYWCiD657aJF7eIRAiE/AJ9epfTWBOvAClVo1rQuk4EKchl8ewCgoE9F GUZLDbE7pTjKdTixuTRNKk8= =gV/M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3bvv0EcKsvvYeex-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:13:55 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F2816A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:13:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from server1.ultratrends.com (server1.ultratrends.com [205.206.59.239]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A985843D41; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:13:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trodat@ultratrends.com) Received: from server1.ultratrends.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) i8JCDrnH005889; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:13:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from trodat@ultratrends.com) Received: from localhost (trodat@localhost)i8JCDr1B005886; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:13:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from trodat@ultratrends.com) X-Authentication-Warning: server1.ultratrends.com: trodat owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:13:53 -0600 (MDT) From: Technical Director To: timh@tjhawkins.com In-Reply-To: <010e01c49df0$a5b79400$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> Message-ID: <20040919055918.A5844@server1.ultratrends.com> References: <010801c49dee$72cc5eb0$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> <010e01c49df0$a5b79400$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please explain. (What is HawkinsOS?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:13:55 -0000 Err, maybe you should use ... HawkinsOS??? T.J.HAWKINS Secure, Stable, Supported Operating System... I really enjoyed that. Maybe this inquiry is to get the developers to work out HawkinsOS, whatever version of FreeBSD you sed'd s/FreeBSD/HawkinsOS/g, problems with multi-threading? My troll addition. PS Your site says you are a Programmer, providing proof of concepts for what you are discussing shouldn't be to hard. *** On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: > Your taking it the wrong way, I was simply asking a question to the > developers to confirm this. > > I have standardized on FreeBSD. > > I apologized if I made it seem like I was trolling, not my intention. > > If a business were to standardize on FreeBSD, they would love to know if the > multithreading issues would be fixed completely correctly not just > 'work-arounds'. > > > sorry and thanks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Laverdure" > To: > Cc: ; ; > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 5:22 PM > Subject: Re: Please explain. > > > > On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 02:14, timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: > > > Ask the FreeBSD developers, any of them with honesty should tell you or > > > proof me false. I dare you to proof this false, I would be so happy if > you > > > did. Just because I'm using MS Mailer does not reflect whom I am. I have > > > only 1 MS workstation with 9 others unix. > > > > > > I expected a mature response from most of you, calling names is NOT the > way > > > to resolve problems. I just want an answer to see if this is true. > > > > > > **Is it true**? This is what I've noticed myself and many high-scale > > > developers. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > 1) The burden of proof is on the person making the allegations. > > > > 2) Calling a troll on being a troll is mature. > > > > 3) If you believe it to be true, then don't use FreeBSD. Nobody is tying > > your hands here. You believe DragonFlyBSD to be superior? Then use it. > > > > Maybe I just don't see the big deal here, but the developers owe you > > nothing. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:17:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E632F16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:17:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out004.verizon.net (out004pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4391543D31 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:17:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jarsulicm@verizon.net) Received: from [192.168.0.55] ([151.201.223.158]) by out004.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040919131746.YNJJ28868.out004.verizon.net@[192.168.0.55]> for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 08:17:46 -0500 Message-ID: <414D4EA7.1080104@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:17:27 +0000 From: Mike Jarsulic User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040907) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out004.verizon.net from [151.201.223.158] at Sun, 19 Sep 2004 08:17:46 -0500 Subject: Portupgrade error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jarsulicm@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:17:48 -0000 I am getting the following error while running portupgrade: # portupgrade -arC [Updating the pkgdb in /var/db/pkg ... - 302 packages found(-0 +5) ..... done] /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:323:in `deorigin': cannot convert nil into String (PkgDB::DBError) from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:916:in `tsort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:915:in `each' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:915:in `tsort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:907:in `each' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:907:in `tsort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:929:in `sort_build' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkgdb.rb:933:in `sort_build!' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:674:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `initialize' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `new' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:207:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:1845 Has anyone seen this before and have any suggestions to fix it? -- Mike Jarsulic From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:20:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5960316A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:20:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.2.69.