From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 29 10:50: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845CA15981 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:46:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr06.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28246; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:45:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAaya4G2; Wed Sep 29 10:45:22 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17203; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:45:08 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199909291745.KAA17203@usr06.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Filtering port 25 (was Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk To: freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:45:07 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, jack@germanium.xtalwind.net, gjp@in-addr.com, n@nectar.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199909290120.SAA17878@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Sep 28, 99 06:20:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > The theory is that that have "opted" to list their dialup lines with > > the DUL's DNS server, which can tell if an IP address is assigned to > > a dynamic IP address pool. > > > > The fact is that the majority of dialup address blocks listed in the > > DUL are involuntary placement there by third parties. > > WRONG!!! Please read the web pages again... I don't give a flying what they claim, I _know_ an dynamic IP address block which was involuntarily "registered". > > If they (or another dialup IP POP provider) _had_ intentionally > > opted in (I kind of doubt that EarthLink, for example, intentially > > severed the ability of their customers to send email to AOL on a > > voluntary basis, what without a relay infrastructure in place at > > the time), then they are "filtering port 25 at destinations which > > have opted to check the DUL before accepting the SMTP connection". > > Earthlink opted-in to reduce the mail load on abuse@earthlink, simple > economics. EarthLink did not have infrastructure in place to do the mail relay for their own customers at the time of this supposed "opt in". I personnally did the modifications to the InterJet to support this, and they had no server names available to place in my input fields at the time the problems started. This resulted in a significant disruption in service for our installed customer base. Given what I have heard some people say about EarthLink since then, I sincerely question the correctness of your statements that the disruption in customer service was "voluntary". Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message