From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Wed Jan 27 11:07:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509DEA6E768 for ; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 11:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay04.ispgateway.de (smtprelay04.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.8]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 188761D37; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 11:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from [78.35.177.84] (helo=fabiankeil.de) by smtprelay04.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aONwk-0003Hw-FQ; Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:07:34 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 12:07:34 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: John Marino Cc: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r407270 - head/ports-mgmt/portmaster Message-ID: <20160127120734.7000ed9d@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <56A86A88.1070908@marino.st> References: <201601261123.u0QBNcvL091258@repo.freebsd.org> <56A86A88.1070908@marino.st> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/D7qPajLp.PeQqSJ8nq_ETbt"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Df-Sender: Nzc1MDY3 X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 11:07:46 -0000 --Sig_/D7qPajLp.PeQqSJ8nq_ETbt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Marino wrote: > On 1/27/2016 2:29 AM, Adam Weinberger wrote: =20 > > synth is written in ada. I'm sorry but any port-management port that > > requires over 20 dependencies before it even works is not > > lightweight. I assume that dragonflybsd comes with gcc (and ada > > support maybe), which is great and I'm super happy for you, but you > > should not be scaring off new users (who will install what the > > handbook tells them to install) just to promote a new program you > > wrote. =20 >=20 > 4) pkg ins synth >=20 > It pulls in one small package. It's noticibly faster than poudriere and > blows portmaster out of the water (parallel building) Is it faster than poudriere when doing the same task (building packages from source), or when doing something else? I only looked at synth briefly (and stopped when I realized that it's written in Ada), but my impression was that it's written with a different use case in mind and is designed to reuse binary packages. > Who said you have to build it from source? Where is that stated? I'm > stating it now: It is not recommended that you build it. The officially > build versions are absolutely fine. The "officially build versions" may be absolutely fine for you, but some people prefer not to use unreproducible binaries they didn't build themselves: https://reproducible-builds.org/ > lightweight refers to performance, not the fact that it has dependencies. That's hardly obvious. Fabian --Sig_/D7qPajLp.PeQqSJ8nq_ETbt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlaopPYACgkQBYqIVf93VJ1ExACeNZ9ZYdsLEk4j6mUl8saXZPVt 3sMAnifTJpf7sUaF03Wt9Azp3OSz9wcA =p6BG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/D7qPajLp.PeQqSJ8nq_ETbt--