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0BF43D3F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:20:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) i8JDK5fg095327 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:20:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: (from matthew@localhost)i8JDK427095326; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:20:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:20:04 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman To: John Lee Message-ID: <20040919132004.GK51161@happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , John Lee , questions@freebsd.org References: <20040919210416.X17597@ix.networx.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9RxwyT9MtfFuvYYZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040919210416.X17597@ix.networx.com.sg> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.5.6 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:20:05 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version devel-20040904, clamav-milter version 0.75l on smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lastlog X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:20:11 -0000 --9RxwyT9MtfFuvYYZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 09:05:11PM +0800, John Lee wrote: > How do i retrieve last login details for JUN-2004 > as I can only see SEP-04 now.. >=20 > last | grep user --> only shows SEP i guess >=20 > How can i get JUNE? Look at the saved copies of wtmp under /var/log. Hmmm... By default newsyslog(1) is setup to keep 4 old copies of the wtmp file around, and to switch to a new file at the start of every month, so you should have: wtmp September (ie. this month) wtmp.0 August wtmp.1 July wtmp.2 June wtmp.3 May still on your system. (Any earlier than May and you'ld have had to retrieve the appropriate wtmp file from backup) So, try: last -f /var/log/wtmp.2 user Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK --9RxwyT9MtfFuvYYZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTYeEiD657aJF7eIRAgloAJsGN/Pl68IOLFwJL4HstiF+22Jj6gCdF1W8 eBq8f5wjnPyoEhu2rXtilsQ= =JCyH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9RxwyT9MtfFuvYYZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:37:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD73716A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:37:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web41206.mail.yahoo.com (web41206.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A050943D55 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:37:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from susmit1976@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20040919133714.63458.qmail@web41206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.95.198.230] by web41206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:37:14 PDT Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:37:14 -0700 (PDT) From: susmit sarkar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: deleting mails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:37:15 -0000 Dear Sir/Madam, I know that the question I am asking might sound very stupid. But it has me really perplexed. It relates to Unix mail. I use the d command to delete mails. Like d or d But sometimes I find that the mails get deleted and sometimes not. I want the mails that I delete to be deleted sure shot. I have tried exiting using q but still the mails are there when I check back later. We have a BSD system. Please advise me how I can delete mail that I want deleted without the fear of it reappearing again when I log in and check the next time. Regards Susmit --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:44:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CA416A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:44:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54AF143D31 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:44:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from europax@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (c-67-169-203-186.client.comcast.net[67.169.203.186]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20040919134433013008mdfee> (Authid: europax); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:44:33 +0000 Message-ID: <414D8D78.6090807@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:45:28 -0700 From: Rob User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040816 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030305050305090607040906" Subject: IP Firewall blocks cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:44:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030305050305090607040906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seems to work with everything else incl. ftp. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Rob. --------------030305050305090607040906 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ipf.rules" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ipf.rules" block in log all pass out all pass out on lo all pass in on lo all pass out quick on bfe0 proto tcp/udp from any to any port > 1024 pass in quick on bfe0 proto icmp all icmp-type 0 pass in quick on bfe0 proto icmp all icmp-type 3 pass in quick on bfe0 proto icmp all icmp-type 11 block in on bfe0 proto tcp all flags S/SA block out on bfe0 proto tcp all flags SA/SA pass in quick on bfe0 proto tcp from any to any port = 22 flags S/SA keep state pass in quick on bfe0 proto tcp from any to any port = 25 flags S/SA keep state pass out on bfe0 proto tcp all keep state block return-rst in on bfe0 proto tcp from any to any port = 113 pass in on bfe0 proto tcp/udp from any port = 53 to any pass in on bfe0 proto tcp/udp from any port = 67 to any pass out on bfe0 proto tcp/udp from any port = 68 to