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Date:      Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:02:10 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
Cc:        "Jacques A. Vidrine" <nectar@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/crypto/openssh servconf.c session.c
Message-ID:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1020420105801.64976R-100000@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020420145437.GB5350@nagual.pp.ru>

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On Sat, 20 Apr 2002, Andrey A. Chernov wrote:

> > Yeah, personally I'd prefer we avoid introducing gratuitous diffs against
> > the OpenSSH source -- some changes are necessary (PAM, et al), but
> > anything beyond the base necessary changes just makes updating more of a
> > pain.  We've already had updates stalled by >6-8 months because of many
> > local changes, so that's a problem we need to be very careful to avoid.
> 
> Please note that "CheckMail" was in OpenSSH since long time and was
> removed just recently, making lack of "login" look & feel without any
> reason. Moreover, old "ssh" (pre-OpenSSH) check mail too without any
> option, like "login" does. 
> 
> Users really want to know they have new mail when they logged in! 
> 
> About setusercontext() changes: they are absolutely necessary, if we
> support login.conf. We can either remove them with whole login.conf
> support (why we have login.conf so?) or do it correctly. We can't live
> with half-singing half-dancing old variant, I mean broken login.conf
> support.

Note that I wasn't necessarily making the judgement that your changes were
gratuitous, just cautioning against gratuitous changes.  :-)  Having
correct functioning of user context is a very good thing, and something
where there have been bugs previously (I haven't had a chance to do tests
to make sure they didn't recur with the recent upgrades, and need to do
that actually).  On the other hand, we need to find a good balance between
local changes and merged ones -- I know that there have been some problems
getting stuff merged back into the base distribution in the past, but for
legitimate bug/feature fixes, it's important we make the effort.

Robert N M Watson             FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project
robert@fledge.watson.org      NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services



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