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Date:      Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:34:46 +0300
From:      Danny Braniss <danny@cs.huji.ac.il>
To:        "Willem Jan Withagen" <wjw@withagen.nl>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ethercons updated for -CURRENT 
Message-ID:  <20040710123453.0C23A43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: Message from "Willem Jan Withagen" <wjw@withagen.nl>  <02a601c46674$fc4e0eb0$471b3dd4@digiware.nl> 

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> > > On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:40, Danny Braniss wrote:
> > > > The upshot off all this is, if the SOL works, then we can kiss KVM away,
> > > > and as Robert said, just power and ethernet and you are set.
> > >
> > > You could probably use fwcons (I've only used it a little to test) but I
> think
> > > once it's enabled the target doesn't have to be cooperative for it to work
> > > (although then you need to run firewire to your boxes as well as ethernet)
> > >
> >
> > serial/firewire are ok for one computer, but when you have several, then
> > this does not scale (imaging a cabinet with 30 1U boxes :-).
> >
> > appart from that, ethernet (once you overcome some basic security issues)
> > is great to get the console.
> 
> If you can afford a rack with 30 1U servers you could also spend money on KVM
> technology over IP...

you are still left with allot of cables (keyboard+mouse+vga)

> They range from fairly basic, just keyboard and VGA
> as far as Hires screen, mouse, keyboard and reset.

seen it, tested it, expensive and the software does not run under FreeBSD

> 
> I think I saw some on a trade show as low as 150 Euro,
> ethernet in/out so you don't need many extra ports, just loop all KVM together.

> Problem is I lost the bag with all the leaflets..... :(
shame on you :-)

the fact is that there is hardware on these server class motherboards
that do/should do this SOL.

btw, the Intel/IBM BladeServers can give you the console via VNC, but
that's no fun - and very slow.

danny




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