any pass in on bfe0 proto tcp from any port = 80 to any #block out quick on bfe0 proto tcp from any port 5999><6011 to any #block out quick on bfe0 proto tcp from any port 5899><5911 to any #block out quick on bfe0 from any port = 2049 to any #block out quick on bfe0 from any port 136><140 to any --------------030305050305090607040906-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:56:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E173816A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:56:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9794B43D1F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:56:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 14659 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2004 13:56:50 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.no-ip.com) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Sep 2004 13:56:50 -0000 Received: by be-well.no-ip.com (Postfix, from userid 1147) id AAAF6E; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: digish reshamwala References: <2908ad23d012.414af836@usc.edu> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 19 Sep 2004 09:56:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <2908ad23d012.414af836@usc.edu> Message-ID: <441xgy1hwe.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86-4 config issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:56:53 -0000 Don't top-post, please. http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html digish reshamwala writes: > After reducing the secure lever I was able to configure the XFree86 by using > > #XFree86 -configure & then > #cp XF86Config.new /etc/X11/XF86Config > (Copying it in common location where XFree86 can find it) > > But afterthat, whenever I tried to start the X11 using > > #statrx > > the system simply froze?? > > Also when I tried to test the existing configuration by giving > # XFree86 -xf86config XF86Config.new > > It simply frozes the OS??? > > Any idea whats wrong? Can u please suggest/help asap Look at the log files (in /var/log) that XFree86 is producing to see what *it* thinks is happening. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org:8088/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 13:58:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D503D16A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:58:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail4.speakeasy.net (mail4.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFEF43D31 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:58:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 15379 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2004 13:58:27 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.no-ip.com) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Sep 2004 13:58:27 -0000 Received: by be-well.no-ip.com (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D54F5E; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Sender: lowell@be-well.ilk.org To: Andy Smith References: <20040918004111.GA73323@caffreys.strugglers.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 19 Sep 2004 09:58:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20040918004111.GA73323@caffreys.strugglers.net> Message-ID: <44wtyqz7gd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: /var/db/pkg/cups-base-1.1.20.0/+CONTENTS: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:58:27 -0000 Andy Smith writes: > Hi folks, > > I don't know what I have done to cause this, but now every use of > the various portutils results in this message: > > /var/db/pkg/cups-base-1.1.20.0/+CONTENTS: No such file or directory > > That files does indeed not exist, althoug the directory does and the > port is installed. > > Based on googling I have tried running pkgdb -F and portsdb -u, but > it doesn't help. Both run without error. > > Does anyone have any ideas? Force a reinstall of that package? The ports tools are indeed going to have a lot of problems if your package database is incomplete like that... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 14:09:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4F716A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:09:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay2-f9.bay2.hotmail.com [65.54.247.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95F243D5D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:09:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lostgweilo@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:09:05 -0700 Received: from 202.156.2.155 by by2fd.bay2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:09:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [202.156.2.155] X-Originating-Email: [lostgweilo@hotmail.com] X-Sender: lostgweilo@hotmail.com From: "lost gweilo" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:09:05 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2004 14:09:05.0689 (UTC) FILETIME=[392BB890:01C49E52] Subject: Frustration: the only thing mounting with NFS client :-) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:09:06 -0000 Hi there, I am trying to access an NFS server (Debian Linux, host name "lg") from my FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE system (host name "gw") on my LAN. My basic system info: gw# uname -mnprs FreeBSD gw 4.10-STABLE i386 i386 It doesn't seem to work: gw# mount -v -t nfs lg:/mnt/tt/music /root/uu lg:/mnt/tt/music: NFSPROC_NULL: RPC: Timed out ^C It works when I try on the server though... (Hopefully this also shows that basic networking is OK between the two boxes...) gw# ssh lg Password: root@lostgweilo:~# pwd pwd /root root@lostgweilo:~# mkdir uu mkdir uu root@lostgweilo:~# mount -v -t nfs lg:/mnt/tt/music /root/uu mount -v -t nfs lg:/mnt/tt/music /root/uu lg:/mnt/tt/music on /root/uu type nfs (rw,addr=127.0.0.1) root@lostgweilo:~# exit exit logout Connection to lg closed. RPC calls seem OK either with TCP or UDP: gw# rpcinfo -u lg nfs program 100003 version 2 ready and waiting program 100003 version 3 ready and waiting gw# rpcinfo -t lg nfs program 100003 version 2 