From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 1 14:49:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from topaz.mdcc.cx (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D2637B405 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from k7.mavetju.org (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by topaz.mdcc.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283282B68F; Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:49:36 +0100 (CET) Received: by k7.mavetju.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4C9B0B4; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:37:19 +1100 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:37:19 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Re[2]: Tiny starter configuration for FreeBSD Message-ID: <20011102093719.K35710@k7.mavetju.org> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , Anthony Atkielski , FreeBSD Questions References: <00e601c16302$3a03da60$6600000a@columbia> <007301c1631d$51fb9c50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <007301c1631d$51fb9c50$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 10:36:45PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 10:36:45PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Andrew writes: > > Now those are three majorly useful application > > you've tried right there... > I disagree. I don't need a clock or eyes that follow my cursor. Most of the > applications I use that really require a GUI don't run on UNIX, anyway, but > perhaps there are things out there that I haven't yet discovered (for X). Maybe you're forgetting a thing about X here: It's designed as a portable, network-transparent window system. Besides the applications running on your local machine you can see the graphical output of applications running on other systems. In my first job, all I had was an X-terminal. In the beginning I thought this was a limiting me in my tasks, but shortly after I found out that it let me concentrate more in my work. It also showed me that I didn't have to consider the thing what's on my desk as the computer which runs everything, it was so easy to connect to another computer (these were the fast ones :-) on which I ran the application with the (graphical) output projected to my screen. I also didn't have to worry about graphical applications which were only running on a HP-UX machine while the rest of the machines were SunOS and NetBSD: just login and start the application -> the graphical output came on directly on your screen. At that job I learned to look further than what's on my own machine and what's on my own desk. It expanded my view on computers, networks and security and how these things interact. I'm not saying that this setup is good for everybody, but its design let you go further than "this is my computer and that is where my view of the world will end". Edwin ps. and I didn't tell you about the 18 xload-applications showing up on my monitor. -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Interested in MUDs? Visit Fatal Dimensions: ------------------+ http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message