Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 10:38:50 -0700 From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> To: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Cc: Bruce Simpson <bms@fastmail.net>, Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@freebsd.org>, "src-committers@freebsd.org" <src-committers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r284198 - head/bin/ls Message-ID: <CAJ-VmomkOkT2hEpUtmMsr7sYYw7iUuDtZ9geczQrF=KOCz8r9g@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20150614171031.GA5857@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <201506100127.t5A1RdX6051959@svn.freebsd.org> <20150612204309.11dd3391@kan> <20150613024916.GA98218@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <1434208622.1415.57.camel@freebsd.org> <C88CB169-12FE-4692-92AA-5C7D41BB61DF@FreeBSD.org> <557C661F.8080104@freebsd.org> <860017ED-D754-450C-865D-2D81A30C2212@xcllnt.net> <CAG=rPVd93Q18aYnSGSf_QH4C08RCq5wsdKQSNYTgWQ2huTbUHQ@mail.gmail.com> <20150614100045.GF58397@zxy.spb.ru> <557D55CB.5050009@fastmail.net> <20150614171031.GA5857@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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On 14 June 2015 at 10:10, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:22:03AM +0100, Bruce Simpson wrote: >> >> But I have yet to see a coherent argument here -- size(1) numbers, RSS >> figures etc. -- about how it allegedly adds bloat. Most of what I've >> seen so far is POLA, NIH resistance, and hand-wavery. >> > > It is not alleged. I actaully measured the bloat libxo > caused when w(1) was converted. > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2015-March/054917.html > > Here's the bloat with ls(1) > > % ldd /bin/ls > /bin/ls: > libutil.so.9 => /lib/libutil.so.9 (0x2807d000) > libncursesw.so.8 => /lib/libncursesw.so.8 (0x2808f000) > libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x280db000) > % ll /bin/ls > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 28568 Jun 7 21:01 /bin/ls* > > % ldd /bin/ls > /bin/ls: > libutil.so.9 => /lib/libutil.so.9 (0x2807d000) > libncursesw.so.8 => /lib/libncursesw.so.8 (0x2808f000) > libxo.so.0 => /lib/libxo.so.0 (0x280db000) > libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x280ec000) > laptop-kargl:kargl[204] ll /bin/ls > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 31376 Jun 14 10:06 /bin/ls* Plus 60k for the shared library. I don't mind that too much right now - it's around an extra 4k of overhead per binary right now. -adrian
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