ready and waiting program 100003 version 3 ready and waiting I read in "Managing NFS and NIS" by Hal Stern, in Chapter 10 p. 231 that that "rpcinfo -u" is supposed to call the null procedure of the RPC server... The error message I get from mount seems related... But I have no clue, it just does the same thing all the time: gw# mount -v -t nfs lg:/mnt/tt/music /root/uu lg:/mnt/tt/music: NFSPROC_NULL: RPC: Timed out ^C I also noticed that "portmap" doesn't run on my client. It won't start. Is it needed, for an NFS client? gw# portmap -d portmap[36419]: cannot bind udp: Address already in use gw# tail /var/log/messages Sep 17 05:00:00 gw newsyslog[90252]: logfile turned over due to size>100K Sep 17 16:50:41 gw dhclient: New Network Number: 192.168.1.0 Sep 17 16:50:41 gw dhclient: New Broadcast Address: 192.168.1.255 Sep 17 23:14:55 gw portmap[9379]: cannot bind udp: Address already in use Sep 17 23:15:12 gw portmap[9472]: cannot bind udp: Address already in use Sep 18 00:23:26 gw portmap[36419]: cannot bind udp: Address already in use Naive attempt to investigate the portmap error message: gw# netstat -a -f inet Active Internet connections (including servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) tcp4 0 0 192.168.1.100.4294 lg.ssh ESTABLISHED tcp4 0 0 *.smtp *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.ssh *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.telnet *.* LISTEN tcp4 0 0 *.sunrpc *.* LISTEN udp4 0 0 *.* *.* udp4 0 0 *.sunrpc *.* udp4 0 0 *.syslog *.* udp4 0 0 *.bootpc *.* Basically I have no clue what is going on. I hope you can suggest things to look at. Regards. Lostgweilo _________________________________________________________________ Linguaphone : Learning English? Get Japanese lessons for FREE http://go.msnserver.com/HK/46165.asp From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 14:20:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C14F16A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:20:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from caffreys.strugglers.net (caffreys.strugglers.net [82.195.232.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FCA43D1F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:20:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andy@freebsdwiki.org) Received: by caffreys.strugglers.net (Postfix, from userid 10000) id A514E111981; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:20:19 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:20:19 +0000 From: Andy Smith To: Lowell Gilbert Message-ID: <20040919142019.GI73323@caffreys.strugglers.net> Mail-Followup-To: Lowell Gilbert , FreeBSD-questions References: <20040918004111.GA73323@caffreys.strugglers.net> <44wtyqz7gd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Aheoz1xTfOXEcBpP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44wtyqz7gd.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> X-Uptime: 65 days X-URL: http://freebsdwiki.org/User:Andy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: /var/db/pkg/cups-base-1.1.20.0/+CONTENTS: No such file or directory X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:20:23 -0000 --Aheoz1xTfOXEcBpP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 09:58:26AM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Andy Smith writes: > > I don't know what I have done to cause this, but now every use of > > the various portutils results in this message: > >=20 > > /var/db/pkg/cups-base-1.1.20.0/+CONTENTS: No such file or directory [...] > Force a reinstall of that package? The ports tools are > indeed going to have a lot of problems if your package > database is incomplete like that... I seem to have "fixed" this problem by removing /var/db/pkg/cups-base-1.1.20.0 and then reinstalling the port. --Aheoz1xTfOXEcBpP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTZWjIJm2TL8VSQsRAp03AJ90PfxxaUfuwmkWq7aaR9TVW3syngCfVend Mp+kmf+3WQgPt8eYwXCu8hI= =IZh/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Aheoz1xTfOXEcBpP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 14:29:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13AB716A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:29:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from postfix3-1.free.fr (postfix3-1.free.fr [213.228.0.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F8D43D3F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:29:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from messmate@free.fr) Received: from eric.placeverte.home (lns-vlq-5-82-64-248-126.adsl.proxad.net [82.64.248.126]) by postfix3-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 95547174052 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:29:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:29:30 +0200 From: messmate To: freebsd-questions-en Message-Id: <20040919162930.45a3509f@eric.placeverte.home> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: ~S|{@o1@R1@.oAi5*hm[#*i1`Pk@JI4>Ij**TdOR1Fqp}VrEeVY+@m4"]`j\xX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: kdepim on 5.3-beta4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:29:33 -0000 Hello, i've installed rel 5.3-beta4 but can't install kdepim :( Everething else of kde is installed and runs. Kdepim is needed for several utilitys like keyboard, etc.. Anyone know how to install it ? Thanks in advance -- Amicalement mess-mate From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 14:29:33 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE7516A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:29:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gldis.ca (constans.gldis.ca [66.11.169.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA5E43D3F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:29:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gldisater@gldis.ca) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gldis.