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Date:      Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:45:07 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (Rodney W. Grimes)
Cc:        tlambert@primenet.com, jack@germanium.xtalwind.net, gjp@in-addr.com, n@nectar.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Filtering port 25 (was Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk
Message-ID:  <199909291745.KAA17203@usr06.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <199909290120.SAA17878@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Sep 28, 99 06:20:28 pm

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> > The theory is that that have "opted" to list their dialup lines with
> > the DUL's DNS server, which can tell if an IP address is assigned to
> > a dynamic IP address pool.
> > 
> > The fact is that the majority of dialup address blocks listed in the
> > DUL are involuntary placement there by third parties.
> 
> WRONG!!!  Please read the web pages again...

I don't give a flying what they claim, I _know_ an dynamic IP address
block which was involuntarily "registered".


> > If they (or another dialup IP POP provider) _had_ intentionally
> > opted in (I kind of doubt that EarthLink, for example, intentially
> > severed the ability of their customers to send email to AOL on a
> > voluntary basis, what without a relay infrastructure in place at
> > the time), then they are "filtering port 25 at destinations which
> > have opted to check the DUL before accepting the SMTP connection".
> 
> Earthlink opted-in to reduce the mail load on abuse@earthlink, simple
> economics.

EarthLink did not have infrastructure in place to do the mail relay
for their own customers at the time of this supposed "opt in".  I
personnally did the modifications to the InterJet to support this,
and they had no server names available to place in my input fields
at the time the problems started.  This resulted in a significant
disruption in service for our installed customer base.

Given what I have heard some people say about EarthLink since then,
I sincerely question the correctness of your statements that the
disruption in customer service was "voluntary".


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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or previous employers.


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