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Date:      Sun, 3 Aug 1997 17:27:03 +0930 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        davidn@labs.usn.blaze.net.au (David Nugent)
Cc:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, asami@cs.berkeley.edu, andreas@klemm.gtn.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued
Message-ID:  <199708030757.RAA13291@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <199708021720.DAA00921@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> from David Nugent at "Aug 3, 97 03:20:12 am"

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David Nugent stands accused of saying:
> >  
> >  The correct answer to this is, of course, that any port that requires
> >  a specific Tcl version or range of versions should require one of
> >  those versions out of the ports collection.  A port failing to operate
> >  regardless of the Tcl version in the base distribution is
> >  _fundamentally_broken_, and should be fixed.
> 
> This is a gross over-simplification.
> 
> The ports collection cannot ignore the rest of the system on which it is
> installed. That's the whole point of this discussion.

The whole point I am making is that if the ports collection is to
avoid being an unbearable millstone around the neck of any further
development, it _must_ survive as a separate entity.  How much more
plainly must this be put before people get it?

> Upgrading the base system's version to an untested beta with some very
> significant internal changes, even in -current, is the most stupid move
> I have seen in the FreeBSD project since my involvement. 

ARGH!  Why do people _insist_ on treating a moving development
snapshot as though it were a production system?  If you want or expect
something to remain static, _use_a_post-RELEASE_verion.

You said it yourself; this is -current, you _must_ expect things to change.

Tcl is obviously remaining in the tree because it is or will be
fundamental to upcoming system components; this much is obvious.

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