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8JEcrZB093842; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:38:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gldisater@gldis.ca) Message-ID: <414D5FDB.4000906@gldis.ca> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 10:30:51 +0000 From: Jeremy Faulkner User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040906) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: arden References: <414CF27E.60709@wingfoot.org> <20040919004838.617c7676@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> <1095590210.2336.12.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1095590210.2336.12.camel@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070303090404090202010105" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 'clamd / ClamAV version 0.65', clamav-milter version '0.60p' X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd Subject: Re: DVD question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:29:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070303090404090202010105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit arden wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 06:48, Vulpes Velox wrote: > the thing i think is missing is a *nix answer to dvd2one > > Arden What features of dvd2one? I googled for and read the website, I don't see anything overly impressive. --------------070303090404090202010105-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 14:57:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A0916A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:57:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.broadpark.no (mail.broadpark.no [217.13.4.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF1D43D3F; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:57:02 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from dwp.des.no (37.80-203-228.nextgentel.com [80.203.228.37]) by mail.broadpark.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974BF36D0; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:57:41 +0200 (MEST) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id CBFA1B85E; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:57:00 +0200 (CEST) To: References: <00d001c49dd4$7382dc40$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> From: des@des.no (=?iso-8859-1?q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:57:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <00d001c49dd4$7382dc40$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> (timh@tjhawkins.com's message of "Sat, 18 Sep 2004 18:08:40 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 14:57:02 -0000 writes: > It appears that FreeBSD have a clear Multi-threading lock-in issue > that needs to be fixed. Not work arounds. According to many freebsd > developers nobody simply wants to fix this, is it true that the > current smp work are just 'work-arounds' not real fixing? Did David Rhodus put you up to this? You should just tell him to do his own dirty work. BTW, the FreeBSD Foundation (http://www.freebsd-foundation.org/) is an independent legal entity which supports, but is not identical with, the FreeBSD Project (http://www.freebsd.org/). Furthermore, be advised that significant portions of FreeBSD were released under licenses that include terms like those reproduced below, and that your web site, http://www.hawkinsos.com/, is in breach of those terms. * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software * must display the following acknowledgements: * This product includes software developed by Jason R. Thorpe * for And Communications, http://www.and.com/ .\" 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software .\" must display the following acknowledgement: .\" This product includes software developed by Winning Strategies, In= c. # 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software # must display the following acknowledgement: # This product includes software developed by the NetBSD # Foundation, Inc. and its contributors. * 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software * must display the following acknowledgement: * "This product includes cryptographic software written by * Eric Young (eay@cryptsoft.com)" DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 15:15:08 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CF516A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:15:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (73.Red-213-97-200.pooles.rima-tde.net [213.97.200.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8328743D1D; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:14:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org) Received: from scienide (scienide.energyhq.es.eu.org [192.168.100.1]) by mindfields.energyhq.es.eu.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E62735821; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:14:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:14:22 +0200 From: Miguel Mendez To: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Message-Id: <20040919171422.155a98c3.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> In-Reply-To: References: <00d001c49dd4$7382dc40$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12-gtk2-20040622 (GTK+ 2.4.9; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__19_Sep_2004_17_14_22_+0200_dodLY9A0D50DifA=" cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org cc: timh@tjhawkins.com Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:15:08 -0000 --Signature=_Sun__19_Sep_2004_17_14_22_+0200_dodLY9A0D50DifA= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:57:00 +0200 des@des.no (Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav) wrote: Hi, > writes: > > It appears that FreeBSD have a clear Multi-threading lock-in issue > > that needs to be fixed. Not work arounds. According to many freebsd > > developers nobody simply wants to fix this, is it true that the > > current smp work are just 'work-arounds' not real fixing? >=20 > Did David Rhodus put you up to this? You should just tell him to do > his own dirty work. Why don't you and Bosko leave the DragonFlyBSD people alone? I don't get it. Are you jealous of their work or what? You're not helping inter-camp relations if you pick on them every time you have an opportunity. I'm sure David would post anything he wants to without resorting to silly games. Cheers, --=20 Miguel Mendez http://www.energyhq.es.eu.org PGP Key: 0xDC8514F1 Note: All HTML and non-english mail goes to /dev/null --Signature=_Sun__19_Sep_2004_17_14_22_+0200_dodLY9A0D50DifA= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBTaJRnLctrNyFFPERAgUDAJ9o4JmXjrj8Uw345a5RmFwlYGqcHwCfT2pH /gIsQ8ZKcmHwHY3gkFFyBgo= =GVB3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__19_Sep_2004_17_14_22_+0200_dodLY9A0D50DifA=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 15:30:06 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883EF16A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:30:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pittgoth.com (14.zlnp1.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.149.111]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95DA43D1F; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:30:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (64-144-75-99.client.dsl.net [64.144.75.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8JFT4ex008677 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:29:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:29:39 -0400 From: Tom Rhodes To: Miguel Mendez Message-Id: <20040919112939.66713788@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20040919171422.155a98c3.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> References: <00d001c49dd4$7382dc40$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> <20040919171422.155a98c3.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: Dag-Erling =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org cc: timh@tjhawkins.com cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:30:06 -0000 On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:14:22 +0200 Miguel Mendez wrote: > On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:57:00 +0200 > des@des.no (Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav) wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > > writes: > > > It appears that FreeBSD have a clear Multi-threading lock-in issue > > > that needs to be fixed. Not work arounds. According to many freebsd > > > developers nobody simply wants to fix this, is it true that the > > > current smp work are just 'work-arounds' not real fixing? > >=20 > > Did David Rhodus put you up to this? You should just tell him to do > > his own dirty work. >=20 > Why don't you and Bosko leave the DragonFlyBSD people alone? I don't get > it. Are you jealous of their work or what? You're not helping > inter-camp relations if you pick on them every time you have an > opportunity. Oh back off; you obviously have only a small part of the story. >=20 > I'm sure David would post anything he wants to without resorting to > silly games. You're correct; he would just slander throughout forums such as /. and the like; that is sooo much better then coming here. Yet, it does keep our lists a little cleaner. --=20 Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 15:47:10 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D681C16A4CF for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:47:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wingfoot.org (caduceus.wingfoot.org [64.32.179.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E8143D39 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:47:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ges@wingfoot.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC83D1F446D; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wingfoot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (caduceus.wingfoot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76555-06; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [64.32.179.50]) by wingfoot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8FD71F446C; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <414DA9F7.7040205@wingfoot.org> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:47:03 -0400 From: Glenn Sieb User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Thunderbird/0.8 Mnenhy/0.6.0.104 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vulpes Velox References: <414CF27E.60709@wingfoot.org> <20040919004838.617c7676@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <20040919004838.617c7676@vixen42.24-119-122-191.cpe.cableone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at wingfoot.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DVD question... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:47:11 -0000 Vulpes Velox said the following on 9/19/2004 1:48 AM: >>I'm pretty sure I can find AVI/MPEG editing packages for BSD easy >>enough. >> >> >avidemux, mplayer, ffmpeg should take care of nearly all of your >needs > > Yup--as I said... :) >>But I'm having a dickens of a time finding something that will let >>me author DVDs. Any pointing in directions or help would be greatly >>appreciated! >> >> > >Try searching the ports tree :P > >man ports > > Y'know--I *had* searched the ports tree. I found one package, but it wasn't anywhere near 'ready' for primetime. /usr/ports/multimedia/dvdauthor From the homepage "A simple set of tools to help you author a DVD. The idea is to be able to create menus, buttons, chapters, etc, but for now you can just take an mpeg stream (as created by mplex -f 8 from mjpegtools 1.6.0) and write it to DVD." I figured maybe I was missing something, so I figured I'd ask. >I've personally have had better luck with mutlimedia and the like >under freebsd, than I ever have under windows. > > Ah, I haven't as of yet. Best, G. -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 15:52:52 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5ED16A4CE; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:52:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from post-23.mail.nl.demon.net (post-23.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F6843D2D; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:52:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dodell@sitetronics.com) Received: from gibsonnet.demon.nl ([82.161.57.57]:14633 helo=[192.168.1.19]) by post-23.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C93ze-000DBF-RX; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:52:50 +0000 Message-ID: <414DAB53.4010902@sitetronics.com> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:52:51 +0200 From: "Devon H. O'Dell" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Rhodes References: <00d001c49dd4$7382dc40$6401a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> <20040919171422.155a98c3.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> <20040919112939.66713788@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20040919112939.66713788@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.org cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.org cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org cc: timh@tjhawkins.com Subject: Re: Please explain. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:52:52 -0000 Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:14:22 +0200 > Miguel Mendez wrote: > > >>On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:57:00 +0200 >>des@des.no (Dag-Erling Smørgrav) wrote: >> >>Hi, >> >> >>> writes: >>> >>>>It appears that FreeBSD have a clear Multi-threading lock-in issue >>>>that needs to be fixed. Not work arounds. According to many freebsd >>>>developers nobody simply wants to fix this, is it true that the >>>>current smp work are just 'work-arounds' not real fixing? >>> >>>Did David Rhodus put you up to this? You should just tell him to do >>>his own dirty work. >> >>Why don't you and Bosko leave the DragonFlyBSD people alone? I don't get >>it. Are you jealous of their work or what? You're not helping >>inter-camp relations if you pick on them every time you have an >>opportunity. > > > Oh back off; you obviously have only a small part of the story. Or perhaps he notices that DES pulled an attack out of thin air, which was unprovoked. The best offense, in this case, is to STFU about your personal feelings about the works of another project. Nobody's getting very far making these attacks. >>I'm sure David would post anything he wants to without resorting to >>silly games. > > > You're correct; he would just slander throughout forums such > as /. and the like; that is sooo much better then coming here. > > Yet, it does keep our lists a little cleaner. > Funny, this entire thread only seems to be polluting the lists. How about you (yes, all you who shout ``don't feed the trolls'') actually _stop_ feeding them for once (or give the guy a reasonable answer; his question was horribly misinformed, but you would have shut him up sooner with facts, rather than attacks), stop making baseless claims, stop attacking other camps, stop attacking each other. I'm sure I'm going to get a bunch of cruft for this. But seriously, quit acking like a bunch of damned 5 year old girls, pulling each other's hair and grow the hell up! --Devon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 16:52:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACC116A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:52:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtprelay04.ispgateway.de (smtprelay04.ispgateway.de [62.67.200.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1542643D2D for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:52:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: (qmail 1298 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2004 16:52:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.48]) ([pbs]775067@[213.54.38.3]) (envelope-sender ) by smtprelay04.ispgateway.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 19 Sep 2004 16:52:42 -0000 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, gooober33-freebsd@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:51:50 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20040919125537.5311.qmail@web51304.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040919125537.5311.qmail@web51304.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200409191851.50472.freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de> Subject: Re: ATAPICAM - cdrecord will not recognize my DVD burner X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:52:46 -0000 On Sunday 19 September 2004 14:55, BSDjunkie wrote: > I have been using cdrecord since I built my system. I > have an Asus A7N8X delux motherboard, AMD 3200+ cpu, > 2G of ram and (2) 15,000 rpm scsi drives. > > I recently bought a Toshiba DVD+r/-r burner, which I > replaced my DVDr/CDRW drive with. > > The new drive is detected at bootup: > > acd0: DVDR at ata0-master > PIO4 Do you later see lines like: cd0 at ata0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd1 at ata1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 cd2 at ata1 bus 0 target 1 lun 0? If not, you probably need to add device atapicam to your kernel configuration. > However, cdrecord --scanbus no longer can see the > drive through scsi emulation. What does it see? Regards Fabian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 19 16:53:47 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8342416A4CE for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:53:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pursued-with.net (adsl-66-125-9-244.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [66.125.9.244]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484E443D2F for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:53:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kevin_stevens@pursued-with.net) Received: from [10.0.1.101] (unknown [10.0.1.101]) by pursued-with.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F71D287DFA for ; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Kevin Stevens Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:55:52 -0700 To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Subject: Re: Ssh connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:53:47 -0000 On Sep 19, 2004, at 05:28, Pota Kalima wrote: > I am having trouble connec